THINNING OF THE VEIL

Tia Smith
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Oct 25, 2025 • 1h 19min

THE BROHTER OF JARED'S SACRED TEMPLE EXPERIENCE

The Book of Mormon was written for our day and within that holy text is written a most sacred endowment experience. The Brother of Jared's remarkable journey takes him through the wilderness, eventually arriving at Mount Shelem. During his sacred experiences, the Brother of Jared learns about patterns of revelation and the importance of making covenants with the Savior. His journey truly details our own sacred journey to the veil in our modern day temples, our holy mountains. This episode details the similarities and patterns between the Brother of Jared's temple experience and our own modern day temple worship. This holy prophet of God was a Gatherer in every sense of the word and like Gatherer's in any dispensation was gifted spiritual gifts and transcendent revelatory experiences. By studying his experiences and patterns, we can readily see that we stand to receive the same gifts and revelatory experiences in our own endowment process. The Savior beckons to all who will seek, to meet Him at the veil. YouTube: The Brother of Jared's Sacred Temple Experience: https://youtu.be/Fsgj4rKrT4UYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ  SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo:  https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation":  https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS: Russell M. Nelson: "Hear Him", “The Temple and Your Spiritual Foundation”, “Rejoice in Priesthood Keys”, “Think Celestial”, “The Temple and Your Spiritual Foundation”, “Confidence in the Presence of God”Ether 1:34, 38, 39, 43, Alma 9: 13, 19-22, Ether 3:1, 2, 6, 19, 20, Joseph Smith, TPJS 231-232LDS.org, Temples, “About the Endowment”Ether 2:1, 4-5, 8-10, D&C 84:5, Genesis 26:3,  D&C 131:2, Exodus 28:9,12,17, 21, 29-30, Moses 5:10, D&C 107:54, Ether 4:7, 13-15Stephen K. Iba, “A Cloud of Witnesses”, Ensign 2002Topical Guide, "Covenants"Bible Dictionary- “Priests”Brad’s LDS Thought, “The Ram of Consecration and Filling the Hand”, May, 11, 2014M. Catherine Thomas, “The Brother of Jared at the Veil,” in Temples of the Ancient World: Ritual and Symbolism, ed. Donald W. Parry (Salt Lake City and Provo, UT: Deseret Book and FARMS, 1994), 388–398.Jeffrey R. Holland, “Rending the Veil of Unbelief,” in The Voice of My Servants: Apostolic Messages on Teaching, Learning, and Scripture, ed. Scott C. Esplin and Richard Neitzel Holzapfel (Provo, UT: Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University; Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 2010), 143–64.Thomas R. Valletta, “Jared and His Brother,” in The Book of Mormon: Fourth Nephi Through Moroni, From Zion to Destruction, ed. Monte S. Nyman and Charles D. Tate Jr. (Provo, UT: ReligiouSupport the show
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Oct 23, 2025 • 21min

HELP! THE FAMILYSEARCH SOURCE IS ATTACHED TO THE WRONG PERSON

In this episode of the Gathering Academy, Colette goes over how to detach a source from a person in FamilySearch and reattach it to the correct ancestor. She also discusses the decision making process of determining which person the source is actually referencing, giving more confidence to the sometimes confusing process of making sure the records are accurate.YouTube: Help! The FamilySearch Source is Attached to the Wrong Person Video: https://youtu.be/SpHdXXXDv6IYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/SUPPORT THE SHOW:Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo:  https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation":  https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilSupport the show
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Oct 22, 2025 • 23min

DAVID B. HAIGHT'S NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE

In October 1989, in General Conference, Elder Haight testified of an experience that brought him to the brink of death. In that very real fight for life, he had a very sacred experience. He was taught things to wonderful to comprehend and viewed things of an eternal nature. The most important lesson learned in this holy, revelatory experience was that the Savior Jesus Christ suffered and died that we might truly live!!!YouTube "David B. Haight's Near Death Experience" Video: https://youtu.be/7sMVK3DOqnsYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: YouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQWebsite: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo:  https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation":  https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITIATIONS:David B. Haight, "The Sacrament and the Sacrifice", Oct. 1989: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1989/10/the-sacrament-and-the-sacrifice?lang=engSupport the show
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Oct 17, 2025 • 24min

THE JOY OF REDEEMING THE DEAD: Richard G. Scott, Oct. 2012

Elder Richard G. Scott and his wife, Jeanene, felt a very large pull to do family history in their own family, leading Elder Scott to testify boldly of the blessings, responsibilities, and power that come from participating in this sacred work on numerous occasions. In the October 2012 General Conference, the power of his testimony touched Sister Wendy Nelson so much that she dedicated more time to finding her ancestors. Elder Scott taught "This work is a spiritual work, a monumental effort of cooperation on both sides of the veil, where help is given in both directions."YouTube "The Joy of Redeeming the Dead" Video Link: https://youtu.be/1MUNIqCvW-MAncestor's Plea Music Video: https://youtu.be/8vQkF0-pYN0?si=bzxG3RW28DYLzNdCAncestor's Plea Playlist: https://youtu.be/udReZMxucHQ?si=c7q4imHZHK32JyIxYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: YouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQWebsite: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo:  https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation":  https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:Richard G. Scott, "The Joy of Redeeming the Dead", Oct. 2012: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2012/10/the-joy-of-redeeming-the-dead?lang=engSupport the show
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Oct 15, 2025 • 19min

A TRIFECTA OF THINNING OF THE VEIL STORIES

"Have you prayed about your own ancestors’ work?", asks Elder Richard G. Scott. Have you prayed that intercessory prayer on behalf of your ancestor's? Have you asked who needs help on the other side of the veil? Jessica Gall, Karen Bowen, and Nelda McAllister all felt prompted to ask that very sacred question in heartfelt prayer. And while these sisters have never met, they received very similar revelatory experiences. How will your own pleadings be answered? In the way the Lord sees fit and in His own way. But no doubt they will be answered in miraculous ways.YouTube: A Trifecta of Thinning of the Veil Stories Video: https://youtu.be/ZNonpc2DMIEYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ  SUPPORT THE SHOW:Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo:  https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation":  https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilSupport the show
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Oct 14, 2025 • 1h 38min

REDEMPTION IN DEEP WATERS

The Lord has been drawing Toni Jackson into the work of genealogy beginning at age 4. She has had thinning of the veil experiences all of her life because she is the soul descendent seeking to bring her ancestors into covenantal relationships with the Lord. Beginning at her own conversion and spanning decades, the Spirit of Elijah has been her guide in helping her connect with her ancestors from plantations and slave ships. Toni's profound perspective on the Gathering of Israel and her testimony of the truthfulness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is inspiring and encouraging to all who are trying to heal their own generational traumas.  YouTube: Redemption in Deep Waters Video: https://youtu.be/ctL7kH2CJkQYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ  SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo:  https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation":  https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilSupport the show
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Oct 10, 2025 • 1h 14min

THE RENEWING OF BODIES IN THE LAST DAYS

The Book of Mormon was written for our day and the testimonies included in that sacred book are relevant to preparing us for future ministrations, not just  spiritual guidance for the here and now. Why would the 3 Nephite story be included in this holy text? Is that story important and relevant to us who are living in the last days? This episode explores the reasons behind a renewing of our bodies within the context of Priesthood duties and responsibilities. There is not a doctrine much sweeter than the promise of a renewing of one's bodies, in all of it's forms, as a spiritual gift and power of one who desires to Gather Israel. YouTube: The Renewing of Our Bodies in the Last Days Video: https://youtu.be/szfh6XfgpQoYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ  SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo:  https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation":  https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:Doctrine & Covenants 84:31-34Aaron Reeves, “Embodied Authority: Priesthood Ordination and the Laws of the Mortal Body,” in By Our Rites of Worship: Latter-day Saint Views on Ritual in Scripture, History, and Practice, ed. Daniel L. Belnap (Provo, UT: Religious Studies Center; Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 2013), 261–281.Farley, S. Brent, “The Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood (D&C 84) “ in Sperry Symposium Classics: The Doctrine and Covenants, ed. Craig K. Manscill (Provo and Salt Lake City: Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University, and Deseret Book 2004), 221–233.D&C 67:11, D&C 88: 17-20, 25-26,34, 38Alma 13: 3,6,11-12, 18, D&C 84:23-24N. Eldon Tanner, “Reverence for Law,” October 1965Carlos E. Asay, "The Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood", October 1985Henry B. Eyring, "Faith and the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood", April 2008Orson Pratt (JD, 15: 366.)Hebrews13:2Clyde J. Williams, "The Three Nephites and the Doctrine of Translation," in The Book of Mormon: 3 Nephi 9–30, This Is My Gospel (Provo, UT: Religious Studies Center, 1993), 237–51.3 Nephi 28: 1, 4,6, 7, 12-13, 15-16, 18, Moses 7: 3-4, 19Vaiangina Sikahema, "House of Sequential Order",  Oct. 2021Russell M. Nelson, in “Latter-day Saint Prophet, Wife and Apostle Share Insights of Global Ministry,” Oct. 30, 2018, newsroom.ChurchofJesusChrist.org.Revelations 7:13-17Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, comp. Bruce R. McConkie, 3 vols. [1954–56], 2:167, 251–52.)Gospel Principles, Chapter 45: The MillenniumJoseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, edited by Bruce R. McConkie, 2:, p.178-179Dale G. Renlund, "The Priesthood and the Savior’s Atoning Power", Oct. 2017Charles W. Penrose, The Word of the Lord, Etc., JD 21:45Support the show
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Oct 9, 2025 • 31min

I'M STUCK!!! HOW DO I FIND MY FAMILY?

Anyone who has engaged in the work of the Gathering of Israel through Family History work, inevitably hits a brick wall. Frustration follows with eventual giving up on the whole process. In this episode Colette walks you through her tips and tricks to help with these very difficult dead ends with encouragement and a skill set that would make any genealogist proud. Our ancestors on the other side of the veil are anxious for us to keep trying and keep looking. YouTube I'm Stuck!! How do I find my Family? Video: https://youtu.be/zjnVJOZo1DMYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ  FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/SUPPORT THE SHOW:Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo:  https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation":  https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilSupport the show
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Oct 8, 2025 • 38min

"THE THREE NEPHITES AND THE DOCTRINE OF TRANSLATION": Article written by Clyde J. Williams

In this episode, Tia Smith, reads this very instructive article written by Clyde J. Williams, a former BYU Professor of Ancient Scripture, for the book, "The Book of Mormon: 3 Nephi 9–30, This Is My Gospel." In this article, Professor Williams points out the patterns inherent in the lives of the 3 ancient Nephite apostles, that lead them to one of the most sacred gifts any mortal can attain to, translation. The distinctive pattern of covenantal living, desiring to be a gatherer of Israel, and bearing testimony at all costs, lead them to this holy invitation. This scriptural account is more than a nice story in the Book of Mormon, but truly an educational pattern that anyone can look to and follow to receive spiritual gifts beyond comprehension. If the Book of Mormon was written for our day, then why would this singular experience be included in a book that by nature couldn't hold even a "hundreth part" of  available testimonies and doctrines? The answer is.. study the patterns of the 3 Nephites for yourself, and see what the Lord will teach you about His work and His glory.YouTube "The Three Nephites and the Doctrine of Translation" Video Link: https://youtu.be/boLd-RJGfTcYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: YouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQWebsite: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo:  https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation":  https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:Clyde J. Williams, "The Three Nephites and the Doctrine of Translation," in The Book of Mormon: 3 Nephi 9–30, This Is My Gospel (Provo, UT: Religious Studies Center, 1993), 237–51. : https://rsc.byu.edu/book-mormon-3-nephi-9-30-my-gospel/three-nephites-doctrine-translationSupport the show
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Oct 7, 2025 • 34min

SACRED VISITS FROM THE 3 NEPHITES

In Hebrews 13:2 it reads,  "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares." How many times have we been visited by angels and not even realized it? How many times have unseen hands helped us in our most trying circumstances? Some of the strangers that we could be entertaining are the 3 disciples of Jesus Christ from the Book of Mormon. They have been "changed" to help the work of the Savior moved forward from the time of their translation until now. Many testimonies have been given that men and women have been visited by these sanctified men. In this episode we hear about 3 interactions from these messengers of God to various Saints in the process of sacrificing their all to move the work of this last dispensation forward and received help in miraculous ways from these 3 Nephite apostles. YouTube: Sacred Visits from the 3 Nephites Video: https://youtu.be/CoeXt-4qWycYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ  SUPPORT THE SHOW:Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo:  https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation":  https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:My Life in Zion Blog, "Three Nephites and a Little Miracle", October 15, 2012: https://mylifeinzion.wordpress.com/2012/10/15/three-nephites-and-a-little-miracle/Assorted Gems of Priceless Value, by N.B. Lundwall, pp. 20-22Taken from an anonymous manuscript in the files of the WPA Writers’ Project, Utah State Historical Society, Salt Lake City, UtahSupport the show

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