
Here's Where It Gets Interesting
Here’s Where It Gets Interesting finds the stories of America you probably haven’t heard. Host Sharon McMahon, a longtime teacher and one of today’s most influential voices, will ignite your curiosity about the fascinating stuff that wasn’t in history textbooks. She’s joined by notable thought leaders who share insights about history, culture, and politics, and inspire us to grow into more thoughtful, well-informed citizens. An Audacy Podcast.
Latest episodes

Jul 14, 2025 • 45min
Unforgettable Encounters During Life's Final Moments with Hadley Vlahos
Hadley Vlahos, a registered nurse and bestselling author of *The In-Between*, shares her profound insights from years as a hospice nurse. She discusses the deeply emotional connections forged during patients' final moments and the surprising encounters some have with deceased loved ones. Vlahos emphasizes the importance of open conversations about death, comforting those involved, and embracing the dignity of dying. Her stories challenge conventional beliefs, urging listeners to rethink the significance of life's last moments.

Jul 7, 2025 • 53min
Poverty In America with Matthew Desmond
Matthew Desmond, a Princeton sociology professor and author of *Poverty, By America*, dives deep into the complexities of poverty in a wealthy nation. He reveals the staggering prevalence of financial instability and advocates for systemic change. The conversation addresses the skewed welfare benefits favoring the affluent, while calling for a collective responsibility to abolish poverty. Desmond emphasizes the need for comprehensive strategies like housing investments and uplifting community initiatives to create a more equitable society.

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Jun 30, 2025 • 53min
Modern Democracy with Daniel Ziblatt and Steven Levitsky
Harvard professors Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt delve into the challenges facing American democracy. They discuss the concept of 'tyranny of the minority' and explore the flaws within the U.S. Constitution. The duo highlights the pivotal role of young people in shaping a multiracial democracy and the importance of historical lessons from past democracies. They address the manipulative tactics of political leaders and advocate for necessary reforms like modifying the filibuster to enhance democratic participation.

Jun 23, 2025 • 50min
The Hate Next Door with Matson and Tawni Browning
Ever wonder how a white supremacist becomes an extremist? Sharon has a conversation with Matson and Tawni Browning about their book, The Hate Next Door. Matt gets candid about his time working undercover in white supremacist groups and what it was like to balance his dueling realities: where the job ended and where his home life began. Matt and Tawni also talk about the type of person white supremacist hate groups target for recruitment and the types of messaging they rely on to spread their violent ideologies.
Credits:
Host and Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon
Supervising Producer: Melanie Buck Parks
Audio Producer: Craig Thompson To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 16, 2025 • 41min
Book Bans and Free Speech with Suzanne Nossel
How does American society uphold the First Amendment while restricting books and censoring diverse ideas? Sharon talks with Suzanne Nossel, CEO of PEN America, about the surge in book bans, now over 4,000 nationwide. Suzanne explains how vague language about “protecting children” is used to remove books that reflect marginalized voices, often labeling them as “indecent” without justification. The result is classic literature and health-related content being removed from the shelves.
Credits:
Host and Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon
Supervising Producer: Melanie Buck Parks
Audio Producer: Craig Thompson To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 9, 2025 • 52min
Growing Up In Public with Devorah Heitner
These days, it feels like every fleeting thought, mistake, or awkward phase can be captured and shared online. So how are kids supposed to grow up in a world like that? Sharon sits down with Dr. Devorah Heitner, author of Growing Up in Public, to talk about how parents, teachers, and mentors can support kids as they navigate the digital world, with plenty of empathy along the way.
Credits:
Host and Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon
Supervising Producer: Melanie Buck Parks
Audio Producer: Craig Thompson To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jun 2, 2025 • 43min
How Animal Senses Reveal Hidden Realms with Ed Yong
All creatures, humans included, experience just a tiny slice of the full reality around us. Sharon chats with Pulitzer Prize winner and New York Times bestselling author Ed Yong about his book An Immense World, which dives into the amazing and often unseen ways animals sense the world. Ed talks about how exploring these sensory worlds can lead to some pretty big, thought-provoking questions about life. Even if our own perception is limited, there’s so much we can discover when we stay curious and open to new perspectives.
Credits:
Host and Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon
Supervising Producer: Melanie Buck Parks
Audio Producer: Craig Thompson To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 26, 2025 • 48min
The Extraordinary Women Who Helped Win WWII with Lena Andrews
This Memorial Day we take a moment to remember the 350,000+ American women who served in uniform during the war, in every service branch, in every combat theater, and in nearly two-thirds of the available military occupations at the time. Their service ranged from critical support roles flying planes across the country, drawing maps to help men get through Normandy, codebreaking, and building & maintaining the behind-the-scenes infrastructural work that made the heroics possible. Sharon is joined by CIA military analyst, WWII expert, and debut author, Lena Andrews, to unveil the scale and scope of what women in uniform contributed during WWII.
Credits:
Host and Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon
Supervising Producer: Melanie Buck Parks
Audio Producer: Craig Thompson To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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May 19, 2025 • 46min
The Virtues Behind the American Constitution with Jeffrey Rosen
In a thought-provoking discussion, Jeffrey Rosen, President and CEO of the National Constitution Center, delves into the Founders' interpretation of happiness through the lens of virtue. He analyzes the moral philosophies of key figures like Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, revealing their complex legacies. The conversation explores the necessity of electing virtuous leaders and the enduring significance of civic virtue in democracy. Rosen also emphasizes the transformational power of education and self-improvement as essential components of a thriving society.

May 12, 2025 • 48min
Parliamentary America with Max Stearns
Ever feel like choosing between the "lesser of two evils" in the voting booth? Many Americans don’t feel represented by major candidates and worry a third-party vote is wasted. If you're frustrated with the two-party system, you're not alone. What if it didn’t have to be that way? Sharon is joined by law professor and author Max Stearns, to hear about another option: a Parliamentary Democracy. What would this look like, and how might Americans benefit by reimagining Democracy?
Credits:
Host and Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon
Supervising Producer: Melanie Buck Parks
Audio Producer: Craig Thompson To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices