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Center for Strategic and International Studies
CSIS podcasts feature experts & scholars on a range of critical issues surrounding geopolitics, national security, defense, & international affairs topics.
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Mar 10, 2025 • 38min
The Terms of Trade: A Somber Prognosis from WTO Expert Tu Xinquan
On this episode of China Field Notes, Scott Kennedy speaks with Tu Xinquan, a leading Chinese expert on the World Trade Organization (WTO) and global economic governance. They review the initial enthusiasm accompanying China’s accession to the WTO two decades ago, the debates on whether China’s behavior conforms with its WTO commitments, and the need for WTO reform to address industrial policy, national security, digital trade, and labor standards. Tu Xinquan of China’s University of International Business & Economics (UIBE) discusses China’s entry into the WTO, the growth of trade tensions, and reforms needed to global economic governance.

Mar 7, 2025 • 32min
What It Takes to Be the Best: the Story of Evan Greenberg, Part Two
This is part-two of Mariana's discussion with Evan Greenberg—Chairman and CEO of Chubb Insurance, a CSIS Trustee, and her husband. The pair breaks down the state of the insurance industry, Evan's experience operating in China, his experience as an entrepreneur, and his outlook for the future.

Mar 6, 2025 • 38min
Schemes and Scam Inc. in Southeast Asia
In this engaging discussion, Sue-Lin Wong, a Southeast Asia correspondent for The Economist and an expert on China's influence in the region, dives into the dark world of transnational crime. She examines robust scamming networks flourishing amid economic despair, especially in Myanmar and Thailand. Sue-Lin highlights the urgent need for international cooperation to combat these issues. Additionally, she explores how Southeast Asian nations navigate the strategies of superpowers like the U.S. and China, revealing a complex geopolitical landscape defined by corruption and resilience.

Mar 6, 2025 • 26min
Aid Freezes and Security in the Andes
As one of his first actions in office, U.S. president Donald Trump ordered a 90-day freeze on foreign assistance pending review for alignment with U.S. foreign policy goals. Subsequent moves by the administration, including the aggressive downsizing and de facto elimination of the U.S. Agency for International Development have roiled Washington and resulted in far-reaching implications. Within the Western Hemisphere, the Andean region, particularly Colombia, stands to be one of the areas most impacted by these funding freezes.In this episode, Ryan C. Berg sits down with Elizabeth Dickinson, Senior Analyst for the Andes at Crisis Group. Together, they discuss how the cutoff of U.S. assistance is impacting security and counter-narcotics efforts in Colombia. They also explore the openings that the end of U.S. assistance creates for other powers to enter the security assistance space, particularly the European Union and China.

Mar 6, 2025 • 7min
Analysis: Trump’s Middle East Strategy
On Tuesday night, President Trump delivered the first broadcast address of his second term to Congress. Though his remarks on the Middle East were sparing and largely expected, U.S. policy in the region has largely been the opposite. Trump’s pronouncements on Gaza have sent especially powerful shockwaves throughout the Middle East, and hints of a new approach to Iran have also elicited attention. Asher Grant-Sasson speaks with Jon Alterman, director of the CSIS Middle East Program, about the state of U.S. Middle East policy and its possible future trajectories.

Mar 6, 2025 • 36min
Dr. Elizabeth (Beth) Cameron: “It has been a blizzard... It’s a staggering reality”
Dr. Elizabeth (Beth) Cameron, Professor, Brown University, and former senior official in global health security and biodefense at the White House and USAID, kindly shares her thoughts on the radical changes unfolding inside the U.S. government surrounding biothreats. Two internal factions within the Trump administration vie with one another. “It’s a bleak picture” in the accumulating damage to the federal workforce, programs, and the protective shield inside and outside our borders. Elon Musk alleges USAID is producing bioweapons, a patent lie. “It’s preposterous” and “dangerous.” More responsibilities will now fall to governors. What to make of the Trump administration’s recent $1B announcement on H5N1 to assist the poultry industry, and its decision to revisit the $590m contract with Moderna for a mRNA human vaccine for H5N1? We don’t know much on what is going to happen in Congress and DOD. And when emergency crises will strike next. Where to find hope? Our civil servants.

Mar 6, 2025 • 35min
Vietnam’s “Era of National Rise” with Khang Vu
Greg and Elina talk with Khang Vu. They discuss Vietnam’s bureaucratic reforms and its declaration of an “Era of National Rise.” Japhet and Lauren cover the latest from the region, from Ramadan to an update on scam centers in Thailand and Myanmar.

Mar 6, 2025 • 49min
The new Alliance of Sahel States and the future of Africa’s legacy institutions
Three West African countries - Mali, Niger, and Burkina Faso - have finalized their exit from the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS). Another thing they have in common? All three countries are under junta rule after military coups that took place in recent years. They have since formed their own union - the Alliance of Sahel States (AES). Why have these three countries exited ECOWAS, and is this a crisis point for the regional bloc? Catherine Nzuki is joined by Beverly Ochieng, Senior Analyst for Francophone Africa at Control Risks, and a Senior Associate with the CSIS Africa Program, to unpack these questions and more. They discuss the state of politics and security in Mali, Niger, and Burkina Faso (1:30); why the leaders of these military juntas are popular at home and across Africa (4:40); what drove the decision to exit ECOWAS and what this means for unity in the region (7:37); how the AES is using arts, culture, and media to self-legitimize; (20:00); how the pan-African, decolonial rhetoric of the leaders of AES is translating into their governance choices (24:11); if the AES confederation is strong enough to weather rough international winds on their own (28:49); the state of Africa’s legacy institutions today and how responsive they are to shifting regional politics and the collapsing post-WWII order (37:15).

Feb 27, 2025 • 2min
Introducing Hidden Depths
Introducing Hidden Depths, a six-part narrative podcast miniseries exploring the dynamics of water conflict and the possibilities for water cooperation. Join us as we dive into the shared future of this most critical resource. First two episodes drop Wednesday, March 12th wherever you get your podcasts.

Feb 27, 2025 • 29min
Max Bergmann: Does Europe Matter in the Middle East?
This week on Babel, Jon Alterman speaks with Max Bergmann, head of the Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program at CSIS. Previously, Max held a variety of positions at the State Department, including senior adviser to the assistant secretary of state for political-military affairs. He later went on to serve as a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, where he researched security cooperation between Europe, Russia, and the United States. Together, Jon and Max discuss the Middle East issues that unite and divide European countries and how Russia’s invasion of Ukraine may be reshaping European perspectives on the region. Then, Jon continues the conversation with Martin Pimentel and Will Todman to evaluate the benefits, and costs, of U.S. unilateralism in the Middle East.
Transcript: "Max Bergmann: Does Europe Matter in the Middle East?," CSIS, February 27, 2025.
Max Bergmann's recent report: "The Transatlantic Alliance in the Age of Trump: The Coming Collisions," CSIS, February 14, 2025.


