
 CSIS Podcasts
 CSIS Podcasts Schemes and Scam Inc. in Southeast Asia
 Mar 6, 2025 
 In this engaging discussion, Sue-Lin Wong, a Southeast Asia correspondent for The Economist and an expert on China's influence in the region, dives into the dark world of transnational crime. She examines robust scamming networks flourishing amid economic despair, especially in Myanmar and Thailand. Sue-Lin highlights the urgent need for international cooperation to combat these issues. Additionally, she explores how Southeast Asian nations navigate the strategies of superpowers like the U.S. and China, revealing a complex geopolitical landscape defined by corruption and resilience. 
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 Intro 
 00:00 • 3min 
 China's Rising Influence in Southeast Asia 
 02:42 • 7min 
 Navigating Strategic Competition in Southeast Asia 
 10:05 • 3min 
 Navigating U.S.-Southeast Asia Relations Amidst Policy Shifts 
 13:34 • 3min 
 Escalating Transnational Crime in Southeast Asia 
 16:18 • 17min 
 The Rise of Scam Economies and Corruption in Southeast Asia 
 33:44 • 4min 
