
The CDHI Podcast
Hosted by Michael Hainsworth, the CDHI Podcast is your go-to source for trusted policy intelligence. From energy to healthcare, inflation and the labour market, this podcast is an ongoing in-depth interview series with leading experts on the most critical economic issues affecting Canadians.
Latest episodes

Jan 29, 2025 • 27min
Healthcare System, Heal Thyself with Mark Holland and Rosalie Wyonch
Canada’s healthcare system must continue to evolve,
according to Federal Minister of Health Mark Holland. On our latest episode, Minister Holland joins host Michael Hainsworth and the C.D. Howe Institute Associate Director of Research Rosalie Wyonch to discuss the Minister’s recent Canada Health Act interpretation letter and more.

Jan 16, 2025 • 27min
Trump's Tumultuous Tariff Threat with Meredith Lilly and Daniel Schwanen
Donald Trump isn't backing down from his threat to hit Canada with 25 percent tariffs. But Canada is fighting back.
Michael Hainsworth speaks with Meredith Lilly of Carleton University and Daniel Schwanen, Senior Vice-President of the C.D. Howe Institute, about what options Ottawa and the provinces have to respond to American tariffs, and how much Canada reasonably can do in the short term to get Trump and his administration to back down.
Topics covered: Canadian trade and international policy, Canada-US relations, tariffs, trade wars, the Canadian economy, federal-provincial relations, oil and gas, energy, Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau, Danielle Smith, Doug Ford, and Canadian politics.

Jan 14, 2025 • 28min
Capital Gains Bullet Dodged with Jack Mintz and Alex Laurin
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s decision to step down has put the controversial capital gains tax plan’s future into question. Is it a bullet dodged, or should it be revived? Jack Mintz of the University of Calgary and the Institute’s Alex Laurin discuss with Michael Hainsworth.
Topics covered: Tax policy, capital gains taxes, Canadian politics, economics, the Canadian economy, and Justin Trudeau.

Dec 23, 2024 • 41min
The 2024 Year in Review
With 2024 almost behind us, Michael Hainsworth shares some of the CDHI podcast's most fascinating interviews and policy conversations during the course of a tumultuous year.
Featuring: Wilbur Ross, Conrad Black, Martha Hall Findlay, John Baird, John Manley, Jason Kenney, John Tory, Mitzie Hunter, Rosalie Wyonch, Jane Philpott, Michelle Alexopoulos, Jeremy Kronick, Heather Evans, A.J. Goulding, Nik Nanos, Andrew Coyne, Trevor Tombe, and Martin Wolf.
Topics covered include: Canada-US relations and trade, immigration policy in Canada, pharmacare, Canadian economic productivity, the GST and Canadian tax policy, carbon pricing and climate change, Canadian public opinion, federal and provincial budgets finances, healthcare costs, debt-to-GDP ratios, and international relations and trade.

Dec 18, 2024 • 24min
No Balanced Budget For Christmas with Bill Robson
Two bombshells were dropped on Canadians this week with the abrupt departure of Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland – and news that Canada spent $20 billion more than it budgeted. On this episode of the podcast, C.D. Howe Institute President and CEO William Robson explains where all this leaves Canada's finances.

Dec 11, 2024 • 21min
Ho, Ho, Hold the GST Holiday with Bill Robson and Don Drummond
The holidays may be about eating to excess, but Ottawa’s “GST Holiday” is little more than “fiscal junk food”. On this episode of the CDHI podcast, Institute CEO Bill Robson and Fellow-in-Residence Don Drummond tell our Michael Hainsworth why a two-month tax break isn’t making these public policy elves jolly this holiday season.

Nov 25, 2024 • 31min
Prescribing Innovation with Rosalie Wyonch and Helen Angus
Ever since ChatGPT started making headlines for helping students write their essays, artificial intelligence (AI) has gotten a bad rap. But machine learning algorithms and the AI that comes from them have been used for several years in the healthcare sector. Helen Angus of AMS Healthcare and C.D. Howe Institute’s Rosalie Wyonch join us to discuss AI's impact and potential.

Nov 14, 2024 • 35min
Trump Won, Now What? With John Baird and John Manley
The decision by American voters to send Donald Trump back to the White House continues to reverberate around the world. Canada’s biggest trading partner is about to become more insular, protectionist, and volatile. How do we, as polite Canadians, keep our economy strong, our inflation low, and stay off Trump’s radar?
In this week’s podcast, Michael Hainsworth talks to two
former senior cabinet ministers with extensive knowledge of the Canada-US relationship: John Manley, who served under Liberal prime minister Jean Chrétien, and John Baird, who served under Conservative prime minister Stephen Harper. They discuss their reaction to Trump’s win, what Canada has to do to up its economic game, and how Canadian leaders should deal with Trump’s America.

Oct 31, 2024 • 24min
Another Day Older and Deeper in Debt with Parisa Mahboubi and Bill Robson
When it comes to Canada's finances, the country is aging in more ways than one. With a shrinking workforce, government revenue growth slowing, and costs for healthcare, pensions, and seniors benefits escalating. This issue disproportionately affects provincial governments, who bear the brunt of healthcare spending.
In the recent C.D. Howe Institute commentary "Another Day Older and Deeper in Debt: The Fiscal Implications of Demographic Change for Ottawa and the Provinces," we learn that over the next four decades governments face an implicit $2 trillion liability because of these demographic changes.
Michael Hainsworth talks to commentary authors Parisa
Mahboubi and Bill Robson about their research, their conclusions, and the possible solutions to problems caused by this aging trend.

Oct 17, 2024 • 32min
Elections, Trade and NATO with US Ambassador David Cohen
Like it or not, Canada is living in interesting times.
Our only neighbour and biggest trading partner is holding an election that could determine the global order for a generation and send shockwaves through the world economy.
How should Canada handle its relationship with the US during such a volatile time? For answers, Michael Hainsworth speaks with US Ambassador to Canada David Cohen.
They discuss how Canada should manage a number of
irritants between the two countries, such as supply management and defence spending. Cohen also offers advice on how Canadians can advance their interests
south of the border.