
The CDHI Podcast
Hosted by Michael Hainsworth, the CDHI Podcast is your go-to source for trusted policy intelligence. From energy to healthcare, inflation and the labour market, this podcast is an ongoing in-depth interview series with leading experts on the most critical economic issues affecting Canadians.
Latest episodes

Mar 31, 2025 • 29min
Budgeting for Trump in 2025 with Bill Robson and Don Drummond
In the age of Trump, how do you prepare Canada’s finances for a protracted trade war? The Institute’s Bill Robson and Don Drummond advise we balance the books, raise the GST, and tell Canadians why the pain is necessary.

Mar 24, 2025 • 21min
Growing Small into Big: The Housing Crisis Solution with Paul Beaudry and Jeremy Kronick
Solving Canada’s multiple housing crises requires thinking big – about smaller cities. In this episode of the CDHI Podcast with Michael Hainsworth, Vancouver School of Economics professor Paul Beaudry and C.D. Howe Institute Vice President of Economic Analysis Jeremy Kronick discuss why focusing on growing our smaller urban centres into larger cities will help ease the pain nationwide.

Mar 11, 2025 • 25min
Pension Tension and the Trump Trade with Claude Lamoureux
We're saying “bye America, buy Canada” amid Donald Trump’s trade war. But even before he returned to office, there has been a growing drumbeat to turn pensions into a policy tool. Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan guru Claude Lamoureux joins host Michael Hainsworth to discuss why forcing a “buy Canadian” strategy won’t work long-term.

Feb 25, 2025 • 26min
Toronto's Big Smoke (Screen) Budget with Bill Robson and Nick Dahir
Torontonians might be shocked to learn their back-to-back property tax increases come at a time when city hall has more than a billion dollars in the bank. The Institute’s Bill Robson and Nick Dahir tell host Michael Hainsworth that a lack of transparency is keeping politicians from understanding the true cost of running the country’s biggest city.

Feb 18, 2025 • 18min
Tapping Immigrant Talent with Parisa Mahboubi and Tingting Zhang
Canada is squandering a vital resource in its skilled immigrants. On this episode ofthe CDHI podcast with Michael Hainsworth, two C.D. Howe Institute immigrationexperts discuss this and explain the importance of tearing down barriers tolabour mobility.

Feb 3, 2025 • 20min
Countering Trump's Trade Tariffs with Gary Hufbauer, Daniel Schwanen and Bill Robson
Elbows up: Canada is fighting Trump’s tariffs and a former US Treasury insider likes our strategy. Gary Hufbauer warns US standing will continue to shrink and China’s will continue to rise. Will bringing down interprovincial trade barriers counter Trump’s trade tariff move?

Jan 29, 2025 • 27min
Healthcare System, Heal Thyself with Mark Holland and Rosalie Wyonch
Canada’s healthcare system must continue to evolve,
according to Federal Minister of Health Mark Holland. On our latest episode, Minister Holland joins host Michael Hainsworth and the C.D. Howe Institute Associate Director of Research Rosalie Wyonch to discuss the Minister’s recent Canada Health Act interpretation letter and more.

Jan 16, 2025 • 27min
Trump's Tumultuous Tariff Threat with Meredith Lilly and Daniel Schwanen
Donald Trump isn't backing down from his threat to hit Canada with 25 percent tariffs. But Canada is fighting back.
Michael Hainsworth speaks with Meredith Lilly of Carleton University and Daniel Schwanen, Senior Vice-President of the C.D. Howe Institute, about what options Ottawa and the provinces have to respond to American tariffs, and how much Canada reasonably can do in the short term to get Trump and his administration to back down.
Topics covered: Canadian trade and international policy, Canada-US relations, tariffs, trade wars, the Canadian economy, federal-provincial relations, oil and gas, energy, Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau, Danielle Smith, Doug Ford, and Canadian politics.

Jan 14, 2025 • 28min
Capital Gains Bullet Dodged with Jack Mintz and Alex Laurin
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s decision to step down has put the controversial capital gains tax plan’s future into question. Is it a bullet dodged, or should it be revived? Jack Mintz of the University of Calgary and the Institute’s Alex Laurin discuss with Michael Hainsworth.
Topics covered: Tax policy, capital gains taxes, Canadian politics, economics, the Canadian economy, and Justin Trudeau.

Dec 23, 2024 • 41min
The 2024 Year in Review
With 2024 almost behind us, Michael Hainsworth shares some of the CDHI podcast's most fascinating interviews and policy conversations during the course of a tumultuous year.
Featuring: Wilbur Ross, Conrad Black, Martha Hall Findlay, John Baird, John Manley, Jason Kenney, John Tory, Mitzie Hunter, Rosalie Wyonch, Jane Philpott, Michelle Alexopoulos, Jeremy Kronick, Heather Evans, A.J. Goulding, Nik Nanos, Andrew Coyne, Trevor Tombe, and Martin Wolf.
Topics covered include: Canada-US relations and trade, immigration policy in Canada, pharmacare, Canadian economic productivity, the GST and Canadian tax policy, carbon pricing and climate change, Canadian public opinion, federal and provincial budgets finances, healthcare costs, debt-to-GDP ratios, and international relations and trade.
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