
School of War
This podcast seeks to learn what war teaches. There has been a steady decline in the study of military history and its associated theoretical discipline, strategy.This podcast seeks to fill that gap through in-depth interviews on military and diplomatic history. Our guests have included former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the Cold War historian John Lewis Gaddis, and former China Select Committee chairman Mike Gallagher. We discuss the battlefield commanders, diplomats, strategists, policymakers, and statesmen who have had to make wartime decisions in the ancient and modern eras. The subject of an episode may be an historical battle, campaign, or conflict; the conduct of policy in the course of a major international incident; the work of a famous strategist; the nature of a famous weapon; or the legacy of an important military commander or political leader. Aaron MacLean is a senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.Visit our Substack for episode transcriptsFollow along on Instagram
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Dec 3, 2024 • 49min
Ep 161: Mackenzie Eaglen on China’s Military Spending and Ours
Mackenzie Eaglen, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and an expert in defense strategy and budgets, delves into the stark realities of U.S. military funding. She highlights the alarming gap between China's reported and actual defense spending, stressing its implications for U.S. military readiness. Eaglen also discusses the critical need for strategic responses to China's advancements and the long-term impacts of budget constraints on national security and education. Her insights reveal the urgent necessity for the U.S. to modernize its defense approach.

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Nov 26, 2024 • 59min
Ep 160: Thomas Barfield on Empire and Imperial Strategies Today
Thomas Barfield, a renowned anthropologist and author, shares his insights on imperial strategies and the historical dynamics of empires. He discusses the complexities of Afghan politics and the clash between American assumptions and local realities. Barfield examines the governance structures of different empires, highlighting their unique approaches to authority. He also explores the evolution of imperial strategies, the impact of nostalgia on political power, and how America's maritime legacy shapes current global dynamics, particularly in relation to China.

Nov 19, 2024 • 45min
Ep 159: Rebeccah Heinrichs on the Morality of Nuclear Weapons
Rebeccah Heinrichs, senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and author of Duty to Deter: American Nuclear Deterrence and the Just War Doctrine, joins the show to make the moral argument for why the United States should modernize and grow its nuclear arsenal. ▪️Times • 01:15 Introduction • 01:48 A net good • 04:50 Tactical nuclear weapons • 10:25 The argument of disarmament • 14:03 Cold War strategy • 19:53 Capability and will • 26:06 Downside of “no first use” • 32:03 The nuclear triad • 37:20 Russia and China • 40:56 The moral argumentWatch today’s episode on YouTube @SchoolofWarPodcastFollow along on InstagramFind a transcript of today’s episode on our School of War Substack

Nov 12, 2024 • 48min
Ep 158: Randall Schriver and Dan Blumenthal on an Economic Strategy for China
Randall Schriver, Chairman of the Board at The Project 2049 Institute, and Dan Blumenthal, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, join the show to discuss a road map for economic competition—and warfare—between the U.S. and China. ▪️Times • 01:55 Introduction • 02:30 Planning for economic warfare • 06:27 Endstate • 10:18 Leadership • 12:21 NSDD • 14:59 Starting points • 17:10 Decoupling • 20:03 Where is the stuff coming from? • 23:50 Degrading the Chinese economy • 27:33 A dream of cooperation • 32:17 Slow the growth • 36:08 Wargaming • 41:41 Protraction • 44:49 International and Congressional concernsClick the link to read the report - DEFEATING THE CCP A RUNNING STARTFollow along on Instagram or YouTube @SchoolofWarPodcastFind a transcript of today’s episode on our School of War Substack

Nov 8, 2024 • 1h 27min
Ep 157: Frank Cohn—Veterans Day Special
Watch this episode on YouTube. Frank Cohn joins the show to talk about his life: fleeing Hitler’s Germany, his return as a U.S. soldier tasked with hunting Nazi’s, his service in Vietnam, and more.▪️Times • 01:55 Introduction • 02:15 A Nazi in the classroom • 05:47 Martin and Ruth • 17:35 Leaving Germany • 19:22 New York City • 22:50 Pearl Harbor • 30:47 Back to Europe • 35:30 Nazi Hunter • 39:48 POW for a moment • 42:32 The Dutch lady • 50:40 Camps • 52:30 Crossing the Elbe • 59:20 Interrogations • 01:05:40 Paying back the country • 01:08:51 Paula • 01:14:50 Military Police and Vietnam • 01:18:40 Angus • 01:21:12 LessonsFollow along on InstagramFind a transcript of today’s episode on our School of War Substack

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Nov 5, 2024 • 44min
Ep 156: Nicholas Eberstadt on North Koreans in Russia
Nicholas Eberstadt, Henry Wendt Chair in Political Economy at the American Enterprise Institute, joins the show to discuss the North Korean regime and the geopolitical impact of its decision to send troops to support Russia in Ukraine.▪️Times • 01:36 Introduction • 01:49 Finding North Korea • 04:00 The Sung dynasty • 09:24 Beijing and Moscow • 14:43 Kim Jong Il • 22:14 Mackinder’s World-Island • 26:29 Interconnected • 33:18 Why commit to Russia? • 36:55 Limited imaginations • 39:03 New differencesFollow along on InstagramFind a transcript of today’s episode on our School of War Substack

Oct 29, 2024 • 55min
Ep 155: Nick Lloyd on World War I’s Eastern Front
Nick Lloyd, Professor of Modern Warfare at King's College London and author of 'The Eastern Front: A History of the Great War, 1914-1918,' dives into the critical yet often overlooked Eastern Front of World War I. He discusses the significance of the Battle of Tannenberg, revealing its strategies and the chaos within the Russian army. Lloyd explores the impact of munitions shortages on Russia's war effort, the collapse of their forces leading to revolution, and Lenin's dramatic return, challenging the very fabric of the war and reshaping geopolitics.

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Oct 22, 2024 • 31min
Ep 154: Ben Noon on the U.S.-China Chip Wars
Ben Noon, an expert on US-China rivalry and a contributor to the Vandenberg Coalition, shares insights on the high-stakes semiconductor competition. He explains the significance of both legacy and advanced chips, detailing their roles in everyday technology and cutting-edge innovations. The discussion highlights the importance of robust trade policies to counter China's market strategies and emphasizes how this chip dominance is crucial for national security and economic competitiveness amid rising tensions.

Oct 18, 2024 • 1h 17min
Ep 153: Scott Hartwig on the Battle of Antietam
Scott Hartwig, author ofI Dread the Thought of the Place: The Battle of Antietam and the End of the Maryland Campaign, joins the show to discuss the single bloodiest day in American military history, the Battle of Antietam.▪️Times • 01:46 Introduction • 02:19 Why Antietam? • 09:09 Sourcing history • 12:45 Limited to total war • 21:24 McClellan • 28:00 Lee in Maryland • 34:57 Geography • 46:20 South Mountain to Antietam • 55:49 The fighting • 01:02:12 Mass and maneuver • 01:04:44 Lee escapesFollow along on InstagramFind a transcript of today’s episode on our School of War Substack

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Oct 15, 2024 • 42min
Ep 152: Jacqueline Deal on China’s Strategy
Jacqueline Deal, President and CEO of the Long Term Strategy Group and a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, discusses the complexities of U.S.-China competition. She reveals how U.S. policies may inadvertently empower China. The conversation dives into China's strategic rivalry, its military mindset resembling early 20th-century Germany, and the critical vulnerabilities in supply chains influencing national security. Deal emphasizes the importance of boosting domestic production to navigate this competitive landscape successfully.
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