
School of War
This podcast seeks to learn what war teaches. There has been a steady decline in the study of military history and its associated theoretical discipline, strategy.This podcast seeks to fill that gap through in-depth interviews on military and diplomatic history. Our guests have included former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the Cold War historian John Lewis Gaddis, and former China Select Committee chairman Mike Gallagher. We discuss the battlefield commanders, diplomats, strategists, policymakers, and statesmen who have had to make wartime decisions in the ancient and modern eras. The subject of an episode may be an historical battle, campaign, or conflict; the conduct of policy in the course of a major international incident; the work of a famous strategist; the nature of a famous weapon; or the legacy of an important military commander or political leader. Aaron MacLean is a senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.Visit our Substack for episode transcriptsFollow along on Instagram
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Apr 15, 2025 • 55min
Ep 190: Michael Doran on “Restraint” and the Middle East
Michael Doran, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, dives into the concept of 'restraintism' in U.S. foreign policy. He discusses how this ideology influenced Trump's decisions in the Middle East, contrasting them with Obama's approach. Doran also tackles the complexities of U.S.-Iran relations, the impact of economic considerations on policy, and the tensions between Turkey and Israel. He sheds light on the challenges of negotiating peace while balancing regional dynamics, emphasizing the need for a nuanced understanding of American interests abroad.

Apr 11, 2025 • 32min
Ep 189: Andrew Roberts on October 7th and Antisemitism
Andrew Roberts, a distinguished fellow at the Hoover Institution and expert on Winston Churchill, dives into the impact of the October 7th events and the persistent threat of antisemitism. He emphasizes the dangers of historical revisionism, particularly regarding World War II, cautioning against oversimplified views. The conversation also tackles the balance of free speech in today’s discourse and examines the moral dilemmas behind ongoing Middle East conflicts, urging a nuanced understanding of these complex issues.

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Apr 8, 2025 • 53min
Ep 188: Jonathan Horn on MacArthur and the Battle for the Philippines
Jonathan Horn, a former White House speechwriter and author, dives into the pivotal roles of Generals Douglas MacArthur and Jonathan Wainwright during the Philippines campaign in WWII. He discusses the emotional aftermath of the Bataan Death March and the contrasting paths of the two leaders. Horn highlights the complexities of military honor, Wainwright's struggles as a POW, and the legacies of their leadership styles. The discussion also touches on the MacArthur family's historical ties to the Philippines and the strategic challenges faced by U.S. forces.

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Apr 1, 2025 • 47min
Ep 187: Richard Fontaine on the “Reverse Kissinger”
In an engaging conversation, Richard Fontaine, CEO of CNAS and a seasoned foreign policy advisor, dives into the tricky dynamics between China and Russia. He discusses the historical context of their cooperation, the strategic implications for U.S. influence, and the challenges posed by nuclear deterrence. Fontaine emphasizes the need for a renewed diplomatic approach to navigate these geopolitical waters and critiques the liberal international order. Expect sharp insights into the evolving roles of global powers amidst rising tensions!

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Mar 25, 2025 • 54min
Ep 186: Walter Russell Mead on Trump, Strategy, and Mercantilism
Walter Russell Mead, an expert in strategy and statecraft from the University of Florida, dives into Trump’s economic worldview. He discusses the historical roots of Trump’s mercantilist approach and its influence on trade policies. The conversation shifts to the outsourcing of defense to China and how this affects national security. Mead also highlights the changing dynamics between Congress and the Executive, and examines the U.S. dollar's critical role in global economics and military power. Expect insightful critiques and historical contexts!

Mar 18, 2025 • 57min
Ep 185: Lara Burns on the Hamas Threat in America
Lara Burns, a retired FBI Special Agent and current head of terrorism research at George Washington University, discusses the insidious presence of Islamist groups in America. She delves into the historical context and ideological foundations of Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, exposing their strategies to influence American society. The conversation highlights funding complexities behind activist organizations and the challenges of addressing anti-Israel sentiment on college campuses. Burns emphasizes the importance of education in combating misinformation and promoting societal awareness.

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Mar 14, 2025 • 43min
Ep 184: Alexander Burns on the Dawn of the Modern Battlefield
Alexander Burns, an Assistant Professor of History at Franciscan University and author of "Infantry in Battle 1733-1783," dives into the evolution of combat from Marlborough to Napoleon. He discusses how 18th-century warfare transformed into chaotic confrontations, emphasizing the psychological shifts in soldiers and the rise of firearms. The conversation also covers Prussian military innovations, the blending of European strategies with American tactics during the Revolutionary War, and the ideological motivations that began to shape modern enlistment.

Mar 11, 2025 • 36min
Ep 183: Tom Cotton on China
Tom Cotton, a U.S. Senator from Arkansas and author of "Seven Things You Can't Say About China," shares insights from his military service and political career. He discusses the CCP’s global ambitions and highlights bipartisan concerns over China's influence on human rights and security. Cotton analyzes China's early COVID-19 response and its potential economic stagnation, which could lead to increased aggression towards Taiwan. He also delves into the challenges posed by geopolitical threats from Russia and Iran, emphasizing the importance of a strong U.S. defense.

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Mar 4, 2025 • 48min
Ep 182: Sean McMeekin on Communism
Sean McMeekin, a Professor of European History at Bard College and author, dives into the intriguing relationship between communism and warfare. He discusses Lenin's strategic vision during the Russian Revolution and how his tactics shaped future foreign policies. The conversation explores the CCP's complex alliances during the Chinese Civil War, Stalin's dual role in the Cold War, and the evolution of Chinese communism from Mao to Xi Jinping. Prepare for a compelling journey through the ideological underpinnings that have influenced global conflicts.

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Feb 28, 2025 • 46min
Ep 181: Michael Cook on the Islamic Conquests
Michael Cook, a Princeton University professor and author of "A History of the Muslim World," delves into the explosive Arab expansion of the 7th century. He discusses the socio-political landscape before Islam, highlighting tribal dynamics and self-defense strategies. Cook also examines how Muhammad unified a fragmented society and the emergence of a distinct Arab identity. Additionally, he explores the internal conflicts after Muhammad's death, revealing how these historic power struggles influence modern politics and warfare.
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