

Ep 219: Stephen Platt on Mao's China and the Original Marine Raider
13 snips Aug 1, 2025
Stephen Platt, a Professor of Chinese history at UMass Amherst and author, dives into the fascinating life of Marine Evans Carlson. He discusses Carlson's surprising shift from anti-communism to supporting Chinese communists, influenced by his experiences in Nicaragua. The conversation highlights Carlson’s vital role as a bodyguard for FDR and his insights on U.S.-China relations. Listeners will also learn about the formation of the Marine Raiders and their heroic yet complex legacy in World War II.
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Carlson's Quirky American Roots
- Evans Carlson was a quintessentially quirky American who ran away from home at 14 seeking adventure and never really looked back.
- Raised by a minister father, he was inspired by Emerson's self-reliance philosophy to carve his own unconventional path.
Soviet Strategy in China
- Soviet policy in China aimed at a unified, Soviet-friendly buffer state rather than pure communist revolution.
- The KMT-CCP United Front broke down as Chiang Kai-shek purged communists, sparking civil war despite temporary later alliances.
Nicaragua Informs Raider Tactics
- Carlson learned guerrilla warfare leading Nicaraguan troops against Sandinistas, earning his first Navy Cross.
- This experience shaped his revolutionary tactics later applied to his Marine Raider training.