
ISF Podcast
The ISF Podcast brings you cutting-edge conversation, tailored to CISOs, CTOs, CROs, and other global security pros. In every episode of the ISF Podcast, Chief Executive, Steve Durbin speaks with rule-breakers, collaborators, culture builders, and business creatives who manage their enterprise with vision, transparency, authenticity, and integrity. From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.
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Sep 6, 2022 • 41min
S14 Ep4: Stephen Poloz - The Next Age of Uncertainty
In this episode, we’re featuring a conversation Steve had with Stephen Poloz, a world renowned economist who served as Governor of the Bank of Canada from 2013-2020. Steve and Stephen discuss some of the themes Poloz addresses in his recently released book, The Next Age of Uncertainty: How the World Can Adapt to a Riskier Future. They discuss communicating in the midst of crisis, how the fourth industrial revolution compares to past historical moments of change, and risk management and resilience amidst global turmoil.
Mentioned in this episode:
The Next Age of Uncertainty: How the World Can Adapt to a Riskier Future
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Aug 30, 2022 • 21min
S14 Ep3: Brett Beranek — Deep Fakes and Biometric Security Breakthroughs
Summer Listening - Today, ISF CEO Steve Durbin is in conversation with Brett Beranek, Vice President and General Manager of security and biometrics at Nuance Communications. Steve and Brett discuss some of the potential and the challenges of biometrics in the security space, including recent advancements in deep neural networks and deep fakes.
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Aug 23, 2022 • 25min
S14 Ep2: Federico Varese — Organised Crime Goes Digital
Summer Listening - Today, Steve is speaking with Prof. Federico Varese, a professor of criminology and head of the sociology department at Nuffield College at Oxford University. Prof. Varese talks with Steve about the history of organised crime in Russia and around the world, the mafia’s movement into cybercrime, and what the future may hold for these criminal organisations.
Related Resources from ISF:
ISF Podcast, Alexander Seger — How Global Law Enforcement Fight Cybercrime
ISF Podcast, Inside the Mind of Today’s Cybercriminals, Brett Johnson Part 1
ISF Podcast, The Life of a Cybercriminal, Brett Johnson Part 2
Misha Glenny: The Evolution of Cybercrime with Misha Glenny, author of McMafia
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Aug 16, 2022 • 28min
S14 Ep1: Steve Durbin - Security in the Boardroom and Beyond
Summer Listening - Today, we’re featuring highlights of a recent “fireside chat” hosted by global tech services and consulting firm Infosys, and featuring our own ISF CEO Steve Durbin. Steve’s interviewer is his long-time colleague and friend Vishal Salvi, who serves as Chief Information Security Officer and Head of Cyber Security Practice at Infosys.
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Jul 26, 2022 • 19min
S13 Ep4: The Ethical Dilemma of AI & Innovation: Part two
Today we’re back for the second episode of a two-part conversation around ISF CEO Steve Durbin’s NovelFest presentation on “The AI Revolution: Democratisation and the Ethical Dilemma of Innovation.” If you haven’t listened to Part 1, you may want to go back to that episode and listen to it first.
Last week gave us a pretty positive overview of what responsible AI could do to eliminate or to mitigate discrimination. But we know that AI is value-neutral, so the opposite of responsible AI could also become a reality. How can AI be used to facilitate digital discrimination?
Mentioned in this episode:
The AI Revolution: Democratisation and the Ethical Dilemma of Innovation, Part 1
2019 Global Risk Management Study - Accenture
Reid Blackman: A practical guide to building ethical AI – Harvard Business Review October 2020
The AI Public-Private Forum: Final report — from The Bank of England and the Financial Conduct Authority, February 2022
IBM’s Fairness 360
Google AI
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Jul 19, 2022 • 21min
S13 Ep3: The Ethical Dilemma of AI & Innovation: Part one
Today episode is the first of two parts in which ISF CEO Steve Durbin and host Tavia Gilbert discuss a presentation he gave for the Nobel Fest in April 2022, titled, “The AI Revolution: Democratisation and the Ethical Dilemma of Innovation.”
Mentioned in this episode:
2019 Global Risk Management Study - Accenture
Reid Blackman: A practical guide to building ethical AI – Harvard Business Review October 2020
The AI Public-Private Forum: Final report — from The Bank of England and the Financial Conduct Authority, February 2022
IBM’s Fairness 360
Google AI
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Jul 12, 2022 • 19min
S13 Ep2: Beyond Buzzwords: AI, ML, and the Future of Cyber
Today, we’re featuring an interview of ISF CEO Steve Durbin by Göran Walles, CTO at NetNordic Sweden, recorded back in May 2022. Göran has more than 20 years of experience in cybersecurity, and has been CTO at NetNordic Sweden since 2018. Steve and Göran recorded this conversation in May 2022, and they discuss the double-edged sword of AI and machine learning, how it can best be implemented to defend organisations’ security, and the need-to-know basics for CISOs and cyber professionals.
Relevant ISF Resources:
“Artificial Intelligence: The Future Of Cybersecurity?” — Forbes, 23 September 2021
Josh Jackson — AI, Automation and Cyber Ethics: Changing the Game — ISF Podcast, 24 August 2021
Steve Durbin — Machines Seize Control — ISF Podcast, 23 March 2021
Demystifying Artificial Intelligence in Information Security
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Jul 4, 2022 • 27min
S13 Ep1: Cyber, CISO and the Board: Security means business
Today, we feature a presentation made by ISF CEO Steve Durbin on The CISO, Cyber, and the Board at the ISF’s Nordic Spring Conference in May 2022. This was a chapter meeting held for ISF members in the Nordic region; ISF holds meetings three times a year to give members in the same geographic region a confidential forum where they can network and exchange ideas.
In his presentation, Steve addresses five areas where CISO's need to focus in 2022. For our listeners who are CISOs or in a position where you regularly communicate with your board, you’ll find some practical ideas to help you do that. For those of you who are closer to the beginning of your career in cyber, Steve offers some insights about the nature of the relationship between cybersecurity and the overall business that you’ll find helpful as you look to develop skills relevant to the needs of your business.
Mentioned in this episode:
List of various cyberattacks
Alliance graphs
IRAM 2—Qualitative Information Risk Assessment Methodology
QIRA —Quantitative Information Risk Assessment Methodology
ISF Supply chain risk management tools
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Jun 21, 2022 • 24min
S12 Ep5: BONUS: Rachel Botsman — Rethinking Trust
Today, ISF CEO Steve Durbin sits down with trust expert, author, and lecturer at Oxford University, Rachel Botsman. They discuss the nature of trust, how trust differs from transparency, and how to build a culture of trust within your organisation.
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Jun 14, 2022 • 11min
S12 Ep4: Threat Horizon 2024 — Dirty Data Disrupts Business
Today is the fourth and final episode in our four-part series focusing on the ISF’s latest report, Threat Horizon 2024: The Disintegration of Trust. ISF CEO Steve Durbin and producer Tavia Gilbert discuss the final theme of the report, “Dirty data disrupts business.”
More resources from ISF related to this episode:
Protecting the Crown Jewels: How to Secure Mission-Critical Assets
Threat Horizon 2023: Security at a Tipping Point
Threat Horizon 2022: Digital and Physical Worlds Collide
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