Today’s episode offers a fascinating conversation with Steve and journalist Jamie Bartlett, a specialist in online culture and technology and author of several books, including The People Vs Tech: How the Internet is Killing Democracy and Radicals Chasing Utopia: Inside the Rogue Movements Trying to Change the World. Listeners may also be familiar with his BBC podcast series, The Missing Cryptoqueen, which uncovers the story of Dr Ruja Ignatova, the woman who promised to make millions rich through a cryptocurrency called OneCoin, and then disappeared. Steve and Jamie discuss current trends in cyber crime and what government, private companies, and individuals can do to fight back.