Inner Life, Talks and Thoughts

Mark Vernon
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Jun 19, 2022 • 1h 25min

You Are Gods by David Bentley Hart. Reflections on Vedantic Christianity

0:00 Vedantic Christianity in the Bible, as the gospel7:58 The natural is already supernatural, our desire is for the infinite18:26 The Trinity and nondualism as the circle of glory23:07 Jesus and the Incarnation29:08 Salvation as theophany33:34 Paul and the Spirit of God within us36:58 Creation is in eternity, returning in time40:32 More on how we might know these things45:03 Worship as beauty, reverence, longing, delight47:43 Suffering and living in a violent world55:22 Eschatology as our eternal Yes to God57:58 The immanence of transcendence in Christian life1:05:57 Guarding against inflation and emergent notions of God in history1:16:05 Judgment, action and freedomA set of reflections liberally drawing on You Are Gods by David Bentley Hart (Notre Dame Press, 2022).Bentley Hart says that the book could equally have been subtitled, Studies in Vedantic Christianity, which I take as a lead. What might traditional Christian themes such as God and Jesus, Salvation and Spirit, Creation and Grace, Worship and Judgment look like within such a perspective?A summary might be that the gospel is the discovery and realisation that, as Jesus puts it, You are gods. And that the kingdom is not here or there, but within.As Bentley Hart puts it himself: “We are nothing but created gods coming to be, becoming God in God, able to become divine only because, in some sense, we are divine from the very first.”But what might that mean, what does that look like, how can we know?
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Jun 14, 2022 • 1h 17min

The Mossy Face of Christ. Martin Shaw talks w Mark Vernon about an unexpected return to Christianity

0:00 Imagination and the Imaginal in the modern world7:20 Different kinds of power: agency, allure, contraries10:40 The revival of myth-telling but in the first person singular15:30 Martin’s rediscovery of Christianity21:40 The mossy face of Christ and what happened34:04 People’s reactions to Jesus: contraction and expansion39:04 Martin’s discovery of mystery in an Orthodox Church46:27 What does this rediscovery of Christianity mean to him?51:56 What does this mean for the “Christian curious”?54:50 The shamanistic presence of Malcolm Guite58:28 Mark’s journey in and around Christianity with Owen Barfield1:05:25 A turn to William Blake1:08:10 The transcendent possibility bubbling up again1:12:57 The diversity of traditions and the entry of spiritIt's often remarked that the age of New Atheism has passed. But what is emerging in its stead?In this wide-ranging conversation, Martin Shaw discusses, for the first time, his recent encounter with the figure of Jesus and steps towards a form of Christianity very different from his evangelical upbringing.Power and freedom, history and myths, the Inklings and the imagination are explored en route. And we ask what kind of Christianity might be evolving in our times.To find out more about Martin Shaw - https://drmartinshaw.comTo find out more about Mark Vernon - https://www.markvernon.comTo find out more about Malcolm Guite - https://malcolmguite.wordpress.comTo find out more about Owen Barfield - https://www.markvernon.com/consciousnessTo find out more about The Temenos Academy - https://www.temenosacademy.org
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Jun 2, 2022 • 1h 39min

Varieties of love in Plato, Jesus, Ibn 'Arabi and other mystics. Jane Clark & Mark Vernon

It is often noted that the ancient Greeks had an advantage in possessing several words for love. Eros, philia, agape and others allowed them to be nuanced about love and navigate its differences. So is there benefit in considering how love has been understood in different wisdom traditions, too? This conversation, hosted by the Pari Center, explores how love has been understood in various faith contexts and across time, looking at Christian, Sufi, Platonic and other insights. The aim will be to tease out similarities and differences so as to deepen and refresh the felt presence of love in our lives.Jane Clark is a teacher and independent researcher who has been studying the Islamic mystical tradition for more than forty years. She is a Senior Research Fellow of the Muhyiddin Ibn ʿArabi Society, and also the editor of Beshara Magazine.For more on Mark Vernon - www.markvernon.com00:03:29 Four kinds of ancient Greek love00:09:13 Four kinds of love within Islam00:15:34 Love and spiritual paths in Neoplatonism00:25:34 Love and the Sufi path00:32:48 Love and suffering within Christianity00:38:20 The fire of love in Ibn ‘Arabi and Dante00:40:56 Is creation God’s act of love in Plato and Christianity00:46:57 God making a hidden treasure known in Sufism00:52:20 Is God love? Is God beauty?00:57:13 The unconditional love of God00:58:30 Charity, pastoralia and hospitality01:03:58 The imperative for sacrificial love after the Reformation01:10:30 Devotion, love of saints and idolatry01:13:43 Attitudes to sex and sin across traditions01:19:07 Attitudes to friendship across traditions01:26:23 What about love and suffering?01:32:38 Is there hope in collective movements of love?
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Jun 1, 2022 • 3min

Monarchy and the emergence of consciousness

A quick thought on the deep, inner, even esoteric history and significance of the Platinum Jubilee in the UK.The full story of monarchs and the birth of individual consciousness is part of the story told in A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling and the Evolution of Consciousness - https://www.markvernon.com/books/a-secret-history-of-christianity
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May 25, 2022 • 1h 13min

Love in a Time of Crisis because Crises are How Love Shows Up

There is a kind of love which brings consolation in crises. But there is also another kind of love which appears in times of crisis; indeed, can only be known through crises.This is worth considering because love is often use in nebulous or ill-defined ways, which means that its nuanced perceptions and mature forms can be hard to grasp. The need for a deeper awareness of love because particularly acute in times of crisis, though times of crisis also offer moments to understand love move fully. This talk was given at the Pari Centre. I explore the links between love and personal, spiritual and civilisational development; different types of power, and its relationship with freedom and mind; as well as erotic yearning, suffering and loss; and so also to the knowledge of the ways in which reality itself is shaped by transcendent love.
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May 24, 2022 • 30min

William Blake and the Psychedelic Renaissance. Seven facets of cultural transformation

William Blake is famous for his phrase "cleansing the doors of perception". But he has much, much more to offer the renewed interest in psychedelics underway in our times.He responds to the need for a social and spiritual setting, widely recognised by those investigating psychedelics now, so that personal experiences can be not only beneficial for individuals but transformative in cultural.Here, I discuss facets of his insight that suggest seven elements in which the psychedelic experience overlaps with cultural need.1. Learning that imagination is truth-bearing2. Realising that inner freedom is crucial3. Perceiving that consciousness is basic4. Recognising that healing is collective5. Experiencing death as a portal6. Understanding that vision matters more than morality7. Awakening to the malleability of time.
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May 21, 2022 • 36min

The Road of Excess Leads to the Palace of Wisdom. William Blake on desire, attention and wanting it all

"More! More! is the cry of a mistaken soul, less than All cannot satisfy Man," wrote William Blake. How we might participate in the All, without consuming more and more, can serve as a summary of Blake's vision and vocation. All he did was, in a way, an increasingly extended, expansive reflection on how to live in the presence of infinity.The mistakes we make, when confusing this eternity with mere accumulation, offer an analysis of the modern predicament. Blake realised that there is no point telling people to want less, or even to moderate their desires. Rather, we need to learn how to discern our desires so they lead towards that which they really seek: the all.It's an education of attention, an awakening of the divine. He provides powerful pointers in The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, a series of provocations not to live modestly but, rather, transformatively. Perceiving the infinite tracks a path of liberty and vision, love and fearlessness, which I explore in this discussion of the proverbs that he tells us he heard in the energetic, exuberant fires of hell.
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May 16, 2022 • 20min

Understanding the Hollywood Medium. Thoughts on Life After Death with Tyler Henry

The reality TV star, Tyler Henry, became famous with his celebrity readings. His new Netflix series, Life After Death, is a chance to consider what he does in a different light.My sense is he is one of the relatively rare highly gifted clairvoyants, who have impressed investigators like William James.I'm also struck by how his way of working resonates with psychotherapeutic phenomena like countertransference, as well as the testimony of Dante in the Divine Comedy.Tyler Henry challenges worldviews. But if not simply dismissed, and also approached in a less starry more discerning light, he offers a chance to understand more of life, its relationship to death, and what our times may be rediscovering.
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May 7, 2022 • 8min

Defending the Spiritual Commons. A short talk at Idler Drinks

The land commons are the shared material resources that nobody in particular might own, and everyone might have, though they are routinely taken from us. Land and forests, water and minerals.The spiritual commons are the being of life itself that nobody owns and everyone has. And arguably, they are being taken from us even more carelessly and callously....For more on Idler Drinks see - https://www.idler.co.ukFor more on Nick Hayes see - https://www.foghornhayes.comFor more on Mark Vernon see - https://www.markvernon.com
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May 4, 2022 • 1h 7min

Wrestling with Christianity. A Medicine Path podcast conversation with Brian James & Mark Vernon

A conversation on wrestling with Christianity - or perhaps more accurately, the Christianities that swirl around the figure of Jesus - at the Medicine Path podcast, #87, with Brian James.For more on Brian - http://medicinepathpodcast.com, http://brianjames.caFor more on Owen Barfield and his take on Christianity - https://www.markvernon.com/consciousness

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