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3 Books With Neil Pasricha

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Feb 12, 2025 • 2h 32min

Chapter 145: Lindyman leverages long-lasting lessons on living a limitless life

Don't use mouthwash.   Why?   It's not Lindy.   At least that's what Paul Skallas, a Chicago-born technology lawyer who goes by Lindyman online, says. I was fascinated to read a New York Times profile of him titled "The Lindy Way of Living," and knew I wanted to have him on 3 Books.   In the 2012 book 'Antifragile,' the statistician and scholar Nassim Nicholas Taleb coined "the Lindy Effect." He wrote, "For the perishable, every additional day in life translates to a shorter additional life expectancy, kind of like me and you and the cheese and our fridge, or the milk and our fridge. But for the non-perishable, every additional day may imply a longer life expectancy." The Lindy Effect says that the longer something has been around, the longer it will stay around.   Paul took this heuristic and with his unique and perceptive insights along with his deep reading of ancient history came to apply it to a broad range of things, including health. He doesn't use mouthwash, a relatively new invention that kills good *and* bad bacteria. But floss—poking stuff out of your teeth—has been around for thousands of years, so that can stay.   This Lindy heuristic is a useful way to navigate our noisy modern world. As reality destabilizes with spiking AI and a fracturing media landscape we can learn and apply long-range lessons from the past to help us today. I love the unique, provocative, and often challenging 'The Lindy Newsletter,' which Lindyman publishes 2-3x weekly, to help us apply the framework to topics as diverse as urban planning, dating, medical trends, drinking trends, and even whether we should listen to health influencers.   Lindyman gave me 3 very interesting and formative books. We talk about them along with the unintended consequences of the woke movement, why you should eat vegan once a week, how modern employment is destroying families, and much more. If you like to have your brain stretched like taffy and provoked by unusual thoughts this is the chapter for you.   Let's flip the page to chapter 145 now.
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Jan 29, 2025 • 1h 53min

Chapter 22: Tim Urban on shivering in shorts and shifting from sheep to chef

Tim Urban, the mind behind the popular blog Wait But Why and author of What's Our Problem, dives deep into the big questions of existence. He shares humorous insights on why we should embrace quirkiness, like letting kids wear shorts in winter. The conversation meanders through the importance of creativity and rule-breaking in both parenting and storytelling. Tim also tackles the art of simplifying complex topics, from AI to procrastination, blending philosophy with practical wisdom in a way that keeps his audience engaged.
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Jan 13, 2025 • 1h 18min

Chapter 144: Nick Sweetman on breaking boundaries with brilliant birds

Nick Sweetman, a prominent Toronto graffiti artist, shares his journey from traditional art to community-focused murals of wildlife. He discusses his creative process in bringing vibrant portrayals of birds and pollinators to life, highlighting the emotional connection between art and nature. Sweetman also touches on the transformative power of imagination, drawing inspiration from childhood literature. The conversation dives into the balance of artistic integrity amidst corporate pressures and the importance of wildlife conservation within urban settings.
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Dec 30, 2024 • 1h 32min

Chapter 18: David Sedaris on holding happiness hostage and healing holes in our hearts

David Sedaris, a bestselling author known for his witty and insightful essays, dives deep into the intricacies of aging and artistic integrity. He shares personal anecdotes about his childhood environment's impact on his literary journey and reflects on the balancing act between commercial success and maintaining authenticity. Sedaris also eloquently addresses societal perceptions of wealth and the emotional complexities of writer-audience connections, offering a glimpse into the profound influence of literature on our identities.
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Dec 21, 2024 • 49min

Best Of 2024: Neil Pasricha plucks pithy pointers to prime ponderings

Happy Solstice!   As we do every December solstice it's time for our 7th Annual "Best Of" episode of 3 Books.   3 Books is our 22-year-long conversation to uncover and discuss the 1000 most formative books in the world.   This year we sat with ​academics at Oxford​ to ​bus drivers in St. Louis​, with ​Jonathan Franzen​ in Santa Cruz to ​Oliver Burkeman​ in the North York Moors, with the ​world's largest bookseller​ and ​Amazon union organizers​, with ​Oscar nominees​ to a ​guy who dresses up all day as as a duck​.   This year I've changed tack and made the "Best Of" highly concentrated—under 50 minutes long!—with little snippets from our diverse guests to provide reflection, provoke your thinking, and help to set intentions for 2025 and beyond.   Thank you for being a 3 Booker and spending time with this incredible community of book lovers spread across the world.   Let’s stop to reflect and then keep enjoying the ride....
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Dec 15, 2024 • 1h 39min

Chapter 143: Chris Smalls on anti-Amazon activism and abolishing aristocracy

Amazon is one of the largest companies in the world with over a million employees in the U.S. alone. A monolith responsible for trillions of dollars of revenue through retail, entertainment, and infrastructure.   But Chris Smalls took it on anyway.   Chris had worked at Amazon for 5 years before he was fired in March 2020 after leading a walkout at Amazon's Staten Island warehouse to protest pandemic working conditions.   "We all got radicalized at some point in our lives," he told me. "My life changed forever when I got fired from Amazon."   Chris used that motivation to work with his former colleagues to try to unionize the warehouse. The first attempt failed, but in March 2022 the vote passed, and it became the first Amazon warehouse in the United States to be unionized.   As of today Amazon has not come to the bargaining table and is pursuing multiple legal actions to avoid recognizing the union, including challenging the constitutionality of the National Labor Relations Board.   What's going on?   I flew down to Hackensack, New Jersey to find out.   What really happened at that warehouse?   And what happens next?   Chris filled me in on life after the union drive, why he's been traveling the globe, his experience being under surveillance by Amazon and the police, what it's like leading protests at Jeff Bezos house, and why the Amazon Labor Union has recently affiliated with the Teamsters.   Chris calls bullshit on a lot of what we hear about labor organizing and reports on what's happening in the street. What can we learn from socialist countries? Why is the U.S. government reluctant to enforce antitrust regulations? What does fair human work look like in an increasingly algorithmic and AI-dominated society?   Pull up a white plastic chair beside us in Chris's backyard as he leans back behind dark shades and plumes of smoke to tell us how working at Amazon is like slavery, what's happening with human jobs as automation skyrockets, whether unions can be effective today, what politicians represent the working class, his 3 most formative books, and much, much more...   Let’s flip the page to Chapter 143 now...
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Dec 1, 2024 • 40min

Chapter 15: Mitch Albom on making music, managing mojo, and memorializing Morrie

Once you find purpose, and once you find style… what’s left? Beauty. What’s left is finding and putting out beauty into the world.   There are not many writers who have genuinely figured this out … but one of them is Mitch Albom. Mitch is the author of '​Tuesdays with Morrie​,' the bestselling memoir of all time, as well as '​The Five People You Meet in Heaven​' and his latest bestseller '​The Little Liar​' which came out in 2023 and debuted at #1 on the New York Times bestseller list. His books have sold over 40 million copies. Mitch just doesn’t turn off. He’s like a Tasmanian Devil. He’s hosting a ​radio show​, he’s on TV, he’s writing columns in the ​Detroit Free Press​, he’s a musician, he’s even running an ​orphanage in Haiti​. Mitch is full of energy and life and moves quickly and talks quickly … and so we talked about that. We go deep into why he moves through life so fast. We unpack his relationship with Morrie and talk about how I actually misinterpreted parts of the book. We talk about what the worst thing you can say to an artist is (which he learned from Maya Angelou) and what the true enemy of getting things done is (and surprise, it’s not time or energy). Fly down to Detroit with me and let's take the elevator way, way up the 96-year-old ​Fisher Building​. Let's enjoy the wise Mitch Albom sharing his 3 most formative books with us in this classic chapter. Let's flip the page to Chapter 15 now...
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Nov 15, 2024 • 2h 12min

Chapter 142: Oliver Burkeman relishes reflection and reveals writing rituals

Oliver Burkeman, a renowned author known for his insightful self-help writings, discusses his latest works 'Four Thousand Weeks' and 'Meditations for Mortals.' He shares the importance of reflection and writing rituals, revealing how he stays focused on meaningful pursuits. The conversation touches on navigating surveillance capitalism and emotional complexities during a book launch. Burkeman also dives into the therapeutic power of writing and journaling, while exploring the intersections of personal growth and societal issues, offering a treasure trove of thought-provoking insights.
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Nov 1, 2024 • 1h 48min

Chapter 7: Vishwas the Uber driver on setting standards and secrets of stellar service

Let's jump into the backseat of Vishwas Aggrawal's Uber and take a trip you won't forget. This is a story about setting your own standards in a world constantly hammering us into "human resources." This is a story about setting your own winning lines in a world that wants us to be widgets. This is a story about raising the bar for yourself and deeply valuing the human connection and love that has the potential to exist between every single one of us. Uber has no formal leaderboard, reward mechanism, or pay-for-performance tied to driver rating.   So why would Vish care? Why would he care about giving thousands of rides and pouring in day after day of high-end customer services to establish an incredible 4.99 rating? Why would he clean his mats between every trip, only eat raw vegetables in his car to avoid odors, and develop masterful scripts that help riders feel deeply valued in the middle of their busy days? Why bother? Join me in the backseat of Vish's Uber as we slowly circle closer and closer to what we're really playing for in our short time on the planet.   We discuss the books that shaped Vish from his upbringing in India to his journey to give his daughter a better education on the other side of the world... even if it meant starting back at the beginning. Vishwas Aggrawal is one of the most engaging and inspiring people I've ever met. After you listen to his story in this classic 3 Books chapter, I hope you feel the same way.   Let's flip the page to Chapter 7 now...
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Oct 17, 2024 • 1h 60min

Chapter 141: James Daunt on bespoke bookselling building Barnes and bonds

James Daunt grew up in England the child of a diplomat—moving countries, tasting cultures, living a life with books and history at its core. He lived in Turkey and Cyprus before coming back to England for boarding school. After studying history at Cambridge, he didn’t know what he wanted to do, so the Career Services department pointed him towards investment banking across the sea in New York City. He actually liked the job but his girlfriend thought it was incredibly boring and encouraged him to quit. He thought, "How do I combine my love of reading and my love of travel into doing something wholly different?" The first Daunt Books independent bookstore opened on Marylebone High Street in London soon after. Unlike nearly every book store in the world he organized his books … by country. Not genre! But by place. Bookselling isn't an easy business! Lots of stores were going belly-up and profits were meager but over time he found a special knack for it. He went to bookselling school, paid fairly, and took mentorship and development seriously. When big bookstore chains started falling in the wake of Amazon, and Waterstones was essentially the only national chain left in the UK, a wealthy entrepreneur bought it and asked James to lead it. He turned the concept of a chain bookstore on its head, suggesting that stores would do better if the head office minimized itself and helped the booksellers operate like their own independent bookstores. Gone were planograms! Head office mandates! He tore up lucrative publisher deals spelling out which books to force onto the front tables to guarantee bestseller lists! He ripped up the rulebook completely. And what happened? Sales shot up. The chain survived ... then thrived. When the new owners of Waterstones bought Barnes & Noble—the largest bookstore chain in the world—they asked James to lead it, too. Today, James Daunt is the biggest bookseller on the planet overseeing nearly 1000 bookshops including his now-9 store Daunt Books indie chain, over 300 Waterstones, and over 600 Barnes & Nobles (including 65 new ones this year!!). I was very excited when James said "yes" to coming on 3 Books. We go deep on learning from history, the role of bookstores in society, his most formative books, the best place to find a date, the key to customer service, leading from behind, and much, much more....   Let’s flip the page to Chapter 141 now...

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