Impact Pricing

Mark Stiving, Ph.D.
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Apr 22, 2024 • 29min

Segmentation Strategies Uncovered: Driving Revenue through Focus and Value with Stephan Liozu

Stephan Liozu has studied, researched, and practiced value-based pricing for over 15 years now. That includes training, speaking, consulting, managing pilot projects, and coaching large scale pricing transformations. In this episode, Stephan highlighted the utmost importance of understanding the value delivered to customers before setting prices, emphasizing a value-first approach to pricing strategies.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Learn the significance of focusing on a specific market segment to avoid distractions, streamline operations and increase chances of success Find out why you don't need to excessively customize your products Discover why prioritizing value over price can develop to more effective pricing strategies and maximize profitability   "Do the value work first and then worry about pricing. So, value-based pricing is 90% value, 10% price. So, if you want to do that very well, value first, then price." - Stephan Liozu   Topics Covered: 02:25 - How Stephan started in pricing 04:13 - Customer segmentation as it relates to value pricing 05:25 - Effective ways of maximizing segmentation 07:17 - Defining customer segmentation and how the SaaS scenario Mark described relate to that 10:16 - Integrating value pricing into customer segmentation 13:03 - What value means to the price buyer 14:11 - How is market segmentation different from customer segmentation? 16:52 - Discussing about product segmentation and taking software for an example 21:28 - The challenge of operationalizing customer segmentation 24:57 - Why focus on one market segment 26:41 - The need to not excessively customize your product 27:42 - Stephan's best pricing advice   Key Takeaways: "Pick one market, focus on it, find your ICP, and then get a few logos; see what happens." - Stephan Liozu "Do the value work first and then worry about pricing." - Stephan Liozu "If you want to do that [value-based pricing] very well, value first, then price." - Stephan Liozu   People/Resources Mentioned: Owens Corning: https://investor.owenscorning.com/ Thales: https://www.thalesgroup.com/en   Connect with Stephan Liozu: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanliozu/   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com  
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Apr 19, 2024 • 4min

Blogcast: Your Inward Focus Causes Horrible Decisions

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on February 29, 2024, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/your-inward-focus-causes-horrible-decisions/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com.  Now, go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  
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Apr 15, 2024 • 27min

Price Justification Techniques: Building Confidence in Sales with Mike Bosworth

Mike Bosworth is a Co-Founder of WeConcile considered as the world's first Relationship Rescue and Restoration application. In this episode, Mike shares effective pricing strategies and sales techniques to hold prices.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Learn about the concept of "buying vision" and help your customers recognize the value of your product or service Learn how to stand firm against pricing pressure and maintain your desired price Discover how to effectively use "polite No's" to firmly establish pricing boundaries   "Understand the value, i.e. how your buyer would use a particular piece of your product to solve their problem. And if you have that knowledge, it's really easy to defend the value of your price."  - Mike Bosworth   Topics Covered: 02:13 - Mike's pricing approach 03:16 - Understanding why salespeople are losing the conversation when it comes to price 06:40 - What is a 'buying vision' and how helpful it is for buyers 07:26 - The need for salespeople to know well their customer's business 10:20 - How 'premature elaboration' gets you at a disadvantage 13:58 - Explaining 'cost justify' and 'price justify' from the buyers point of view 20:49 - The importance of patience in negotiation and use of "polite No's" to stand your ground on pricing 24:36 - Book resource of major negotiation stories you can check out 25:42 - Mike’s pricing advice   Key Takeaways: "The only salespeople who can go out and negotiate their own prices are those ahead of quota." - Mike Bosworth "I say to the managers, if your salesperson is under quotas, you have to go out there and provide the backbone and coach the call ahead of time.” - Mike Bosworth “We want to teach them how to survive that call, but on their own, they're not going to have the ability to do it." - Mike Bosworth   People/Resources Mentioned: Xerox: https://www.xerox.com/en-us Sales Force: https://www.salesforce.com David Crabtree: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hold-out-david-n-crabtree/1119321227   Connect with Mike Bosworth: Linkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikebosworth/   Connect with Mark Stiving:    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com  
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Apr 12, 2024 • 3min

Blogcast: Fear Stymies Your Growth

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on February 22, 2024, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/fear-stymies-your-growth/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com.  Now, go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/
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Apr 8, 2024 • 33min

Decoding the Emotion and Solution-Driven Sales Approach with Joe Woodard

Joe Woodard's vision is to "transform small businesses through small business advisors." And in the service of that vision he and his team educate, coach, provide resources and build communities for small business advisors, with the overarching goal of empowering them to play a powerful, high-impact advisory role with their clients. In this episode Joe shares strategies for Infusing feelings and solutions into your pricing models that drive people's buying decisions.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Find out effective strategies for your sales approach Discover effective hiring strategies to find the perfect team and talent that align with your needs Understand two foundational pillars of value to be effective in selling your product or service   "Infuse everything we've talked about [sales approach] with feelings and solutions into something the client can consume, easily understand, comprehend, and buy easily." - Joe Woodard   Topics Covered: 02:51 - From a Quickbooks advisor to hiring and teaching coaches how to coach businesses 05:40 - How this great quote from John Maxwell became a huge inspiration for his upcoming conference 07:28 - Understanding the two foundational pillars of value 09:31 - Methodologies used to maximize product's value proposition 12:06 - Gaining a competitive by catering to both emotional and solution-oriented needs 13:48 - Incorporating emotional intelligence into your sales approach 18:44 - How mimicking good behaviors is effective in selling 19:33 - Understanding the DISC method for hiring people 24:26 - Delegating outcomes, holding individuals accountable using methodologies like OKRs (Objectives and Key Results) 25:58 - Infusing pricing strategies with a combination of emotional resonance 28:47 - Interplay between emotions and problem-solving in both B2B and B2C contexts 30:06 - Joe's best pricing advice 31:51 - What this conference, 'Boldly Go!' is about   Key Takeaways: "If you're waiting for all risk to go away, you're waiting for all fear to go away, you'll never act. And if you're waiting for perfection, you'll never act. So don't wait on those things. Enter the danger, proceed afraid, fail forward, and then read a lot. That's how I did it." - Joe Woodard "People will only exchange their hard earned dollars for one of two things, how you make me feel, or how you solve my problem." - Joe Woodard "It's not about price, it's about nature." - Joe Woodard   People/Resources Mentioned: John Maxwell: https://www.maxwellleadership.com Michio Kaku: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_Kaku Neil deGrasse Tyson: https://neildegrassetyson.com Malcolm Gladwell: https://www.gladwellbooks.com/ Outliers: https://www.amazon.com/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0316017930 Positive Intelligence: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=positive+intelligence&language Measure What Matters: How Google, Bono, and the Gates Foundation Rock the World with OKRs by John Doerr :https://www.amazon.com/Measure-What-Matters-Google-Foundation/dp/0525536221 Axe: https://www.axe.com/us/en/home.html Red Bull: https://www.redbull.com/ph-en/   Connect with Joe Woodard: Website: https://www.woodard.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/quickbooksadvisor/   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  
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Apr 5, 2024 • 3min

Blogcast: Stopping One of Your Biggest Revenue Leaks: Discounts

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on February 15, 2024, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/stopping-one-of-your-biggest-revenue-leaks-discounts/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com.  Now, go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  
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Apr 1, 2024 • 31min

The Collaborative Approach to Value Selling with Steve Laborda

Steve Laborda is a CEO of Valuebizbooster, Consultant, Coach, Author and Speaker. He is a practitioner in B2B sales and marketing, focusing on improving profitability, how to capture value, and developing the competencies of the commercial people through customer orientation and commercial excellence. In this episode, Steve delves into the intricate blend of art and science involved in the sales process. He emphasizes the importance of incorporating intangibles alongside hard facts, highlighting that both are essential for success and reaching a deal. Furthermore, he underscores the collaborative efforts of individuals within the company, working cohesively as a team to uphold a value-based approach throughout the entire sales process.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Find out the three essential components to value selling in which without each one no decision is reached Discover how value-based selling works in the whole sales process within the company Uncover the effective use of the ROI calculator as a value driver   "Don't forget to work with sales when you do your pricing."  - Steve Laborda   Topics Covered: 01:00 - How he got into pricing 01:30 - The many roles he played 02:41 - Pointing out the 'art' in value, pricing, and selling 04:16 - The intangible benefit other than the emotional, and cognitive aspect of value selling 06:24 - How was his experience different from any other salesperson who's good at building relationships 9:47 - Examples illustrating the three components of the sales process of relationship building, the science part, and the intangibles 11:38 Defining cross-functional value selling 15:04 - Why companies often fail at value-based pricing 17:55 - Calling it a value calculator and not the ROI calculator 20:10 - Why a collaborative way of using the value calculator instead of leaving it to the customer alone 23:36 - Reasons customers likely buy from you 25:35 - Pricing a highly volatile product in the chemical industry 29:23 - Steve's best pricing advice   Key Takeaways: "Yes, you need to do value quantifications, but you need to be able also to be emotional and to read body language and to read the skills that people have in front of you." - Steve Laborda "You need to have sales, marketing, pricing, the technical people, if it's a technical context, to have all those people together to develop that value-based approach so that everybody is behind it..." - Steve Laborda "The value calculator is there for me to give confidence to the salesperson about the price that you can defend to the customer." - Steve Laborda   Connect with Steve Laborda: LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevelaborda/   Connect with Mark Stiving:    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com    
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Mar 29, 2024 • 2min

Blogcast: Proven Value

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on February 8, 2024, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/proven-value-can-be-a-game-changer/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com.  Now, go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  
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Mar 27, 2024 • 3min

Pricing Table Topics: 8 of Clubs – Ban the Word 'Markup'

This one is the 8 of Clubs from the Impact Pricing card deck.  Ban the word markup. First, can we all agree that cost-plus pricing is not optimal? We really want to do value-based pricing, charge what a customer is willing to pay. Got it, so we're all in agreement.  Now, let's talk about the word markup. Markup is defined as, tell me what my costs are, how much do I need to mark that up in order to get the margins that I want? So a markup is by definition cost-plus. Well, it's cost-times, but it's cost-plus. So when we use the word markup, as a company, we're saying we use cost-plus pricing. Now, it is okay, let's say you're running a distribution organization. You're running a grocery store. You've got hundreds of thousands of products to price. You can't do specific value-based pricing on each one of those products. And so, you have to do something. But don't do just cost-plus. When you say we use a 50 point markup or a 20 point markup, we're implying that goes across the board. What we should be saying is, how much margin do we think we can get from this product category? Because margin starts at, what's the price? And then, how much did we have to pay to acquire the product that we sold? So margin is a great term to use when we're thinking about value-based pricing. Markup almost forces us to use cost-plus pricing.  So my advice, stop using that word. Don't let anybody else use that word. Switch your mental thought process to margin, not markup. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  
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Mar 25, 2024 • 26min

Strategic Pricing for Accountants to Earn More But Work Less with Geraldine Carter

Geraldine Carter helps single-owner CPAs go down to 40 hours without giving up revenue.  In this episode, Geraldine reveals effective strategies for tailoring your accounting service business to suit your lifestyle, enabling you to increase revenue without feeling overwhelmed by excessive work.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Discover how accountants can increase their earnings while reducing their workload Learn to craft your message to highlight the value you offer, rather than focusing solely on the cost of your services Uncover the transformation within the services you offer   "Your clients have an expectation to pay and if your prices are too low, they might not buy from you." - Geraldine Carter   Topics Covered: 01:56 - Working less but earning more 03:41 - Flexibility, autonomy and working less hours 05:38 - Mindset shift to less hours work 08:48 - Pricing strategies so accountants work less and increase income 11:10 - How message is structured to a CPA's client in terms of raising his price 14:44 - The idea of selling services but delivering transformations 16:42 - Understanding the services accountants perform and how they earn recurring income 17:20 - What transformation does accountants deliver to companies 22:36 - The beauty of having people see the value in your own business   Key Takeaways: “The revenue that you create in your business has nothing to do with the time that you put in. I mean, you have to grind out the beginning to get it all set up and going. But you can get to the place where you do not have to work 40 or 25 or 15 hours a week. You just have to stay at it until you figure out how to get your hours down.” - Geraldine Carter “Thinking that revenue comes from work for clients is like thinking that time comes from your watch, it's not how that works.” - Geraldine Carter “Your buyer decides what price they want to pay. So, we do tiered pricing, we offer it to the clients.” - Geraldine Carter “Most accountants are selling services, but they're creating and delivering transformations.” - Geraldine Carter "For business owners listening, do not underestimate the power of pricing wisely." - Geraldine Carter   Connect with Geraldine Carter: Website: https://geraldinecarter.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geraldine-carter/   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com  

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