Counseling Talk — A podcast by 9Marks
9Marks
A podcast by 9Marks, with Garrett Kell, Hayley Satrom, and Deepak Reju.
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Dec 8, 2025 • 46min
On Anger, with Chris Moles (Ep. 38)
Garrett, Deepak and Hayley interview pastor and counselor Chris Moles, who says you can’t bully a bully. You change a person’s anger with kindness, compassion and forgiveness.Resources MentionedUprooting Anger by Robert D. Joneshttps://www.chrismoles.orghttps://www.menofpeace.org
Nov 24, 2025 • 53min
On Anger Part 3 (Ep. 37)
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak explore redemptive strategies for dealing with anger problems and growing in faith in Christ.Books MentionedAnger: Calming Your Heart (31-Day Devotional) by Robert D. JonesA Small Book for The Anxious Heart by Edward T. WelchThe Peacemaker by Ken SandeWar of Words by Paul David TrippOther Resources"Moving Toward, Away and Against" Chart (This chart is from the CCEF Marriage Counseling course taught by Winston Smith, 2010)Bible Verses on Anger
Nov 10, 2025 • 38min
On Anger Part 2 (Ep. 36)
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about how people change when they're wrestling with anger. What should we believe, say, think and do if we want to overcome our anger. Resources mentioned:The Heart of Anger by Steve Midgley and Christopher AshAngry Children: Understanding and Helping Your Children Regain Control by Mike Emlet (Booklet)
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Oct 27, 2025 • 47min
On Anger Part 1 (Ep. 35)
The hosts dive into the complex emotions of anger, exploring both its righteous and sinful aspects. Personal stories reveal struggles with anger, from parenting challenges to moments of frustration. They discuss how anger can stem from perceived injustices and differentiate between hot and cold expressions. The conversation includes biblical insights on God's righteous anger and practical advice for counseling those grappling with anger, especially towards God. Key resources are recommended for deeper understanding.
Oct 13, 2025 • 41min
On How To Become A Better Listener (Ep. 34)
Deepak, Garrett, and Hayley talk about the good and bad qualities of a listener and how to grow in your skill of listening.
Aug 11, 2025 • 45min
Interview With Abby Wedgeworth (Ep. 33)
Hayley, Garrett and Deepak interview Abby Wedgeworth (author of best-selling book HELD) about how to care for women who have suffered from a miscarriage. Resources Mentioned:Held: 31 Biblical Reflections on God’s Comfort and Care in the Sorrow of Miscarriage by Abby WedgworthOurs: Biblical Comfort for Men Grieving Miscarriage by Eric SchumacherDark Clouds, Deep Mercy: Discovering the Grace of Lament by Mark Vroegop
Jul 28, 2025 • 42min
On Miscarriage and Infertility Part 2 (Ep. 32)
Hayley, Garrett and Deepak offer 5 Do's and 5 Don'ts in coming alongside those who have suffered with infertility or miscarriage.
Jul 14, 2025 • 37min
On Miscarriage and Infertility Part 1 (Ep. 31)
Hayley, Garrett and Deepak consider the painful experiences of infertility and miscarriage, and how the Lord walks with us in our grief.
Jun 30, 2025 • 34min
On What to Do When You're Stuck (Ep. 30)
What do you do when you're feeling stuck in counseling? How do you help someone when it feels like nothing is changing? Hayley, Deepak and Garrett offer eleven suggestions on how to get unstuck!
Jun 16, 2025 • 42min
On Relational Idolatry, with Ellen Dykas (Ep. 29)
Hayley and Deepak talk with Ellen Dykas about the problems of relational idolatry. What can you do when you turn an important relationship into an idol? How can you find satisfaction in Christ rather than a person in your life?31 Day Devotional on Toxic RelationshipSexual Sanity for WomenSex and the Single GirlHarvest USAArticle: Close Friends and Entangled Hearts: Dykas and Powlison.
