
Counseling Talk — A podcast by 9Marks
A podcast by 9Marks, with Garrett Kell, Hayley Satrom, and Deepak Reju.
Latest episodes

Feb 10, 2025 • 43min
On Adultery Part 1 (Ep. 20)
In this episode of Counseling Talk, Garrett, Deepak, and Hayley begin a 3-part series on adultery and discuss what the Bible says about adultery.Related resources:Envision the End of Your Sin by Garrett KellHelp! My Spouse Committed Adultery: First Steps for Dealing with Betrayal by Winston SmithSubscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert.

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Jan 27, 2025 • 52min
On How to Ask Questions (Ep. 19)
Dive into the art of asking questions that provoke deeper understanding in counseling. Personal anecdotes illustrate how thoughtful inquiries can lead to self-discovery and healing. Discover the balance between guiding questions and allowing freedom of expression. The speakers share practical techniques inspired by biblical examples that enhance connections. Learn about the power of meaningful dialogue in both personal relationships and counseling contexts, cultivating trust and fostering growth.

Nov 18, 2024 • 52min
On Fighting Anxiety, with John Henderson (Ep. 18)
In this final episode of Counseling Talk Season 1, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell interview John Henderson on how to fight anxiety.Related resources:Running Scared by Ed WelchWhen I'm Afraid by Ed WelchA Small Book on Anxious Heart by Ed WelchAnxiety: Knowing God's Peace by Paul TautgesJohn Henderson on anxiety at DRBC

Nov 4, 2024 • 41min
On Common Mistakes (Ep. 17)
Explore the common pitfalls counselors face, including the importance of establishing personal boundaries without sacrificing accessibility. Discover the delicate balance of delivering hard truths while maintaining relationships. Learn about the emotional challenges in handling marital issues and abuse, prioritizing victim safety. Reflect on personal mistakes for growth in ministry, embracing grace and hope despite struggles. Gain insights on managing client expectations and emotional burdens while upholding self-care and session limits.

Oct 21, 2024 • 27min
On Anxiety Part 3 (Ep. 16)
How do we fight our anxiety and how we help others fight it?In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell finish the mini-series on anxiety.Related resources:Engaging with God in the Midst of Anxiety by Deepak RejuA Small Book on Anxious Heart by Ed WelchAnxiety: Knowing God's Peace by Paul Tautges

Oct 7, 2024 • 33min
On Anxiety Part 2 (Ep.15)
What does the Bible say about anxiety?Listen to the second episode of a mini-series on anxiety as Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell discuss. Related Resource:Help, I don't know where my anxiety is coming from by Mike Emlet and Winston SmithHope in an Anxious World – Helen ThorneOvercoming Anxiety – David Powlison

Sep 23, 2024 • 37min
On Anxiety Part 1 (Ep. 14)
Join Deepak Reju, an expert in counseling, Hayley Satrom, a mental health advocate, and Garrett Kell, a spiritual counselor, as they unravel the complex nature of anxiety. They discuss how anxiety acts as a spiritual x-ray revealing our true idols and fears. Personal anecdotes highlight the impact of childhood fears and the struggle between faith and worldly worries. The conversation emphasizes managing anxieties through spiritual reliance, encouraging listeners to view their struggles as opportunities for deeper faith.

Sep 9, 2024 • 31min
On How to Work With Other Counselors (Ep. 13)
Related resources:https://www.heartsongcounseling.org/C4 announcementC4 is a group of like-minded Christian counseling centers across the country that are joining together to foster a spirit of mutual edification and encouragement among its members by providing opportunities for care, consultation, content collaboration, and continuing education. If you’re interested in learning more about C4, visit our website.

Aug 26, 2024 • 46min
On Shame, with Esther Liu (Ep. 12)
Esther Liu, an author who delves into the intricate ties between shame, faith, and the gospel, shares valuable insights in this discussion. She emphasizes how shame affects self-perception and relationships, often underlining issues like anxiety and depression. Drawing from the biblical story of Adam and Eve, she illustrates the contrast between divine compassion and societal shame. The conversation also explores Peter's journey of denial and grace, highlighting the transformative power of forgiveness and the vital role of pastors in addressing shame within their communities.

Aug 12, 2024 • 32min
On Pornography Part 3 (Ep. 11)
Reconciliation after confessing a struggle of pornography can be difficult. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell finish up a series on pornography as they lay out principles for godly reconciliation. Resources for Show 3 - Dating and Marriage Rescue Plan and Rescue Skills by Jonathan Holmes and Deepak RejuRedeem Your Marriage: Hope for Husbands Who Have Hurt Through Pornography by Curtis SolomonReclaim Your Marriage: Grace for Wives Who Have been Hurt by Pornography by Jenny Solomon