
Counseling Talk — A podcast by 9Marks
A podcast by 9Marks, with Garrett Kell, Hayley Satrom, and Deepak Reju.
Latest episodes

Oct 7, 2024 • 33min
On Anxiety Part 2 (Ep.15)
What does the Bible say about anxiety?Listen to the second episode of a mini-series on anxiety as Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell discuss. Related Resource:Help, I don't know where my anxiety is coming from by Mike Emlet and Winston SmithHope in an Anxious World – Helen ThorneOvercoming Anxiety – David Powlison

Sep 23, 2024 • 37min
On Anxiety Part 1 (Ep. 14)
Join Deepak Reju, an expert in counseling, Hayley Satrom, a mental health advocate, and Garrett Kell, a spiritual counselor, as they unravel the complex nature of anxiety. They discuss how anxiety acts as a spiritual x-ray revealing our true idols and fears. Personal anecdotes highlight the impact of childhood fears and the struggle between faith and worldly worries. The conversation emphasizes managing anxieties through spiritual reliance, encouraging listeners to view their struggles as opportunities for deeper faith.

Sep 9, 2024 • 31min
On How to Work With Other Counselors (Ep. 13)
Related resources:https://www.heartsongcounseling.org/C4 announcementC4 is a group of like-minded Christian counseling centers across the country that are joining together to foster a spirit of mutual edification and encouragement among its members by providing opportunities for care, consultation, content collaboration, and continuing education. If you’re interested in learning more about C4, visit our website.

Aug 26, 2024 • 46min
On Shame, with Esther Liu (Ep. 12)
Esther Liu, an author who delves into the intricate ties between shame, faith, and the gospel, shares valuable insights in this discussion. She emphasizes how shame affects self-perception and relationships, often underlining issues like anxiety and depression. Drawing from the biblical story of Adam and Eve, she illustrates the contrast between divine compassion and societal shame. The conversation also explores Peter's journey of denial and grace, highlighting the transformative power of forgiveness and the vital role of pastors in addressing shame within their communities.

Aug 12, 2024 • 32min
On Pornography Part 3 (Ep. 11)
Reconciliation after confessing a struggle of pornography can be difficult. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell finish up a series on pornography as they lay out principles for godly reconciliation. Resources for Show 3 - Dating and Marriage Rescue Plan and Rescue Skills by Jonathan Holmes and Deepak RejuRedeem Your Marriage: Hope for Husbands Who Have Hurt Through Pornography by Curtis SolomonReclaim Your Marriage: Grace for Wives Who Have been Hurt by Pornography by Jenny Solomon

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Jul 29, 2024 • 38min
On Pornography Part 2 (Ep. 10)
Deepak Reju, an expert in overcoming pornography challenges, joins Hayley Satrom, who shares insights on addiction's impact, and Garrett Kell, who highlights the emotional and spiritual battles involved. They discuss the importance of honesty and community support in healing, the complex motivations behind purity struggles, and how spiritual practices like prayer play a crucial role in recovery. The conversation is both insightful and encouraging, emphasizing the path to freedom from shame through faith and accountability.

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Jul 15, 2024 • 41min
On Pornography Part 1 (Ep. 9)
David Powlison, a renowned expert on restoring joy to the sexually broken, joins for a candid discussion about the complexities of pornography. They unpack its cultural representations and moral implications, emphasizing the biblical lens on sin and sexuality. Practical strategies to combat temptation and foster accountability are highlighted, along with the crucial role of gratitude in shifting desires towards God's gifts. They also address the misconception that pornography affects only men, advocating for inclusive support within the church.

Jul 1, 2024 • 48min
On Wayward Children, with Stuart Scott (Ep.8)
Stuart Scott shares insights on parenting wayward children, highlighting the challenges and complexities parents face. He emphasizes the importance of reflection, reconciliation, and ministering to parents in navigating this difficult journey with faith and humility.

Jun 17, 2024 • 29min
On Confidentiality (Ep. 7)
Christians expect strict confidentiality when speaking of their own sins. But is that good for them?In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell discuss how to shepherd secrets for gospel purposes.Related resources:Discipling by Mark DeverIs It Loving to Practice Church Discipline? Jonathan LeemanChurch Membership by Jonathan LeemanYou’re a Pastor, Not a Therapist by Jeremy Pierre

Jun 3, 2024 • 46min
Special Episode: The Kells' Story Part 2 (Ep. 6)
When members of the church suffer it provides a unique opportunity to show tangible love.In this episode of Counseling Talk, Garrett Kell shares with Deepak Reju and Hayley Satrom practical ways of how God’s people loved his family during their season of suffering.Related Resources: The Kell Story Part 1CaringBridge for Eden KellA Do-It-Yourself Marriage Retreat by Deepak RejuHeart Song CounselingThe Center for Biblical LivingFieldstone CounselingCross Care CounselingAnchored Hope
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