

On the Journey
The Coming Home Network: A Network of Catholic Converts
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley, former Pentecostal pastor Kenny Burchard, and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim all came from very different theological backgrounds, but they all ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.
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Feb 19, 2025 • 26min
On the Journey Bonus Episode: Three Questions and an Invitation
We're taking a short break this week from our series on sola Scriptura to invite you to a special event, exclusively for Protestant pastors who have become -- or are thinking seriously about becoming -- Catholics.
There are certain things that only clergy converts to Catholicism can truly relate to -- such as planning your last sermon before resigning from ministry. In this episode, Ken and Kenny share how that last sermon played out for each of them, as well as who they were most afraid to tell about their decision to become Catholic, and which pastor convert was most helpful to them personally as they entered the Church.
The uniqueness of this shared experience among clergy converts highlights why we are so excited to be able to partner with the St. Paul Center for a special conference designed exclusively for converts to the Catholic Faith whose background in Protestant ministry, academia, or the mission field had to be left behind when they became Catholic.
The event will take place May 30-June 1 at the St. Paul Center in Steubenville, OH, near the campus of Franciscan University. We're keeping the event small so everyone can have a chance to talk to everyone else and share experiences, but many of the names of those involved are ones you already know: Dr. Scott Hahn, Dr. John Bergsma, Msgr. Jeffrey Steenson, and of course, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard, all of whom served as Protestant pastors of some kind before becoming Catholic.
If you're a Catholic convert from a professional ministry background, we'd love to see you there! Please reach out to us if you're interested.
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We'll be back next week with another episode in our ongoing series on sola Scriptura!

Feb 12, 2025 • 1h 10min
On the Journey, Episode 163: Sola Scriptura and New Testament Teaching - Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part V
Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice.
In the last episode, Matt, Ken, and Kenny discussed how "sola Scriptura" was clearly not the authority model followed by the early Church. But are there any clues in the writings of the New Testament that indicate whether or not the apostles expected "sola Scriptura" to be the norm for the generations of Christians that followed them?
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Feb 5, 2025 • 58min
On the Journey, Episode 162: Sola Scriptura and New Testament Practice - Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part IV
Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice.
In the previous episode, they discussed how sola Scriptura does not, and cannot work. But if sola Scriptura is indeed Biblical, then Christians are obliged to observe it.
This time around, Matt, Ken, and Kenny begin to reflect on whether or not sola Scriptura is the teaching of the Bible, starting with what we see recorded about how Christian authority functioned in the New Testament itself.
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Jan 29, 2025 • 1h 11min
Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part III: Does Sola Scriptura Even Work? - On the Journey, Episode 161
Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice.
If the Bible Alone is the sole source of authority for Christian faith and practice under sola Scriptura, then why are so many Christians who hold to sola Scriptura divided against one another over what the Bible means?
Matt, Ken, and Kenny talk about the implications intrinsic to sola Scriptura that ultimately make it unworkable on its own as a foundation for Christian authority.
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Jan 22, 2025 • 1h 4min
Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part II: The Right of Private Judgment - On the Journey, Episode 160
Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice.
One of the key effects of the Reformation was that the right of private judgment -- which had always been allowed in a limited way by the Catholic Church-- was expanded by Luther and others to become a universal right, immediately leading to discord and division even among Luther and his earliest followers.
Matt, Ken and Kenny argue that this is one of the main reasons that the Reformation doctrine of sola Scriptura simply does not -- and cannot -- work.
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Jan 15, 2025 • 1h 10min
Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part I: Worldviews in Conflict - On the Journey, Episode 159
Exploring the doctrine of sola Scriptura, the conversation dives into its role as the sole authority in matters of faith, revealing how personal journeys challenge this belief. The speakers reflect on misunderstandings in Catholic-Protestant dialogue and the implications of individual interpretation. A vivid metaphor of an earthquake illustrates the emotional upheaval that can accompany shifts in foundational beliefs. Ultimately, the discussion encourages deeper understanding and community support for those questioning their faith.

Nov 13, 2024 • 60min
On the Journey, Episode 158: Advice for Protestants Attending Their First Catholic Mass
Discover what to expect when attending your first Catholic Mass with insights from former Protestant pastors. They share personal stories about transitioning from familiar worship styles to the richness of Catholic tradition. Explore the significance of the Eucharist and the impact of physical gestures in worship. Learn how community engagement plays a vital role, and enjoy practical tips for newcomers to navigate the beauty of Catholic rituals with an open heart and mind.

Nov 6, 2024 • 60min
On the Journey, Episode 157: If We Hadn't Become Catholic...
Ken Hensley was a Baptist pastor, Kenny Burchard was a Foursquare pastor, and Matt Swaim came from the Wesleyan tradition. They all ended up in the Catholic Church.
But what if they hadn't?
Matt, Ken and Kenny reflect on some of the radical ways their lives have changed since becoming Catholic, and how things might be different if they hadn't entered the Church.
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Sep 4, 2024 • 1h 18min
On the Journey, Episode 156: How We Read Scripture Differently Now - Dei Verbum, Part IX
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard conclude their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation.
Ken, a former Baptist pastor, Kenny, a former Pentecostal pastor, and Matt, who comes from a Wesleyan background, each take a principle from "Dei Verbum," and show how it has enriched and expanded their understanding of what the Bible is and how God speaks through it, now that they view the Scriptures through Catholic eyes.
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Aug 28, 2024 • 58min
On the Journey, Episode 155: Scripture in the Life of the Church - Dei Verbum, Part VIII
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation.
They continue their discussion of how God's Word should infuse, inform, and inspire God's people, not only through the formal liturgy of the Church, but also through private study and devotion.
Matt, Ken, and Kenny look at how official Catholic teaching puts to rest the oft-repeated myth that the Church doesn't want Her members to understand the Bible.
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