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Aug 1, 2022 • 1h 7min

S3 Ep.20 Gigi Levy Weiss – Investing in Platforms today: Learning, Data drivenness, and Web3

Gigi Levy-Weiss, a Founding Partner at NFX, heads up NFX Israel and is widely known as one of the most prolific investors in the region. Gigi has founded several startups, including Playtika, Beach Bum (acquired by Voodoo), InceptionVR, and Ridge. He was also the CEO of 888 Holdings, one of the world’s leading online gaming companies, and served as Division President at Amdocs, a leading billing and CRM provider. In 2014, Gigi was appointed to Facebook’s EMEA Client Advisory Council, and in 2015, he joined the supervisory board at Bertelsmann, one of the world’s largest media companies. As a pilot in the Israeli Air Force, Gigi learned the value of striving for excellence at all times, building learning organizations, and that working together as a team is the real secret to winning. Tune in to this episode as we explore what other industries can learn from gaming companies, the four layers of the evolution of Web3 marketplaces, the existential role of technology—and why Web3 hasn’t changed the world yet. At the end of the episode, we give a short wrap-up of Season 3 of the podcast—this being the last episode for the season—where we reflect on what we learned and discuss key topics related to organizing at scale. We explore the importance of modularity and composability in markets (also check out this piece: https://boundaryless.io/blog/towards-modular-and-composable-markets/ for more insights), as well as thoughts on our relationship with technology, adopting a regenerative mindset, and convivial organizational models. A transcript of the episode can be found on our website. Key Highlights from the Conversation We discussed: > What we can learn from the gaming industry in the context of platforms, ecosystems, and marketplaces > What it means to be a learning organization > Designing products for people to engage in learning > How Gigi approaches Web3 as an investor > The role of centralized services in platforms > Solving real-world challenges through Web3 To Find Out More About Gigi's Work: > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gigilevy/ > Twitter: https://twitter.com/gigilevy > NFX: https://www.nfx.com/ Other References and Mentions: > Fabrice Grinda and Matias Barbero, “Crypto-Enabled Marketplaces,” 2022: https://fabricegrinda.com/crypto-enabled-marketplaces/ > Showing the Way with Web3 Marketplaces: Braintrust—with Gabriel Luna-Ostaseski: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/braintrust/ > Nathan Schneider, “Web3 Is the Opportunity We Have Had All Along: Innovation Amnesia and Economic Democracy”: https://osf.io/2wg6s?view_only=709f1f87528943a4b27de2b5eb0f9eef Find Out More About the Show and the Research at Boundaryless: https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/ Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music Recorded on 20 July 2022.
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Jul 18, 2022 • 59min

S3 Ep.19 Sangeet Choudary – Composability beyond software: building ecosystemic portfolios

Sangeet Choudary returns to the show, and in this episode, we unpack key insights from his latest work – The Building Blocks Thesis. Sangeet Paul Choudary is the founder of Platformation Labs and the best-selling author of Platform Revolution and Platform Scale. He has advised the leadership of more than 30 of the Fortune 500 firms and has been recognized as a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum. Sangeet’s work on platforms has been selected by the Harvard Business Review as one of the top 10 ideas in strategy and has been featured three times in the HBR Top 10 Must Reads compilations. He is appointed to advisory boards and committees at several Global 2000 firms and government bodies, including the ING Group, the MAS’s ASEAN Financial Innovation Network, Boson Protocol, and Standard Bank Group, South Africa. Sangeet is a frequent keynote speaker at leading global forums, including the G20 Summit, the World50 Summit, the United Nations, and the World Economic Forum. In this episode, we delve into Sangeet's recent report and explore how the building block approach can play out in the real-world economy, despite it still being early days. We also discuss why the fundamentals in venture capital will change, the nature of composability, the role of DAOs, and empowering the end-stakeholder. A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: boundaryless.io/podcast/sangeet-choudary/ Key Highlights from the Conversation > Markets evolve towards more composability as more of the value chain becomes digitized. > Traditional extraction models (e.g., economies of complements, data lock-ins, etc.) are challenged. > Value extraction will move to the venture investing and fund layers. > Organizations will need to adopt a more DAO-like structure and become more context-rich (3EO framework). To Find Out More About Sangeet's Work: > Twitter: twitter.com/sanguit > LinkedIn: sg.linkedin.com/in/sangeetpaul > Newsletter: platforms.substack.com/ > Building Blocks Thesis: platformthinkinglabs.com/building-blocks/ You can get an illustrated copy of the Web3 Bootstrapping Playbook, launching in September 2022. Sign up here to get early access: https://bit.ly/3oaRwaP Other References and Mentions: > Ekstep Foundation: ekstep.org/ > "Jack Dorsey says VCs really own Web3 (and Web3 boosters are pretty mad about it)", The Verge, December 2021: www.theverge.com/2021/12/21/22848…-capital-twitter > Re-bundling the Firm around Problems to Be Solved – with Sangeet Paul Choudary: boundaryless.io/podcast/sangeet-paul-choudary/ > Building Permissionless Ecosystems: Data and Infrastructure at DIMO – with Rob Solomon: boundaryless.io/podcast/rob-solomon/ Find Out More About the Show and the Research at Boundaryless: https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/ Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: boundaryless.io/podcast-music Recorded on 9 June 2022.
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Jul 8, 2022 • 56min

S3 Ep. 18 Lisa Gill – Looking Beyond Teal

Lisa Gill is an organizational self-management coach and trainer with Tuff Leadership Training. She was included in the Thinkers50 Radar 2020 for her work with self-managing teams. Lisa is also the host of the Leadermorphosis podcast, where she has interviewed thought leaders and practitioners worldwide about the future of work, and the author of Moose Heads on the Table: Stories About Self-Managing Organisations from Sweden (2020). Tune in to this episode as we discuss why the way we are working is not working. We reflect on new ways of working, the post-agile era of interrogating the “what,” the power of peer-led movements, some great new technologies that are emerging, and why we can’t solve things simply with systems or processes. A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website. Key Highlights > Emerging trends in the world of organizing and teams. > The emerging technologies shaping how we organize. > The importance of identifying guiding principles when adopting new technologies. > Lessons Lisa has learned from working with new types of organizations. > The need to shift behaviors—not just systems. To Find Out More About Lisa’s Work: > Twitter: https://twitter.com/disruptandlearn > Website: https://www.reimaginaire.com/ > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-gill-23815a4/ > Leadermorphosis Podcast: https://leadermorphosis.co/ > Moose Heads on the Table: Stories About Self-Managing Organisations from Sweden (2020): https://www.amazon.com/Moose-Heads-Table-Karin-Tenelius/dp/9151954508/ Other References and Mentions: > Sensemaking Webinar #1 – Organizational Adaptation to the Changing Landscape: https://boundaryless.io/video/sensemaking-webinar-1-organizational-adaptation-to-the-changing-landscape/ > Enspiral: https://www.enspiral.com/ > Loomio: https://www.loomio.com/ > Cobudget: https://cobudget.com/ > Murmur: https://www.murmur.com/ > Maptio: https://www.maptio.com/ > Huddle Craft: https://www.huddlecraft.com/ > Money Movers: https://www.wearemoneymovers.com/ > Teaming: How Organizations Learn, Innovate, and Compete in the Knowledge Economy by Amy C. Edmondson (2012): https://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Organizations-Innovate-Compete-Knowledge-ebook/dp/B007MF3BRA > Matt Black Systems: https://www.mattblacksystems.com/ > The Sovereign Individual: Mastering the Transition to the Information Age by James Dale Davidson and William Rees-Mogg (1999): https://www.amazon.com/Sovereign-Individual-Mastering-Transition-Information/dp/0684832720 > The Bitcoin Standard: The Decentralized Alternative to Central Banking by Saifedean Ammous (2018): https://www.amazon.com/Bitcoin-Standard-Decentralized-Alternative-Central/dp/1119473861/ > The Fiat Standard: The Debt Slavery Alternative to Human Civilization by Saifedean Ammous (2021): https://www.amazon.com/Fiat-Standard-Slavery-Alternative-Civilization/dp/1544526474 Find Out More About the Show and the Research at Boundaryless: https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/ Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music Recorded on 8 June 2022.
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Jun 20, 2022 • 54min

S3 Ep. 17 Trach – DAOs are Orgs: Moving at the speed of trust (in a trustless environment)

Today we're joined by Tracheopteryx – or Trach – a pioneer of decentralized governance, operations, and compensation systems. Trach is co-founder of Coordinape and a previous contributor to yearn finance. In this conversation, we delve into what DAOs are and why the future lies in this framework. We also talk about the connection between ownership and decision-making, striving for a 'trustless' infrastructure, why we might not see companies like Apple or Google 'go DAO' soon, the role of six-person teams – and why everyone working on DAOs is, in essence, collaborating to create a greater pie. A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/tracheopteryx/ Key Highlights We discussed: > What DAOs are and the key differences with corporate governance. > Trustless mechanisms and the Blockchain. > How likely existing traditional players are to embrace DAOs. > What we mean by the word 'trustless'. > How non-developers can get involved with DAOs projects. To Find Out More About Trach’s Work: > Twitter: https://twitter.com/tracheopteryx > Website: https://coordinape.com/ Other References and Mentions: > Compensation in DAOs with Tracheopteryx on the Collectively Intelligent Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/compensation-in-daos-with-tracheopteryx/id1577798978?i=1000538952056 > Helium: https://www.helium.com/technology > Colony: Distributed Organizations That Actually Work – with Aron Fischer and Jack du Rose: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/colony/ > Moving Beyond Coin Voting Governance by Vitalik Buterin: https://vitalik.ca/general/2021/08/16/voting3.html > Blue Sky Project: https://blueskyweb.xyz/ > Thirsty Thirsty: https://www.thirstythirsty.org/ > Ronald Coase, The Nature of the Firm, 1937: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-0335.1937.tb00002.x Find Out More About the Show and the Research at Boundaryless: https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/ Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music Recorded on 3 June 2022.
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Jun 6, 2022 • 1h 4min

S3 Ep. 16 Rob Solomon – Building permissionless Ecosystems: Data and infrastructure at DIMO

Today we’re joined by former guest Rob Solomon, a cofounder at DIMO, a blockchain-enabled IoT protocol for mobility. Rob’s background is in finance, investing, and organizational design. Most recently, he worked at Consensys, the largest Ethereum-focused development company, with a focus on finance, internal economics, and decentralizing the organization. Prior to that, he was at Vroom, a pioneer in the online used-car marketplace sector, and he began his career at the Downtown Project in Las Vegas (a spinoff of Zappos.com), where he worked on investments and implemented holacracy. Tune in to this episode as we discuss the latest developments in Rob’s work since his last appearance on the podcast, how DIMO is like building a city from scratch, understanding the main functions of an organization, and why the future is bright for DIMO. A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/rob-solomon/ Key Highlights We Discussed > DIMO’s infrastructure and open-source technology. > Creating an organization with permissionless contributions. > The role of data unions in managing decentralized data ownership. > Defining decentralized organizing and DIMO’s ecosystem. > Redefining the thesis of ownership and incentives. > Raising capital for a Web3 project. To Find Out More About DIMO and Rob’s Work: > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertsolomon1/ > Twitter: https://twitter.com/robmsolomon > Website: https://dimo.zone/ > Application: https://app.dimo.zone/ > Documentation on DIMO and the token: https://docs.dimo.zone/dimo-overview/overview/what-is-dimo Other References and Mentions: > Software and Protocols for a New Way of Organizing — with Bryan Peters, Rob Solomon & Sascha Kellert: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/bryan-peters-and-sascha-kellert-and-rob-solomon/ > DIMO Podcast #1: Rob Solomon & Kacy Qua: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gno-bhNHxGk Find Out More About the Show and the Research at Boundaryless: https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/ Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music Recorded on 17 May 2022.
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May 23, 2022 • 58min

S3 Ep. 15 Phoebe Tickell – Growing Institutional Imagination Capacity and Collective Intelligence in a Complex World

Phoebe Tickell is a biologist and systems thinker developing methodologies and approaches suited for a better world. She is an innovator with a background in the biological sciences, technology, social entrepreneurship, and systems design. She left the scientific academy with the knowledge that an understanding of complex systems could be applied to real-world pressing issues and that bridges were needed to stretch from theory to practice. She works across multiple societal contexts applying a complexity and systems thinking lens and has worked in organizational design, advised government, the education sector, and the food and farming sector. She is a co-founder of the DGov Foundation – a community of distributed governance practitioners – and a member of Enspiral, a community innovating in decentralizing power and developing decentralized tools and technologies. In 2020, she also created Moral Imaginations to push the frontier of research and implement collective imagination exercises that inspire change and solutions for an era of unprecedented disruption and potential transformation. It’s clear that society needs direction when it comes to change, and in today’s episode we explore how imagination gives us the ability to think beyond traditional frames. Join us as we delve into training a new breed of activists, mapping unintended consequences, coordinating on a massive scale, and accounting for future generations in the choices we make. A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/phoebe-tickell/ Key Highlights We Discussed > Why imagination has become central to building the future. > The moral elements of new ways of organizing. > How diverse teams or communities can work from shared principles. > The importance of staying connected to local communities. > Why coordination is not “everything” for DAOs. To Find Out More About Phoebe’s Work: > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phoebetickell/ > Twitter: https://twitter.com/solarpunk_girl > Website: http://www.phoebetickell.com/ > Moral Imaginations: https://www.moralimaginations.com/ > Moral Imaginations Twitter: https://twitter.com/moral_imagining > Moral Imaginations Substack: https://moralimaginations.substack.com/ Other References and Mentions: > Indy Johar, A Development Future: https://medium.com/hub-engine/a-developmental-future-21bf6412625e > The Manifesto for Moral Imagination: https://medium.com/moral-imaginations/a-manifesto-for-moral-imagination-dbf62f0cb7aa > Trans-contextual Organizing: Shifting Perceptions — with Nora Bateson: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/nora-bateson/ > Daniel Schmachtenberger: https://civilizationemerging.com/about/ > Kevin Owocki, The Green Pill, with Phoebe Tickell: https://greenpill.substack.com/p/12-solarpunk-girl-phoebe-tickell?s=r > L. M. Sacasas – Building a Convivial Society: Autonomy, Tools, Scale, and Capabilities: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/l-m-sacasas/ > MetaGov: https://metagov.org/ > Colony: Distributed Organizations That Actually Work – with Aron Fischer and Jack du Rose: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/colony/ > Samantha Slay, Going Horizontal: https://goinghorizontal.co/ > New Citizenship Project: https://www.newcitizenship.org.uk/ Find Out More About the Show and the Research at Boundaryless: https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/ Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music Recorded on 19 April 2022.
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May 9, 2022 • 49min

S3 Ep. 14 Adam Jackson – Developing and Investing in Web3 Networks: Double Clicking on Braintrust

Adam Jackson founded Braintrust — the world’s first user-controlled talent platform — which aligns incentives, removes expensive middlemen, and gives value and control back to talent and organizations. Prior to founding Braintrust, Adam co-founded Doctor on Demand, the popular video telemedicine provider, with daytime talk show personality Dr. Phil. Other notable ventures include DriverSide, a marketplace that connects car owners with mechanics, which was acquired by Advance Auto Parts in September 2011, and MarketSquare, the first online local shopping destination on the Internet, which was acquired by Intuit in September 2006. Adam is also a passionate angel investor in 100+ companies, including LTSE, SuperHuman, Filecoin, Binance, BlockFi, Automatic, Apero Health, Zenefits, and more. A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/adam-jackson/ Key Highlights We discussed: > How the Braintrust model and its nodes work. > Rewarding commercial nodes. > The role of the non-profit foundation and association in the system. > Maintaining the coherence of Braintrust. > Investing in user-owned networks. > Current experimentations in the token economy space. > The societal impact of having a decentralized talent network. To Find Out More About Adam’s Work: > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajackson/ > Twitter: https://twitter.com/adamjacksonsf > Website: https://www.usebraintrust.com/ > Braintrust’s Discord Community: https://discord.gg/rgUS9aHFCB Other References and Mentions: > Showing the way with Web3 Marketplaces: Braintrust — with Gabriel Luna-Ostaseski: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/braintrust/ > Braintrust: Fighting Capitalism with Capitalism, Not Boring with Packy McCormick: https://www.notboring.co/p/braintrust-fighting-capitalism-with?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web > Deep dive on the Fee Converter: https://medium.com/snowfork/introducing-the-braintrust-fee-converter-21be7c8af951 > Braintrust Academy: https://academy.usebraintrust.com/ > Kunai commercial node: https://www.usebraintrust.com/blog/new-node-addition-kunai > Braintrust Etherscan: https://etherscan.io/address/0x799ebfabe77a6e34311eeee9825190b9ece32824 > Vitalik on quadratic voting: https://vitalik.ca/general/2019/12/07/voting3.html > Gitcoin: https://gitcoin.co/ > $100m investment round: https://www.usebraintrust.com/blog/-100m-btrst-purchase > Dimo: https://dimo.zone Find Out More About the Show and the Research at Boundaryless: https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/ Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music Recorded on 23 March 2022.
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Apr 25, 2022 • 1h 3min

S3 Ep. 13 Antoinette Weibel and Otti Vogt – The ‘Good’ and the ‘Bad’ organization: an ethics perspective

Today we find out how to bridge philosophy, psychology, and management science to understand how businesses can enable a "good society." We are joined by two experts in this field, Antoinette Weibel and Otti Vogt, to find out what questions we need to be asking. Professor Dr. Antoinette Weibel is a full professor for human resource management at the University of St. Gallen. She is President of the Executive Committee of the Institute for Systemic Management and Public Governance at the University of St.Gallen and a member of the Executive Committee of the Institute for Media and Communications Management and the Institute for Business Ethics. Her current core project, ‘Good Organisations’, examines how organisations can become better members of society. Otti Vogt is a disruptive thought leader with over 20 years of experience in implementing strategic business change in multicultural, complex environments and in crafting human-centric learning organisations. As COO and Chief Transformation Officer at ING, he led ING’s global digital transformation programme and oversaw operational service performance for over 20 million customers worldwide. He is also a certified leadership coach, associate of the Globally Responsible Leadership Initiative (GRLI), and was recently named a Top 20 Global Thought Leader on Agile. Tune in to this episode as we explore the power of framing the right questions, how we can enable each other’s flourishing, the role of high-quality relationships and active reflection – and why no single idea will solve everything. A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/antoinette-weibel-and-otti-vogt/ Key Highlights We Discussed > What do we mean by doing ‘good’ or ‘bad’ in business? > The impact of plurality and multiculturalism. > The power of sociality and facilitating higher quality relationships. > Defining a ‘flourishing’ individual and society. > Balancing globalism vs. community and landscape. To Find Out More About Otti and Antoinette’s Work: > Otti’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ottivogt > Otti’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/Otti_Vogt > Antoinette’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoinette-weibel/ > Antoinette’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/antoinetteprof > Website: https://goodorganisations.com/ Other References and Mentions: > Good Organisations’ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMTzXIuJLFz0IcJYztHPShQ > Building a Convivial Society: Autonomy, Tools, Scale, and Capabilities – with L.M. Sacasas: https://www.boundaryless.io/podcast/l-m-sacasas/ > Lorsch, Jay W. “Organization Design: A Situational Perspective.” Organizational Dynamics 6, no. 2 (1977): 2–14. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0090261677900420 Find Out More About the Show and the Research at Boundaryless: https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/ Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music Recorded on 22 March 2022.
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Apr 11, 2022 • 1h 3min

S3 Ep. 12 Jon Alexander – The citizen story: stepping into a many-to-many society

Jon Alexander began his career in advertising, winning the prestigious Big Creative Idea of the Year, before making a dramatic change. Driven by a deep need to understand the impact on society of 3,000 commercial messages a day, he gathered three Masters degrees, exploring consumerism and its alternatives from every angle. In 2014, he co-founded the New Citizenship Project with Irenie Ekkeshi to bring the resulting ideas into contact with reality. Since then, they have been on a mission to figure out how to use our skills — not just to sell stuff — to Consumers, and involve people in the decisions that affect their lives as Citizens. In this engaging conversation, Jon shares some great insights from his latest book Citizens: Why the Key to Fixing Everything is All of Us. We also explore how we can move away from being a passive consumer to being an active agent, how collective power leads to exponential results, the responsibility we have to build our own systems, and what a Citizen democracy means for the government. A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/jon-alexander/ Key Highlights Defining Citizenship The Subject and Consumer stories versus the Citizen story How leaders of organizations can help to empower people to be Citizens Becoming active agents of change and investing in the future To Find Out More About Jon's Work: Twitter: twitter.com/jonjalex Website: www.jonalexander.net New Citizenship Project: www.newcitizenship.org.uk Book: Citizens: Why the Key to Fixing Everything is All of Us Other References and Mentions: Ouishare Fest: www.ouishare.net/fest Arlie Hochschild, The Deep Stories of Our Time: onbeing.org/programs/arlie-hoch…tories-of-our-time Dark Matter Labs - #BeyondTheRules with Indy Johar and Annette Dhami: boundaryless.io/podcast/dark-matter-labs Gov0 in Taiwan: g0v.asia Rob Davies, Phasing out Russian Oil: How UK Consumers Can Help the War Effort, 2022: theguardian.com/environment/2022/…-the-war-effort Better Reykjavik: citizens.is/portfolio_page/better_reykjavik The Liège Food Belt: communitiesforfuture.org/get-inspired…elt-belgium Why Blockchain Should Be Plural: Cosmos and Inter-Blockchain Communication – with Ethan Buchman: boundaryless.io/podcast/ethan-buchman Rebecca Solnit, A Paradise Built in Hell: The Extraordinary Communities That Arise in Disaster, 2010: amazon.com/Paradise-Built-He…es/dp/0143118072 Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at boundaryless.io/resources/podcast Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: boundaryless.io/podcast-music Recorded on 13 March 2022.
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Mar 28, 2022 • 59min

S3 Ep. 11 Michele Zanini – Firms as socially dense markets

Michele Zanini is the co-author of the Wall Street Journal Bestseller, Humanocracy. He is the co-founder of the Management Lab, where, together with Gary Hamel, he helps forward-thinking organizations become more resilient, innovative, and engaging places to work. Michele was previously a senior consultant at McKinsey & Company and a policy analyst at the RAND Corporation. His work has been featured in The Economist, Harvard Business Review, the Financial Times, and the Wall Street Journal. Michele joins the show to discuss how organizations have become so overburdened by bureaucracy and why new organizational models like those developed at Haier and Morningstar can be seen as socially dense markets. Tune in to this episode as we explore Industrial Age contracts, scalable freedom, the open-source software movement, and the continued need for management innovation. A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/michele-zanini-2/ Key Highlights Use case of overcoming bureaucracy and the authoritarian nature of organizations The benefits of socially dense markets Why freedom and control don’t have to be trade-offs The cultural reliance on hierarchical organizations The need to consider management model innovation for the 21st century To Find Out More About Michele’s Work: Twitter: https://twitter.com/michelezanini Website: https://www.humanocracy.com/ Other References and Mentions: Simone Cicero, ‘Contracts and the Future of the Firm’, 2021: Contracts and the Future of the Firm Ronald Coase, The Nature of the Firm: The Nature of the Firm Buurtzorg: https://www.buurtzorg.com/ Apache Foundation: https://www.apache.org/ Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/ Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music Recorded on 22 February 2022.

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