
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast is an ongoing exploration of the future of Platforms & Ecosystems.
Here we explore new perspectives about how we organise at scale in a rapidly changing world.
From Boundaryless SRL
Hosted by Simone Cicero and Shruthi Prakash
Latest episodes

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Jun 10, 2024 • 52min
#102 - Decoding the Viable System Model with Mark Lambertz
Agile practitioner and Viable System Model expert, Mark Lambertz, discusses the importance of cybernetics in building adaptive organizations. He compares the VSM with other frameworks like Boundaryless' Rendanheyi-inspired Platform Organization. The conversation is filled with insights on balancing operational efficiency with strategic adaptability.

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May 27, 2024 • 53min
#101 - Navigating Platform Transitions with Yolanda Martin
Global VP of Design at ClearScore, Yolanda Martin Olivas, shares insights on building platform capabilities in organizations, advocating for a strong infrastructure layer. She discusses the shift towards platform design models driven by growth opportunities and the importance of organizational 'why'. Practical advice on fostering an ecosystem perspective in design teams and the need for strong leadership commitment is highlighted. Tune in for expert insights on navigating platform transitions.

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May 13, 2024 • 58min
#100 - Learning Centered Organizations for the 21st Century with Indy Johar
Indy Johar, Mission Steward of Dark Matter Labs, discusses the need for learning-centered organizations in the 21st century. He emphasizes the importance of localized decision-making, citizen participation, and continuous learning. Indy offers insights on building mission-driven organizations and designing complex systems for sustainability and innovation.

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Apr 29, 2024 • 56min
#99 - The State of Platforms in 2024 with Kelly Sarabyn and Scott Brinker
Kelly Sarabyn and Scott Brinker from HubSpot discuss the evolving dynamics of platform businesses in 2024, covering topics like platform strategies, app ecosystems, and services marketplaces. They emphasize the importance of understanding platform models for tech companies and businesses in modern markets. The conversation also delves into the evolution of platforms from technical infrastructures to complex ecosystems, exploring the future of platforms and products in the industry, customer adoption, and technological evolution.

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Apr 15, 2024 • 1h 4min
#98 - Sandwich Economics: a New Era of Competition with Sangeet Paul Choudary
Advisory and best-selling author Sangeet Paul Choudary discusses 'Sandwich Economics', where firms consolidate power in markets, impacting competition and innovation. He explores the conflict of interest in online platforms and strategic dominance tactics like unbundling and rebundling value. The discussion also covers the impact of AI on market dynamics and the importance of fair value allocation.

Apr 1, 2024 • 59min
#97 - R.I.P. Agile, Long Live Agile 2 with Cliff Berg
On today’s podcast, we host someone who - has been at the forefront of the Agile revolution, and, at the same time, became one of Agile movement's most vocal critics, to the extent, that he dared to say: “R.I.P Agile”.Cliff Berg, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Agile 2 Academy, and a leading figure in Agile and DevOps advising joins our podcast bringing his fresh perspectives on the decline of Agile. He also gives us a peek into the story of a book he recently co-authored, ‘Agile 2: The Next Iteration of Agile’.Cliff takes us through what it means to re-imagine organizational practices and challenges the conventional framework-oriented approach, that often needs more contextualization and grounded action-based research.Join us, as we discuss balancing leadership and self-organizing, and explore pragmatic approaches to operating successful businesses with agility and accountability. This episode goes through a journey - we talk about Cliff’s viral post on the demise of Agile, and what he and a team of co-authors have done to consciously course-correct it, and publish a whole set of new ideas on how to approach Agile with a more contemporary and less ideological stance: Agile 2. Cliff dismisses the narrative of “You don’t need managers”, and challenges why it’s important to reel our thoughts back in when it comes to decentralization of organizations. He lays it out as it is: structure is not a bad thing per se, and the conversation goes through healthy ways of administering structure in organizations.Tune in, if you’re interested in non-ideological ways to embrace agile practices, mixed with some of Boundaryless's staple topics: building optionality, entrepreneurial organizations that go big with skin in the game, and more.Key Highlights👉 Critical intersection between human behavior and technology, emphasizing the need for a deeper understanding of our digital coexistence.👉 Calm Technology as an essential way to creating designs that respect human attention without overwhelming users.👉Building tools that help users focus on the task and not the tool.👉 Complexities of governance in technological and organizational contexts, with a focus on the potentials and pitfalls of decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs).👉 Ways to bring a shift towards innovations that serve humanity and contribute to a more equitable future.👉 Developing a questioning mindset for driving meaningful technological advancements.Topics /chapters(00:00) R.I.P. Agile, Long Live Agile 2 - Intro(02:09) The transition from Agile 1.0 to Agile 2.0(10:36) Solving Limitations of Agile 1.0(18:26) Frameworks as a means to an end(31:23) Increasing Optionality and Designing for Problem Solving(38:16) Finding a Balance in Beauraucracy(44:43) The transformation that sticksRemember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/cliff-berg/ Episode recorded on February 23, 2024Get in touch with Boundaryless:Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcastTwitter: https://twitter.com/boundaryless_Website: https://boundaryless.io/contactsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/boundaryless-pdt-3eo MusicMusic from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://blss.io/Podcast-Music

Mar 19, 2024 • 1h 6min
#96 - Building Calm Technology and Organizations with Amber Case
Cyborg anthropologist Amber Case discusses Calm Technology, advocating for tech to enhance focus. She challenges the notion of 'transparent technology' while exploring organizational governance and questioning tech truths. Amber shares her journey, experiences, and the future impact of technology on society with mindful intent.

Mar 5, 2024 • 1h 2min
#95 - Avoiding the Agile Bureaucracy with Rosa and Hjorteland
Experts discuss avoiding agile bureaucracies by emphasizing collaboration, democracy, and balancing business outcomes. They explore team-centered approaches over hierarchical practices, emphasizing adaptability in complex environments. The conversation delves into the role of purpose, entrepreneurship, and autonomy in creating fast-flowing operational models

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Feb 20, 2024 • 54min
#94 - Susanne Kaiser on Building the Right Things (& Building Things Right)
Susanne Kaiser shares insights on building adaptive socio-technical systems, focusing on Wardley Mapping, Domain Driven Design, and Team topologies. Discussions include bounded contexts, evolutionary journey, and creating dynamic architectures for competitive advantage.

Feb 6, 2024 • 49min
#93 - Beyond the Code: Jeremiah Owyang on the New Era of AI
Jeremiah Owyang, AI startup investor, discusses the exponential growth of AI startups, implications on creativity, health, wellness, and productivity, ethical considerations, democratization of professional skills, and what's next with AI in a thought-provoking discussion. They explore AI's role in reshaping creativity, the rise of AI startups, and the impressive progress of AI technology. They also discuss the future of labor and society in the era of AI, limitations and misconceptions of AI, and the potential of AI in medicine.