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Dec 12, 2023 • 49min

#89 - Why Building On Chain: The Case for Web3 with Jesse Walden

We talked Web3 with Jesse Walden, a true veteran in the crypto and blockchain space. All the conversation revolves around a deep question: why should we build on chain? Join us as Jesse shines a light on the path forward - and on the key outstanding questions for  Web3.  In this episode, we discuss the future of the internet with Jesse Walden - Founder of Variant Fund and Web3 legend. Jesse - is one the most pivotal shapers of the landscape of user-owned internet - and an early-stage crypto funding pioneer - and we are truly honored to have him speak with us. Before spearheading Variant Fund, Jesse had a notable tenure as Program Director at Crypto Startup School—one of the earliest startup accelerators in Crypto and Web3. Before this, he pioneered work at Mediachain Labs, later acquired by Spotify, which underscored his foresight in harnessing blockchain's potential. In this deep discussion, we riff with Jesse around the fundamental elements of the question: “why should we build organizations and products on the blockchain”?  Among the depths discussed, he spoke to us on how crypto isn't merely about currencies but rather about owning a slice of the internet. He helps us revise the structural shifts that this technology affords: from independent digital asset ownership to the idea of complete contracts, and we stretch the surface of what’s only possible to build if we embrace this new perspective.  Towards the end of the conversation, we also dive into what’s the role of venture capital in a different landscape such as that of web3.  Tune in to this engaging conversation as Jesse navigates the realms of crypto, blockchain, and ownership, unveiling their profound implications for the future of the internet. Key Highlights 👉 Redefining Digital Ownership: Exploring the shift from traditional internet usage to owning a piece of the internet through blockchain and smart contracts. 👉 Complete Contracts in Web3: the importance of specifying outcomes in smart contracts amidst dynamism. 👉 New Economic Value in Web3: Bottom-up innovation in Web3, and enabling economic value creation.  👉 Rebuilding Protocols in Web3: Exploring why developers are keen on rebuilding protocols rather than building upon existing ones. 👉 Modular Components in Web3: Building extensive and valuable networks through composability and modularity. 👉 Convergence of Technologies: Exploring the intersection of blockchain computing, zero-knowledge cryptography, and AI. Topics /chapters (00:00) Intro - Why Building On Chain: The Case for Web3 (02:04) Why should you build on blockchain? (06:55) Complete contracts versus incomplete contracts (19:37) Rebuilding a platform vs. Building atop platforms (26:47) Modularity and Monetizing Web3  (42:08) Role of AI in composing products and experiences (45:39) Breadcrumbs and closing suggestions Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website:  https://boundaryless.io/podcast/jesse-walden Recorded on November 10, 2023. Get in touch with Boundaryless: Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at ⁠⁠https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/boundaryless_⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠https://boundaryless.io/contacts⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/boundaryless-pdt-3eo⁠⁠ Music Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: ⁠⁠https://blss.io/Podcast-Music⁠
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Nov 28, 2023 • 50min

#88 - Pioneering Digital Public Infrastructure in India with Arvind Gupta

We discuss India's digital evolution with Arvind Gupta, exploring the country's unique approach to digital inclusion and decentralized networks. Arvind shares his experiences from academia to the key ideas behind Digital Public Infrastructure, emphasizing digital empowerment. Tune in, and discover how India's digital model is not only redefining technology as we know it, but also setting a precedent for the global landscape. In this episode, we sit down with Arvind Gupta, Head and Co-Founder of the Digital India Foundation and deep dive into India’s recent bubbling digital story. As a key shaper of the India Stack, he shared his insights on the country’s unique approach to digital inclusion, and its unwavering commitment to serving the bottom of the pyramid He reinstates India's position as the "data capital of the world" and the transformative power of data in the nation's journey and its crucial potential for empowerment.But what makes India's journey so unique? Well, India's approach has been about innovating building open networks and decentralized systems - something that we’re learning to call Digital Public Infrastructures and Arvind has been instrumental in shaping such a strategy.  Arvind Gupta has held several roles, ranging from being an Adjunct Professor at IIT-BHU, to serving as the CEO of MyGov, a platform championed by PM Modi for inclusive digital governance. His writings have been featured on platforms like the Harvard Business Review and the World Economic Forum, and his accolades, such as the Eisenhower Global Fellowship for Innovation, speak volumes about his commitment to the digital realm. In this thought-provoking conversation, Arvind calls for a reimagining of the internet's original promise—to empower every individual and truly sparks a sense of deep hope.  Join us for this deep dive with Arvind Gupta, as we explore the intricacies of India's digital revolution, its global implications, and the future of technology. Key Highlights 👉 India's digital stack - a deep dive into the UPI, EKYC, Aadhar etc. 👉 How India shifted from traditional models to innovative platforms for societal empowerment. 👉 How India is working towards decentralizing the internet through initiatives like ONDC, OCEN etc. 👉 How the government utilizes the digital infrastructure investment to significant economic savings and market value creation. 👉 What does it mean to be the data capital of the world? 👉 Emphasis on collaborative and open consultations for policy and technology development. 👉 The "Solve for India, Share with the World" approach towards solution building. 👉 The future - Voice Tech, Ethics and Responsibilities of AI, Non Weaponization of Technology etc. Topics /chapters (00:00) Intro - Pioneering Digital Public Infrastructure in India (00:45) Introduction of Arvind Gupta (02:12) Overview on Digital India, policy, infrastructure (13:03) Moving up the Value Chain (21:29) Breaking down the ONDC  (24:22) Governance of Data and Citizen Participation (30:36) Capability Building and Go To Market (37:33) Private Sector Reactions to Open Networks (40:04) Policy Enforcement  (41:16) Future of India’s play in global ecosystems (45:50) Other Mega Trends (46:44) Crypto Ledgers (47:51) Breadcrumbs and other suggestions Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website:   https://boundaryless.io/podcast/arvind-gupta/ Episode recorded on October 17, 2023 Get in touch with Boundaryless: Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at ⁠⁠⁠https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/boundaryless_⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠https://boundaryless.io/contacts⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/boundaryless-pdt-3eo⁠⁠⁠ Music Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: ⁠⁠⁠https://blss.io/Podcast-Music⁠⁠
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Nov 14, 2023 • 1h 4min

#87 BeyondFrames: Living the Networked Society with John Robb

Renowned expert John Robb discusses the destructive nature of networked tribes, dissent dynamics driven by social media, and the transformative effect of AI. He explores the challenges of managing political discussions in companies and the alignment between states and corporations. The chapter also delves into minimizing casualties in Ukraine, the shifting dynamics of global innovation, and concerns about data misuse and concentration of power due to AI and AR.
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Oct 31, 2023 • 49min

#86 Scaling Continuous Discovery in Product Portfolios with Teresa Torres

Renowned product discovery coach Teresa Torres discusses scaling continuous discovery in product portfolios, maintaining coherence and consistency in data collection, ignoring constraints for creative exploration, negotiating and evolving language, and strategies for scaling products. She also explores the shift of power to customers driven by AI and no-code tools, and the importance of matching content to learning goals and going beyond social media feeds.
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Oct 16, 2023 • 55min

#85 Product-Centric Organizations (Portfolios, Taxonomies) with Craig Strong

Craig Strong, Experienced Global Practice Leader at AWS and Chief Technology & Product Officer, discusses the adoption of product-centric organizations. Highlights include the significance of life cycles in product development, asking timely questions, and flexible frameworks that meet complex organizational needs. Key topics covered are viewing taxonomies and ontologies as products, collaboration, scaling organizations, removing bias in product development, and the operationalization of product innovation.
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Oct 2, 2023 • 1h 3min

#84 Gardening Platforms and the Future of Open Ecosystems with Alex Komoroske

Alex Komoroske, product leader at Google Chrome, discusses the future of open platforms and gardening mindsets. Topics include power dynamics, evolving platforms, complex ecosystems, organizational structures, minimizing negative experiences, and accountability in chaotic platforms.
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Sep 26, 2023 • 1min

The Boundaryless Conversation Podcast: Season 5 is coming

Dive into the intersections of technology, geopolitics, and culture. Discover inspiring stories from innovative organizations leading change. Learn how to create resilient, adaptable structures that thrive in a shifting landscape. Gain insights to break free from echo chambers and transform into an effective change-maker. Engage with thought-provoking ideas about the future of organizing and collaboration.
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Jul 12, 2023 • 20min

Season Wrap Up: Emerging Questions on the Future of Platform Organizations

In this season wrap up, podcast hosts Simone Cicero and Stina Heikkilä talk about the new research compass of Boundaryless and ruminate on some of the gems of the season.Simone and Stina also share some highlights from the long list of episodes of the Boundaryless Conversations podcast — almost 90 and counting! — and provide some pointers for future research. It’s worth catching up with the ideas in the recent blog A Research Compass: Platform-Ecosystem Thinking in 2023 when listening to the wrap up. Some of the topics that stood out forming the substance of the new compass include: AI and other technological enablers A new product management framing Building Ecosystemically Software-powered Organizational Evolutions A new Organizational Focus on Resilience The wrap up provides a good appetizer for the upcoming season, which will have some novelties and more co-hosts in store. A special shout-out to Stina who won’t be co-hosting the next season of the podcast. It’s been a great ride and we’re sure that she’ll be back co-hosting more episodes in the future! Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast Get in touch with Boundaryless: Twitter: https://twitter.com/boundaryless_ Website: https://boundaryless.io/contacts LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/boundaryless-pdt-3eo Music Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://blss.io/Podcast-Music
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Jul 10, 2023 • 55min

S04 Ep. 20 Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky - A Situational Update on our Ecosystemic Future

In this season’s final episode, we talk to Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky about how our old ideas of what's normal are disappearing. There is a need to bridge the gap between old and emerging systems, encouraging exploration and experimentation to unlock our Ecosystemic Future. Bill Fischer has spent his entire career involved in innovation, from being a practicing development engineer in industry and government, to being an academic researcher, teacher, and writer, to being involved in several startups. He is currently a Senior Lecturer at the Sloan School of Management, at MIT, and an Emeritus Professor of Innovation Management at IMD, in Lausanne, Switzerland. Lisa Gansky is a social provocateur, serial entrepreneur, angel investor, advisor, international keynote speaker, and author of the bestselling book, “The Mesh: Why the Future of Business is Sharing”. Her work on trust, the sharing economy, and innovation has been central in rethinking 21st-century governance, business models, and community dynamics. The challenges organizations face in adapting to rapid change show that traditional organizational structures are no longer working. To adapt to the changing landscape, a combination of AI, Web3 technologies, and new governance models can enable flexible and modular ways of organizing. New promises emerge through the overlap between organizations and software, unlocking new ecosystem potential where different players and customers come together, focusing on local relationships and embracing transience for more innovative solutions. Above all, it’s important to keep up with optionality and dynamism, both key to the nature of Ecosystemic thinking: co-creation and increasing diversity and variance are going to be essential in the markets of the future. These elements provide the backdrop for this Situational Update on our Ecosystemic Future. Key Highlights 👉 The “not yet” is moving faster than the speed at which organizations can adapt. 👉 Un-centralizing for the future: creating smaller units with more autonomy. 👉 Challenges ahead: technology, jobs, and rethinking traditional career paths. 👉 The old model of “define, refine, and scale” is being disrupted by something more turbulent and community-oriented. 👉 The S-curve of technology is getting shorter, and the narrative behind it is different. 👉 Companies need T-shaped individuals to serve as hubs of people within ecosystems. 👉 Everything is 100% temporal, but our legal systems, tax codes, and educational systems can’t keep up with that model. Topics / chapters (00:00) Dynamic Models and Local Engagement: Nature's Inspiration for Future Relationships (01:24) Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky introduction (02:58) Adapting Products, Services, and Work in an Uncertain World (14:27) Redefining Careers: From Hierarchy to Portfolio of Projects (23:31) Exploring the Potential of Web3 Governance and Programmable Protocols (39:46) The Path to Coherence: Navigating the Convergence and Variance in Future Markets (51:05) Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky’s breadcrumbs Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/lisa-gansky-and-bill-fischer Recorded on April 13, 2023. Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast Get in touch with Boundaryless: Twitter: https://twitter.com/boundaryless_ Website: https://boundaryless.io/contacts LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/boundaryless-pdt-3eo Music Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://blss.io/Podcast-Music
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Jun 26, 2023 • 1h

S04 Ep. 19 Justice Conder - Smart Contracts: eating the 1st Mile of Agile Organizations

In this episode, we dive into the world of smart contracts and their remarkable impact on organizational design. Our guest, Justice Conder, provides a thought-provoking introduction to what he calls the third law of nature of smart contracts. We explore the transformative journey from traditional corporations to the realm of Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs), maintaining a non-ideological mindset and examining the challenges of bridging the gap between the two paradigms. Justice Conder leads DAO Ecosystem Development at Polygon Labs. Previously, he was a full-stack developer and Agile practitioner for over ten years, and entered the world of DAOs through BanklessDAO, where he contributed as a governance solution engineer. With Justice, we explore the disconnect between DAOs and traditional organizations, investigating how smart contracts—as a conceptual evolution of DevOps—could play a pivotal role in driving organizational transformation. We also discuss how pioneering transformations, like Haier’s Rendanheyi management model, have a symbiotic relationship with the on-chain revolution, offering insights into the future of organizational design and management. Get ready to be inspired by the immense potential of Web3 capabilities in product development, and discover how these capabilities can be harnessed to unleash innovation, foster user engagement, and shape the future of products and organizations. Key Highlights 👉 Smart Contracts and the Third Law of Nature 👉 DAOs are ideologically framed: a movement for more equitable organizations 👉 DACs (corporations) rather than DAOs (organizations) may be the space where most promises of smart organization lie 👉 DAOs can magnify rather than solve the tragedy of the commons if leadership is missing 👉 Progressive decentralization is better than presumptive 👉 To be on top of organizational transformation, you need to look far ahead of the current state Topics / chapters (00:00) Smart Contracts: The Unbreakable Third Law of Nature (00:55) Justin introduction (01:51) From the traditional world into the DAO world (04:40) Bridging the Gap: Exploring the Disconnect Between DAOs and Traditional Organizations (18:13) The Role of DevOps, Smart Contracts, and DAOs in Organizational Transformation (27:23) Rendanheyi and the On-Chain Revolution: the Future of Organizational Management (41:47) Unleashing the Potential: Harnessing Web3 Capabilities for Product Development (54:43) Justice Conder's breadcrumbs Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/justice-conder Recorded on June 2, 2023. Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast Get in touch with Boundaryless: Twitter: https://twitter.com/boundaryless_ Website: https://boundaryless.io/contacts LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/boundaryless-pdt-3eo Music Music from Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://blss.io/Podcast-Music

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