

The GoodHard Story Podcast
Katherine Wolf
The good story and the hard story can be the same story. This is where we’re sharing the proof. Feeling isolated by your hurt and heartbreak? Then this place is for you. Join Katherine Wolf and her most trusted friends as they honor the hardest parts of life while making space for the hope and humor in it all. Your weekly pep talk from The GoodHard Story Podcast will load you up with fresh inspiration, practical takeaways, and the soul-deep sense that you are not alone in the story you’ve been given.
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Feb 29, 2024 • 31min
Episode 54: Normalizing Low-Grade Sorrow: How to Deal with Pain that Lingers
Let’s acknowledge an uncomfortable reality: No matter how much healing we receive, a low-grade sadness will remain.
In this vulnerable episode, Kathering shares how surprised she was to realize that having a second baby after her stroke couldn’t replace the months and years of motherhood she lost with her first baby. A low-grade sorrow hummed deep in her heart, and she didn’t know what to do with it.
This side of heaven, all the redemption and restoration in the world might not erase our pain completely. A dull ache will always remain. Instead of trying to shake the low-grade sorrow, we can choose to learn from it instead. Today, Kathrine’s sharing what lessons she took away.
What we’ll cover:
Examining the true source of our sorrows
Seeing our pain as proof that we’re made for wholeness
Developing the habit of calibrating the core of our hope daily
If you’re looking for language to wrap around that lingering ache in your heart today, this episode is for you.
Listen wherever you get your podcasts or at hopeheals.com/podcast.
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Feb 22, 2024 • 37min
Episode 53: Redeeming Anxiety: How the Fear of Loss Can Be An Opportunity for Gain with Curtis Chang
What if some of our problems were never meant to be solved or eliminated? What if we began reframing some problems as opportunities for knowing Jesus more?
In this episode, author and former pastor Curtis Chang joins Katherine to share how his lifelong experience of anxiety has led him to an entirely new understanding of loss, prayer, surrender, and even parenting.
If anxiety has felt like a barrier to spiritual growth rather than an invitation into deeper relationship with God, then this episode is for you.
What We’ll Cover:
-How we know that Jesus experienced anxiety, and why that’s good news for those of us dealing with anxiety today
-Biblically supported and science-backed ways to cope with our fear of loss
-How to thoughtfully parent the most anxious generation in history
- 3 practices that can increase our capacity to hold loss
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Feb 15, 2024 • 20min
Episode 52: Befriending My Mortality: 3 Things Death Taught Me (Solo Episode)
Few topics today are more taboo than death. We’re told that nothing matters more than hanging on to our youth and health and beauty. So how could the END of life be relevant to this moment in our lives?
In this solo episode, Katherine lays out three surprising lessons she learned after nearly dying and how they’ve changed the way she’s living here and now.
If you’re hungry for fresh perspectives on your problems in the present moment, this episode is for you!
What We’ll Cover:
The benefits of surrendering the illusion of control
Gaining clarity on what matters by meditating on our mortality
How confronting death can train us to cope with other losses
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Feb 8, 2024 • 36min
Episode 51: “Not the Mom with the Chickens”: Stewarding the Story You Have with Laura Wifler
How would the narrative of your life, your pain, and your identity change if you started telling your story as if God intended it specifically for YOU? (Spoiler: he did!) Laura Wifler, who is raising a daughter with disabilities, shares how a conscious shift to gospel-thinking is transforming her experience of suffering.
What We’ll Cover
Choosing stewardship instead of balance when schedules feel too full
Cultivating “compassion paired with dignity” for hurting people
Living out the motto “my life is yours”
If you need renewed energy to join God in co-authoring the story of your life with trust, gratitude, and curiosity, this episode is for you.
Laura Wifler is a writer, podcaster, and co-founder of Risen Motherhood and is based in central Iowa. She has authored multiple bestselling, award-winning books for children, including, "Any Time, Any Place, Any Prayer," and "Like Me," and is the co-author of the Risen Motherhood book. You can find her on Instagram, @laurawifler.
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Feb 1, 2024 • 22min
Episode 50: 5 Tips for Accepting Your Story with Katherine Wolf
Most of us are living stories we never would have chosen. Even so, friend, it’s possible for you to live these un-hoped-for realities well.
If you’ve found yourself in a place of suffering, this chapter of your life must start with total shock, sadness, and disbelief. But it doesn’t have to stay in that place. Let’s talk about how.
Today Katherine is sharing a few tips she’s picked up while learning to love—yes, really, LOVE—the life she has.
What We’ll Cover…
Taking intentional time to grieve your losses.
Telling your story to empathetic listeners.
Celebrating the process, not the outcome.
Recognizing your assignment in this life.
Cultivating habitual gratitude for what remains.
Deciding to love your life.
Today, if you only have capacity for the quickest and most practical tips for owning your story, this episode is for you.
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Jan 25, 2024 • 47min
Episode 49: Rethinking Everything We Know About Goodness with Lisa Whittle
In the dictionary of your life, what would be written beside the word “good?” Maybe health, fulfillment, beauty, wealth, comfort, or control?
If God promises to withhold no good thing from those who walk faithfully with him, why doesn’t life feel all that great for those of us who are doing it “right?”
Everything we’ve been taught about goodness could use an update from the kingdom of God. Bold, hilarious Bible teacher Lisa Whittle joins Katherine to imagine how redefining what is good could revolutionize the way we engage our lives, our dreams, and our pain.
If your old definitions of goodness aren’t serving you too well anymore, this episode is for you.
What We’ll Cover:
How popular definitions of goodness lead us to unrealistic expectations that warp our understanding of God's goodness.
Setting healthy boundaries that preserve, rather than prevent, relationships
Maintaining compassion in the midst of empathy overload
The Hard Good: Showing Up for God to Work in You When You Want to Shut Down by Lisa Whittle - https://www.lisawhittle.com/good
Scriptures referenced in this episode:
“For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.” Psalm 84:11 (ESV)
“The Lord will fight for you; you need only to be still.” Exodus 14:14 (NIV)
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Lisa is the best selling author of 9 books and several Bible studies, including Jesus Over Everything and The Hard Good. She is a sought-out Bible teacher for her wit and bold, bottom line approach. She is the founder of online communities: Ministry Strong for ministry leaders and Called Creatives for writers and speakers, and host of the popular Jesus Over Everything podcast. She’s a wife, mom, lover of laughter, good food, and The Bible, and a self-professed feisty work in progress.
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Jan 18, 2024 • 49min
Episode 48: Made to Do Hard Things: Being Forces for Life in a Culture of Death with Matthew Sleeth
Matthew Sleeth, MD, a former emergency room physician and chief of the hospital medical staff, resigned from his position to teach, preach, and write about faith. Dr. Sleeth has spoken at more than one thousand churches, campuses, and events, including serving as a monthly guest preacher at the Washington National Cathedral.
Recognized by Newsweek as one of the nation's most influential Christian leaders, Dr. Sleeth is the executive director of Blessed Earth and author of numerous articles and books.
He lives in Lexington, Kentucky, with Nancy, his wife of more than four decades. Their grown children serve with their families in full-time parish ministry and as medical missionaries in Africa.
We’re talking to one of the more interesting people on the planet today, Dr. Matthew Sleeth, who is going all in on becoming a “force for life in a culture of death” in realms as varied as creation care to suicide prevention to the practice of Sabbath.
Katherine and Matthew exchange vulnerable stories of their rock-bottom moments and the ways God has miraculously transformed their relationship to suffering. Matthew dispels the taboo around suicide by offering biblical honesty, comfort, and hope for the massive number of us grappling with absolute despair in our stories.
If you need real hope in the hard stuff today, this episode is for you.
What We’ll Cover:
Forming a prayer life that looks more like wrestling and less like a wishlist
How to stop waiting for miracles and start recognizing the miracles we’re experiencing here and now
Realistic practices to help us do the things we don’t want to do by putting them into perspective and recognizing where God is at work
What the story of God’s word has to say about suicide
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Jan 11, 2024 • 35min
Episode 47: Radical Joy and Electrifying Camaraderie: A (Virtual) Visit to Hope Heals Camp with Katherine Wolf
What happens when you invite thousands of people with medical complexities to middle-of-nowhere Alabama in the heat of summer? Radical joy and electrifying camaraderie, that’s what.
Katherine sits down with just a few of the people who make Hope Heals Camp happen. For nearly eight years, Katherine and the team have hosted this subversive gathering of people who have suffered greatly but are determined to heal together. What could sound like “the ultimate true bummer of all time” (to quote Katherine) is actually one of the most hopeful places that exists.
Part classic summer camp, part church experience, and part group therapy, Hope Heals Camp is offering resources, respite, and relationships to entire families experiencing disabilities. No matter the diagnosis, age, or location.
And the best part? It’s free of cost to every camper.
If you’re interested in learning more about being a camper or volunteer—or you just need a big dose of optimism about the deeply good things happening in the world—don’t miss this behind-the-scenes conversation about one of the most unique offerings on earth.
Volunteer and camper applications open January 18, 2024 at hopeheals.com/camp.
What We’ll Cover:
How Katherine went from resisting her place in the disability community to founding a camp for families affected by disability
What exactly makes Hope Heals Camp unique among any other family retreat in the world
Our culture of mutual ministry that invites every participant the dignity of serving and the comfort of being served
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Hope Heals Camp video: https://youtu.be/ZHlsGl_L3pI
Hope Heals Camp: https://hopeheals.com/camp
The 5 Stages of Changing Attitudes from the Wheaton College Center for Faith & Disability: https://www.wheaton.edu/wheaton-center-for-faith-and-disability/disability-foundations/the-5-stages/
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Jan 4, 2024 • 41min
Episode 46: Strong Like Water: Designed for Emotional Agility with Aundi Kolber
Ever feel like you need a label across your forehead that reads FRAGILE: HANDLE WITH CARE! In big read letters?
It’s hard to imagine that we can be strong enough to handle all the suffering around us. In this heartening and thought-provoking conversation, Katherine sits down with therapist and author Aundi Kolber to reimagine what it means to be strong and understand how God made our bodies to adapt to heartbreak, hardship, and hurt.
What We’ll Cover:
- What the incarnation of Christ in a human body tells us about God’s design for our own bodies
- Just how far we can expand our definitions of “strength”
- Healthy ways to process our own trauma responses without being defined by them
Show Notes:
Aundi Kolber: https://aundikolber.com/
Strong Like Water: https://aundikolber.com/strong-like-water/
Try Softer: https://aundikolber.com/trysofter/
Suffer Strong by Katherine & Jay Wolf: https://hopeheals.com/books
The Window of Tolerance from Dr. Dan Siegel, MD: https://www.psychologytools.com/resource/window-of-tolerance/
Gabor Maté on trading belonging for authenticity: https://youtu.be/l3bynimi8HQ?feature=shared
Heather Avis: https://www.heatheravis.com/
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Dec 21, 2023 • 38min
Episode 45: Hope in the Holidays
You’re invited to ramble with Katherine and Leah as they reflect on when “the most wonderful time of the year” doesn’t feel all that wonderful. Our hurt, especially during the holidays, could drive us into isolation, shame, or guilt. But it could also invite us into a unique camaraderie if we’re willing to share our pain with other people. Join the conversation, covering everything from the holy burden of becoming a survival guide to releasing yourself of some holiday to-dos to a much-anticipated Hope Heals Camp announcement!
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“And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you.” 1 Peter 5:10 ESV
Hope Heals Camp: https://hopeheals.com/camp
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“Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ.” 2 Corinthians 1:3-5 NIV
“For the Lord God is a sun and shield; the Lord bestows favor and honor. No good thing does he withhold from those who walk uprightly.” Psalm 84:11 ESV
“The good things of God are chiefly peace of conscience, and joy in the Holy Ghost, in this life; fruition of God’s presence, and vision of his blessed face, in the next.” - Sir Richard Baker
Treasures in the Dark: 90 Reflections on Finding Bright Hope Hidden in Our Hurting:
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