Different People

GUEST INTERVIEW: Amira Elghawaby is a Canadian human rights advocate, widely published writer and TEDx speaker. In this episode, Rehman and lisa explore Amira's experience of wearing a hijab as an act of feminism as well as an act of worship, and hear her speak about her father's questioning of why she would create reasons for people to discriminate against her by choosing to wear one. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at differentpeople.ca :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca :: Find Amira at amiraelghawaby.net

GUEST INTERVIEW: In this episode, Rehman and lisa are thrilled to welcome the Director of Engagement and Inclusion at CBC, Nick Davis. Hear us explore how bias and racism is inherent in schools, the workplace and in our communities—and listen in as Nicky and lisa touch on the dynamic between Black men and white women.  :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at differentpeople.ca :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

Anger and defensiveness often characterize conversations about race and difference. Listen in as Rehman and lisa talk about the frustrations of leaders who are People of Colour when they are used as examples of how racism can't be all that bad, given how successful they are. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at differentpeople.ca :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

Feeling vulnerable and afraid of speaking up when it comes to racism, oppression, injustice and inequality is common. This episode looks at how we can create the space for white people to work through their anxiety of saying/not saying and doing/not doing the "right thing" so we can move from fear to understanding, connection and action. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at differentpeople.ca :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

Following weeks of protests and demands for justice for Black, Brown and Indigenous People around the world, Rehman and lisa talk about white supremacy, white privilege and white fragility, and how to create space to have these difficult but necessary conversations. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at differentpeople.ca :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

GUEST INTERVIEW: Rehman and lisa in conversation with Michele Byrne, a Diversity and Inclusion practitioner based in Toronto. We explore the impact of white supremacy in our culture, and its impact on the everyday lives of People of Colour. This podcast was recorded after Ahmed Aubrey was shot and killed while out on a run, but before George Floyd was suffocated to death by a white police officer, and Breonna Taylor was shot and killed, also by police, while asleep in her own home. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at differentpeople.ca :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

In this episode, Rehman and lisa explore the desire to have empathy and understanding about differences, yet fear the wrong thing will come out of our mouths and we will offend. We also talk about how systems (like the western holiday calendar based on Christian cultural traditions) are so entrenched that we fail to see how they make outsiders of people with different cultural and religious values. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at differentpeople.ca :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

This episode explores what it means to be a professional, when much of what passes for professional behaviour and attire is often "white" or informed primarily by western culture. We also talk about how our experiences of either being an immigrant (Rehman), or the child of immigrants (lisa) influenced the education and careers we chose, and how these choices were heavily influenced by our parents. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at differentpeople.ca :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

In this very first episode, hosts Rehman and lisa introduce themselves and the podcast, and talk about how each of them first learned they themselves were different: Rehman as a person of color, immigrant and a Muslim living in Winnipeg, Canada, and lisa as the child of German immigrants growing up in a small French-speaking town in Québec, also in Canada. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at differentpeople.ca :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca