Different People

Part 2 of a conversation with guest Soo Kim, Executive Director for the Office of Transformation. Soo & Abdulrehman follow through on the discussion of relatability between people of colour, but discuss how we can extend that relatability to all people; racialized or not. Soo describes this as a “Utopia”, but we talk about how getting there is tied to justice, reconciliation and an understanding of the trauma racism (intentional or not) causes.

Conversation with guest Soo Kim, Executive Director for the Office of Transformation. Part 1. Soo & Abdulrehman discuss the experiences of scanning a room for other people of colour, finding instant relatability and the reasons for why many people of colour find kinship in each other. And just because it’s unavoidable we briefly talk about men and covid hair. 😑

Update on Season 3.

Being coached doesn't always lead to big insights or changes, but it does reveal what is most important to us. Listen in to this candid coaching conversation in which lisa explores Rehman's experience of the invisible work all diversity and inclusion practitionners do as part of their support to others. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at www.differentpeople.ca :: Instagram @different.people.podcast :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

In the category of now-for-something-completely-different, Rehman coaches lisa on what relatability and allyship look like—and mean—when you're a white woman working in the area of diversity, inclusion and equity.  :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at www.differentpeople.ca :: Instagram @different.people.podcast :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

In our last episode of 2020, Rehman and lisa take on Christmas as a form of systemic racism. We know this is a strong perspective to take, but hear us out. We'd love your feedback. Also, to watch the full talk Rehman gave at the United Way Summit Series in Winnipeg, click here. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at www.differentpeople.ca :: Instagram @different.people.podcast :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

What is whiteness? In this episode, Rehman and lisa examine whiteness not as a skin colour, but as a concept, a standard, a norm and a structure—and how it shapes the world we live in, whether at work, in our traditions or in how we relate to one another. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at www.differentpeople.ca :: Instagram @different.people.podcast :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca :: Mentioned in this episode: www.winnlove.ca and www.laylafsaad.com

Feedback: sometimes it helps you grow, other times it hurts. When you are working to change organizational culture, and participants in your workshop write comments in anonymous evaluations that hint at systemic racism or are thinly veiled personal attacks, it can trigger feelings of upset and distress. Join Rehman and lisa in a vulnerable, heart-felt conversation on the emotional impact of stepping into Diversity, Equity and Inclusion organizational change work. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at www.differentpeople.ca :: Instagram @different.people.podcast :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

What will it take to make our organizations inclusive? And how to launch change initiatives that go beyond a checklist of tactics that appear to institute change (hiring targets, unconscious bias training, pledges signed by CEOs), to instead invite people, particularly leaders, into the uncomfortable internal work of changing their beliefs, mindsets and behaviours? In this episode, Rehman and lisa delve into the biggest barrier to organizational culture change: the common and pervasive belief that what needs changing is outside of us. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at differentpeople.ca :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca

Leadership... organizational culture... engagement at work: These are the themes we will explore through a Diversity, Inclusion and Belonging lens as we step into season two. In this kick-off, Rehman and lisa look at the role of leaders, and what it will take to change systems and cultures at work where bias is entrenched—and how we might go about doing that. Specifically: how do we go from bandage solutions (like posting black squares in social media or signing off on a new hiring policy) to revealing and shifting the privilege that keeps systemic racism in place at the office, the factory and the zoom call. :: Post Production by jonathanle.net :: Music theme by blueimusic.com :: Learn more about us at differentpeople.ca :: Reach lisa and Rehman at podcast@differentpeople.ca