
Trade Talks
Chad P. Bown (Peterson Institute for International Economics) hosts a podcast about the economics of international trade and policy. From trade wars to trade deals, this podcast covers trade developments with insights and economic analysis from one of the world's top trade geeks.
Latest episodes

Apr 4, 2025 • 29min
207. What happened on Trump’s tariff day
Soumaya Keynes, a Financial Times journalist and host of The Economics Show, joins to dissect President Trump’s April 2 tariff announcement. They explore the implications of new tariffs on imports, including a surprising 10% levy affecting various goods. The discussion highlights the controversial tariff formula aimed at reducing the trade deficit and its potential consequences for smaller nations. Insights on the legal dynamics surrounding these policies and their unexpected effects on trade with Asian countries reveal the complex nature of current trade negotiations.

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Mar 16, 2025 • 42min
206. Paul Krugman talks trade, industrial policy, and Trump
Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman, a distinguished professor at CUNY, shares his insights on trade dynamics and industrial policy. He dives into the lessons from agglomeration economies and examines the economic differences between Europe and the U.S. The revival of industrial policy, driven by national security and environmental concerns, is also discussed. Krugman critically analyzes Trump’s trade policies, highlighting the complexities and negative impacts of tariffs on the economy. His expertise sheds light on the evolving landscape of global trade.

Mar 11, 2025 • 34min
205. Trump's Ukraine minerals deal and China
A potential US-Ukraine critical minerals agreement is only the latest effort to address security concerns over US sourcing of critical minerals from China. America’s previous top diplomat for critical minerals, Geoff Pyatt (former Assistant Secretary of State, former US ambassador to Ukraine) joins to explain (33.47).

Mar 6, 2025 • 35min
204. Is Europe ready for Trump?
Europe had a rocky ride during President Trump's first term, but it was largely spared from significant tariffs. The world is different this time around. Former European Commission trade official Rupert Schlegelmilch joins to explain (34:32).

Feb 23, 2025 • 38min
203. What if Trump halts duty-free packages from China?
Shipments of small packages from China have skyrocketed, but the de minimis policy that excludes them from tariffs may end. Chris Casey (Congressional Research Service) joins to explore the history of the US de minimis policy and Amit Khandelwal (Yale University) shares economic research into the question of what happens if the policy ends (37:33).

Feb 14, 2025 • 32min
202. Trump's steel and aluminum tariffs are back
President Trump first imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum in 2018, but this time it's different. Ana Swanson (New York Times) joins to explain (32:23).

Feb 8, 2025 • 30min
201. Trade Talks is back. And so is President Trump.
Tariffs from the new President call for an emergency relaunch of the longstanding trade podcast. Aime Williams (Financial Times) joins to explain what happened with Canada, Mexico, and China (29:50). Read more…

Jan 30, 2024 • 11min
And that is all for Trade Talks
Goodbye for now, as old friend Soumaya Keynes joins Chad Bown to discuss why and what comes next.

Dec 19, 2023 • 46min
200. Has the USMCA improved working conditions in Mexico?
The USMCA was supposed to prevent workers from being mistreated at Mexican factories. How is it working so far?

Dec 10, 2023 • 37min
199. How trade economists busted corruption at the port
When customs officials in Madagascar cheated their country out of tax revenues, economists caught them. But the fight is not over yet.
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