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Trade Talks

206. Paul Krugman talks trade, industrial policy, and Trump

Mar 16, 2025
Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman, a distinguished professor at CUNY, shares his insights on trade dynamics and industrial policy. He dives into the lessons from agglomeration economies and examines the economic differences between Europe and the U.S. The revival of industrial policy, driven by national security and environmental concerns, is also discussed. Krugman critically analyzes Trump’s trade policies, highlighting the complexities and negative impacts of tariffs on the economy. His expertise sheds light on the evolving landscape of global trade.
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  • Agglomeration economies enhance productivity in regions like Silicon Valley, benefiting industries through talent concentration and shared resources.
  • The resurgence of U.S. industrial policy, spurred by national security and climate concerns, necessitates careful oversight to avoid government inefficiencies.

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Agglomeration Externalities and Economic Geography

Agglomeration externalities refer to the benefits that industries and communities experience when they cluster together geographically. These economies thrive in areas with high concentrations of talent and specialized resources, creating a network effect that enhances productivity and innovation. For instance, Silicon Valley serves as a prime example, where tech companies benefit from a shared labor pool and support services, fostering rapid growth and collaboration. Historically, areas like Troy, New York, known for its collar industry, and Pennsylvania's embroidery cluster demonstrate how industrial agglomeration can shape local economies significantly.

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