
The Conversation with Dasha Burns
The Conversation with POLITICO’s Dasha Burns is a fresh take on the traditional Sunday show format, going beyond conventional wisdom and short sound bites to broaden the political conversation. Each week, Dasha will sit down with one of the most compelling – and sometimes unexpected – power players in Washington and beyond for a real discussion about how they are shaping the current moment.
Latest episodes

Jul 13, 2025 • 1h 5min
Trump Border Czar Tom Homan: ‘There Will Be No Amnesty’
Tom Homan, Trump’s border czar and veteran immigration law enforcement official, discusses the implications of the $170 billion allocated for deportation efforts. He defends ICE's tactics and challenges misconceptions about undocumented workers. Salena Zito, a journalist and author, shares gripping insights from her new book on the near assassination of Trump, reflecting on the emotional fallout of political violence and its impact on America’s political climate. Their conversation intertwines law enforcement and the complexities of political engagement.

Jun 29, 2025 • 40min
Marco Rubio on his Many White House Roles. Plus a chat with Trump’s ‘Chief Twitter troll’
Marco Rubio, a prominent figure serving as Secretary of State and National Security Advisor, shares insights on the complex Israel-Iran conflict. Alex Bruesewitz, a key strategist for Trump, discusses his rise in political consulting and the power of online debates in mobilizing the MAGA coalition. Felicia Schwartz provides on-the-ground updates from NATO's efforts to mediate ceasefire talks. The conversation delves into the intricacies of digital activism, political trolling, and the impact of celebrity interactions on international diplomacy.

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Jun 22, 2025 • 50min
Ro Khanna on Elon Musk and Fighting the Establishment
Ro Khanna, a progressive California Congressman, discusses his unfiltered views on U.S. involvement in the Israel-Iran conflict and his take on why Democrats lost ground to Trump. He emphasizes the need for a substantive vision to revitalize the party. Sally Goldenberg, a senior politics editor, joins to analyze the chaotic New York City primary mayoral race and its implications for national Democratic strategies. Together, they highlight how new leadership and clear policies are crucial for moving forward.

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Jun 15, 2025 • 54min
Richard Grenell on Cancel Culture, ‘Normal Gays’ and his friend Melania
Richard Grenell, former Special Envoy to President Trump and current head of the Kennedy Center, shares his thoughts on cancel culture and inclusivity in the arts. He argues that intolerance often comes from the left and discusses the need for the gay community to self-police at Pride events. Grenell also touches on his friendship with Melania Trump, his views on immigration, and a potential run for California Governor. Joining him, political reporter Melanie Mason delves into immigration protests in Los Angeles and Governor Gavin Newsom's response to Trump's military policies.

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Jun 8, 2025 • 43min
Rahm Emanuel Wants to Save the ‘Weak’ and ‘Woke’ Democratic Party Brand
Rahm Emanuel, a seasoned political figure with roles from congressman to Chicago mayor, discusses the Democratic Party's urgent need to refocus on practical issues rather than divisive topics. He also addresses the rising anti-Semitism in America and speculates on the potential for a Jewish president. Joining him, Elizabeth Ralph of Politico Magazine delves into the fallout from Trump-era policies and shares insights on quirky trends like the increase of cosmetic surgery among D.C. men, mixing politics with personal narratives.

Jun 1, 2025 • 47min
Dr. Oz on the future of Medicaid, Trump’s megabill and AI avatar health care
Dr. Mehmet Oz, a well-known physician and former TV host, now heads the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. He discusses pressing issues like potential Medicaid cuts and strategies to lower drug prices, emphasizing the importance of patient curiosity about their health. Also joining the conversation is Kyle Cheney, who dives into the legal showdown surrounding Trump's “Liberation Day” tariffs and its political implications. Together, they navigate the intersections of health policy, caregiving, and the ongoing legal battles influencing the political landscape.

May 28, 2025 • 2min
Introducing: The Conversation with Dasha Burns
Dive into engaging conversations that challenge traditional political narratives. The host explores how influential figures are shaping the current landscape with their unique insights. Expect candid discussions that go beyond sound bites and delve deeper into the realities of power in Washington and beyond. Collaborations are teased for richer perspectives on pressing issues.

May 9, 2025 • 25min
Golf with Trump, sit-downs with Zelenskyy: Bret Baier’s position of influence
Bret Baier, FOX News anchor and chief political anchor, shares his unique experiences in Trump’s Washington and engaging discussions with global leaders like Ukraine's Zelenskyy. He reveals anecdotes from playing golf with Trump and navigating high-stakes interviews. The conversation highlights the media's declining trust and the challenges of delivering unbiased journalism. Baier also discusses his role in covering pivotal Trump events and the changing dynamics of press relations during his presidency.

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May 2, 2025 • 45min
Ex-Pelosi Adviser Tees Off On Jeffries, Democrats
Ashley Etienne, a former adviser to Speaker Nancy Pelosi and VP Kamala Harris, candidly evaluates Hakeem Jeffries’ initial 100 days as House Democratic leader. She discusses the urgent need for Democrats to improve grassroots strategies to regain voter trust. The conversation dives into the inefficacy of political stunts and emphasizes the importance of unified messaging against Trump. Etienne critiques current leadership dynamics and stresses the significance of authentic voter engagement to enhance the party's effectiveness moving forward.

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Apr 18, 2025 • 36min
Democrats’ new path to power | Doug Sosnik
Longtime Democratic strategist Doug Sosnik joins Deep Dive host Dasha Burns to discuss the current identity crisis within the Democratic Party. Sosnik discusses insights from a presentation he’s shared exclusively with Playbook that details the path forward for the Democrats, including how to connect with voters, elevate the right new leaders, and whether or not to oppose Trump or work with him. Dasha Burns is the White House Bureau Chief at POLITICODoug Sosnik is a former Clinton adviser and political strategist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices