The Imagination

Send me a DM here (it doesn't let me respond), OR email me: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comToday I’m honored to have back on the show for a second time: MK ULTRA, SRA, and human trafficking survivor, podcaster, father, anti-child abuse advocate, educator, and another incredible male warrior using his voice to make the world a safer place for our children: Doug McIntyre!Doug was born into a multi-generational incest-based family where - like many other survivors of SRA and extreme trauma you’ve heard on this podcast - he was brutalized to the point of dissociation which created amnesic barriers and a double-life that he wouldn’t be aware of until much later in his life. Doug’s abuse was perpetuated by people who should have been protecting him including family and other members of the cutt network his family was a part of and his journey to healing and recovering memories is still an on-going process. Doug was on ‘The Imagination’ Podcast recently as a guest on the ‘MK ULTRA, Psychic Abilities & Spiritual Gifts’ Panel episode we had and I met him initially through another guest on that episode, Rachel Vaughan. One of the most special parts about the connection between Rachel and Doug is that by meeting and sharing their testimonies, they realized that they are distant cousins and became fast friends. If you remember, Rachel cited Doug’s name and research on the eye-opening piece of her interview where she discussed central heterochromia. Having been exploited for his spiritual gifts and abilities as a child, Doug has done some incredible research on the topic of psychic abilities and spiritual gifts and we are all so lucky to get to learn this ground-breaking information from him! If you missed Doug’s first appearance on the psychic panel - go check that episode out as it was a phenomenal episode with Rachel and Max Lowen! I’ll have it listed in the show notes! Doug is an avid researcher and his ability to self-reflect in his healing is one of the most inspiring parts of his story. As a child who didn’t receive the love and affection he deserved, he more than makes up for it now through his support of other survivors in the community as well as the self-proclaimed love he has learned to cultivate within and give to every part of himself. Doug’s abusers tried everything they could to make him silent and compliant and they made a mistake in underestimating his strength of spirit, relationship with God, and his unwavering ability to pick himself up and keep going. What tried to destroy Doug actually turned him into an absolute warrior and another strong male voice to add to the short list that keeps growing on this show of men speaking out! I’m thrilled to have Doug on the show today and hope you put away everything you’re doing and give him your full attention!Before I finish introducing today’s guest - I wanted to give a quick reminder that if you are a survivor or whistleblower who wants to share your story on the podcast or who wants to share any information privately with me, you can email me at IMAGINEABETTERWORLD2020@GMAIL.COM! I’d also love your support on Substack where I’m taking up journaling as an outlet for me personally to reflect on the podcast, guests, and my advocacy work and you can Subscribe to me at www.emmakatherine.substack.com. All of my social media links are linked in the shownotes and I thank you all with my whole heart for all the love, support and safety you provide to this platform and to every guest!CONNECT W/ EMMA:Email: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comEmma Pietrzak on Direct.meEmma’s Substack | Emma Katherine | SubstackSupport the show

Send me a DM here (it doesn't let me respond), OR email me: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comWhat’s up you guys? Welcome to ‘The Imagination’ - I’m your host, Emma, and I’m not gonna lie - I’m pretty excited for today’s guest and episode. Introducing - anti-parasite expert, human biohacker, educator on womb, sexual and trauma healing, co-founder of Rikileaks on Telegram and across social media platforms, content creator, podcaster, independent researcher and investigator, and someone who selflessly devotes her life to helping people cleanse and detox from the toxins, parasites and dis-eases that live in our bodies that are slowly killing us: Alexia Icenhower!If you missed Alexia’s last podcast episode, you absolutely have to go back and watch it. She broke ground by sharing how parasites, demons and trauma are all interrelated and how we can get our bodies back to a place of health and vitality through simple detoxification protocols. Alexia’s research is profound and has been a catalyst of healing for so many who have suffered immeasurable and debilitating side-effects from medical abuse, and through discovering how our bodies can be hosts for all sorts of parasites to reside in and how to get back to homeostasis. When the rest of the world was panicking over the injections that were popularized over the last few years, Alexia was on the front lines educating others on the harms of jabs and how to reverse-engineer bodily damage for those who got jabbed and got sick. Many of the protocols Alexia advocates for and educates on are all but scrubbed from the internet and she graciously works with all walks of life to make sure everyone has easy access to be their own parasitic exorcist. We all know there's an information war in our midst and the information Lexi offers us she has learned from countless holistic practitioners and protocols that are now being sheltered, censored and hidden from our view. They don’t want you or us to know this crucial information. We forget that dis-ease is not from a lack of pills or pharmaceuticals - but a lack of connection to ourselves and our intuition. Most everything we could ever need to heal won’t be found in a prescription bottle and Alexia has an amazing way of empowering us to reconnect with our bodies and heal from within using holistic and safe approaches that don’t come with a laundry list of harmful side effects. We are blessed to have Alexia’s research available to us and I’m honored to have her back on the show!This time around, Alexia and I have a really exciting announcement! Starting on January 22nd, we are introducing to all of you and others a New Years Parasite Detox Cleanse that we will all do together as a group with Alexia’s guidance! Alexia is going to walk us through all the details we need to know including product recommendations, where to get them, why to get them, how to use them, and what to expect through your detox journey! We know accountability can be difficult and thought the New Year would be a great time to join hands and get healthy together! Alexia is a wealth of knowledge and you are going to learn a ton today - grab a pen and paper before you start watching and mark your calendars for January 22nd!CONNECT WITH ALEXIA:Website: RikileaksRumble: RikiLeaks (rumble.com)Telegram: Telegram: Contact @AlexiaTweetsCONNECT W/ EMMA:Email: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comEmma Pietrzak on Direct.meEmma’s Substack | Emma Katherine | SubstackSupport the show

Send me a DM here (it doesn't let me respond), OR email me: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comToday I’m thrilled to get to introduce to you: MK ULTRA and Project Stargate survivor and whistleblower, targeted individual, podcaster, musician, athlete and former Virginia Tech all-American running back, entrepreneur, mental health advocate, and hometown hero from the Blue Ridge Mountains of VA: Tommy Edwards aka: Touchdown Tommy!Tommy’s story begins in childhood after a strange series of events led to him bumping into a CIA remote viewer at Tasty Freeze in his hometown of Radford, VA who put him into the Stargate program. Years later in 2005, he met an old blind man who would change the trajectory of his life by reintroducing a number of concepts to Tommy’s front personality that he had been extensively trained in as a child and young adult under hypnosis, sedation and trance states that he’s just beginning to understand as being his alters. This old man would gradually prophesize something tragic was going to happen in Tommy’s hometown and after another series of events that wouldn’t make sense until later, Tommy moved home to VA to help his father - who, like Tommy, was a college football phenom at Virginia Tech where they both wore the number 33 and where Tommy earned the nickname, Touchdown Tommy. After heading home in the beginning of April 2007, a headline on the TV stopped Tommy in his tracks: “33 Dead at Virginia Tech”. This was when Tommy began speaking out publicly about mental health and the beginning of his journey weaving together the tapestry of his double-life and piecing together the people, places and things that never made sense… until now. I’m honored to have Tommy as another strong male leading the survivor movement. He’s a man of many accolades - too many to put into a short introduction, but what I do want to note is that Tommy still isn’t free. You will hear of the strange events that took place in Tommy’s childhood today and what you will also discover is that Tommy, like many survivors you’ve heard on this show, isn’t free even though he broke free of what held him captive as a child. He is still targeted, gang-stalked, and is still being victimized. And this is why it’s so important for survivors like Tommy to speak out. We need to bring attention to the entirety of a survivor’s testimony and the real dangers they face just for opposing evil and speaking out against it. I’m thrilled for us all to learn from Tommy and ask that you all put away whatever you are doing and give him your full attention. We are going to be diving deep into some rabbit holes today! CONNECT WITH TOMMY: YouTube:  Tommy Edwards - YouTube Twitter: (1) Tommy Edwards (@TDTommy33) / X (twitter.com)Instagram: Tommy Edwards (@touchdowntommyedwards) • Instagram photos and videosFacebook: FacebookSnapchat: t_edwards7802Cashapp: $DrGonzobingbongCONNECT WITH EMMA & THE IMAGINATION:Emma's Substack: (1) Emma’s Substack | Emma Katherine | SubstackYouTube: "The Fundamental Meaning Behind 'The ImagiNATION' Podcast Defined as Core Values" (youtube.com)EMAIL: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.com   All links: Emma Katherine on Support the show

Send me a DM here (it doesn't let me respond), OR email me: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comDear Listener,Something special happened (vulnerable post)…My podcast, ‘The Imagination’, got recognized and awarded within a business leadership group I’ve belonged to for 5 years called the Arete Syndicate where I’ve had the opportunity to mentor under Andy Frisella and Ed Mylett.At our 5-year anniversary event, there were 6 total awards handed out to some amazing business professionals and entrepreneurs. After the first 5 awards had been given, I was totally caught off guard as my name was called for the 6th and final award - the ‘Be Humble’ award - where I was publicly acknowledged in front of a group of about 100 business professionals and entrepreneurs (NOT conspiracy theorists) for creating a platform (‘The Imagination’) where survivors and whistleblowers can share their testimonies in a safe space that ‘gives a voice to the voiceless’. This wasn’t a win for me - this was a win for our community. To be recognized for this ‘unconventional’ podcast within a community outside of our survivor community is a huge win for us all!This is validation. THANK YOU ALL - this wouldn’t have been possible without every guest brave enough to bare their soul and every single one of you who cares to listen and learn! I’m beyond honored and, yes - extremely ‘humbled’.This was a moment/night I will never forget and it was complete validation that the voiceless are finally being heard!I love you all eternally - thank you for being a part of my journey and for all your unwavering love and support. I promise to never stop fighting for and with all of you until every child is saved and emancipated and every survivor heard!God bless every one of you!Love,Emma Katherine CONNECT WITH EMMA & THE IMAGINATION:Emma's Substack: (1) Emma’s Substack | Emma Katherine | SubstackEMAIL: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.com   All links: Emma Katherine on Direct.meBUY ME A COFFEE: Emma Katherine is Artist (buymeacoffee.com)Support the show

Send me a DM here (it doesn't let me respond), OR email me: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comToday I’m honored to have back on the show for the second time: Human trafficking, satanic ritual abuse and Jesuit mind control survivor and whistleblower, writer and author, educator, blogger, and one of my most requested podcast guests, Svali!Some of you may know her from her blogs, ‘Svali Speaks’ and ‘Svali Speaks Again’, or maybe you’ve read the books she’s authored, “Breaking Free of Cult Programming” and “It's Not Impossible” - all of which have paved the foundations for what we know today about cults, trauma-based mind control, deprogramming, secret societies including the Jesuits, history of the Illuminati and so much more. Born and raised in a cult group and having experienced horrors beyond comprehension as you’ve seen through the guests on this podcast, Svali broke free of her cult group several years ago and has been on a quest to share the knowledge that she has learned from personal experience to help set others free. There is years of eye-opening information on her blogs, and her books give a very concise and blunt look at the underworld of mind control and the underlying mechanisms to which it is orchestrated and performed. Last time Svali was on, we had a fantastic discussion on the history of mind control programming, secret societies, therapeutics and so much more. I’ll have that episode along with the links to her blog and books in the show notes and encourage you all to go check out that episode and support Svali’s work. This time, we are going to do a deeper dive into mind control programming, internal systems and deprogramming and hope you all have a pen and paper ready as we are going to learn a ton and hopefully going to get some of your questions answered!SVALI'S RECOMMENDED READING: "Finding Freedom" Book: Amazon.com: Finding Freedom: Helping Survivors of Ritual Abuse and Mind Control to Heal Back: 9798552283330: Inc, CARE, Getzinger, Jo, Staff, CARE: Books"Prayer Warrior 2" Book: Prayer Warrior 2: Prayers for Healing from Ritual Abuse and Mind Control: Inc, CARE: 9781082594069: Amazon.com: BooksCONNECT WITH SVALI: "Breaking Free of Cult Programming" Book: Svali speaks - Breaking free of cult programming by Svali (amazon.com)"It's Not Impossible" Book: It's Not Impossible: Healing from Ritual Abuse and Mind Control: Speaks, svali: 9781980926252: Amazon.com: Books"Svali Speaks Again" Blog": Blog | Svali Speaks Again | Healing from ritual abuse anSupport the show

Send me a DM here (it doesn't let me respond), OR email me: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comI am excited to bring back the newest podcast regular on ‘The Imagination’: Certified Clinical Trauma Professional, Certified Sex Offender Treatment Provider, Licensed Professional Counselor, Founder of Survivor Support, Podcast host of own podcast and channel  @JonKUhlerLPC on YouTube, father of 3, husband to his high school sweetheart, survivor advocate, and someone you all heavily requested to bring back: Jon Uhler.In case you are new here or missed Jon’s briefing on his background on the first episode we did together, here is a short recap of Jon’s many accolades and credentials: Jon’s work began over 30 years ago and the evolution of his career path is nothing short of astonishing. His education includes attending Epic Bible College, Biola University, Talbot School of Theology, and California State University, and Fullerton. He’s worked in both clinical and administrative capacities, outpatient and hospital settings, intensive day treatment settings, residential treatment programs, and in secure (locked) facilities - including over 11 years on Psychology Staff within the Pennsylvania Dept. of Corrections where hes logged more clinical contact hours within Solitary Confinement than any Psych Staff in the entire US. Prior to his work with incarcerated men, he spent years working with sexual abuse Survivors, and treating Severely Emotionally Disturbed adolescents in group homes and within the largest intensive psychiatric Residential Treatment Facility for troubled youth west of the MIssissippi.When Jon is not providing professional therapy or podcasting, he serves in an advocacy role, toward helping increase safety for vulnerable women and minors, who are being placed in harm's way by those pushing dangerous ideologies, public policies, and legislation. The first time Jon was on, we began a journey into discussing the therapeutic community from a therapist’s perspective who works with survivors of human trafficking, ritual abuse and mind control and did a deep dive into triggers and programming. The second time Jon was on, we continued that conversation discussing programming, linguistics, healthy and unhealthy relationships, and so much more. With each episode with Jon, we are building a crescendo of information valuable to any survivor or advocate to learn in regards to healing and I’m really looking forward to continuing the conversation tonight as Jon takes us further into therapeutics and discussing what to expect and the journey to healing alongside a caring and qualified therapist. CONNECT WITH JON:YouTube:  Jon Uhler - YouTube &  UnMaskingTheTransMovement - YouTubeWebsites:-Home | survivorsupport-WELCOME TO - Unmasking The Trans MovementUnmasking The Trans Movement | Revealing the Truth. Protecting The Most Vulnerable Among Us.-Home | Church ProtectTwitter: (2) Jon K. Uhler, LPC, CCTP, CSOTP (@uhler_jon) / X (twitter.com)CONNECT WITH EMMA & THE IMAGINATION:Emma's Substack: (1) Emma’s Substack | Emma Katherine | SubstackEMAIL: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.com   All links: Emma Katherine oSupport the show

Send me a DM here (it doesn't let me respond), OR email me: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comToday I’m honored to have back on the show: Whistleblower and authority of all things Maximus Inc, loving father fighting the CPS / Family Court system, independent researcher and journalist, podcaster, man of God, and one of my best friends: Jack Pendergrass!If you aren’t familiar with Jack’s research or story, it began when his rights and custody as a father were stripped away from him through the corrupt Family Court system. That was the biggest mistake the child-for-profit mafia that runs Family Court made because it set Jack on a journey to understand how his innocence could have been so grossly ignored and how to fight for his daughter who hasn’t seen him in over a decade. And what the breadcrumbs of Jack’s research led to was a massive and nefarious company that largely puppeteers almost all government divisions and agencies in the US and that has been mining our data and running the world’s largest ‘legal’ child trafficking ring in the US and abroad. This company is called Maximus Inc. Jack’s research is extensive - spanning over a decade - and has brilliantly been able to piece together the history of child trafficking from biblical times leading up to the modern-day child trafficking systems we see today in satanic cults and secret societies, secret government-sponsored child slave programs such as MK ULTRA, and through ‘legal’ entities such as the Family Court and CPS. His research goes above and beyond the realms of where he began, and he is one of the few researchers I put my stamp of approval on. In a world of weakened men who stay conveniently silent, Jack has risen to become a protector of women and children across the world and has been one the biggest supporters and advocates of my own work and this podcast. He even chose this podcast to be the first podcast he ever did - which will be something I always honor and cherish. And ever since - he’s went on to do numerous other podcasts and his research just keeps expanding! Jack’s tireless efforts and research have made him one of the top experts in the world on Maximus Inc and one of my favorite things about him is his desire to serve. He’s not a survivor in the same way many are in this community, yet he is the first to stand up for any and all survivors, whistleblowers and parents like him that are fighting corruption in order to get justice. It is work like Jack’s that educate us on who is pulling the strings - getting us one step closer to full exposure of all that is hidden in the dark. If you missed any of Jack’s other episodes where he shares his personal testimony, the 101 of Maximus Inc, or his incredible break-down of corruption in the state of Tennessee - I’ll have his playlist in the show notes for you all to go check-out. Definitely highly recommend listening to every podcast Jack does! On today’s episode, we will be diving deeper into the rabbit hole of Maximus Inc including recent discoveries Jack has made tying child support to MK ULTRA and much more. Grab a pen and paper because we are all going to be learning a ton together today! RECOMMENDED RESOURCE FROM JACK: Beyond Dutroux ties to 1950s-era CIA covert operation: Plus: the mysterious "Dr. Green" identified (isgp-studies.com)CONNECT WITH JACK: Twitter: (9) Maximus Disclosure (@NoogaJack) / X (twitter.com)Telegram: Telegram: Contact @MaximusDisclosure & Telegram: Contact @OfficialRikiLeakSupport the show

Send me a DM here (it doesn't let me respond), OR email me: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comToday I’m honored to have back on the show for the second time - satanic ritual abuse, human trafficking and MK ULTRA whistleblower and survivor, child abuse and survivor advocate, proud mother and grandmother, someone who has helped to pioneer and pave the way for survivor voices to be heard en masse today, and someone I’m blessed to call a dear friend: Cheryl ‘Hersha’ BeckWhile many of us listening are new to speaking out, have been speaking out for a few years, or who are still observing, Cheryl has pioneered the way for voices all over the world to be heard through DECADES of whistleblowing and finding ways against all odds to have her voice heard. She’s a true hero and inspiration to me and so many survivors have found their own voices through her persistence and bravery to continue to speak out despite the repercussions and consequences.If you missed Cheryl’s first episode we did together where she shared her harrowing testimony - here is a little recap: Cheryl was born into a multi-generational occult and incest-based family who traded her and her sister into government and CIA programs as children in exchange for her parents to have judicial immunity for any crimes that may be committed against them. Cheryl, a bright and precious child who began speaking in full sentences at just 9 months old, was deemed a ‘THROWAWAY CHILD’ by her family due to health reasons as well as because of a simple mistake of the lettering of her middle name on her birth certificate which altered the original Gematria of the name her father gave to her. This, in turn, subjected her to unspeakable horrors at the hands of her own family, her Pediatrician and Dentist - people who should have been protecting her but were also part of the family and network -  as well as experiencing horrific abuses at the hands of prolific abusers, Freemasons, and satanists such as Michael Aquino, Joseph Mengele, the Bush family, and close family friends such as the Rothschilds. Always a rebellious child with the spirit of God in her heart, the system tried to break her and underestimated her unbreakable human spirit. Even through all the horrific abuses she endured, she has defended and stood up for children since she was a small child - a mission that continues to this day.Cheryl shared her testimony the first time she was on - and I highly suggest watching that episode as she shared a ton about programming, Disney, experiencing childhood as an expendable child, and her journey into where she is today as an advocate. I will have that episode in the show notes and hope you take some time to listen and learn. This time around, Cheryl is back to talk about one of the most requested topics I get asked to feature on ‘The Imagination’: Healing. Cheryl will be walking us through her healing journey as a programmed multiple and survivor of the unthinkable. DONATE TO CHERYL ON PAYPAL:write.cabeck@yahoo.comCONNECT WITH CHERYL: Twitter: C.A.Beck1961 (@CABeck1961) / X (twitter.com)Email: write.cabeck@yahoo.comCONNECT WITH EMMA & THE IMAGINATION:Emma's Substack: (1) Emma’s Substack | Emma Katherine | SubstackEMAIL: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.com   All links: Emma Katherine on Direct.meBUY ME A COFFEE: Emma Katherine is Artist (buymeacoffee.com)Support the show

Send me a DM here (it doesn't let me respond), OR email me: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comI am thrilled to have back on the show for a second time: Certified Clinical Trauma Professional, Certified Sex Offender Treatment Provider, Licensed Professional Counselor, Founder of Survivor Support, Podcast host of own podcast and channel  @JonKUhlerLPC on YouTube, father of 3, husband to his high school sweetheart, survivor advocate, and someone you all heavily requested to bring back: Jon Uhler.In case you missed the first episode with Jon, here is a short recap of his testimony: Jon’s work began over 30 years ago, and the evolution of his career path is nothing short of astonishing. His education includes attending Epic Bible College, Biola University, Talbot School of Theology, and California State University, and Fullerton. He’s worked in both clinical and administrative capacities, outpatient and hospital settings, intensive day treatment settings, residential treatment programs, and in secure (locked) facilities - including over 11 years on Psychology Staff within the Pennsylvania Dept. of Corrections where he's logged more clinical contact hours within Solitary Confinement than any Psych Staff in the entire US. Prior to his work with incarcerated men, he spent years working with sexual abuse Survivors, and treating Severely Emotionally Disturbed adolescents in group homes and within the largest intensive psychiatric Residential Treatment Facility for troubled youth west of the Mississippi. The first time Jon was on, we had a ground-breaking discussion about the underlying dynamics of programming and triggers in survivors and it was met with a ton of support from all of you. It’s so rare to see someone in the therapeutic community working successfully with survivors of human trafficking and satanic ritual abuse, but it’s even more rare to see them publicly speaking about it knowing they’ll wear a target on their back and possibly be outcasted or worse.  This time around, Jon is going to discuss with us more about the treatment process for survivors by breaking down the really big and difficult-to-understand concepts underlying trauma into bite size pieces of information that are palatable and easy to digest. Jon has a gift for helping us make sense of things that are impossible to comprehend, and I’m thrilled we all get to spend this time learning more from him about this topic on today’s episode! So please grab a pen and paper and give Jon your undivided attention as you will be learning a ton today!CONNECT WITH JON:YouTube:  Jon Uhler - YouTube &  UnMaskingTheTransMovement - YouTubeWebsites:-Home | survivorsupport-WELCOME TO - Unmasking The Trans MovementUnmasking The Trans Movement | Revealing the Truth. Protecting The Most Vulnerable Among Us.-Home | Church ProtectTwitter: (2) Jon K. Uhler, LPC, CCTP, CSOTP (@uhler_jon) / X (twitter.com)CONNECT WITH EMMA & THE IMAGINATION:Emma's Substack: (1) Emma’s Substack | Emma Katherine | SubstackEMAIL: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.com   All links: Emma Katherine on Direct.meBUY ME A COFFEE: Support the show

Send me a DM here (it doesn't let me respond), OR email me: imagineabetterworld2020@gmail.comI am so excited for today’s episode! Recently on ‘The Imagination’, we did our first ever ‘Super Soldier / Ubermensch Round Table’ event with 3 absolute warriors who were all born into multi-generational incest-based families and from a young age were exploited, sold into, and used in MK ULTRA trauma based mind control experiments where - as children - they were trained and programmed under dissociation to be DELTA super soldier sleeper assets in the United States government’s CIA sponsored child slavery program. What these 3 have lived through, survived and overcome is nothing short of a miracle and with all 3 having become regulars on ‘The Imagination Podcast’, they have also become 3 of my most requested guests. Introducing: Host of 'Desert Dakini - A Survivor's Perspective' on YouTube: Carrie OlajeFounder of ‘The Linen Railroad’ and host @NathanReynolds on YouTube and other platforms: Nathan Reynolds AND:Founder of ‘Organize Safety’, host of 'The Grey Area' Podcast on YouTube and other platforms, and the love of my life, ‘Grey’Last time these 3 were on, we did something revolutionary. We discussed together the ins and outs of DELTA programming, mind control, healing, and so much more - and it’s the first time we’ve brought 3 young warriors together to corroborate their experiences, testimonies, similarities and differences. It was a really special moment for me as all 3 of these individuals have become very special people in my life and special in each other’s lives. Carrie, Nathan and Grey are BACK and this time we are going to dive deep into topics we have not discussed at length on ‘The Imagination’ - including the infrastructure the shadow government, training sites, DUMBS - also known as deep underground military bases, handlers and controllers, and so much more. I’m so excited for this as we are all going to learn together how this happens under our noses and quite literally - right under our feet! Grab a pen and paper and give these amazing guests your full and undivided attention as you are about to learn a ton today!CONNECT WITH CARRIE:YouTube: Desert Dakini: A Survivor’s Perspective - YouTubeCONNECT WITH GREY:YouTube:  The Grey Area - YouTubeTwitter: Grey (@GreyAreaMonarch) / X (twitter.com)Rumble: GreyAreaOperator (rumble.com)Reddit: GreyAreaOperator (u/GreyAreaOperator) - RedditSubstack: The Grey Area | SubstackCONNECT WITH NATHAN:YouTube: Nathan Reynolds (The Linen Railroad) - YouTubeDiscord: DiscordPurchase 'Snatched from the Flames': Book | (snatchedfromtheflames.com)DONATIONS:Venmo: @TheLinenRailroadPAYPAL: snatchedfromtheflames@gmail.comCashApp: $LinenRailroadEmail: snatchedfromtheflames@protonmail.comCONNECT WITH THE IMAGINATION:All links: Support the show