

Shield of the Republic
The Bulwark
Shield of the Republic is a Bulwark podcast co-sponsored by the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia. We probe beyond the hive mind of Washington conventional wisdom on national security and foreign affairs.
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Jan 9, 2025 • 1h 6min
Trump's New International Reality
The hosts dive deep into the chaotic global landscape that awaits Trump, highlighting the looming threats from Iran and Russia's war in Ukraine. They tackle the rise of populism worldwide and the political disturbances fueled by figures like Elon Musk. The challenges of American immigration policy clash with MAGA ideologies, revealing internal conflicts, while discontent among elites post-Brexit surfaces. Insights into the Biden Administration's futile legacy-polishing efforts round out the discussion, painting a complex picture of modern politics.

Dec 20, 2024 • 54min
Deterrence is Cheaper Than War
With Eliot traveling, Eric welcomes back prolific historian and author Hal Brands to the show to discuss his forthcoming book The Eurasian Century: Hot Wars, Cold Wars, and the Making of the Modern World (New York: W.W. Norton, 2025) which will be published in mid-January. They discuss the ideas and careers of geopolitical thinkers Halford Mackinder, Alfred Thayer Mahan, and Nicholas Spykman whose views about the influence of geography on international affairs became enormously influential among political leaders of all stripes in the early to mid-Twentieth Century. They touch on the costs of deterrence versus the much higher costs of great power wars, the breakdown of the international trading system in the 1930s and how it presaged military conflict, why regional crises in the interwar period rapidly metastasized into the most costly global conflict in history and how our contemporary world resembles the world of 1940-1941. They also discuss the rise of China and the bipartisan consensus it has spawned on diagnosing our current international environment but has not yet led to a bipartisan execution of policies to remedy the situation. They also discuss the rise of geopolitical super predators in the 1930s, the evolution of "Fortress Eurasia" -- the emerging alliance among the PRC, Russia, Iran and North Korea, Senator Mitch McConnell's recent Foreign Affairs article arguing against retrenchment, and why it is hard to imagine a future conflict not becoming a global conflict today.
Shield of the Republic will be taking a break for the holidays and will return in early January.
The Eurasian Century: Hot Wars, Cold Wars, and the Making of the Modern World:
https://a.co/d/2XQ7lWa
The Price of American Retreat:
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/price-american-retreat-trump-mitch-mcconnell
Shield of the Republic is a Bulwark podcast co-sponsored by the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia.

Dec 12, 2024 • 1h
A Catastrophic Blow to Putin
Eric and Eliot discuss the rapidly unfolding events in Syria and examine the causes and consequences of the collapse of Bashar al Assad's regime in Syria. They discuss the big winners (Turkey, Israel, the Syrian people and to a lesser extent the U.S) and the big losers (notably Russia and especially Iran). They discuss the timing of the Hayat Tahrir al Sham offensive, how to interpret the claims of HTS leader abu Mohammed al Jolani that the group has moderated, the prospects for Russia maintaining its Khmeimim Air Base and its naval base at Tartus, as well as the future of Iranian national security policy. In particular, they discuss whether the Iranians will have incentives to sprint to a nuclear weapon or whether they will temporize and seek to embroil the incoming Trump administration in an endless negotiation over the nuclear program. They discuss the Biden Administration's efforts to polish its reputation in the aftermath of recent events and the waxing and waning of leadership reputations including former President Barack Obama and former German Chancellor Angela Merkel. They consider what effect events in Syria might have on Trump's approach to the war in Ukraine. They also touch on listener criticisms that calling for greater defense spending seems out of touch with today's American political scene. They consider the results of the recent Reagan National Defense Forum survey and the light those results shed on the question of public support for stronger national defense.
Eliot's latest pieces in the Atlantic:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/12/khamenei-iran-syria/680920/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/12/european-troops-ukraine-war/680928/
Eric & David Kramer's latest in Politico:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/06/trump-ukraine-better-foreign-policy-00192415
Reagan Foundation Study on Public Perception of Defense Spending:
https://www.reaganfoundation.org/media/363274/rndf-survey-nov-2024-memo.pdf
Financial Times Retrospectives on Angela Merkel:
https://www.ft.com/content/0a538c85-27fb-400e-ae8b-f13fb6ce4e72
https://www.ft.com/content/e82af5d9-32ea-444e-93e2-9e457d6a6796
Shield of the Republic is a Bulwark podcast co-sponsored by the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia.

Dec 5, 2024 • 58min
Trump's Nightmare National Security Nominations
Eric and Eliot return from Thanksgiving to discuss the Trump transition and its national security nominations so far. They talk about Kash Patel as FBI Director, the new allegations against Secretary of Defense nominee Pete Hegseth, as well as the nepotistic nominations of in laws Charles Kushner, a convicted felon, as Ambassador to France and Massad Boulos as Middle East advisor. They discuss whether or not to take any solace from the nomination of General (ret.) Keith Kellogg as Ukraine Peace negotiator and the pluses and minuses of the America First Institute peace plan that Kellogg co-authored with Fred Fleitz in April. They also touch on the prospective challenges to civil-military relations that are likely to emerge early in the Trump Administration with mass deportation and prospective purges of the JCS and the senior officer corps more broadly. They discuss a series of developments in Europe and the Middle East that have not received as much attention as they deserve given the focus on the transition in the US including the Presidential election in Romania which was subject to Russian interference and the potential election of a populist, NATO skeptic as President, the rising protests in Georgia that eerily echo what happened in Ukraine with the Revolution of Dignity in 2014 and finally the Syrian opposition offensive against the regime of Bashar al Assad and its capture of Aleppo, Syria's second largest city.
Keith Kellogg and Ukraine:
https://americafirstpolicy.com/issues/america-first-russia-ukraine
https://www.kyivpost.com/analysis/42992
Shield of the Republic is a Bulwark podcast co-sponsored by the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia.

Nov 21, 2024 • 56min
We're Already at War with Russia
In this engaging discussion, John J. Sullivan, a seasoned diplomat and former U.S. Ambassador to Moscow, shares insights from his memoir, *Midnight in Moscow*. He addresses the complexities of U.S.-Russia relations, emphasizing the importance of reciprocity in diplomatic representation. The conversation dives into the detrimental effects of Russian government corruption and the deep-seated animosity embedded in Russian society. Sullivan critiques the Biden Administration's strategies regarding Ukraine and articulates the daunting challenges of negotiating with a deeply entrenched Russia.

Nov 14, 2024 • 1h 1min
What Comes Next for Our National Security?
Eliot shares insights from his trip to Israel, discussing the military strategies against Hamas and Hezbollah. The podcast explores the implications of recent U.S. election outcomes on national security, pondering the role of key political figures. Tensions in Israeli society are highlighted, alongside the challenges in establishing political authority in Gaza. The complexities of Middle Eastern diplomacy, especially in relation to Iran and Russia, present a dynamic backdrop for upcoming U.S. foreign policy decisions.

Nov 7, 2024 • 32min
Trump's Stunning Ignorance
With Eliot traveling, Eric welcomes John Bolton, former Ambassador to the United Nations, National Security Advisor to Donald Trump and author of Surrender is Not an Option and The Room Where it Happened. They discuss why Trump is so susceptible to the blandishments of foreign dictators like Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong Un as well as his abysmal level of basic knowledge of how the U.S. government actually works and international affairs more broadly. They discuss the likely makeup of a Trump national security team in a putative second Trump term and what a Trump victory would mean for Ukraine and the future of NATO. They also discuss what a Harris team might look like and whether a Harris foreign policy would be a continuation of the Biden policies or whether it might be more reflective of the more Reaganite rhetoric she has used on the campaign trail. Finally, they discuss the two or three international security issues that Ambassador Bolton believes will require the most urgent attention from whoever wins the election.
Shield of the Republic is a Bulwark podcast co-sponsored by the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia.

Nov 7, 2024 • 32min
Trump's Stunning Ignorance (with John Bolton)
Note: This was recorded prior to the results of the 2024 presidential election.
With Eliot traveling, Eric welcomes John Bolton, former Ambassador to the United Nations, National Security Advisor to Donald Trump and author of Surrender is Not an Option and The Room Where it Happened. They discuss why Trump is so susceptible to the blandishments of foreign dictators like Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong Un as well as his abysmal level of basic knowledge of how the U.S. government actually works and international affairs more broadly. They discuss the likely makeup of a Trump national security team in a putative second Trump term and what a Trump victory would mean for Ukraine and the future of NATO. They also discuss what a Harris team might look like and whether a Harris foreign policy would be a continuation of the Biden policies or whether it might be more reflective of the more Reaganite rhetoric she has used on the campaign trail. Finally, they discuss the two or three international security issues that Ambassador Bolton believes will require the most urgent attention from whoever wins the election.
Shield of the Republic is a Bulwark podcast co-sponsored by the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia.

Oct 31, 2024 • 56min
Georgia On My Mind
Eric and Eliot try to explain (for a foreign audience and American expats) how it is possible that the election is so close. They discuss the role of inflation, the border, the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan as well as craziness on campus, and elite disdain for non-college educated Americans in fly-over country. They touch on Eric's article in the Bulwark that dissects efforts by former Trump Administration officials to put a patina of coherence and strategy to Trump's views on national security. They examine the objectives and success of Israel's recent retaliatory strike on Iran in response to the October 1 mass ballistic missile attack launched by Tehran as well as the prospects for the region in the aftermath and, in particular, the potential for Israel to reshape the region's politics (spoiler alert: color both Eric and Eliot skeptical). They also examine the dispatch of North Korean soldiers to Russia to fight in the Ukraine war and what that tells one about Putin's vulnerabilities and they discuss Russia's political warfare (with mixed results) in Georgia and Moldova. Finally they finish up with a discussion of recent readings on British naval history, FDR's efforts to mobilize the country for potential war in 1940 and the colonization of Mars.
Shield of the Republic is a Bulwark podcast co-sponsored by the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia.

Oct 24, 2024 • 56min
How Do You Adapt Under Fire?
Eric and Eliot welcome Australian MG (ret.) Mick Ryan to the show to discuss his new book, The War For Ukraine: Strategy and Adaptation under Fire (Naval Institute Press, 2024). They examine the initial strategies pursued by Russia and Ukraine as well as the assumptions that underpinned those strategies as well as considering how the two sides have adapted to changing conditions on the battlefield. They discuss the role of leadership and Ukraine's demonstration of greater ability to implement innovation in tactics on the battlefield from the ground up. Eliot and Mick discuss the difference between the relatively unchanging nature of war as opposed to the evolving character of war and how new technology and doctrine can make a difference in comparative advantage between adversaries. They discuss civil-military strains in both Ukraine and Russia, Russian challenges with mobilization of manpower as well as Ukraine's difficulties with both manpower and training as well as absorbing some of the high end equipment they have received from NATO allies and other partners. They consider the current state of the battlefield, the Kursk offensive by Ukrainian forces and some of the flaws in US and NATO military advice and decision-making during the course of the war.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/liz-cheney-on-american-authoritarianism-d00
War Transformed: The Future of Twenty-First-Century Great Power Competition and Conflict:
https://a.co/d/5LKv7m3
The War for Ukraine: Strategy and Adaptation Under Fire
https://a.co/d/0AoPXRR
Mick's Substack:
https://mickryan.substack.com
Shield of the Republic is a Bulwark podcast co-sponsored by the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia.