

How to Save the World | The Psychology & Science of Environmental Behavior
Katie Patrick
What *really* gets people to take action for the planet? Environmental engineer and designer, Katie Patrick, takes you on a wild intellectual journey into the heart of the environmental psyche, exploring the latest evidence-based behavioral science you can use to get more people to adopt your climate or environmental campaign. Get Katie's secret climate action design tips and indie startup insights to make it happen at https://helloworlde.com/actiontips. Warning: For deep sustainability nerds only 🤓🌏.
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Mar 1, 2021 • 1h 3min
When Public Disclosure of Data Does the Change for You, Harvard Professor Archon Fung PhD Ep16
You can easily see the number of calories in your peanut butter and your car’s safety rating. But this publicly available data comes from hard-won battles - and the numbers behind many of our most crucial issues in healthcare, environment, and finance are either under lock and key - or they are simply not even measured. In this month’s podcast episode I interview Harvard University Professor Archon Fung Ph.D. about what happens when we turn important data that is often hidden and contentious into a publicly available resource for the world to see.
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Feb 1, 2021 • 32min
Why Creativity Will Save the World – A Talk by Katie Ep15
This episode is the recording of a talk I put together about my thoughts and theories about why creativity is the missing link in saving the world. This talk covers the technical creative process, the positive constrictive imagination, the neuroscience of optimism and creative productivity, and most of all, it makes a powerful and scientifically robust argument why we need a positive vision of a future world in order to solve the world’s biggest problems.
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Jan 2, 2021 • 56min
Ecology From Space: How Satellites are Revolutionizing Conservation, Joseph Mascaro PhD Ep14
Planet Labs has launched nearly 200 very small satellites in the atmosphere that take high-resolution images of the earth just about every single day. Today’s guest Joseph Mascaro is a Ph.D. tropical ecologist. He is the Director of Academic Programs at Planet Labs and has the fascinating role of helping conservation groups and academics use these spectacular images of the earth for good. We talk about how fast-paced agile technology development can be used to support environmental protection, how images help us emotionally connect with issues in a way that plain data tend not, and how (counter to popular environmental belief), going to Mars is essential to protect life on earth. Don’t miss out on this fabulous episode!
If you are a conservation organization wanting more information on forest cover, ice-cover, fires, or anything you can see from the air, check out planet.com
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Dec 1, 2020 • 12min
The "Two Lenses" Design Thinking Secret to Solving Every Problem Ep13
This understanding lead me to coin the term, the “two lenses” approach to social change.
The two lenses approach means,
1) Your problem needs to be understood through the lens of measurement or data.
and
2) Your solution needs to be understood through the lens of behavioral psychology.
This is the cornerstone of the design work I do. From my book, How to Save the World, page 7.
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Nov 1, 2020 • 35min
The Behavioral Science of Saving Water with Emily Kleeman from SmartWater Ep12
It’s easy to talk about saving water, but how do you *actually* get people to make real water reductions that you can measure? Environmentally friendly actions are known by psychologists as one of the most difficult things we try and get people to do. A new technology company called WaterSmart has been developing an app that shows you how much water you use compared to your neighbors – and it works. We talk about the technology behind modern water smart meters, what it takes to design for behavior change, and how the water industry’s new immersion in big data is changing how we get people to change for the better.
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Oct 1, 2020 • 14min
The Russian Dolls of Nesting Your Strategy For Change Ep11
What can Russian dolls possibly have to do with changing the world?
It’s a metaphor that I borrowed from a book called “The Big Leap” by PhD psychologist Gay Hendricks. He used the metaphor of “Russian dolls” to describe the process of digging deeper into oneself, and into the subliminal drivers that guide the real reasons we do things. A bit like the process of asking “Why . . . why . . . why?” To peel away the layers of the onion of our life decisions, or to open up the Russian dolls of our inner selves to find the little one that sits in the very core.
Hendrick’s metaphor for digging deeper into the self seemed to also fit beautifully for digging into our strategy for how we change the world.
I started to explain gamification as a kind of “motivational wrapping” we can apply to human behavior.
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Sep 1, 2020 • 30min
Showing Savings as CO2 or Dollars? The Unexpected Metrics of Motivation, April Xiaojing Xu PhD Ep10
In this video, I interview Xiaojing April Xu Ph.D. about what it takes to motivate people to do eco-friendly things. It turns out that it’s often not what you think it is. We talk about interesting phenomena like the Value-Action-Gap, The Crowd-Out Effect, and whether financial or environmental information is more motivating to get people to change. Xiaojing April Xu conducts post-doc research in the behavioral science of energy efficiency at The University of Tennessee.
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Aug 1, 2020 • 12min
The Secret Weapon to Find Your Creative Genius Zone Ep9
Have you ever felt like you had a special kind of skill, or a calling, or some bigger reason for existing on the planet? Have you felt like there is more to life than just working a regular nine-to-five job? Or being a struggling activist working for a pitifully low salary in a sweet but ineffectual non-profit?
Do you get that weird feeling that “there’s gotta be more to life than this?”
I’ve had this feeling forever. I think you probably have it too.
I believe this feeling is a calling that is telling you that you are not operating from your creative genius zone and that you really need to be.
From my book, How to Save the World, pg 41.
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Jul 1, 2020 • 46min
Urban Heat Islands: The Secret Killer You’ve Never Heard Of, Jeremy Hoffman PhD Ep7
Did you know that heatwaves kill more people than all the other weather-caused fatalities (like from cyclones, floods etc) put together? Cities around the world are getting baking hot. Extreme heat gets a lot worse when you live in the city, because of all the concrete and asphalt and it’s called an Urban Heat Island. In this episode, I speak with the very fun and enthusiastic Jeremy Hoffman Ph.D. from the Science Museum of Virginia about a study he conducted that involved getting volunteer drivers and cyclists to ride around the city in Summer wearing a thermometer. What he got was a map of Virginia’s urban heat island. We talk about the frightening dangers of urban heat islands, but also the exciting opportunity we have to use heat data to catalyze a massive revolution in urban greening. The cities of the future are ours to invent. We can all get to work to plant more urban trees, install more green roofs, and turn old car parks into gardens, and really change the world with easy practical contributions to the built environment.
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How to Save the World is a Podcast About the Psychology of What Gets People To Take On Sustainable Behavior and Climate Action.
Environmental engineer, designer, and author, Katie Patrick, hunts down the latest behavioral science literature from top universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Stanford to unearth the evidence-based teachings you can use to get magnitudes more people to adopt your environmental campaign, program, or product. Sign up for Katie's free behavior and gamification design course at katiepatrick.com
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This podcast is supported by our friends at Earth Hacks who run environmental hackathons, Conservation X Labs who promote community-driven open tech development for conservation, and Climate Designers - a network of designers who use their creative skills for climate action. You might enjoy joining their communities and events.
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Apr 1, 2020 • 39min
Measuring Where All the Trash Goes & Urban Legibility, Professor Dietmar Offenhuber PhD Ep6
Where does all your trash really go after you throw it away? Dietmar worked on the MIT Trash Track Project where they attached GPS sensors to hundreds of pieces of garbage and followed it around the country. We talk about the good and bad side of smart cities, the growing trends around data in urban legibility and we explore some significant flaws in the recycling industry for solving the waste problem.
Dietmar has recently authored a book called "Waste is Information" published by MIT Press and is a consummate intellectual force in the urban data, design, and in particular the complex story behind all the stuff we throw away. Dietmar Offenhuber is an Assistant Professor at Northeastern University in the departments of Art + Design and Public Policy. See more of his work here http://offenhuber.net/
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