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Lou and Sue Chadwick of Second Chance Farm in Greenfield Massachusetts are what I consider the "Apple Pied Pipers". For nearly as long as CiderDays (the oldest cider event in the US) has been running I have seen the Chadwicks touting the bounty of apple varieties. This means they have dozen of fresh picked apples on a long table, that they set up outside no less in early November and welcome everyone to stop by  to take a look and try a taste of a Razor Russet, Baldwin or Arkansas Black. If you get a chance to attend CiderDays make sure you say hi to this lovely couple. In this week's chat I recorded a walkabout with the Chadwick's at their Second Chance farm where for the past 12 years they have been nursing small apple varieties and grafting an assortment of rare cider apples ( at least rare right now in 2017 for the US). Lou made a Rind Graft, a V Graft and an Omega Graft. Take a look at the Cider Chat YouTube channel to see Lou in action. See the photos of this chat via ciderchat.com post link here The Chadwicks have been orchardists long before Second Chance Farm. Sue's grandfather has a farm with apple trees in Buckland Massachusetts that they still advise and help the current owners. Before the walk in the orchard I delve into the winemaking technique known as Bâtonnage. Bâtonnage defined is simply stirring the lees periodically. This technique can be used in cidermaking and is done after the initial vigorous fermentation is complete. The lees is brown slurry that settles to the bottom of carboy, stainless steel tanks or barrels. It is comprised of dead yeast cells and heavy particles that were initially floating in the solution. There are two different types of lees Gross Lees - the first drop of heavy precipitants that float to the bottom. Fine Lees - the slurry that can form on the bottom of your carboy after the first racking. If you leave the lees on the bottom of your cidermaking vessels there is a risk of the lees consuming all the oxygen and causing hydrogen sulfide to form as the cider goes through the process of reduction. (Yes, lees consumes oxygen). The result can leave an off smell such as rotten eggs. Contact info for Second Chance Farm luandsu9@comcast.net Ask for the following 6 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat

Alan Shapiro wasn't looking to get involved in cider, being a craft beer enthusiast, one sip at the right time changed his mind and he isn’t looking back. He is founder of the widely popular Cider Summits that takes place currently in 4 major US cities (with a 5th city expected to come on board soon). His roots in libations began taking stock while working as one of the first sales representative for Pete’s Brewing Company ( does Pete's Wicked Ale sound familar?) which helped him cultivate a relationship with Mark Browner, whom he credits with planting the seed for today's Cider Summits. In 2003 he founded SBS Imports and secured the rights to import Aspall Cyder of Suffolk, England . He says after a visit to this legendary cidery in Suffolk,  “I had what I call a ‘Wow Moment’ when I realized that cider has more to offer than what I had expected. In 2012 Artisanal Imports of Austin acquired SBS Imports. The first Summit had already taken place two years earlier in 2010. From the start that first Summit was a hit. Alan says he scrambled to get 40 cider products and wasn’t sure what to exactly to expect for crowd size, but when nearly 500 people showed up, it was an obvious success. Since, the locations where this cider festival takes place has expanded to locations in Portland, Chicago and San Francisco. This chat covers the beginnings of Alan's journey to founding Cider Summit, what to expect at the Summit and his take on the current cider market. What to expect at a Cider Summit Souvenair glass  for 4 ounce pours Tasting Tokens Usually 100-150 ciders available from 50 cider companies more or less There is a guide that is published a few days before How to attend a Cider Summit? Have a strategy Download the Summit guide that is published a few days before the event. Each festival has a local/regional focus. Go for local ciders. Or specific styles, such as Asturias ciders or French, fruit ciders, hopped ciders. Additional tokens are available for $2/token There is also a VIP ticket too, where attendees can have conversations with the cidermakers attending. There is a bottle to go shop at all the Summits except for Chicago. Cider Summits locations and dates for 2017 All Summits are outdoors events, except for Chicago’s Chicago  Saturday February 11th at the Navy Pier San Francisco Saturday April 22nd at the Presidio Portland   Friday & Saturday, June 16-17 at Fields Neighborhood Park Seattle  Friday & Saturday, Sept 8-9 at South Lake Union Discovery Center Lawn Contact for Alan Shapiro and Cider Summit email: CiderSummit@earthlink.net Twitter: @cidersummit Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cidersummit/?ref=br_rs Mentions in this chat De Vergeten Appel a Netherlands cidery in Tilburg Neilsen webinar recording Cider Trends in the US and abroad and download the pdf file that goes along with this recording here Use code LyftCiderChat for Up to $50 off your first ride with the Lyft rideshare program. Find the details on this code offering and how to use via this link Ask for the following 6 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen o Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat  

Nicole and Rafe Ward of Forgotten Ciders are celebrating 3 years of cidermaking this April of 2017.  This Michigan cidery has over 1000 variety of apples growing on 16 acres, many of which are cider varieties and red fleshed to boot! Rafe's Grandfather Douglas Eastman and Uncle John Eastman started planting apples trees 30 years ago to what would one day become Eastman Antique Apples.  Eight years ago Rafe, his parents and brother bought the apple orchard. After getting involved in the family's orchard, Rafe Ward began making cider in their basement and then realized that the fruit could be transformed in to liquid gold. Rafe says, "It was a happy day when I realized I own an orchard and I could make alcohol out of them apples." Nicole mentions, "It was good fortune that the family didn't pull up the apple trees thinking that because they didn't taste good they weren't worth growing." Forgotten Ciders are made out of a 100% fresh pressed apple juice. Aside from adding yeast, there is no back sweetening or sugar added up front. The brilliant shades of red that are visible in their bottles of Mad Russian, Hot N Cider and others is derived straight from the apple varieties that they are using. Ah Ha Moments for the Wards 1. Licensing 2. Making the cider - but they "Let the apples do the work" Cidery Overview 16 acres with over 1000 varieties They pick the apples themselves with some help Use stainless steel tanks and ICBs (plastic containers) Press using an 18 inch rack and cloth press. They press throughout the season, with the season going through mid November. Ciders Mentioned in this chat all in 750 ml bottles except for the Hopped Cider 1.Mad Russian - 6.9% early season cider Flagship cider Deep cranberry color, using red flesh apples Giant Russian Crab apples Taste, aggressively dry and tart up front and then mellows and sweetens as you drink it. 2. Private Stash - 6.9% has over 150 varieties blended to make this cider. 3. Hot N Cider 6.9% made with a base cider and local peppers. A very smooth easy drinking cider, with just the right amount of hot to make your palate ask for more cider. Pairs perfectly with cheese plate. 4. Rusty Red made with Russet apples that Nicole describes having a skin much akin to potato or pear as opposed to being shiny and glossy like a Red Delicious apple. They blend their Russets with some of their "Red Flesh" apples. 5. Hopped Cider - 6.9% base cider with dry hops. Well balanced citrus notes of the hops with a very tasty cider base. Find Forgotten Ciders Visit the Forgotten Ciders Tasting Room  opening this year on April 29th! Usually only open only on Saturdays from 2-7 once the season begins Look to the website for special events open from summer to November. Farmer's Markets Midlands Area Farmers Market May through October on Wednesdays from 2-7 pm Downtown Saginaw Farmer's Market on Mondays from 1-6 pm Getting to Forgotten Ciders 2 hour drive from Detroit 4.5 hour drive from Chicago Mini Tips mentioned for ciders in this chat Tips for Planting an orchard Place same varieties together Plant is succession to ripening dates Tips for making Labels 99 Design Shutterstock Contact Forgotten Ciders and Eastman Antique Apples Owners: Nicole and Rafe Ward Address: 1068 W Midland-Gratiot County Line Rd, Wheeler, MI 48662 Phone: (989) 842-5576 email: forgottenciders@gmail.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EastmansForgottenCiders/ Ask for the following 6 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode with photos and all episodes at the Cider Chat's podcasts page. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat  

Shea Comfort began dabbling in home brewing in 1996. This History of Art and Philosophy major didn’t choose to become a Yeast Whisper. Some names can’t be chosen, they just come along. Having read extensively the books of the day he is, suffice to say, a self taught technical  yeast expert. “You realize you have to get some type of competency in science…basic formulas, concepts, ideas and just get use to it [the language of science].” But, “You can be really good with science and the numbers and still make average wine.” In 2011, Shea began focusing on cider. “You need tools to do the job.” Shea began with trials with yeast, oaks, tannins. Around 7-8 years ago (2010) after stepping away from a winery startup, Shea was looking for a job. It was during this time, that friends began calling him a “Yeast Whisper”. The name stuck and it was then that he began working with Lallemand, a manufacturer of yeast. “If you want to get competent on this and learn more and go deeper about this you have to have an understanding of the science.” What is a glaring problem for cider makers? When makers say, “We are a cider, we are not beer, we are not wine we are a cider. Look at cider as wine.” All the wine making approaches of winemaking makes perfect sense for cider. Shea says to make sure to understand acidity, balance and structure, skin fractions, perfumes, and mineralogy. Know how to blend.   Quotes to ponder from Shea: “Understand that you can get amazing complexity even if the cider is dry." “Cider is a wine made with apples.” “Technically Perry is a Pear Cider” Is there a difference between liquid yeast and dry yeast? - No If done well, there should be no difference between a liquid or dry cultured yeast. Shea’s baseline recommendation for a good cider yeast. - Any champagne yeast such as a DV10, EC1118 - Ask, “What white wine yeast would re-enforce apples?” Lalvin DV10 - again has neutral sensory impact. It stays true to your original fruit Lalvin EC118 (Prise de Mousee) neutral esters Produces a lot of SO2 (up to 30 ppm) and can inhibit malolactic fermentation Yeast Manufacturers 1. Lallemand yeast 2. Scott’s Laboratories 3. Wyeast Shea’s tips for managing a cider so that it doesn’t go completely dry Cold crash, Use Sulfites Bottle and keep in the fridge Contact Shea Comfort ebsite: http://www.yeastwhisperer.com/ email: shea@yeastwhisperer.com mobile: 925-788-0779        Ask for the following 6 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat    Find the shownotes and photos at this link  

Lost Apples of the Quabbin is a presentation by Al Sax and Matt Kaminsky documenting their 2016 research and quest for mapping out the apple trees in this historical reservoir region. The Quabbin Reservoir was created to supply water to eastern Massachusetts. This construction required moving out the residents and unincorporating 4 towns Dana, Prescott, Enfiled, and Greenwich. Needless to say, this was an extreme hardship for the residents as people, homes and the entire landscape was changed to create the massive reservoir. How big is the Quabbin Reservoir? unlike what I said in the podcast (10,000 acres) it is 120,000 acres Al and Matt are looking for unknown apple varieties that might still be left on the hillsides and mountain tops that were left untouched so many years later. Al and Matt's main research tools" Binoculars Tick gators, as ticks carry an auto immune ideas call Lyme An apple picker, which is a long pole with a cup at the end used to reach for fruit high up on the tree. List of Apples that were grown at the Quabbin Alexander Baldwin* Bellflower Bethel Ben Davis Blue Parmain Canada Red Duchess Fall Pippin Golden Russet* Gravenstein* Grimes Golden Jonathan* McIntosh* Northern Spy* Porter Pound Sweet Red Astrachan Rhode Island Greening St. Lawernce Seek-No-Further (Westfield S-N-F?) Sheep-Nose* Smoke House Snow Apple Spitzenburg* Strawberry Summer Rambo Tetofsky Twenty-ounce Tolman Sweet Tompkins King Wagner Wealthy* Winesap* Winter Banana Wolf River* Yellow Transparent York Imperial Identifying apple trees in the wild What is its form? Leaf pattern Leaf color Trunk ( do you see a graft line) Identifying apples in the wild Color of skin Taste Refractometer for testing the level of sugar in the juice - check out Matt's Book via his website https://gnarlypippins.com/2016/11/16/what-is-gnarly-pippins/ Contact info for our Apple Explorers Al Sax and Matt Kaminsky Al Sax Matt Kaminsky Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat

Jeppe Gents opened Fejø Cider in 1999. He calls himself a "cider farmer" having founded his cidery on an island 200 kilometers south of Copenhagen. You can take a 15-minute ride on a ferry to the island and visit this celebrated cidery. Fejø is an orchard based cidery with 18 hectares or approximately 44 acres of bitter, bittersweet, culinary apples. With nearly 20 years of cidermaking knowledge Fejø cidery is established well enough that it is now Jeppe's full time work. The cidery has won numerous awards and is currently exporting  60% of its products to such markets as Sweden, Germany, and now the US via the Shelton Brothers Importers. The first two pallets of cider were shipped to the Shelton Brothers in November 2016. They were ordered for Claus Meyer, the Danish gastro-entrepreneur. Meyer opened the Agern restaurant plus The Great Northern Food Hall in New York Grand Central Terminal. The Agern restaurant has got its first Michelin star now only one year after its opening, and the Food Hall has 3500 daily customers. Currently, Fejø Cider is producing 30,000 bottles of cider per year. Only cider apples grown at the orchard are used. Jeppe uses only the natural yeast and does not chaptalize his ciders. Expect a bottle conditioned cider with soft delicate bubbles that waft up from the bottom of the glass with a rich apple aroma. The apples are collected by hand, stored for two weeks and they use a blend of 30% bitter 30% bittersweet 30% sweet 10% acid He attributes the low nutrient juice from his apples to providing a slow fermentation and offering the sweet profile of his ciders. Interested in an Apprenticeship at Fejø Cider? Contact Jeppe below as he takes apprentices from the 1st of September to the 1 of December every year. Contact info for Fejø Cider Address: Nivå Stationsvej 5, DK-2990 NivåPlantager  & Produktion:Slettervej 44, DK-4944 Fejø email: info@Fejøecider.dk Telephone: +45 6167 5622 Website: http://Fejøecider.dk/ Ask for the following 6 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Go to this page to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat

Mattie Beason’s passion for cider led him to open Black Twig Cider House in 2016. This new cider bar is located in Durham, North Carolina right across the street from Duke University. A good location is a key factor as you need the foot traffic to help build the draw that you need to be successful. Mattie should know, as he had just finished presenting Why you should open a cider bar and not a cidery at CiderCon 2017 in Chicago. In this chat we discuss the offerings at Black Twig Cider House, a txotx (pronounced “Chotch”) which is a pour of Sidra from a barrel and some fine tips for anyone considering opening their own cider bar. From Spanish ciders to all cider traditions - Mattie found it was the right choice to open a cider bar and not cidery. Black Twig is 2400 square feet and has seating for up 90 people. Make sure to look at the event page on their website as there are lots of ongoing educational and fun events taking place every month. Or consider reserving this venue for your own special party as there is nothing more fun than enjoying some Sidra poured directly from the barrel. What to expect at Black Twig? 6 taps for cider, 3 taps for beer, along with a grand selection of bottles from France, Spain, and Britain. What is one of the biggest considerations in running a cider bar? “Not alienating potential cider drinkers.” or as Mattie says, “Don’t fail your market. If some people prefer a sweet cider from concentrate, have one on hand. If I can’t get you there, and that is what you want to be drinking? Then I have failed you.” As such even a mini chat with Mattie not only leave you feeling successful, but ready to try your next cider or two. Contact for Black Twig Cider House and Mattie Beason Address: 2812 Erwin Rd, Suite 104 Durham, North Carolina Telephone: (919) 321-0203 Website: http://www.blacktwigciderhouse.com/ Twitter: @BlackTwigDurham Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/blacktwigciderhouse/ Follow Mattie Beason on Twitter @mattiebeason Go to this page to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos _____________________ Mentions in this chat Featured Artist: Emma Ayres Song: Riverside Find out about Emma’s music via the links below https://emmajunemusic.bandcamp.com/ https://www.facebook.com/emmajuneband John Bunker episode 16 and John Bunker Apple Identification episode 28 Ask for the following 6 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat  

Araújo Monte, Lda is Portugal's first commercial cidery for the country that borders Spain and its million of Sidra drinking fans. Marlene Sofia Sousa Araújo whom I speak to in this chat, with the help of Anzu Fernandez as translator, was trained to be a scientist. When she and Patrícia Araújo Monte entered into a contest for entrepreneurs and decided to look at making cider as part of this project, they had no idea that they would win. With the winnings they received basic infrastructure to help launch the cidery along with help for specialist such as enologist (winemakers). Today the cidery has three partners, Marlene,  Patrícia and Pedro Miguel Bravo de Faria Marlene has been making cider since 2011. She received her degree in Biotechnology at Instituto Politécnico de Viana do Castelo [IPVC] thinking she was headed for a career in science. So suffice to say, she didn't plan on becoming a cidermaker. Araújo Monte, Lda is a costal cidery. They are currently using all sorts of apples and are trying to distinguish which ones create the correct blend. Currently the main apples used are culinary or table apples. They cidery uses steel tanks. With winemaking so prominent in Portugal they use wine yeast. The first cider they made is called Corrupia 6.0% alcoho by volume Since I spoke to Marlene they now have a new cider on the market called "Cider Sparkling Corrupia" (7.0%) Who are the cider drinkers in Portugal? That remains to be seen who will be the cider drinkers in Portugal. Right now they are looking to the drinkers who look outside of the box. Attending the International Hall of Gala Ciders was one of the key reasons why Marlene and Patrícia traveled to Asturias so that they could get a better understanding of the market worldwide. The Portuguese wine cultural is dominant and Araújo Monte has a big task ahead of them to win over their country's thirst. Who governs cider in Portugal? It falls under the wine label…sort of. Right now it looks like "Araújo Monte really doesn't have any limitations because they are setting the standard in Portugal for cider." There are no limitation on the alcohol level because it is the first cidery in Portugal. Contact info for Araújo Monte Address:  Old Cooperative of Estorãos Place of Tenães Nº 5 4990-590 Estorãos -bridge From Lima Telephone +351924404831. Where can their cider be found, besides going to Araújo Monte. Shops in Lisbon Porto Bridge from Lima Viana do Castelo. Follow this cidery on the Facebook page for Sidra Minho Ask for the following 6 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 Ethic Ciders - California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Go to this page to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat    

This week's cider podcast episode is a mini recap of Chicago Cider Week events, CiderCon, and 20 chats w/Cider Enthusiasts including recordings from the The Northman on February 7, 2017. 20 chats! Dang that was amazing. I hope you enjoy going deep into Ciderville like I do. Go to this page to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos Ask for the following 6 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project - California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56   Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat    

Cider Chat will be at the Chicago Cider Summit February 11, 2017 Llorenç Frigola of Mooma cidery, in the Catalonia province of Girona is an Agricultural Engineer by trade who works with a fruit cooperative that has been growing apples for the past 50 years. The cidery started in 2013. This area of Spain, unlike Asturias, the Basque region, or Cantabria has had no production of cider at all. Mooma looked to providing a value added product to their market. Their goal is to meet the local market that leans towards Champagne and Cava wine (a Catalonia wine made in the champenoise traditional method). Mooma, stores apples and presses throughout the year. The cider is fermented then micro filtered and the flagship cider and some sugar is added. It is bottled in both 12 ounce bottles and boxed cider as one would find in the UK. Mooma grew out of the desire to provide value added product to the cooperative's current offerings as Llorenç says, "Our goal is to show to the Cantalan people all that is possible with apples" What kind of apples does Mooma use? Gala Golden Red Delicious Granny Smith Fuji Pink Lady Where did Llorenç learn cidermaking? Traveling about to cider destinations. AND Reading books on cider Claude Joceleur The New Cider Maker Handbook Annie Proulx and Lew Nichols - Cider Who drinks cider in Catalonia? Young people Mooma ciders are in the range of 5.5% to 6% Catalonia market expanding and experimenting Planting 30 varieties from France, Asturias, West County and Italy Investing in genetics for cider production. Traveling to Catalonia? The biggest local airport is Barcelona The Girona airport is a 100 kilometers to Mooma Contacting Mooma Cider website: http://mooma.cat/ Twitter: @moomacider Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/moomacider/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=mooma The actual location if you Google it is Unnamed Road 17256, Fontanilles, Province of Girona, Spain or from the website: Mas Saulot, s/n Palau Sator 17256 Telephone: +34 972 75 56 89  Mentions in this Chat! CiderCon February 8th through 10th, 2017 Ask for the following #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project - California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Go to this page to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos and videos Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat