Cider Chat

In Part 1 of "Cider Ignites NYC" we chat with New York Cidermakers and enthusiasts who are attending Hidden Stars, a cider fest held during NYC Cider Week 2017. First up is Kyle Sherrer of Graft Cider in Newburgh New York known for making wild ferment “sour” ciders (that Sidra lovers adore) more accessible to fans of cider - read: packaging in cans. Congratulations to Graft Cider for celebrating a 1 year anniversary on October 31, 2017. Next we chat with Dylan who was pouring for Naked Flock Hard Cider Experience Dylan shares the fun, background story behind the naked goose on the label and an upcoming event! Danielle von Scheiner, who was on Cider Chat episode 35, is the cidermaker and owner of Big Apple Hard Cider. Danielle shares with us how she is sending all the proceeds from her “Soho Cider” to Gods Love We Deliver a New York non profit with the mission of improving “the health and well-being of men, women and children living with HIV/AIDS, cancer and other serious illnesses by alleviating hunger and malnutrition. They prepare and deliver nutritious, high-quality meals to people who, because of their illness, are unable to provide or prepare meals for themselves. We also provide illness-specific nutrition education and counseling to our clients, families, care providers and other service organizations.” Find Big Apple Hard Cider at The Ear Inn, NYC oldest continuously pub since 1817. Then we get a to hear from Cider Enthusiasts attending Hidden Stars as they let us know about their cider drinking history and what exactly they would like to learn more about cider. Mentions is this Chat LA Amateur Wine Competition - http://cellarmastersla.org/ and the rules and info are all right on the homepage.  The deadline says 11/11/17, but that will be extended as it gets closer. You can pay online or send a check with your entries.  Let your cider club know as well! 2nd Annual Cider Meet Up kicks off CiderDays - November 3, 2017, 6-8 pm at The Root Cellar in Greenfield, MA Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat  

"The Nose" is back helping Ria sort through the past year and celebrate this 100th episode of Cider Chat! We delve into wild yeast, terroir, and hear a bit from every single guest on the past 50 episodes of Cider Chat. To listen to episodes 1-50 go to this page. Listen to episodes 51-100 go to this page. Raise a glass and celebrate the first 100 episode of cidercentric audio with chats with makers, enthusiast, and folks in the cider trade around the world. Mentions in this Chat Colin Scott of episode 93 will be selling cider apple trees in a bucket. $20 at CiderDays place your order now!  cscott9487@gmail.com  Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat  

Vincent Godefroy is one smart cidermaker located in Normandy France. He saw the opportunity to entice tourist visiting the nearby famous white cliffs of Ètretat to his cidery. Vincent and Marie-Clarie Godefroy have a full service cider destination offering lodging for two adults in a wooden barrel see photos at ciderchat.com The Godefroy's welcome over 5000 visitors each year to an area that is dominated by flax and rye farms. They produce over 50,000 bottles of cider each year, selling half of those bottles at their gift shop and the other half within a 30 kilometer radius of their cidery. What to pair with Vincent's ciders? The blue label is an extra dry and is best served with seafood The semi dry goes well with the local cheese Neufchâtel Contact info for Ecomusee de la Pomme et du Cidre Owners and Makers: Vincent et Marie-Claire Godefroy website: http://www.ecomuseeducidre.fr/ email: info@ecomuseeducidre.fr telephone: address: 1315 route de Goderville 76110 BRETTEVILLE DU GRAND Mentions in the Chat Ned Lawton of Ethic Ciders updates us on the California fires happening this October in the Sonoma and Napa regions of the state. Ethic Ciders has been sending supporters to North Bay Just & Resilient Fund. ( link provided here) https://squareup.com/store/caff-dot-org Battonage: Stirring in the lees is a technique used to keep the lees in solution helping to gobble up oxygen and providing a broader mouthfeel. New York City Cider Week Oct 20 -29 CiderDays, Franklin County Massachusetts November 3rd, 4th & 5th Go to the Cider Meetup at the Root Cellar on Friday night November 3rd 6-8pm. Bring a bottle of cider to share, $5 corking fee applies. Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat Haven't downloaded this chat yet? Here is is again.

The Louis Dupont Family Estate is a 70 acre (30 hectares) orchard that was bought by selling the family's stock of calvados. In this chat I speak with Jérome Dupont the great grandson of Jules Dupont who bought Domaine Dupont with the family's calvados in 1887. Jérome and his father Etienne Dupont and his sister Anne-Pamy Dupont now run the estate. Domaine Dupont is on the Route du Cidre in the region of Normandy called Pays d'Auge. We chat on the growing cider culture in the US and France and working with wild yeast. The head cidermaker's at Domaine Dupont is Arnaud Ramsayer. Jérome works with his father distilling the cidre to make calvados. Pommeau is a blend of fresh pressed apple juice and calvados. Contact info for Domaine Dupont address: 14430 Victot-Pontfol, France website:https://www.calvados-dupont.com/en/dupont-estate.htm telephone: +33 (0)231.632.424 email: info@calvadosdupont.com Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat

In this chat I take you along on my travels a.k.a reconnaissance for a future travel tourist trips to Normandy. This main chat begins at 12:30 minutes Before I headed to France I first made a stop in the Netherlands, specifically Amsterdam and the well love park called Vondelpark. Cider Travel Tip: Nearby Amsterdam Centraal Train station is a great bike rental shop called Star Bikes. While on the bike I found my first Medlar tree laden with fruit.   The next day I flew to Paris, rented a car, and drove out to Normandy in search of the perfect cider loop to bring a group of cider tourists. I headed to Honfleur and met with Agathe Letelliet of episode 49. I then head north to see both Etretrat and Vincent who is the farmer and maker at Ecomusee de la Pomme et du Cidre The next day it was onto meet Jerome Dupont of the Domaine Dupont  The area surrounding Domaine Dupont is dotted with cideries everywhere. You can spend hours roaming around in search of the perfect glass or find yourself wanting for a rest at a cafe to enjoy the French country air. I however was on the quest for cider or as it is written in French cidre (sedar). I made one more stop to meet with Stéphane et Lucile Grandval – Manoir de Grandouet before heading onto to the Domfront region of Normandy where pears are celebrated like no where else in the world. Thursday was spent meeting with Phillipe who along with his wife open their farm to a festival of art called The Appel au Bois Normand - this is not an apple fest, but it sure is one heck of a festival. Having stayed with my new friend Michel Dargent who owns the Airbnb that I stayed in while touring the Domfront region of Normandy,  I learned of a local cidermaker whose Poire knock my socks off! I will speak about Roland as I roll out these episodes from France. My last night in Normandy was spent having dinner with Eric Bordelet. We discussed the world affairs of cider as we drank a bottle of 2008  and 2014 Argellete, along with a bottle of red wine. To contrast the wine with the cider helped me understand and appreciate what Eric offers as a maker. His ciders are about terroir and that means the earth. When he walks in his orchards he looks to the ground and picks up the local stone - You can taste the earth in his cider. Yes they are dry, but they also yield the taste of stone or minerality that you feel on your teeth and in your mouth....imagine being in a rock quarry and having the stone dust coat your mouth. Bordelet ciders are dry and wet at the same time and of course delicious. Next year in 2018, I will be offering to two trip to 20 people to come with me to the UK and then on to Normandy. Many of the people mentioned in this chat will be part of the Normandy tour, including Eric who will provide a seminar on how to taste cider. Patrons of Cider Chat will be the first ones to be offered to come on the trip. If you would like to become a patron and help support this chat go to this link. Next I will put out a mailing on the eCiderNews - you can subscribe via this link. Suffice to say, it was a memorable experience in Normandy and the Netherlands - and I can't wait to return. Perhaps with you? Mentions in this chat What's up with CiderDays this year? The origins of the term "Hard Cider" at 6:43 minutes Winemakers Recipe Book, Raymond Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat

This episode of Cider Chat was recorded by Alex Kroh, cidermaker, roving podcast reporter and super, duper nice guy in Ciderville! This chat begins with Alex and Melissa and Garett venturing outside to the orchard and the asparagus polyculture planting just south of the cider house. They then walk east down the hill to the new dwarf orchard and talk about the differences between the two planting styles. In the second half of this chat, Alex and Garrett are in the production space below the tasting room and get into the weeds talking cidermaking technique.  traditional method (champagne method) encapsulated yeast vs. loose yeast tank carbonation making sweet reserve fermentation tanks yeast combinations and the ciders on offer in the tasting room. Alex writes, "When I visited the Finger Lakes Cider House in July of 2017, I was completely taken with the vibe of Good Life Farm, which is the on-going vision of Garrett Miller and Melissa Madden. More than just an orchard and more than just a cider house, Good Life Farm is a diverse ecological farm that was designed to do the most good for the land and the community that surrounds it. Central to their management philosophy are permaculture design principles, a system for managing the human impact on the planet by working with nature instead of against it. The difference between a “conventional” farm and one that incorporates permaculture design principles was immediately apparent to this midwesterner who is used to driving by the country miles of soy and corn. By contrast, Good Life Farm feels like stepping back in time before the Green Revolution transformed the agricultural landscapes of the United States into a patchwork quilt of monocrops with “high tech” petrochemical farming. Instead, Good Life Farm has picturesque orchards interplanted with asparagus, high-tunnel greenhouses downhill from the beautiful ciderhouse, apple trees grown along the contours of the hill, with vegetable rows, ponds and cow pastures interspersed. The methods used at Good Life Farm are decidedly low-tech. They use draft horses to accomplish many of the tasks that a tractor would normally do today. Other animals, such as turkeys, geese and beef cows, help with various tasks like insect control and soil fertilization." So what does this mean for their cider? Garrett and Melissa believe that by managing the land in this way they can grow apples that are more flavorful than apples grown under other management systems and will translate into better cider. Another component of their farm that contributes to their cidermaking paradigm is their tasting room. The Finger Lakes Cider House showcases their house ciders, Kite and String (previously Good Life Cider), and three other nearby cidermakers including Black Diamond Cider, Eve’s Cidery, and Redbyrd Orchard Cider. Melissa comments that because these other three cidermakers are tending toward the drier end of the sweetness palate, Garrett and brother/cidermaker Jimmy have created a number of semi-sweet, medium sweet and sweet ciders in addition to their dry ciders to appeal to drop-in traffic from patrons on the Finger Lakes wine trail. This range of cider style varieties gives them the opportunity to experiment with ciders that span the sweetness palate as well as develop some interesting cider styles that you likely won’t find anywhere else, such as a young cider, a royal cider, and a Rosé cider consisting of fermented apple juice and unfermented Riesling and Marachal Foch red wine.  Below you’ll find the map that Melissa and I are standing in front of at the beginning of the chat while we discuss permaculture management zones.  Contact Fingers Lakes Cider House  website: http://www.fingerlakesciderhouse.com/ telephone:  607-351-3313  email: melissa@fingerlakesciderhouse.com Good Life Farm website: http://www.thegoodlifefarm.org/ Mentions in this chat: Permaculture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture https://permacultureprinciples.com/ Other cideries at the Finger Lakes Cider House:  Black Diamond Cider: https://www.blackdiamondcider.com/ Eve’s Cidery: https://www.evescidery.com/ Redbyrd Orchard Cider: https://redbyrdorchardcider.com/  Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat

Making a 1-gallon batch of cider is easy! And a 3-gallon or 5-gallon batch of cider is just as easy to make too! Learn how to make cider at home and begin upping your cider knowledge today. In this episode I cover all the basics on how to make cider at home. Below find the basic equipment needs for making cider. Hint: Do get these items before getting your fresh pressed apple juice to ferment. Real basic cidermaking - 1 gallon jug Equipment needed: 1 gallon jug that came with your cider Rubber stopper with a hole big enough to fit an airlock airlock - S-shaped or go deluxe and put the cider in a glass jar Making a 3-gallon or 5-gallon batch of cider What to consider before you get your juice How much money do you want to spend and how much cider do you want to make? Consider: 3 gallon = approximately 22 pounds filled calculated as 7 pounds per liquid gallon + 1 pound for glass carboy 5 gallon = approximately 37 pounds filled I like 3 gallon carboys because they are easier to lift Equipment needed for either a 3-gallon or 5-gallon batch of cider A. Two Carboys - always choose glass over plastic B. Rubber stopper with hole in center, that fits in your glass carboy C. One Airlock use either an S-shaped or 3 piece fermentor The airlock release CO2 as the cider is fermenting and prevents Oxygen from entering. D. Yeast You can spend hours googling which yeast to use - For your first batch of cider keep it simple Tried and true yeasts. Each come in a packet and are dry yeast with approximately 5 grams. Lavlin 71B, nice all-round yeast that helps to mellow the sharpness of high acid apple blends. M2 Lavlin - this yeast makes apples sing in delight as it enhances their character. Might even get a richer mouthfeel. Extra bonus - a finish that suggests residual sugar, even though it is fermented dry! Cider House Blend English Cider Yeast E. Clear food grade tubing (1/2inch diameter) to rack cider once fermentation is done F. Campden Tablets (Sodium metabisulfite) - Used to arrest the yeast that in currently active in the juice, so that your cultured yeast can go to town once it is pitched. 1 tablet per gallon. Add to fresh juice and let sit overnight G. Fresh pressed unpasteurized apple juice Cider Blends are best! Why not use pasteurized juice? It usually contains sorbet, sorbic acid, benzoate or benzoic acid which not only affects the taste, but can affect fermentation. Extra Yeast Tips Refrigerate both liquid yeast and dry yeast packets. Each contain millions of yeast cells and you don't want them to dry out or over heat Making a yeast starter solution - a.k.a. double your yeast money by doubling the yeast By making a yeast starter you Increases yeast population before pitching Revs up the fermentation Make sure you are "pitching" yeast that is viable and healthy 1. Use a clean sanitized glass bottle, such as 750 ml wine bottle and have an extra rubber stopper and airlock. 2. Pour in: 1 cup of fresh pressed juice heated for 5 minutes Let it cool to the point that if you stuck your finger into the solution it would not burn your finger. or 1/2 cup of fresh pressed juice that has been sulfited overnight, so you know the yeast are no longer viable in that juice. 3. Put the stopper on, with airlock and let the yeast go to town. Figure 2-days and now you have enough yeast for 10 gallons instead of 5. Can you keep doubling the yeast starter? - Yes, you can! Do the same process as before to triple the amount Mentions in this Chat Nathan Pierce's Micro Brewr podcast Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat

Ramborn Cider Company located in Luxembourg is helping to revive the cidermaking tradition  as the country's first commercial cidery.  Ramborn offers a range cider styles from Farmhouse,  Somerset Blend (Luxembourg and English cider apples) and a New World hopped cider. Ramborn has an eau de vie which is a apple brandy produced by means of fermentation and double distillation. In this chat I speak with Adie Kaye and discuss his upcoming trip to the Seattle Cider Summit on September 8 & 9, 2017. Make sure to say "Hi" to Adie if you see him at the Summit and tell him that you heard him speak on Cider Chat! Ramborn is available in Luxembourg and in the state of Wisconsin in the US. Cider Vocabulary: Luxembourg word for cider is "viez" - comes from Latin word for second wine "viez vinum" Contact Ramborn Cider Company website: https://ramborn.com/en/ address: 23 Duerfstrooss, 6660 Bur, Luxembourg telephone: +352 26 72 92 04 Mentions in this chat: 075: Alan Shapiro | Cider Summit USA Wouter Bilj - CiderCider - the Netherlands first cider store. Listen to Wouter's on the Netherlands cider scene  ciderGoingUP Campaign for commercial cidermakers and folks in the cider trade Washington Cider week September 7-17, 2017 Cider Writers: Gabe Cook - @ciderologist Andy May @cidersleuth Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat

Colin Scott grew up learning how to care for apples on his parents, Edward and Janice, orchard. The orchard was purchased in 1954. Today Colin is running the orchard and sells his apples at the Chelsea Market in eastern MA. E & J Scott Orchard also has apricots, blackberries, blueberries, cherries, grapes, nectarines, peaches, pears, plums, quince, raspberries, & strawberries. They have farm stands in Buckland and Goshen during the season. Their main store is in Ashfield, MA and is open Sat & Sun 10-6 July through May. Organic duck eggs from their heritage breed Ancona ducks are also available upon request. We begin this chat with Colin inside one of the storage rooms. What affects the Apple's ripping? temperature ethylene gas - apples off gas Apples are placed in a CA room (Controlled Atmosphere) where both temperature, oxygen and the off gases are controlled. If apples don't have oxygen they don't ripen. Colin and I discuss the "delicate" process of storing apples or what he called "putting them to sleep". Apple storage tip: Take your apples out of the refrigerator every once in a while and let them off gas. That will help them last a bit longer. Next in this chat we talk about the beginnings of the orchard and what they grew and where they are going with the growing cider market Root Stock for grafting a tree - dwarf or standard Shifting his market to cider apples What do you look for in a root stock "The idea behind grafting is to take the variety that you want and put it on the root stock you want. The vigor of the variety contributes to the size of the tree." The numbering system of the root stock defines the size of the tree or a percentage of the size of the tree M rootstock 9, 11, 18, 26 what does that stand for? If you put a Macintosh on standard tree rootstock and a Macintosh on a 26, you would get 30 -40-% of the standard one. A M118 or M111 are going to be 6--70% the size, which means they will be almost as big as a standard tree. Today Colin is using Geneva root stock, because he is finding it resistant to Fire Blight. A nasty disease that can kill the tree. Geneva root stock numbering system is random too. Colin is using Geneva 41 & 935. They will be 30-40% of the standard tree. He uses a bench graft on his root stock. The secret to grafting per Colin Lining up the cambium layers Getting it airtight We also chat pruning an apple tree, especially a tree that you are attempting to revive after years of neglect. Contact E & J Scott Orchard email: mailto:cscott9487@gmail.com web: http://www.farmfresh.org/food/farm.php?farm=3762 Mentions in this chat Smart Freshing Oesco, Inc - professional grade supplies for orchards and cidermakers. link to the bladder press sold by Oesco http://www.oescoinc.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=bladder+press 076: Lou and Sue Chadwick | Grafting with Second Chance Farm, MA 086: Cider Press | Make Cider Ask for the following 8 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes with show notes and photos at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat

Swilled Dog Hard Cider is a family owned cidery located in the Shenandoah Valley of West Virginia. Swilled Dog launched in January 2017, and and began selling its wares in March. This is the 2nd cider company to launch in the past five years in West Virginia, the first being Hawk Nob Appalachian Hard Cider & Mead. Currently there is not Tasting Room at the cidery, but that shouldn't deter you from visiting the area, which borders Virginia and a plethora of ciders. Swill Dog is approximately 3 hours from Baltimore Maryland and 2 hours from the District of Columbia. Why try Swill Dog? This new startup sent four of their ciders to  the Great Lakes International Cider & Perry competition and each cider received a medal. Current list of their Ciders Bunny Slope - hopped cider "Our Bunny Slope 6.0% Carmel Apple - semi-sweet cider 6.0% Walk the Dog - semi dry cider 6.0% Seasonal Ciders Island Vibe -  pineapple  apple cider 6.0% WV Scrumpy - made with locally foraged apples 6.9% Apple Bottom 6.5% Granny Gold 6.0% Coming Soon: Pumpkin Patch Says Brad Glover of Swill Dog Hard Cider, "We want to make cider that is approachable to everybody, the more palates you can hit with your cider, the better off we will all be as people get interested in your cider. And they will ask what else do you have." Contact: Swilled Dog Hard Cider website: www.swilleddog.com telephone: 304-358-0604 Twitter: @SwilledDog Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/swilleddog/ Mentions in this chat Michelle Sikes is the artist behind the label for Swilled Dog Ask for the following 8 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29 Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60 The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56 Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on twitter @ciderchat