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Apr 6, 2022 • 51min

314: Top of the Mitten | Michigan Cider Terroir

Northern Michigan a.k.a. Top of the Mitten A cider tasting with Left Foot Charley, Tandem Cider and Presque Isle Farm Cider as presented at CiderCon20222. Nicole LeGrand Leibon of LaNose Knows consulting moderated this panel discussion and tasting. (LtoR) Nicole LeGrand Leibon, Dan Stepanski, Dan Young Order of cider from the Mitten Makers The flight as poured during this tasting 1. Earnest - Tandem Cider | Suttons Bay, MI Tandem used cote du blanc yeast and a centrifuge to filter and stop fermentation. 2. Porters Perfection - Left Foot Charley | Traverse City, MI This cidery uses both barrels and stainless steel 3. Crabster - Tandem 4.  Antrium county - left foot Charley 5. Farmhouse cider - Presque Isle Farm | Posen, MI This cidery ferments their ciders with the wild yeast and only pitch yeast if fermentation doesn’t begin 6. Single Varietal Kingston Black, Presque Isle Farm Presque Isle Farm - Kingston Black Brian Ulbrich of Left Foot Charley was not able to attend this workshop. Contact for these Makers Nicole LeGrand Leibon - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-legrand-leibon-91238315a/ Dan Young - Tandem Cider Dion Stepanski - Presque Isle Farm Cider  Brian Ulbrich - Left Foot Charley Mentions in this Chat French Cider Tour | Normandy and Brittany September 18th-24th, 2022 2018 Totally Cider Tour at Domaine Dupont GLINTCAP Michigan Cider Chat episodes 074: Nicole and Rafe Ward | Forgotten Ciders, Michigan 079: Dan Young | Tandem Ciders, Michigan 118: Cider Dinner w/Gitche Gumee Ciderworks| MI 125: Prez. Vander Heide | USACM & Vander Mill 127: West Michigan's Ridge Cider 145: 1 Guy & 6 Girls | Sietsema Cider, MI Support these Sponsors of Cider Chat so they can continue to support this podcast and help you make great cider! Fermentis - Yeast and Fermentation Solutions for Cidermakers Sraml - Food Processing and Cidermaking equipment specialist Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube
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Mar 30, 2022 • 1h 3min

313: Wild Yeast Fermentations | CiderCon 2022

Wild, Clean & Free: Harnessing the Beauty of Wild-Fermenting, Without the Flaws Was presented at CiderCon2022 held in Richmond, Virginia in February. The seminar was moderated by Christine Walter of Bauman's Cider. Three makers shared a taste of their select ciders that are fermented with wild yeast or what is also referred to as ambient yeast. Another term for this type of fermentation is Natural Cider or a Spontaneous Ferment. The three ciders presented during this workshop/tasting   Levi Danielson of RAW Cider presented Koosh Wild Ferment. RAW is based in McMinnville, Oregon. Levi Danielson, RAW Cider Leif Sundström of Sundström Cider presented Sponti 2020. His cidery is based in New York's Hudson Valley. Leif Sundström Soham Bahatt is co owner of the Artifact Cider Project. He presented a 2017 Roxbury Russet Pet Nat. There are two Massachusetts locations: Cambridge and Florence. Soham Bahatt In this Chat (l to r) Christine Walter, Levi Danielson, Leif Sundström and Soham Bahatt   During this session  participants were lead through a tasting of traditional and pet-nat ciders and the unique processes that they use while producing a cleanly fermented sparkling cider. Mentions in this Chat Episode 296 with Christine Walter - Bauman's Cider | Oregon's Destination Farm Cidery  Episode  with Soham Bahatt - Artifact Cityscape | Building a Cidery Part 5 Albemarle Ciderwork episodes 56 Chuck Shelton & 254 Blending Like Maker Like Chef  Chuck Shelton on the Right in a Suit receiving the coveted Virginia Governor Cup for Albemarle Ciderworks 2019 Hewes Crab. Support these Sponsors of Cider Chat so they can continue to support this podcast and help you make great cider! Fermentis - Yeast and Fermentation Solutions for Cidermakers Sraml - Food Processing and Cidermaking equipment specialist Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube
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Mar 23, 2022 • 1h 5min

312: Angels Dressed Like Bears | Michael Phillips 1957-2022

Tribute to Author and Orchardists Michael Phillips I spoke with his long time friend Alan Surprenant of Brook Farm Orchard in Ashfield, Massachusetts on a cool March day a little over two week's after the unexpected passing of Michael Phillips.  The two men met originally at a New England Organic Farmers Association (NOFA) conference that was being held at Hampshire College and they soon became fast friends. It was Alan who first contacted me with the news of Michael's unexpected passing and I knew he'd be perfect to speak about the life of one of America's premier apple writers and teachers. Michael's book placed in tribute to his passing a few days earlier at the 2022 Berkshire Roundtable   Michael died in his orchard in the Lost Nation area of New Hampshire on February 27, 2022. He was in the process of writing his fourth book and building out a Speakeasy where friends could gather to sip cider on his land that he shared with his wife Nancy and where they raised their daughter Grace. I expected to talk a bit more about Michael with Alan, but we kept rolling back to talking about orchard care, a topic that was close to Michael's heart and certainly his life's work. It was fitting because both men held in common the work of helping homeowners and budding orchardist learn the basics of orchard care. For Michael it was his full time work writing books, consulting and presenting on the topic. He was the anchor of the Berkshire Roundtable, which is a yearly meetup of apple growers and more recently cider makers. Alan Surprenant Pay tribute to Michael Phillips by Planting a Tree Michael Phillip's Books The Apple Grower A Guide for the Organic Orchardist (2005 revised edition) The Holistic Orchard Growing Tree Fruits and Berries the Biological Way (2012) Mycorrhizal Planet How Symbiotic Fungi Work with Roots to Support Plant Health and Build Soil Fertility (2017) Contact Info for Michael Phillips Books and Network Website: http://lostnationorchard.com/index.php Link to In Memorian to Michael Phillips http://lostnationorchard.com/memoriam.php Contact for Alan Surprenant Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Brook-Farm-Orchard-1616011222000571 Instagram: @brookfarmorchard Mentions in this Chat Support these Sponsors of Cider Chat so they can continue to support this podcast and help you make great cider! Fermentis - Yeast and Fermentation Solutions for Cidermakers Sraml - Food Processing and Cidermaking equipment specialist Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube
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Mar 16, 2022 • 1h 1min

311: Saving Bears by Making Cider | Farmstead Cider, WY

Farmstead Wyoming's First Commercial Cidery Ian McGregor who cofounded Farmstead Cider with Orion Bellorado holds the title of being both the first commercial cidery in the state of Wyoming and as of this episode published in 2022 remain the sole cidery in the state. These enterprising makers source their apples from residential homes in the area which have an abundance of crab apples that were planted for homeowners. They are currently planting an orchard, but most of the apples today are sourced from homeowners. Ian McGregor enjoying a cider post harvest Saving Nuisance Bears by Making Cider A grant helped to fund their task of removing apples from as many local properties, as possible. The homeowners were happily to have the apples harvested which helped to reduce the number of bear/human conflicts in the area. Farmstead Cider ferments these high-altitude crab apples in a lovely assortment of cider, which by the way are fermented with the wild/ambient yeast. Farmstead Apples The apples are tart, tannic, sweet, and delicious, and they help our ciders stand out. We can credit the bears for their individuality. We now pick apples all over Jackson Hole, assisting in the conservation of animals and apple trees while producing small-batch hard ciders that represent our unique surroundings! Bear 399 Local Bear 399 is a favored grizzly who most recently had 4 cubs and is one of the key bears who specifically encouraged the community to work with Farmstead Cider. What bear loving person wouldn't want to save Bear 399! Grizzly "Bear 399" & her cubs pulling off the choice crab apples[/caption] Wild Ferments with no Sulfites Farmstead ferments all the ciders with only the wild yeast. They found that even with the temps go way down the cider continues to bubble along. Expect low acidity and high brix Made with primarily bittersweet crabs The tannins are pronounced and well balanced Unique Apples Names and Terroir Because most of the apple trees are unidentified the trees and their fruit are given unique names such as Highschool Purple, Rafter Jay or Red Canyon Nan. Since the trees are named after a specific tree in a specific area everyone knows where the harvest will be that day and it designates a specific terroir for that site. Contact for Farmstead Cider Website: https://farmsteadwyo.com/ Order online: https://farmsteadwyo.com/bottle-shop Address: 4125 Pub Place Suite #4 Jackson, WY 83001 Mentions in this Chat Support these Sponsors of Cider Chat so they can continue to support this podcast and help you make great cider! Fermentis - Yeast and Fermentation Solutions for Cidermakers Sraml - Food Processing and Cidermaking equipment specialist Listen via Spotify app the Future of Agriculture podcast with Cider Chat patron Tim Hammerich Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube
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Mar 9, 2022 • 53min

310: D.O.P.E. Cider House & Winery | Youngstown, OH

The DOPE Brand Hannah Ferguson is giving us all a reason to visit Youngstown, Ohio. Her DOPE brand is helping to introduce the city to cider like never before. The bio says that the DOPE brand is about a "Winemaker, Marketing, Event planning, other business services" but this only stays in step wit how she is keeping the door wide open for opportunity.  This Winter and Spring she is busy getting her new cidery up and rolling. It is located next to Penguin Brewing Company. The two business are both revving up the neighborhood where the wildly popular  Youngstown Flea [market] is located too. Expect the brewery and DOPE cidery next tood to all be open this year 2022.  Hannah Ferguson The message behind DOPE DOPE stands for Dwell on Positive Energy and Hannah radiates this vibe! Hear her story on how she got there and how she is able to stay there in this episode. Per the DOPE website: "DOPE isn't only a cider and wine manufacturer, but a lifestyle brand that takes pride in creating connections and experiences uniquely through cider and wine. DOPE brands LLC was established in 2017. Most importantly D.O.P.E. is about empowering underrepresented minorities in the industry as well as enthusiasts." Contact for DOPE Cider House & Winery Website: http://www.dopethebrand.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theDOPEbrand Instagram: @dopethebrand  Mentions in this Chat Support these Sponsors of Cider Chat so they can continue to support this podcast and help you make great cider! Fermentis - Yeast and Fermentation Solutions for Cidermakers Sraml - Food Processing and Cidermaking equipment specialist Ciderganza April 15th-18th Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Co. Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube
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Mar 2, 2022 • 54min

309: Blue Bee Cider | Richmond, VA

Blue Bee Cider Founder Courtney Mailey Courtney Mailey, always knew she wanted to be a farmer of sorts. In the high school she took part in an aptitude test with the result showing that she was to be a farmer. By the way, she was the only kids in her whole class with that goal. Her journey to cider became more obvious after a stint in working in DC, a trip to Ireland (where she met her husband) and an apprenticeship at Albemarle Ciderworks.  She was on the path and took the leap, in 2016 when she bought the current site of Blue Bee Cider in the Scott's Addition area of Richmond, Virginia. Courtney Mailey Topics discussed in this chat Courtney's cider journey Being Richmond's first urban cidery Hewes crab ferments Climate change Richmond’s foodie, art an culture Mentions in this Chat Support these Sponsors of Cider Chat so they can continue to support this podcast and help you make great cider! Fermentis - Yeast and Fermentation Solutions for Cidermakers Sraml - Food Processing and Cidermaking equipment specialist Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube
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Feb 23, 2022 • 55min

308: Virginia's First Lady of Cider | Diane Flynt

Flynt could have grown pot, but it was apples that really caught her eye Flynt casually joked during this interview that perhaps she could have chosen to become a pot (cannabis) grower as a career before becoming an apple farmer.  I think I can speak for the whole of Ciderville in saying, "we are sure glad she went for the apple" Diane Flynt For Virginia and the rest of the cider industry we all gained when she went full into apple growing in 1997 and became the first licensed cidery in the south. Foggy Ridge Cider began selling cider in 2004 and became a top national brand model for astute drinkers who were looking for a true representation of what a blend of apples could do in a bottle of cider. In 2018, she made and sold her last cider called "Final Call". Having been nominated for the James Beard Award in 2015 and 2016, and becoming a finalist for this award in 2017 and 2018, as Flynt puts it, "It was the right choice to stop selling cider and focus on the orchard." Today Foggy Ridge Cider continues on as a premier supplier of apples to regional cidermakers. Topics in this Chat Diane Flynt's early mentors and the role models of today Flynt’s long view on cider and the cider market What she would do differently if she knew back then what she knows now plant different apples varieties that she has learned will grow better Flynt's advice for new growers Flynt's take on working around climate change and choosing apple varieties accordingly Her favorite eating apples Her future plans for the orchards at Foggy Ridge What the future holds for Diane Flynt Working on a book called Windfall on the back story of Diane Flynt and southern apples Contact Foggy Ridge Website: https://foggyridgecider.com/ Mentions in this Chat Terry Maloney - West County Cider Tim Wright - Wise Bird, Kentucky Blue Bee Cider, Virginia - upcoming episode 310 with Courtney Mailey Steve Wood- Farnum Hill Cider Autumn Stoscheck - Eve’s Cider Nick Gunn James Creek CiderHouse Greg Peck PhD Cornell   Support these Sponsors of Cider Chat so they can continue to support this podcast and help you make great cider! Fermentis - Yeast and Fermentation Solutions for Cidermakers Sraml - Food Processing and Cidermaking equipment specialist Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube
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Feb 16, 2022 • 50min

307: Gary Flowers & Diane Flynt | CiderCon2022 Keynotes

Keynote Speakers of CiderCon 2022 Gary Flowers is a keynote speaker, radio host and the tour guide who leads the Jackson Ward history tour. The tour was one of a number of pre-conference tour offerings for CiderCon2022 attendees who had flocked to the city of Richmond, Virginia in the first week of February. The food and cider was abundantly delicious, with stops at the wildly popular restaurant MamaJ's and Cheddar Jackson.  But it was Flowers who really stole the show and kept our small group riveted with fact after fact on the history of the Jackson Ward community. Gary Flowers In this episode hear the beginning of the tour with Gary Flowers.  Woodland Cemetery Bacon Rebellion  Contact for Gary Flowers Website: Walking the Ward with Gary Flowers In Part 2 of Keynotes from CiderCon 2022 Diane Flynt provides the opening keynote for CiderCon 2022 and encouraged the audience to embrace the story of Apples! Hear in this episode her full keynote address! Diane Flynt A bit about Diane Flynt via the American Cider Association website "Diane began in 1997 when she founded Foggy Ridge Cider, the first licensed cidery in the South, by planting cider apples, including many southern varieties. From 2004-2018 Foggy Ridge Cider produced 5300 gallons a year of orchard-focused ciders that was distributed across 15 states. Since its first production, Foggy Ridge Cider gained a national reputation for high quality cider. Foggy Ridge was featured on CBS Sunday Morning Show, and in publications including Gourmet, Imbibe, Saveur, Garden & Gun, Esquire and Martha Stewart Living. Food & Wine magazine named Foggy Ridge a “Small Batch Superstar” in 2010. MADE: In America awarded Foggy Ridge a 2012 American Treasurer’s Award, recognition for artisan producers. Foggy Ridge Cider received many “best of” awards, including a top rating from the New York Times for its Serious Cider blend. Flynt herself was nominated for the James Beard Award for Outstanding Beverage Professional in 2015 and 2016, and was a finalist for this award in 2017 and 2018. She speaks on cider, farming and food culture in national and regional forums." Contact Foggy Ridge Cider Website: https://foggyridgecider.com/ Maggie Lena Walker Statue - a key heroine of Jackson Ward Mentions in this Chat Support these Sponsors of Cider Chat so they can continue to support this podcast and help you make great cider! Fermentis - Yeast and Fermentation Solutions for Cidermakers Sraml - Food Processing and Cidermaking equipment specialist Fermentis - Sraml - Food Processing and Cidermaking equipment specialist Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube  
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Feb 9, 2022 • 1h 7min

306: Ciders for Every Season | Elegast Cidery, Netherlands

Elegast Cidery Beginnings Arjen Meeusem shares his story of living in Portland, Oregon and how a stop at Reverend Nat's Hard Cider to taste the cider inspired him to find out more about this niche market and its viability to make cider in the Netherlands. Arjen Meeuwsen outside the estate based cidery Arjen and his business partners began their cidery in an old green house and then moved to their current location in a 250 square meter shed and utilize the outdoor space for storing their cider. In 2022, the cidery is expanded with a new tasting room and expand production area just outside of Amsterdam set to be open in the summer. Elegast's goal is to use the rising interest in cider to help steer consumers to drink cider to help the orchards aka Drink Cider ~ Save Orchards! Elegast Ciders and Seasonal Offerings Elegast's Saison Cider is a lovely frothy cider with a nod to Saison beers with a cider structure all its own. The goal is to balance the acidity and boost the profile so that there is enough mouthfeel to entice the drinker despite the lack of tannins in the current apples now growing in the Netherlands. The cidery has access to old estate orchards with trees dating back to 1939, which is actually an Unesco Heritage Site marking the demarcation line and trenches used during the World War I. All of Elegast Ciders can be drunk year round, but some might find your palate requesting them during select months. Barrel Aged Ciders - Elegast has a range of barrel aged ciders that can be drunk in the winter and equally enjoyed by fans on a chilly spring, summer or fall evening. Fruit Cider Series - Whole fruits are co-fermented and macerated to incorporate the taste and color of the skin and fruit And excellent cider for the Spring and Summer Terroir Series - Apples from specific orchards and allowed to ferment with the ambient yeast or what is often referred to as  spontaneous yeasts Contact for Elegast Cidery Website: https://elegastcider.nl/ Address: Hoorneboeg 4a, 1213 RE Hilversum, Netherlands Mentions in this Chat Gary Flowers Richmond Virginia's Jackson Ward Tour Guide and multi media star and host of the Gary Flowers Show Peariodic Table of Pome Fruit commissioned by Randal Grahm - Put your name into the drawing for Patrons of Cider Chat by becoming a Patron at the Cider Chat Patreon Page for members at the $5 and up level. New York International Cider Competition - February 21, 2022 4rd Annual New York International Cider Competition for commercial makers. Judges are real buyers making this competition stand apart from all others in cider. Send in your ciders now. Commercial Makers - Enter the New York International Cider Competition  Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube
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Feb 2, 2022 • 21min

305: Cider Chat Live | Maker Tips

Maker Arjen Meeuwsen of Elegast Cidery  Offers business tips before you break ground, when your product is being sold and how to tap into a wider audience. Arjen's goal is "Being Present and Being Visible... and Providing a Good Product" Arjen Meeuwsen Maker Tips Size Growing with the market Managing your stock Cash flow Labor vs the economy of machines Widening your cider audience Contact Elegast Cidery Website: http://www.elegastcider.nl/ Follow Cider Chat Sponsors! CiderCon2021 February 1-4, 2022 - A virtual trade conference for the cider industry hosted by the American Cider Association. Register today! New York International Cider Competition - February 21, 2022 4rd Annual New York International Cider Competition for commercial makers. Judges are real buyers making this competition stand apart from all others in cider. Send in your ciders now. Commercial Makers - Enter the New York International Cider Competition  Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving! Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast Twitter @ciderchat Instagram: @ciderchatciderville Cider Chat FaceBook Page Cider Chat YouTube

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