Money Makers

In this week's edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, speaks to Bruce Stout, manager of the Murray International Investment Trust (MYI). Also, while Jonathan is away in the Netherlands, Stuart Watson, author of the Money Makers Circle trust profiles, joins the podcast to bring a summary of the week's news and market movements. Section Timestamps: 00:29 - Introduction, this week's guest, and the Money Makers Circle 02:15 - This week's news and market movements with Stuart Watson 10:59 - Q&A with Bruce Stout 11:41 - Was 2022 a reckoning some time in the making? 17:06 - Are government bonds a dangerous alternative? 19:19 - Portfolio split between the US and the rest of the world 23:19 - Yield on the Trust and dividends 26:20 - The trust's portfolio 28:51 - Impact of the dollar 32:37 - China 35:38 - Sustainability of results over the coming few years 38:21 - The use of gearing 40:16 - Portfolio holdings 45:18 - No easy solutions to the world's problems 48:13 - Looking at recent management changes 56:39 - Close Trusts mentioned (with tickers): RIT Capital Partners (RCP), JPMorgan Global Growth and Income (JGGI), Mid Wynd International (MWY), Murray International (MYI), Smithson Investment Trust (SSON), BlackRock World Mining (BRWM), Law Debenture (LWDB), Murray Income (MUT), Abrdn UK Smaller Companies Growth (AUSC), Tritax Big Box (BBOX), Princess Private Equity (PEY), European Smaller Companies (ESCT), Bluefield Solar Income Fund (BSIF), Triple Point Social Housing (SOHO), Riverstone Energy (RSE), Greencoat Renewables (GRP), Mobius Investment Trust (MMIT), CQS New City High Yield (NCYF), Pacific Horizon (PHI), Apax Global Alpha (APAX), Pantheon Infrastructure (PINT), Aquila Energy Efficiency (AEET), Home REIT (HOME). If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook. This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features a profile of GCP Infrastructure (GCP). For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 150 podcasts since launch. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Simon Edelsten, manager at Mid Wynd International (MWY). Jonathan also spoke this week to Richard Staveley, lead manager at Rockwood Strategic (RKW), and the podcast features an extract of their conversation, available in full for subscribers to the Money Makers Circle. Section Timestamps: 0:00:29 - Introducing this week's guests 0:01:47 - Money Makers Circle 0:02:27 - Next week's guest 0:02:54 - The markets this week 0:04:12 - Corporate news and announcements 0:21:53 - Q&A with Simon Edelsten 0:09:26 - Reflections on the year just gone 0:13:41 - A new investment world and central bankers' views 0:17:02 - Japan, US and Europe currency rates, and currency movements 0:22:26 - Big technology stocks and valuations 0:32:49 - Looking at different regions 0:39:24 - The portfolio today compared to eighteen months ago 0:41:56 - Investment themes 0:45:04 - The investment trust itself 0:48:49 - Perceptions on the UK 0:51:06 - Rating optimism for the future 0:51:52 - Q&A with Richard Staveley (extract) 1:04:40 - Close Trusts mentioned (with tickers): Greencoat UK Wind (UKW), The Renewables Investment Group (TRIG), Harmony Energy Income (HEIT), NextEnergy Solar Fund (NESF), VH Global Sustainable Energy Opportunities (GSEO), Abrdn European Logistics Income (ASLI), Supermarket Income REIT (SUPR), Regional REIT (RGL), Polar Capital Financials (PGCF), Ruffer Investment Company (RICA), European Opportunities Trust (EOT), AT85 Global Mid-Market Infrastructure Income, The Investment Company (INV), Rockwood Strategic (RKW), Mid Wynd International (MWY). If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook. This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features Jonathan's full discussion with Richard Staveley of Rockwood Strategic, a profile of the Lowland Investment Company (LWI), and updates to the Money Makers Model Portfolios For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 150 podcasts since launch. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Simon Barnard, manager of the Smithson Investment Trust (SSON). Section Timestamps: 00:28 - This week's guest 01:06 - Who’s coming on in future weeks 01:23 - Money Makers Circle 02:03 - Review of the week 02:45 - Corporate news 07:57 - Results summary 10:24 - Q&A with Simon Barnard 11:19 - The impact of 2022 on the Smithson Investment Trust 14:08 - Core metrics at the end of 2022 17:12 - Have investors got it wrong? 19:14 - The current environment for growth investing 22:06 - Resilience of companies to recession or entrenched inflation 23:49 - Portfolio changes 28:20 - New acquisitions 31:51 - The impact of the dollar 33:13 - The investment trust and share buy backs 35:45 - The fee structure 36:14 - Plans for 2023 37:13 - Understanding the company 39:36 - The core message to shareholders in the trust 41:21 - Close Trusts mentioned (with tickers): BH Macro (BHMG), Home REIT (HOME), Abdrn Smaller Companies Income Trust (ASCI), Shires Income (SHRS), Aquila Energy Efficiency Trust (AEET), Brunner Investment Trust (BUT), Herald Investment Trust (HRI), Riverstone Credit Opportunities Income (RCOI), City of London Investment Trust (CTY), Diverse Income Trust (DIVI), Brown Advisory (BASC). If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook. This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features a profile of the Baillie Gifford Japan Trust (BGFD). For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 140 podcasts since launch. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Colette Ord, head of real asset research, and Andrew Rees, property analyst, both at Numis Securities. Section Timestamps: 0:00:28 - This week's guests 0:00:55 - Who's coming on in future weeks 0:01:29 - Review of the week 0:03:45 - Results summary 0:06:07 - Money Makers Circle 0:07:25 - Q&A with Colette Ord 0:08:06 - The year so far in infrastructure and renewable energy 0:09:35 - Gilt yields and spreads 0:14:42 - 3i Infrastructure (3IN) 0:20:54 - AT85 IPO 0:30:15 - Share buy-backs and Cordiant Digital Infrastructure (CORD) 0:35:58 - Divergence between sectors 0:40:29 - Octopus Renewables (ORIT) 0:43:09 - Q&A with Andrew Rees 0:43:28 - Overview of commercial property trusts 0:45:11 - This week's commercial property announcements 0:59:15 - Discounts across the commercial property sector 1:02:55 - The gap between gilts and dividends 1:04:38 - Share price weakness in the property sector this week 1:05:58 - Close Trusts mentioned (with tickers): Scottish American Investment Company (SAIN), BlackRock Throgmorton Trust (THRG), JPMorgan Mid Cap (JMF), Syncona (SYNC), 3i Infrastructure (3IN), AT85, Digital 9 Infrastructure (DGI9), HICL Infrastructure (HICL), Cordiant Digital Infrastructure (CORD), Aquila European Renewables (AERS), Bluefield Solar Income Fund (BSIF), Gresham House Energy Storage (GRID), SDCL Energy Efficiency (SEIT), Octopus Renewables (ORIT), Balanced Commercial Property Trust (BCPT), Custodian Property Income REIT (CREI), LXi REIT (LXI), PRS REIT (PRS), Civitas Social Housing (CSH). If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook. This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features a profile of Urban Logistics REIT (SHED). Jonathan also meets up with Hugh Yarrow, manager of the Evenlode Income Fund, a favourite open-ended fund. For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 140 podcasts since launch. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Chris Clothier, fund manager at Capital Gearing Trust (CGT). Section Timestamps: 00:29 - Introducing Chris Clothier and upcoming guests 01:31 - Central banks rate changes 03:01 - Investment trust sector performance 03:52 - This week's news and results 04:34 - Money Makers Circle 09:56 - Q&A with Chris Clothier 10:17 - Central banks and rate rises 13:33 - Avoiding a bad recession 16:19 - Will this rally shortly run out of steam? 19:14 - Japanese bonds and equities 24:14 - Investing in China 25:18 - CGT asset allocation and positioning 27:38 - Limits to movements in the current trend 31:36 - Discount movements in investment trusts 34:20 - Commercial property sector 38:31 - Social housing sector 41:07 - Opportunities arising from funds winding down 47:17 - Renewables sector 48:58 - What could prompt a move back to risk assets etc.? 50:07 - Close Trusts mentioned (with tickers): Octopus Renewables Infrastucture Trust (ORIT), Ecofin Renewables Infrastructure (RNEW), Aquila European Renewables (AERS), Riverstone Energy (RSE), Abertforth Smaller Companies Trust (ASL), Henderson Opportunities Trust (HOT), BlackRock Income and Growth (BRIG), Abrdn Private Equity Opportunities (APEO), Chrysalis (CHRY), Castelnau Group (CGL), Doric Nimrod Air One (DNA), NB Global Monthly Income (NBMI), Starwood European Real Estate Finance (SWEF), Scottish Mortgage Investment Trust (SMT), RIT Capital Partners (RCP), Tritax Big Box (BBOX), Supermarket Income REIT (SUPR), LXI REIT (LXI), Civitas Social Housing (CSH), Home REIT (HOME), Triple Point Social Housing (SOHO), Smithson Investment Trust (SSON). If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook. This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features a profile of Polar Capital Technology Trust (PCT). For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 140 podcasts since launch. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Duncan MacInnes, manager of the Ruffer Investment Company (RICA). Section Timestamps: 00:59 - Highlights of the week 02:31 - Money Makers Circle this week 03:25 - Investment trust news highlights 06:09 - Q&A with Duncan MacInnes 07:00 - Why 2022 was a good year for Ruffer 12:25 - Trading around the impact of UK index-linked gilts during the Truss administration 13:47 - Exposure to energy 18:28 - Ruffer's selling point 24:18 - Lagging indicators and company earnings 28:07 - Navigating choppy waters 31:57 - The dollar and the US 36:40 - Capacity constraints on the investment trust? 41:25 - Difficulties in achieving numbers that beat inflation 42:32 - A strategy to deal with volatility 45:18 - Close Trusts mentioned (with tickers): 3i Group (III), Literacy Capital (BOOK), Oakley Capital Investments (OCI), Tritax Big Box (BBOX), Invesco Asia Trust (IAT), CT Global Managed Portfolio Trust (CMPG/CMPI), Henderson Smaller Companies Trust (HSL), Edinburgh Worldwide (EWI), BH Macro (BHMG), Home REIT (HOME), Finsbury Growth and Income (FGT), Blackstone Loan Financing (BGLF). If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook. This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features features a profile of Foresight Sustainable Forestry (FSF), and Jonathan provides the first of his reviews of the four Money Makers Model Portfolios. For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 140 podcasts since launch. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Matt Hose, alternative assets analyst at the investment bank Jefferies, and Stuart Widdowson, manager of the Odyssean Investment Trust (OIT). Section Timestamps: 00:13 - Introducing this week's guests 00:51 - Review of the week 02:53 - Money Makers Circle highlights 03:43 - Q&A with Matt Hose 33:53 - Q&A with Stuart Widdowson 54:30 - Close Trusts mentioned (with tickers): BH Macro (BHMG), Smithson Investment Trust (SSON), Civitas Social Housing (CSH), Triple Point Social House (SOHO), Home REIT (HOME), Baker Steel Resources Trust (BSRT), HarbourVest Global Private Equity (HVPE), Pantheon International (PIN), Abrdn Private Equity Opportunities (APEO), NB Private Equity Partners (NBPE), Oakley Capital Investments (OCI), Octopus Renewables Infrastructure Trust (ORIT), Hipgnosis Songs Fund (SONG), Starwood European Real Estate Finance (SWEF), NB Global Monthly Income (NBMI), VPC Speciality Lending (VSL), Chrysalis Investments (CHRY), Schiehallion Fund (MNTN). If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook. In addition to the regular features, the Circle features a profile of Oakley Capital Investments (OCI), and Jonathan summarises his notes from the Winterflood Annual Investment Trusts Conference. For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 140 podcasts since launch. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Max King, former fund manager at Investec and columnist in MoneyWeek,  and Andrew Rees, property investment trust analyst at Numis Securities. Section Timestamps: 00:13 - Review of the week 02:28 - Money Makers Circle 02:58 - Q&A with Max King 03:11 - Max's comments on the latest developments 05:57 - Will world markets do better than US markets? 07:31 - Chinese investment trusts 10:42 - Home REIT (HOME) and RIT Capital Partners (RIT) 17:49 - IPO announcement: AT85 Global Mid-market Infrastructure 18:33 - Aurora Investment Trust (ARR) 19:59 - Risks for the year 20:54 - Changes with Max's investments? 22:17 - Commercial property Q&A with Andrew Rees 22:58 - Summarising what happened to the shares of commercial property trusts in 2022 24:00 - What sectors were worst affected by the change in environment and why 24:57 - The scale of the change in share price performance and ratings 25:52 - Comparing discounts to previews periods of significant discount movements 27:49 - What will happen from here? 29:44 - Dividend yields and their sustainability 33:47 - Further valuation pressures on capitalisation rates 37:36 - Trusts with long-term inflation-linked leases 39:35 - Supermarket Income REIT (SUPR) and the Sainsbury's Supermarket portfolio 41:34 - LXI REIT (LXI) and refinancing 44:14 - Social housing sector 49:21 - Specialist healthcare trusts 53:14 - The trusts that Andrew is looking for 55:38 - Close Trusts mentioned (with tickers) Henderson Diversified Income (HDIV), AT85 Global Mid-market Infrastructure Income, Home REIT (HOME), RIT Capital Partners (RCP), Scottish Mortgage Investment Trust (SMT), Aurora Investment Trust (ARR), Rockwood Strategic (RKW), Odyssean Investment Trust (OIT), North Atlantic Smaller Companies, Temple Bar Investment Trust (TMPL), Edinburgh Investment Trust (EDIN), Regional REIT (RGL), Alternative Income REIT (AIRE), Ediston Property Investment Company (EPIC), AEW UK REIT (AEWU), LXI REIT (LXI), Value and indexed Property Income (VIP), Supermarket Income REIT (SUPR), Abrdn Property Income (API), Civitas Social Housing (CSH), Triple Point Social Housing (SOHO), Target Healthcare REIT (THRL), Impact Healthcare REIT (IHR). If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook. In addition to the regular features, this week the Circle features a profile of SDCL Energy Efficiency Income Trust (SEIT) For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 140 podcasts since launch. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Ewan Lovett-Turner, head of investment trust research at Numis Securities. Section Timestamps: 00:37 - The markets this week 04:22 - Introducing Ewan Lovett-Turner 04:46 - Looking back at 2022 09:41 - Anything distinctive about last year's winners and losers over previous years? 10:53 - Post-pandemic anomaly 12:55 - The impact of bond yields on alternative assets 16:29 - The alternatives sector moving to a discount 19:04 - Issuance figures 23:05 - Will there be trusts that are now unable to raise expected money? 26:27 - Consolidation in the equity investment trust sector 29:44 - The latest from Home REIT (HOME) 32:48 - Sell-off in RIT Capital Partners (RCP) 37:18 - Discount opportunities 47:01 - Opportunities in alternatives 55:22 - Money Makers Circle 55:50 - Close Trusts mentioned (with tickers) include: Riverstone Energy (REL), Artemis Alpha (ATS), TR Property (TRY), Abrdrn Latin American Income (ALAI), Odyssean Investment Trust (OIT), JPMorgan Emerging Europe, Middle East, and Africa (JEMA), Scottish Mortgage Investment Trust (SMT), Edinburgh Worldwide Investment Trust (EWI), Allianz Technology Trust (ATT), Polar Capital Technology Trust (PCT), Aberforth Smaller Companies Trust (ASL), Chrysalis Investment Trust (CHRY), Schiehallian Fund (MNTN), BH Macro (BHMG), BioPharma Credit (BPCR), Capital Gearing Trust (CGT), Ruffer Investment Company (RICA), Personal Assets Trust (PNL), Home REIT (HOME), LXi REIT (LXI), Supermarket Income REIT (SUPR), International Public Partnerships (INPP), The Renewables Infrastructure Group (TRIG), HICL Infrastructure (HICL), City of London Investment Trust (CTY), Merchants Investment Trust (MRCH), Law Debenture (LWDB), Smithson Investment Trust (SSON), TwentyFour Income Fund (TFIF), TwentyFour Select Monthly Income Fund (SMIF), Schroder Real Estate (SREI), Hipgnosis Songs Fund (SONG), Templeton Emerging Markets (TEM), Schroder Japan Growth (SJG), JPMorgan Indian (JII), RIT Capital Partners (RCP), Monks Investment Trust (MNKS), International Biotech (IBT), Biotech Growth Trust (BIOG), Bellevue Healthcare Trust (BBH), Syncona (SYNC), Henderson Smaller Companies Trust (HSL), BlackRock Smaller Companies (BRSC), Triple Point Social Housing (SOHO), Civitas Social Housing (CSH), Schroder Real Estate (SREI), HG Capital Trust (HGT), Oakley Capital (OCI), Bluefield Solar Income Fund (BSIF), Greencoat UK Wind (UKW). If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook. In addition to the regular features, this week the Circle features a profile of Monks (MNKS). For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 140 podcasts since launch. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Sebastian Lyon, manager of the Personal Assets Trust (PNL), and CEO of Troy Asset Management. During their discussion, Jonathan and Sebastian remember the former director of Personal Assets Trust, Robin Angus, who sadly died earlier this year, and they talk about the anthology of his quarterly summaries that have been released as a book, A Shared Journey. This book is available for free as a PDF download: https://www.patplc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/12/1941-PAT-Quarterlies-Anthology-Book.pdf Section Timestamps: 00:24 - Introducing Sebastian Lyon 01:51 - The year in historical context 04:53 - Has the investment game changed? 08:32 - Locking in a loss of wealth 10:23 - Looking at the stock market 14:34 - The problems faced by central banks 17:38 - Could we return to a Goldilocks scenario? 21:27 - Personal Assets Trust (PNL) and other funds 23:50 - Would PNL invest in commodities? 28:58 - Index linked potential 33:51 - Equity exposure 38:18 - Quality stocks 40:24 - Would PNL look at property? 42:24 - The sell-off of the dollar 46:03 - Remembering Robin Angus 53:59 - Close If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook. For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 140 podcasts since launch. You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk. Produced by Ben Gamblin.