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Feb 4, 2023 • 51min
Weekly Investment Trust Podcast with Jonathan Davis (04 Feb 2023)
Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Chris Clothier, fund manager at Capital Gearing Trust (CGT).
Section Timestamps:
00:29 - Introducing Chris Clothier and upcoming guests
01:31 - Central banks rate changes
03:01 - Investment trust sector performance
03:52 - This week's news and results
04:34 - Money Makers Circle
09:56 - Q&A with Chris Clothier
10:17 - Central banks and rate rises
13:33 - Avoiding a bad recession
16:19 - Will this rally shortly run out of steam?
19:14 - Japanese bonds and equities
24:14 - Investing in China
25:18 - CGT asset allocation and positioning
27:38 - Limits to movements in the current trend
31:36 - Discount movements in investment trusts
34:20 - Commercial property sector
38:31 - Social housing sector
41:07 - Opportunities arising from funds winding down
47:17 - Renewables sector
48:58 - What could prompt a move back to risk assets etc.?
50:07 - Close
Trusts mentioned (with tickers): Octopus Renewables Infrastucture Trust (ORIT), Ecofin Renewables Infrastructure (RNEW), Aquila European Renewables (AERS), Riverstone Energy (RSE), Abertforth Smaller Companies Trust (ASL), Henderson Opportunities Trust (HOT), BlackRock Income and Growth (BRIG), Abrdn Private Equity Opportunities (APEO), Chrysalis (CHRY), Castelnau Group (CGL), Doric Nimrod Air One (DNA), NB Global Monthly Income (NBMI), Starwood European Real Estate Finance (SWEF), Scottish Mortgage Investment Trust (SMT), RIT Capital Partners (RCP), Tritax Big Box (BBOX), Supermarket Income REIT (SUPR), LXI REIT (LXI), Civitas Social Housing (CSH), Home REIT (HOME), Triple Point Social Housing (SOHO), Smithson Investment Trust (SSON).
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features a profile of Polar Capital Technology Trust (PCT).
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 140 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jan 28, 2023 • 46min
Weekly Investment Trust Podcast with Jonathan Davis (28 Jan 2023)
Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Duncan MacInnes, manager of the Ruffer Investment Company (RICA).
Section Timestamps:
00:59 - Highlights of the week
02:31 - Money Makers Circle this week
03:25 - Investment trust news highlights
06:09 - Q&A with Duncan MacInnes
07:00 - Why 2022 was a good year for Ruffer
12:25 - Trading around the impact of UK index-linked gilts during the Truss administration
13:47 - Exposure to energy
18:28 - Ruffer's selling point
24:18 - Lagging indicators and company earnings
28:07 - Navigating choppy waters
31:57 - The dollar and the US
36:40 - Capacity constraints on the investment trust?
41:25 - Difficulties in achieving numbers that beat inflation
42:32 - A strategy to deal with volatility
45:18 - Close
Trusts mentioned (with tickers): 3i Group (III), Literacy Capital (BOOK), Oakley Capital Investments (OCI), Tritax Big Box (BBOX), Invesco Asia Trust (IAT), CT Global Managed Portfolio Trust (CMPG/CMPI), Henderson Smaller Companies Trust (HSL), Edinburgh Worldwide (EWI), BH Macro (BHMG), Home REIT (HOME), Finsbury Growth and Income (FGT), Blackstone Loan Financing (BGLF).
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
This week, as well as the regular features, the Circle features features a profile of Foresight Sustainable Forestry (FSF), and Jonathan provides the first of his reviews of the four Money Makers Model Portfolios.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 140 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Please note that this podcast is provided for educational purposes only and nothing you hear should be considered as investment advice. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jan 21, 2023 • 55min
Weekly Investment Trust Podcast with Jonathan Davis (21 Jan 2023)
Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Matt Hose, alternative assets analyst at the investment bank Jefferies, and Stuart Widdowson, manager of the Odyssean Investment Trust (OIT).
Section Timestamps:
00:13 - Introducing this week's guests
00:51 - Review of the week
02:53 - Money Makers Circle highlights
03:43 - Q&A with Matt Hose
33:53 - Q&A with Stuart Widdowson
54:30 - Close
Trusts mentioned (with tickers): BH Macro (BHMG), Smithson Investment Trust (SSON), Civitas Social Housing (CSH), Triple Point Social House (SOHO), Home REIT (HOME), Baker Steel Resources Trust (BSRT), HarbourVest Global Private Equity (HVPE), Pantheon International (PIN), Abrdn Private Equity Opportunities (APEO), NB Private Equity Partners (NBPE), Oakley Capital Investments (OCI), Octopus Renewables Infrastructure Trust (ORIT), Hipgnosis Songs Fund (SONG), Starwood European Real Estate Finance (SWEF), NB Global Monthly Income (NBMI), VPC Speciality Lending (VSL), Chrysalis Investments (CHRY), Schiehallion Fund (MNTN).
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
In addition to the regular features, the Circle features a profile of Oakley Capital Investments (OCI), and Jonathan summarises his notes from the Winterflood Annual Investment Trusts Conference.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 140 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jan 14, 2023 • 57min
Weekly Investment Trust Podcast with Jonathan Davis (14 Jan 2023)
Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Max King, former fund manager at Investec and columnist in MoneyWeek, and Andrew Rees, property investment trust analyst at Numis Securities.
Section Timestamps:
00:13 - Review of the week
02:28 - Money Makers Circle
02:58 - Q&A with Max King
03:11 - Max's comments on the latest developments
05:57 - Will world markets do better than US markets?
07:31 - Chinese investment trusts
10:42 - Home REIT (HOME) and RIT Capital Partners (RIT)
17:49 - IPO announcement: AT85 Global Mid-market Infrastructure
18:33 - Aurora Investment Trust (ARR)
19:59 - Risks for the year
20:54 - Changes with Max's investments?
22:17 - Commercial property Q&A with Andrew Rees
22:58 - Summarising what happened to the shares of commercial property trusts in 2022
24:00 - What sectors were worst affected by the change in environment and why
24:57 - The scale of the change in share price performance and ratings
25:52 - Comparing discounts to previews periods of significant discount movements
27:49 - What will happen from here?
29:44 - Dividend yields and their sustainability
33:47 - Further valuation pressures on capitalisation rates
37:36 - Trusts with long-term inflation-linked leases
39:35 - Supermarket Income REIT (SUPR) and the Sainsbury's Supermarket portfolio
41:34 - LXI REIT (LXI) and refinancing
44:14 - Social housing sector
49:21 - Specialist healthcare trusts
53:14 - The trusts that Andrew is looking for
55:38 - Close
Trusts mentioned (with tickers) Henderson Diversified Income (HDIV), AT85 Global Mid-market Infrastructure Income, Home REIT (HOME), RIT Capital Partners (RCP), Scottish Mortgage Investment Trust (SMT), Aurora Investment Trust (ARR), Rockwood Strategic (RKW), Odyssean Investment Trust (OIT), North Atlantic Smaller Companies, Temple Bar Investment Trust (TMPL), Edinburgh Investment Trust (EDIN), Regional REIT (RGL), Alternative Income REIT (AIRE), Ediston Property Investment Company (EPIC), AEW UK REIT (AEWU), LXI REIT (LXI), Value and indexed Property Income (VIP), Supermarket Income REIT (SUPR), Abrdn Property Income (API), Civitas Social Housing (CSH), Triple Point Social Housing (SOHO), Target Healthcare REIT (THRL), Impact Healthcare REIT (IHR).
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
In addition to the regular features, this week the Circle features a profile of SDCL Energy Efficiency Income Trust (SEIT)
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 140 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Jan 7, 2023 • 56min
Weekly Investment Trust Podcast with Jonathan Davis (07 Jan 2023)
Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Ewan Lovett-Turner, head of investment trust research at Numis Securities.
Section Timestamps:
00:37 - The markets this week
04:22 - Introducing Ewan Lovett-Turner
04:46 - Looking back at 2022
09:41 - Anything distinctive about last year's winners and losers over previous years?
10:53 - Post-pandemic anomaly
12:55 - The impact of bond yields on alternative assets
16:29 - The alternatives sector moving to a discount
19:04 - Issuance figures
23:05 - Will there be trusts that are now unable to raise expected money?
26:27 - Consolidation in the equity investment trust sector
29:44 - The latest from Home REIT (HOME)
32:48 - Sell-off in RIT Capital Partners (RCP)
37:18 - Discount opportunities
47:01 - Opportunities in alternatives
55:22 - Money Makers Circle
55:50 - Close
Trusts mentioned (with tickers) include: Riverstone Energy (REL), Artemis Alpha (ATS), TR Property (TRY), Abrdrn Latin American Income (ALAI), Odyssean Investment Trust (OIT), JPMorgan Emerging Europe, Middle East, and Africa (JEMA), Scottish Mortgage Investment Trust (SMT), Edinburgh Worldwide Investment Trust (EWI), Allianz Technology Trust (ATT), Polar Capital Technology Trust (PCT), Aberforth Smaller Companies Trust (ASL), Chrysalis Investment Trust (CHRY), Schiehallian Fund (MNTN), BH Macro (BHMG), BioPharma Credit (BPCR), Capital Gearing Trust (CGT), Ruffer Investment Company (RICA), Personal Assets Trust (PNL), Home REIT (HOME), LXi REIT (LXI), Supermarket Income REIT (SUPR), International Public Partnerships (INPP), The Renewables Infrastructure Group (TRIG), HICL Infrastructure (HICL), City of London Investment Trust (CTY), Merchants Investment Trust (MRCH), Law Debenture (LWDB), Smithson Investment Trust (SSON), TwentyFour Income Fund (TFIF), TwentyFour Select Monthly Income Fund (SMIF), Schroder Real Estate (SREI), Hipgnosis Songs Fund (SONG), Templeton Emerging Markets (TEM), Schroder Japan Growth (SJG), JPMorgan Indian (JII), RIT Capital Partners (RCP), Monks Investment Trust (MNKS), International Biotech (IBT), Biotech Growth Trust (BIOG), Bellevue Healthcare Trust (BBH), Syncona (SYNC), Henderson Smaller Companies Trust (HSL), BlackRock Smaller Companies (BRSC), Triple Point Social Housing (SOHO), Civitas Social Housing (CSH), Schroder Real Estate (SREI), HG Capital Trust (HGT), Oakley Capital (OCI), Bluefield Solar Income Fund (BSIF), Greencoat UK Wind (UKW).
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
In addition to the regular features, this week the Circle features a profile of Monks (MNKS).
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 140 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Dec 31, 2022 • 55min
Weekly Investment Trust Podcast with Jonathan Davis (31 Dec 2022)
Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Sebastian Lyon, manager of the Personal Assets Trust (PNL), and CEO of Troy Asset Management. During their discussion, Jonathan and Sebastian remember the former director of Personal Assets Trust, Robin Angus, who sadly died earlier this year, and they talk about the anthology of his quarterly summaries that have been released as a book, A Shared Journey. This book is available for free as a PDF download:
https://www.patplc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/12/1941-PAT-Quarterlies-Anthology-Book.pdf
Section Timestamps:
00:24 - Introducing Sebastian Lyon
01:51 - The year in historical context
04:53 - Has the investment game changed?
08:32 - Locking in a loss of wealth
10:23 - Looking at the stock market
14:34 - The problems faced by central banks
17:38 - Could we return to a Goldilocks scenario?
21:27 - Personal Assets Trust (PNL) and other funds
23:50 - Would PNL invest in commodities?
28:58 - Index linked potential
33:51 - Equity exposure
38:18 - Quality stocks
40:24 - Would PNL look at property?
42:24 - The sell-off of the dollar
46:03 - Remembering Robin Angus
53:59 - Close
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 140 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Dec 24, 2022 • 1h 4min
Weekly Investment Trust Podcast with Jonathan Davis (24 Dec 2022)
Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Peter Hewitt, manager of the CT Global Managed Portfolio Trust (CPMG/CPMI).
Trusts mentioned this week (with tickers) include: Majadie Investment Trust (MAJE), JPMorgan Indian Investment Trust (JII), Ecofin Global Utilities and Infrastructure Trust (EGL), Aberdeen Diversified Income and Growth (ADIG), Chenavari Toro Income Fund (TORO), Artemis Alpha (ATS), MIGO Opportunities Trust (MIGO), Atlantis Japan Growth (AJGF), Civitas Social Housing (CSH), Triple Point Social Housing (SOHO), VPC Speciality Lending (VSL), NB Global Monthly Income (NBMI), TwentyFour Income Fund (TFIF), Biopharma Credit (BPCR), GCP Asset Backed Income (GABI), Home REIT (HOME), Scottish Mortgage Investment Trust (SMT), HG Capital Trust (HGT), Fidelity Special Values (FSV), Law Debenture (LWDB), Finsbury Growth and Income (FGT), BH Macro (BHMG), Ruffer Investment Company (RICA), Personal Assets Trust (PNL), Capital Gearing Trust (CGT), Aurora Investment Trust (ARR), Bellevue Healthcare (BBH), HBM Healthcare Investments (SWX:HBMN), BB Biotech (SWX:BION), Biotech Growth Trust (BIOG), International Biotechnology Trust (IBT), Princess Private Equity (PEY), Apax Global Alpha (APAX), Greencoat UK Wind (UKW), Hipgnosis Songs Fund (SONG), Round Hill Music Royalty Fund (RHM).
Section Timestamps:
0:00:35 - Recapping the week
0:02:00 - Summarising results
0:05:41 - Corporate news
0:08:10 - Money Makers Circle
0:09:00 - Q and A with Peter Hewitt
0:09:56 - How has the year been?
0:14:22 - How does this bear market compare to the past?
0:17:14 - Growth versus income
0:19:54 - Will next year see the bottom of the recession?
0:23:25 - The investment trust sector
0:24:10 - Winding up trusts: a healthy development?
0:25:56 - Has Peter invested in a debt fund?
0:28:06 - Social housing trusts
0:35:28 - Discounts and discount controls
0:39:48 - The growth portfolio
0:44:54 - The income portfolio
0:49:47 - Managing currency risk
0:51:57 - Underlying discount on the portfolio
0:55:50 - Music royalty trusts
1:00:20 - Looking forward to next year
1:01:48 - Investment Trusts Handbook
1:02:43 - Close
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
In addition to the regular features, this week the Circle features a profile of JLEN Environmental (JLEN), along with notes from Jonathan on the markets
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 140 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Dec 17, 2022 • 55min
Weekly Investment Trust Podcast with Jonathan Davis (17 Dec 2022)
Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Nick Greenwood, manager of MIGO Global Opportunities Trust (MIGO).
Trusts mentioned this week (with tickers) include: Global Smaller Companies Trust (GSCT), JPMorgan Asia Growth and Income (JAGI), JPMorgan China Growth and Income (JCGI), JPMorgan Japanese (JFJ), JPMorgan European Discovery (JEDT), Polar Capital Technology (PCT), Polar Capital Global Healthcare (PCGH), GCP Infrastructure (GCP), Gore Street Energy Storage (GSF), Foresight Sustainable Forestry (FSF), Custodian Property Income REIT (CREI), Ediston Property (EPIC), Doric Nimrod Air One/Two/Three (DNA, DNA2, DNA3), Pantheon Infrastructure (PINT), Sequoia Economic Infrastructure Income (SEQI), Octopus Renewables Infrastructure (ORIT), Alpha Real (ARTL), Dunedin Enterprise (DNE), Artemis Alpha (ATS), Strategic Equity Capital (SEC), River and Mercantile Micro Cap (RMMC), Miton UK Micro Cap (MINI), Downing Strategic Micro Cap (DSM), Third Point Investors (TPOU), Nippon Active Value Fund (NAVF), Cambium Global Timberland (TREE), Tufton Oceanic Assets (SHIP), Polar Capital Global Financials (PCFT), Biotech Growth Trust (BIOG), International Biotechnology Trust (IBT), Amedeo Air Four Plus (AA4), VPC Speciality Lending Investments (VSL), Yellow Cake (YCA), Geiger Counter (GCL), Macau Property Opportunities (MPO), Phoenix Spree Deutschland (PSDL), Chrysalis Investments (CHRY), Schroder UK Public Private (SUPP), Oakley Capital (OCI), NB Private Equity (NBPE).
Section Timestamps:
00:22 - Introducing the latest Investment Trusts Handbook
03:08 - Introducing Nick Greenwood
03:42 - Review of the week
05:35 - Selected results
07:37 - Money Makers Circle
08:54 - Q and A with Nick Greenwood
11:35 - Widening discounts an opportunity?
13:49 - The MIGO approach
15:47 - Exited positions
17:39 - UK Micro Cap
27:34 - Number of holdings in the portfolio
28:19 - Recent purchases
31:35 - What's behind the dramatic biotech selloff?
23:20 - Aircraft leasing
32:14 - Broader portfolio themes
31:27 - Property
40:21 - Private equity and growth capital
47:35 - Are we through the worst of the discount widening?
51:26 - Hopes for 2023
54:25 - Close
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
In addition to the regular features, this week the Circle features a profile of the Biotech Growth Trust (BIOG).
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 130 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Dec 10, 2022 • 51min
Weekly Investment Trust Podcast with Jonathan Davis (10 Dec 2022)
Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Alastair Laing, co-manager of Capital Gearing Trust.
Trusts mentioned this week (with tickers) include: Civitas Social Housing (CSH), Home REIT (HOME), LXI REIT (LXI), Value and Indexed Property (VIP), Hipgnosis Songs Fund (SONG), Schroder UK Mid Cap Investment Trust (SCP), Finsbury Growth and Income (FGT), Monks (MNKS), Securities Trust of Scotland (STS), Templeton Emerging Markets (TEM), Barings Emerging EMEA Opportunities (BEE), BlackRock Frontiers Investment Trust (BRFI).
Section Timestamps:
00:39 - The Investment Trusts Handbook
02:23 - Capital Gearing Trust
03:33 - Q&A with Alastair Laing
04:36 - The thinking behind CGT's defensive stance
07:53 - Any significant changes at CGT?
10:48 - What would it take to start thinking about increasing equity and risk asset exposure?
14:04 - Could the US avoid a recession?
16:18 - Inflation cannot be won in one battle
18:32 - Danger of a wage-price spiral in the US?
20:05 - Opportunities from wide discounts in the investment trusts sector
21:56 - The rise of alternative assets
24:02 - Commercial property
30:24 - Music royalties
31:55 - Renewable energy trusts
35:13 - Equity markets, investment style, and small vs large cap
45:26 - Emerging markets, and the role of single country or specialist regional trusts in a portfolio
47:34 - The role of Japan in the portfolio
50:22 - Money Makers Circle
50:56 - Close
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
In addition to the regular features, this week the Circle features a profile of the JPMorgan Global Core Real Assets Trust (JARA).
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 130 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.

Dec 3, 2022 • 44min
Weekly Investment Trust Podcast with Jonathan Davis (03 Dec 2022)
Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by Max King, columnist for MoneyWeek, and former fund manager at Investec Asset Management; and also previews a discussion with Ben Rogoff, manager of Polar Capital Technology (PCT) - available in full for subscribers to the Money Makers Circle.
Trusts mentioned this week (with tickers) include: Digital 9 Infrastructure Trust (DGI9), US Solar Fund (USF), Home REIT (HOME), Keystone Positive Change (KPC), Baillie Gifford UK Growth (BGUK), Baillie Gifford European (BGEU), JPMorgan Emerging Markets (JMG), Mobius Investment Trust (MMIT), Fidelity Emerging Markets (FEML), Chrysalis (CHRY), Schiehallion (MNTN), Literacy Capital (BOOK), Tritax Big Box (BBOX), TR Property (TRY), Odyssean Investment Trust (OIT), JPMorgan Global Core Real Assets (JARA), Life Science REIT (LABS).
Section Timestamps:
00:32 - The Investment Trusts Handbook 2023
01:16 - Q&A with Max King
01:22 - The last three months and where we're at now
04:39 - Thoughts on investment trusts in general
06:27 - Discounts and alternative assets
09:05 - Markets and politics
09:53 - Looking at specific trusts
17:15 - Equity investment trusts sector
20:09 - Vietnam, China, and emerging markets
23:12 - Private equity
25:08 - Commercial property
28:43 - What has Max been doing?
31:17 - A summary of the week's results
34:15 - Money Makers Circle
34:44 - Q&A with Ben Rogoff (extract)
43:52 - Close
If you enjoy the weekly podcast, you may also find value in joining The Money Makers circle. This is a membership scheme that offers listeners to the podcast an opportunity, in return for a modest monthly or annual subscription, to receive additional premium content, including interviews, performance data, market/portfolio reviews and regular extracts from the editor's notebook.
In addition to the regular features, this week the Circle features a piece by Edward Chancellor about the cryptocurrency market, and a profile of Pantheon International (PIN). Subscribers can also listen to the full conversation with Ben Rogoff, manager of Polar Capital Technology. Ben spoke about many issues including whether the market environment remains favourable to technology stocks, and some of the larger stocks in the sector.
For more information about the Money Makers circle, please visit money-makers.co/membership-join. Membership helps to cover the cost of producing the weekly investment trust podcast, which will continue to be free. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 130 podcasts since launch.
You can find more information, including relevant disclosures, at www.money-makers.co. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website, www.theaic.co.uk.
Produced by Ben Gamblin.