The Trailhead

UTMB champion. Western States course record threat. Field hockey state champion. Rock doctor. Katie Schide is one of the most accomplished ultrarunners on the planet, and somehow, still one of the most quietly focused. In this episode of The Trailhead, Zoë and Brendan catch up with Katie ahead of her Hardrock 100 debut to talk about how she’s evolved as a competitor, why she used to downplay her ambitions, and what’s changed in both the sport and herself since her eighth-place finish at UTMB back in 2021.  They dig into why UTMB might just be the “Goldilocks” race of the sport, how Katie and her partner are spending the summer training in Colorado’s San Juans, and how her background in geology shapes the way she sees, and runs through, the landscape. Katie also shares her take on the term “sub-ultra” and why she thinks we’ve maybe overcomplicated what’s just... running.  Plus, Buzz Burrell drops in for a TrailCon Hall of Fame recap, a preview of a potential Katie vs. Courtney showdown at UTMB, and a quick nod to the real MVPs: New England moms on Facebook. This episode is brought to you by SIDAS, makers of high-performance insoles, socks, and footbeds specifically designed for trail running. Whether you're grinding out vert or trying to keep your feet happy past hour six, SIDAS gear is built to handle the unpredictable trail, so your feet don't have to. Check them out at sidas.us and give your feet the upgrade they deserve. And if you’re dreaming of a trail experience that’s less race and more wild adventure, don’t miss our featured adventure: Ruta de los Arrieros, a three-day expedition run through Colombia’s ancient gold routes. Expect big climbs, river crossings, waterfall rappels, jungle villages, and about as much trail magic as you can handle. It’s capped at just 10 runners this year and kicks off September 14, so if you’re into chasing moments instead of PRs, this one’s for you. Registration closes August 20 at UltraSignup.

This week on The Trailhead, we’re joined by the one and only Kofuzi, a self-proclaimed non-elite YouTube runner who’s built a global following by filming marathons, gear reviews, and everyday runs with heart, humor, and a handheld camera. Zoë and Brendan chat with him about the leap from roads to trails, what it really takes to make running content, and why being “exceptionally average” might be a superpower. Whether you’re here for the shoe talk, the trail stoke, or the shared love of goofy long runs, this one’s for you.  Follow Kofuzi: YouTube & Instagram: @kofuzi Thanks to Running Warehouse for supporting the Trailhead! Check them out for all your gear, apparel and nutriton needs. 

Join trail runner and printmaker Abigail West as she intertwines endurance and artistry from the Southern Appalachia. She shares her journey blending physical movement with creative expression, revealing how she captures the emotional essence of landscapes. Discover her insights on training for ultras during art fair season and her obsession with spiderweb-filled trails. Abigail also tackles challenges of being an entrepreneurial artist, the impact of algorithms on the art world, and her love for Waffle House—making this conversation as rich as her prints.

Steve Magness, a performance scientist and author, is on a mission to redefine mental toughness. He challenges traditional views on grit, arguing that joy and curiosity are key to success, particularly in running. Discussing how elite athletes flourish when they let go of external pressures, he emphasizes the importance of community over metrics. The conversation uncovers the deeper lessons running teaches about connection and emotional experience, reminding us that it can be a joyful escape rather than a grind.

In this conversation, endurance sports journalist Alex Hutchinson, known for his Outside column and the book Endure, delves into the fascinating world of exploration and the psychology behind why challenging tasks can lead to greater fulfillment. He discusses the 'explore vs. exploit' dilemma in running and life choices, emphasizing that inefficiency fuels joy and creativity. Alex also reflects on how parenthood shifted his views on curiosity and comfort zones, offering insights that encourage listeners to embrace uncertainty and push their limits.

In this engaging discussion, Mario Fraioli, a seasoned coach and host of the Morning Shakeout, dives into the complexities of running. He humorously tackles burning questions like 'How slow is too slow?' and explores the fine line between running and hiking. Mario shares insights on overcoming fears in trail running, the perpetual quest for speed, and the importance of strength training. He also debunks myths about running with weighted vests while emphasizing the joy of the journey over mere performance. Plenty of laughs and wisdom await!

What does it mean to live a good life? And can your running practice help you get there? In this episode of The Trailhead, Zoë Rom and Brendan Leonard sit down with Sabrina Little: ultrarunner, philosopher, ethics professor, mom of (soon to be) three, and author of The Examined Run: Why Good People Make Better Runners. Sabrina’s work sits at the fascinating intersection of character development, everyday ethics, and endurance sports. She teaches philosophy at Christopher Newport University and writes a beloved ethics column for iRunFar—and she’s here to explore how running can be a "laboratory for virtue," where our daily choices shape who we become both on and off the trail. Together, we unpack: How running teaches us about moral character (whether we know it or not) Everyday ethical choices in sport and life—beyond the big scandals Why we hedge the truth (even when no one's watching) What it means to celebrate others' success while still chasing your own The role of humor and humility in building resilience How parenting and philosophy collide  And why runners aren’t just chasing finish lines—they’re practicing becoming better people. 🏃‍♂️ This episode is brought to you by our friends at Running Warehouse! Running Warehouse makes it easy to gear up for your next big adventure with thousands of in-depth reviews, expert advice, and fast, free shipping. Whether you're chasing vert in the mountains or keeping it local on your home trails, Running Warehouse has you covered with the best brands and the biggest selection of shoes, apparel, and gear. Before you head out for your next run, stock up at Running Warehouse. Links and Resources: 🧩 The Examined Run: Why Good People Make Better Runners by Sabrina Little: Buy the book 🖋️ Sabrina’s ethics column for iRunFar Follow Sabrina on Instagram: @sabrina.little This episode of The Trailhead is hosted by Zoë Rom and Brendan Leonard. It’s part of the UltraSignup Podcast Network. If you loved this conversation, share it with your trail crew, leave us a review, and don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an adventure. Follow the show at @trailheadpod, or drop us a line at trailhead@ultrasignup.com — we’d love to hear your stories, guest ideas, or just say hi! And be sure to check out all the other great shows in the Ultra Podcast Network.

Join Brendan Leonard and his mom as they dive deep into the joys and absurdities of ultrarunning. Expect humorous tales about race regrets and poop strategies that add some comedic relief to the endurance game. Brendan shares what drew him to the middle of the pack, where the magic happens. The conversation emphasizes community, storytelling, and the lighter side of ultra running, making it clear that the journey is just as important as the finish line.

Big changes are happening at The Trailhead! In this episode, co-hosts Zoë Rom and Buzz Burrell reflect on Buzz’s legendary career in trail running and his next big adventure—his very own podcast, The Buzz with Buzz Burrell. Buzz shares his perspective on how the sport has evolved, from the early days of ultrarunning to the rise of FKTs (Fastest Known Times), the integration of outdoor culture into trail running, and the innovations that have transformed the way we run. He and Zoë also discuss why authenticity matters in media, what makes someone a lasting presence in the sport, and what listeners can expect from The Buzz, launching March 25th. 🏃 Shoutout to Our Sponsor: Running Warehouse! This episode of The Trailhead is brought to you by Running Warehouse, your one-stop shop for all things trail and ultrarunning. Check them out and gear up for your next adventure at RunningWarehouse.com. Tune in for: 🔥 Buzz on the history of trail running and its evolution 🏃 The rise of FKTs and why they matter 🎙️ Why The Buzz is bringing something new to trail running media 🤔 What makes someone a legend in the sport? 📖 Buzz’s upcoming book on FKTs - check it out! Stay Connected & Tune In! Subscribe to The Buzz with Buzz Burrell – launching March 25th! Follow UltraSignup for updates on new podcast episodes. Got questions or hot takes for Buzz? Email buzz@ultrasignup.com Big news for The Trailhead is coming April 1st – stay tuned! 📩 Email us at trailhead@ultrasignup.com with your questions or guest ideas!

What makes someone want to run their first ultra? And more importantly—what makes them want to come back for a second? The reality is, most people who sign up for an ultra only do one. But why? And how can we help more runners not just finish, but fall in love with the sport? Tune in for tips on running your first - or even tenth - ultramarathon.  In this episode, Buzz and Zoë dig into what it takes to have a meaningful, successful experience at your first ultra, whether you're eyeing a 50K for the first time or looking to refine your approach. They’re joined by two powerhouse runners and coaches—Dr. Stefanie Flippin and Krissy Moehl—who have spent years helping athletes navigate the highs, lows, and everything in between when it comes to ultrarunning. What keeps people from coming back after their first ultra? And what can we do to change that? How to transition from roads to trails – Why adjusting your pacing expectations is key, and how to train when access to trails is limited. The best training approach for your first ultra – What really works when it comes to long runs, back-to-backs, and balancing speed with endurance. Mindset shifts that make a difference – From letting go of rigid time goals to understanding why ultras are as much about problem-solving as they are about running. The fueling equation – Why past generations of ultrarunners got this wrong, and how 300+ calories an hour can change your entire race experience. Making ultras more accessible – Stefanie shares what real inclusion looks like in the sport, and why handing someone a race bib isn’t enough. Thanks to Our Sponsors! Wahoo KICKR RUN: Take your run training to the next level—whether you're dialing in race-specific pacing, tackling structured workouts, or just escaping the elements. The Wahoo KICKR RUN is the first smart treadmill designed for endurance athletes, with real-road feel and precision control to match your effort. Train smarter and run stronger. Learn more at wahoofitness.com. LMNT: Ultras aren’t just about water—you need electrolytes, too. Element makes that part easy, with a science-backed formula and none of the junk you don’t need. Our listeners can get a free sample pack with any purchase at drinkelement.com/ultrasignup. Resources & Links Running Your First Ultra by Krissy Moehl – https://krissymoehl.com/ Making Strides Podcast by Stefanie Flippin – Listen Here Got a question for Buzz and Zoë? Email trailhead@ultrasignup.com