

The Prehab Podcast
Prehab
The Prehab Podcast is for anyone looking to take their health, performance, and patient care to the next level. Whether you're a clinician, fitness professional, or simply passionate about movement and injury prevention, this podcast keeps you at the forefront of physical therapy, health tech, and performance optimization.
Hosted by Dr. Michael Lau, Dr. Arash Maghsoodi, and Dr. Craig Lindell—founders of Prehab and Doctors of Physical Therapy—each episode delivers practical strategies and expert insights to help you improve patient outcomes, stay ahead of industry trends, and grow your career or business.
We cover everything from advanced treatment approaches and innovations in health technology to navigating the business of rehab, optimizing patient communication, and career development. From deep dives with industry leaders to real-world strategies you can use right away, this podcast brings you conversations that empower you to take control of your health and of others.
Hosted by Dr. Michael Lau, Dr. Arash Maghsoodi, and Dr. Craig Lindell—founders of Prehab and Doctors of Physical Therapy—each episode delivers practical strategies and expert insights to help you improve patient outcomes, stay ahead of industry trends, and grow your career or business.
We cover everything from advanced treatment approaches and innovations in health technology to navigating the business of rehab, optimizing patient communication, and career development. From deep dives with industry leaders to real-world strategies you can use right away, this podcast brings you conversations that empower you to take control of your health and of others.
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Feb 11, 2020 • 46min
#37 | Medicine, Physical Therapy, and Business with Dr. Catherine Logan
In this episode, Mike chat's with Dr. Catherine Logan, MD, MBA, MSPT is a sports medicine Orthopedic Surgeon and writer, as well as a former physical therapist and personal trainer who also happens to hold a masters of business association. Through our conversation, we learned about her career path, how her past experiences as a physical therapist have influenced her practice as an orthopedic surgeon today and her thoughts on the future of medicine and healthcare in the United States. She drops a lot of great advice for any aspiring young professionals or students on how to arm yourself with the knowledge to choose a career path. Based in Denver, CO, Dr. Logan is an attending at Rose Medical Center, where her clinic uniquely offers The Fit Lab, a dedicated exercise testing space using motion capture and force mats to better follow her patient’s rehab progress. Dr. Logan is also the Head League Physician for Premier Lacrosse League (PLL), caring for our nation's most talented men's lacrosse professionals on the sidelines and off the field. She also travels internationally and nationally as a member of the team physician pool for the US Ski & Snowboard teams each year. Enjoy! Michael Guest: Dr. Catherine Logan, MD, MBA, MSPT Instagram: @cloganmd Website: www.cloganmd.com Podcast: The Injury Report Visit our website: www.theprehabguys.com Follow us on: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube | Twitter Connect with The Prehab Guysinfo@theprehabguys.com Leave feedback, let us know what to talk about next. Did you enjoy this? Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe.

Jan 27, 2020 • 54min
#36 | Talking Hip Variations & Meditation With Ryan DeBell
In this episode, Arash and Dr. Ryan DeBell discuss Ryan's online journey with Movement Fix. Ryan starts out with how he got started with his personal brand. The conversation takes a turn into meditation, throughout this podcast Ryan does a great job of expressing his thoughts through a philosophical lens. We end up with one of Ryan's favorite topics, squatting and hip anatomical variations to consider! Ryan DeBell is the founder of Movement Fix. Ryan has a deep passion for two things: Health/Fitness & Technology. Movement Fix is a blend of these two areas. In 2009 Ryan graduated from the University of Washington's Foster School of Business, focusing on Information Technology. Ryan then attended the University of Western States, earning a Master's Degree in Sport & Exercise Science and a Doctorate in chiropractic. Ryan does not identify as a chiropractor because he believes labels pigeon hole us into thinking in a limited way. Ryan is open minded to all things that can make us healthy and he considers himself a human who has studied many disciplines. Enjoy!The Prehab Guys Guest: Ryan DeBell Instagram: @movementfix Learn more about squatting and anatomical variations here: https://themovementfix.com/squatting-and-anatomical-variations/ Here is the tool we discussed in the podcast: https://shop.thettool.com Learn more about the Squat Fundamentals [P]Rehab Program HERE. Learn more about the Master The Back Squat [P]Rehab Program HERE. Visit our website: www.theprehabguys.com Follow us on: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube | Twitter Connect with The Prehab Guys info@theprehabguys.com Leave feedback, let us know what to talk about next. Did you enjoy this? Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe.

Jan 21, 2020 • 40min
#35 | Training The Mind With Sport Pyschology
In this episode, Craig and Sarah Forsythe, a clinical mental performance coach, discuss how to train the mind with sport psychology. Mental health and fitness in professional sports has been in the spotlight more than ever over the past few years. Athletes are now understanding the true value of optimizing their psyche, which can improve their physical performance. Craig and Sarah discuss the power of sport psychology and much more including what the profession is all about, who can benefit from this type of service, learning the signs and symptoms of those that would benefit from seeking help, and how to master the skill of being present. Sarah also shares some easy actionable practices and resources to start training your mind now. Bio Sarah Forsythe is a Certified Mental Performance Coach (CMPC), Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), and has her Masters in Counseling and Sport Psychology. She specializes in high performance mindset training. Her viewpoint is that as humans, we perform in every aspect of life. She helps individuals redefine what it means to perform and how to become confident in that performance. She works with a wide range of personas from corporate leaders to high achieving athletes, helping them to overcome their barriers and accomplish goals. Enjoy! The Prehab Guys Guest: Sarah Forsythe, Mental Performance Specialist, LPC, CMPC Email: Sarah@RedefinePerformance.org Website: https://www.redefineperformance.org Sarah's recommended resource: 10% Happier https://www.tenpercent.com/ "I like it because it's more of a conversation around mindfulness and meditation." Visit our website: www.theprehabguys.com Follow us on: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube | Twitter Connect with The Prehab Guys info@theprehabguys.com Leave feedback, let us know what to talk about next. Did you enjoy this? Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe.

Jan 14, 2020 • 45min
#34 | Athletic Training in D1 College Sports
In this episode, Craig is joined by Tesa Johns & Andy Mutnan, who are athletic trainers for The Penn State Football Team, to discuss all things Athletic Training in D1 College Sports. Topics from this discussion include what exactly is an athletic trainer, what an ATC's role looks like and how it evolves season to season, what it's like to work in a D1 college football setting with extremely talented student athletes, prehab for athletes, and some of the constraints and limitations to true prehab in a competitive environment. Furthermore, they discuss where the profession is at, how it is has adapted over the years on and off the field, and where Tesa and Andy would like to see it go in the future. BioTesa Johns is a licensed, board-certified assistant athletic trainer at Pennsylvania State University, where she works exclusively with Penn State Football. She is a 2015 graduate of Pennsylvania State University, where she majored in athletic training and minored in psychology. She obtained a master’s degree in sport and pedagogy at Louisiana State University in 2017. At LSU, Tesa was a graduate assistant athletic trainer, working with LSU Football as well as the track and field team. She also plays an intricate role in the collaboration between Penn State Center for Sport Concussion Research & Services and Penn State Sports Medicine. Andy Mutnan is in his second year at Penn State as the head athletic trainer for football and his 17th overall. Andy earned his bachelor's degree in athletic training with a minor in psychology from the University of North Dakota in 2002 and his master's degree in sports administration from the University of Minnesota in 2005. Prior to coming to Penn State, he spent five seasons at Washington State University as the head football athletic trainer, five seasons at the University of Nevada as the associate director and head football athletic trainer, and also served as an assistant athletic trainer (2004-08) and graduate assistant (2003-04) at the University of Minnesota. He spent the 2002-03 season at the University of Colorado as an athletic training professional intern. Enjoy! The Prehab Guys Guests: Tesa Johns & Andy Mutnan from Penn State Football Sports Medicine Staff Instagram: Tesa Twitter: Tesa & Andy Visit our website: www.theprehabguys.com Follow us on: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube | Twitter Connect with The Prehab Guys info@theprehabguys.com Leave feedback, let us know what to talk about next. Did you enjoy this? Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe.

Jan 6, 2020 • 28min
#33 | Choosing The Right Recovery Product After Workouts
In this episode, Craig is joined by Jarod and Aron Hiltzik from Recovery For Athletes to discuss all things recovery. These brothers know all about recovery considering the fact they were professional tennis players competing on the ATP tour all around the world. Now they are helping fellow athletes and the average person navigate the world of recovery products with their first-hand experiences. Topics from this discussion include what ultimately led the brothers to create recovery for athletes, their preferred recovery strategies, challenges in the emerging field, and much more. Be sure to check out their website link in the show notes to get your hands on recovery equipment today. Bio Recovery for Athletes was founded by two brothers, Jared and Aron, whose passion for sports longevity transpired into creating a company that has now helped thousands of athletes, sports teams, physical therapists and more. Jared and Aron grew up playing all sports but ultimately decided to pursue a tennis career. After successful bouts at the University of Illinois, both Jared and Aron went on to compete on the ATP Tour for tennis. Throughout their careers, both brothers knew how important it was to maintain a healthy body and be injury free. They were exposed to hundreds of different recovery products and devices to help keep them healthy. Some of these products worked and some of them didn’t. Their promise at Recovery for Athletes is to offer products that have worked and helped them to maintain long and healthy tennis careers. Enjoy! The Prehab Guys Guests: Jared and Aron Hiltzik Instagram: @recoveryforathletes Website: www.recoveryforathletes.com Visit our website: www.theprehabguys.com Follow us on: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube | Twitter Connect with The Prehab Guys info@theprehabguys.com Leave feedback, let us know what to talk about next. Did you enjoy this? Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe.

Dec 25, 2019 • 44min
#32 | Managing Runners With Chris Johnson
In this episode, Craig and Chris Johnson, a triathlon runner and Physical Therapist, discuss all things running and endurance athletes. Topics from this discussion include Chris's background including why he is so passionate about helping runners, some of the misconceptions runners as well as healthcare clinicians deal with in regards to running injuries, running and bone stress injuries, and easy actionable steps both parties can take to improve outcomes. Chris has a way with helping these types of athletes not only rehab back to their baseline, but ultimately elevate the bar and compete at the highest level across the world. This podcast is filled with some great clinical pearls on top of just how to be a better healthcare clinician. Bio Chris Johnson is a physical therapist and certified triathlon coach (ITCA) based out of Seattle, WA. Chris is the owner of Zeren PT LLC, which provides unparalleled physical therapy and performance coaching for multisport athletes in the Pacific Northwest. Outside of his professional work, Chris races triathlon at the amateur elite level. He is a six-time USAT All American, three-time Kona Qualifier, and one of the dominant age group athletes in long course triathlon. Chris is also extensively published in the medical literature and is a sought after international public speaker. Enjoy! The Prehab Guys Guest: Chris Johnson, PT Instagram: @zerenpt Website: chrisjohnsonpt.com Learn more about the Running [P]Rehab Program HERE. Visit our website: www.theprehabguys.com Follow us on: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube | Twitter Connect with The Prehab Guys info@theprehabguys.com Leave feedback, let us know what to talk about next. Did you enjoy this? Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe.

Dec 17, 2019 • 53min
#31 | Olympic Weightlifting and Online Programming With Cal Strength's Dave Spitz
In this episode, Mike chats with world renown Olympic Weightlifting Coach Dave Spitz - founder and CEO of California Strength - a premier athletic performance facility located in San Ramon, California. They chat about how technology has allowed them to remotely train thousands of athletes from around the world and build a tribe amongst the weightlifting community. Dave has an in-house physical therapist at California Strength and they chat about how they have integrated rehab and prehab to keep their athletes performing at a high level at the time. Dave also shares some insights on weightlifting, programming for elite level athletes, and how he's raising his kids to have a solid all-around athletic base. This was a great one for anyone interested in weightlifting, performance physical therapy, and raising kids (haha!). Dave is one of the few USA Weightlifting Senior International Coaches in the country as well as a Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist. His athletic facility, California Strength, has dominated the United States Olympic weightlifting landscape, producing numerous National Team Titles, American Records and earning medal recognition on the international stage. In addition to Olympic weightlifting, California Strength specializes in athletic performance and has worked with and developed athletes of all sports, age levels and experience from youth to the professional ranks. Enjoy! Michael Guest: Dave Spitz of California Strength Instagram: @cal_strength Website: https://www.californiastrength.com/ Learn more about the [P]Rehab At Home Program HERE. Visit our website: www.theprehabguys.com Follow us on: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube | Twitter Connect with The Prehab Guys info@theprehabguys.com Leave feedback, let us know what to talk about next. Did you enjoy this? Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe.

Dec 17, 2019 • 46min
#30 | Sports Therapy, Strength & Conditioning In Pro Baseball with LA Angels Dr. Sean Johnson
In this episode, Craig and Sean Johnson from the Los Angeles Angels Baseball Team discuss all things PT and Pro Baseball. Sean has spent the last three seasons with the Angels as a team physical therapist and assistant strengthening and conditioning coach. Topics from this discussion include Sean's experience in his unique role, how baseball players can be different from other athletes and even amongst themselves based on position, the benefits of interdisciplinary care, what it takes to work in pro sports, and a whole lot more. Sean is a book of life knowledge and there is a ton of value packed in this one! Sean Johnson is in his third season within the Angels Organization as a Physical Therapist and Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coach for the team. In this role, Sean facilitates continuity between Athletic Medicine and Strength and Conditioning for the Angel Players. Prior to joining the Angels Sean practiced at USC Physical Therapy Associates at University Park Campus; a Faculty Practice within the Division of Biokinesiology and Physical Therapy at the University of Southern California. He also taught within the Entry-level Physical Therapy Program at USC for 6 years. Sean continues to serve as Adjunct Faculty for the Division at USC. Sean received his clinical doctorate degree in physical therapy at the University of Southern California and went onto complete an Orthopedic Residency at USC receiving an Orthopedic Certificate in Physical Therapy. Enjoy! The Prehab Guys Guest: Sean Johnson, PT, DPT, OCS, CSCS Email: sean.johnson@angels.com Learn more about the Shoulder [P]Rehab Program HERE. Visit our website: www.theprehabguys.com Follow us on: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube | Twitter Connect with The Prehab Guys info@theprehabguys.com Leave feedback, let us know what to talk about next. Did you enjoy this? Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe.

Dec 3, 2019 • 42min
#29 | Talking Fitness With LA Laker's Director of Strength & Endurance Gunnar Peterson
In this episode, Arash and celebrity trainer Gunnar Peterson talk about fitness. Gunnar explains his fitness journey and his experience as the director of strength and endurance for the Los Angeles Lakers. We discuss an assortment of topics such as mindset, stress management, client goals, and the importance of training movements vs. the muscle! Gunnar Peterson is a Beverly Hills-based personal trainer whose clients include celebrities, professional athletes, and everyday people. Gunnar is also the Los Angeles Lakers’ Director of Strength and Endurance. He is widely recognized for his expertise in functional training and his commitment to developing and implementing innovative fitness techniques. With over 28 years in the fitness industry, Gunnar’s dynamic approach, boundless energy and (sometimes risky) humor only add to the effectiveness of the experience his clients enjoy. With a client list as diverse as his training methods, Gunnar emphasizes strength training modalities that can be transferred from the gym to daily life, from training camp to championship game. He has worked with athletes from the NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB, USTA, professional boxing (male AND female!) and various NCAA sports. Many film and television celebrities have also sought Gunnar’s guidance in preparing for roles and have stayed on to become year-round clients, making him a cornerstone of their fitness regimen. Enjoy! The Prehab Guys Guest: Gunnar Peterson Instagram: @GunnarFitness Learn more about the [P]Rehab At Home Program HERE. Visit our website: www.theprehabguys.com Follow us on: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube | Twitter Connect with The Prehab Guys info@theprehabguys.com Leave feedback, let us know what to talk about next. Did you enjoy this? Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe.

Dec 3, 2019 • 42min
#28 | Social Media & When Asymmetries Matter With Mike Reinold
In this episode, Arash and Dr. Mike Reinold discuss how Mike began his online journey, physical therapy (where we are & where we are headed), the pro's and con's of social media, and when to embrace vs. improve asymmetries. This is a must listen to for clinicians! Michael M. Reinold, PT, DPT, SCS, ATC, CSCS, C-PS is considered a world-renowned leader in the field of physical therapy, sports medicine, fitness, and sports performance. As a physical therapist, athletic trainer, and certified strength and conditioning specialist, Dr. Reinold has used his expertise in a variety of settings to help people restore, optimize, and enhance their performance. He has most notably worked extensively with a variety of professional athletes from every major sport, with emphasis on the care of throwing injuries in baseball players. Enjoy! The Prehab Guys Guest: Mike Reinold Instagram: @MikeReinold Mike Courses: https://mikereinold.com/products/ Learn more about the Shoulder [P]Rehab Program HERE. Learn more about the Hip [P]Rehab Program HERE. Visit our website: www.theprehabguys.com Follow us on: Instagram | Facebook | Youtube | Twitter Connect with The Prehab Guys info@theprehabguys.com Leave feedback, let us know what to talk about next. Did you enjoy this? Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe.