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Live constitutional conversations and debates featuring leading historians, journalists, scholars, and public officials hosted at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia and across America. To watch National Constitution Center Town Halls live, check out our schedule of upcoming programs at constitutioncenter.org/townhall. Register through Zoom to ask your constitutional questions in the Q&A or watch live on YouTube at YouTube.com/ConstitutionCenter.
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Oct 10, 2023 • 1h
The Forgotten Years of the Civil Rights Movement
Prize-winning historians Kate Masur, author of Until Justice Be Done: America’s First Civil Rights Movement, from the Revolution to Reconstruction, and Dylan Penningroth, author of the new book Before the Movement: The Hidden History of Black Civil Rights, explore the central role of African Americans in the struggle for justice and equality long before the social movement of the 1950s and 1960s. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates.Additional Resources
Kate Masur, Until Justice Be Done: America’s First Civil Rights Movement, from the Revolution to Reconstruction
Dylan Penningroth, Before the Movement: The Hidden History of Black Civil Rights
National Constitution Center Interactive Constitution, Article IV, Section 2: Movement Of Persons Throughout the Union, Privileges and Immunities Clause
National Constitution Center Interactive Constitution,14th Amendment Privileges or Immunities Clause
Dylan Penningroth, The Claims of Kinfolk: African American Property and Community in the Nineteenth-Century South
Kate Masur, An Example for All the Land: Emancipation and the Struggle over Equality in Washington, D.C
Brief of Professors of History and Law as Amici Curia in Support of Respondents
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Oct 3, 2023 • 55min
How to Interpret the Constitution: A Citizen’s Guide
New York Times bestselling author Cass Sunstein unveils his new book, How to Interpret the Constitution—a citizen’s guide to the rival approaches of originalism and living constitutionalism. Sunstein is joined by leading constitutional expert Philip Bobbitt of Columbia Law School to discuss the current controversies surrounding constitutional interpretation and provide their takes on the competing methodologies. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates.Participants
Philip Bobbitt is the Herbert Wechsler Professor of Federal Jurisprudence at Columbia Law School. He is the author of 10 books, including Constitutional Fate; Constitutional Interpretation; and his most recent work is a new edition of the authoritative Impeachment: A Handbook, written in 1974 by Charles Black.
Cass Sunstein is the Robert Walmsley University Professor at Harvard University and the founder and director of the Program on Behavioral Economics and Public Policy at Harvard Law School. He is the author of dozens of books, including the New York Times bestseller Nudge (with Richard H. Thaler); On Freedom; #Republic; and The World According to Star Wars. His newest book is How to Interpret the Constitution.
Additional Resources
Cass Sunstein, How to Interpret the Constitution
Phillip Bobbitt, Constitutional Fate
National Constitution Center's Constitution 101 Activity Guide: Introduction to the Methods of Constitutional Interpretation
National Constitution Center's Constitution 101: Methodologies of Constitutional Interpretation
McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)
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Sep 19, 2023 • 1h 4min
The History of Religious Liberty in America
How did America’s founders view religious liberty? And what does it mean today? Constitutional law experts Marci Hamilton, author of God vs. the Gavel: The Perils of Extreme Religious Liberty, and Michael McConnell, co-author of Agreeing to Disagree: How the Establishment Clause Protects Religious Diversity and Freedom of Conscience, join for a special Constitution Day discussion to celebrate the opening of the Center’s new First Amendment gallery. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates.Resources:
National Constitution Center’s First Amendment gallery
Marci Hamilton, God vs. the Gavel: The Perils of Extreme Religious Liberty (2014)
Marci Hamilton, “‘Warped history’: How the U.S. supreme court justified gutting gay rights,” The Guardian (Aug 23, 2023)
“Prof. Michael McConnell (Stanford) on 303 Creative (the Web Site Designer / Same-Sex Wedding Case),” Volokh Conspiracy (Dec. 2022)
Michael McConnell, Agreeing to Disagree: How the Establishment Clause Protects Religious Diversity and Freedom of Conscience (2023)
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Sep 15, 2023 • 2h 37min
National First Amendment Summit
The National Constitution Center, in partnership with a coalition of leading free speech organizations, is convened a National First Amendment Summit on September 13, 2023 to discuss the increasing threats to freedom of expression and to celebrate the opening of the Center's new First Amendment gallery.This program is presented in partnership with the Freedom Forum, FIRE, the First Amendment Watch at NYU, PEN America, and the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press.Keynote: A Conversation with Salman Rushdie The keynote panel of the event, a conversation with author and free speech advocate Salman Rushdie about the importance of free speech in a democratic society and the forces of censorship that imperil its existence, was moderated by Suzanne Nossel, CEO of PEN America.Panel 1: The Origins of the First Amendment and Its Central Role in DemocracyProbing the origins of the First Amendment and its critical role as a check on the government
Akhil Reed Amar, Sterling Professor of Law and Political Science at Yale University
Jacob Mchangama, founder and CEO of The Future of Free Speech Project; Research Professor at Vanderbilt University
Stephen Solomon, Marjorie Deane Professor of Journalism at New York University; founder of NYU’s First Amendment Watch
Moderator: Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center
Panel 2: The First Amendment in the CourtsExploring the current legal controversies filling the daily headlines—from defamation to book banning to threatening language
Floyd Abrams, senior counsel at Cahill Gordon & Reindel
Jameel Jaffer, executive director of the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University
Lyrissa Lidsky, Raymond & Miriam Ehrlich Chair in U.S. Constitutional Law at Florida Law
Moderator: Bruce Brown, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press
Panel 3: The First Amendment on Campus and OnlineExamining the increasing conflicts involving free speech on campuses and online in an age of social media, artificial intelligence, and other new technologies
Will Creeley, legal director at FIRE, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression
Jeannie Suk Gersen, John H. Watson, Jr., Professor of Law at Harvard Law School
Nadine Strossen, John Marshall Harlan II Professor of Law, Emerita, at New York Law School
Moderator: Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center
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Jul 18, 2023 • 1h 28min
2023 Annual Supreme Court Review
The National Constitution Center and the Anti-Defamation League present an America’s Town Hall featuring legal experts Erwin Chemerinsky, Miguel Estrada, Gregory G. Garre, Frederick M. Lawrence, and Dahlia Lithwick to discuss the most significant decisions of the term, including cases on affirmative action, religious accommodation, social media regulation, voting rights, and more. Journalist Amy Howe moderates. Introductory remarks are provided by Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, and Marjorie Zessar, chair of ADL’s Legal Affairs Committee.This program is presented in partnership with ADL.Additional Resources
ADL, 2023 Supreme Court Review: Written Materials and Resources
Groff v. DeJoy (2023)
303 Creative LLC v. Elenis (2023)
Students for Fair Admissions v. President and Fellows of Harvard College (2023)
Students for Fair Admissions v. University of North Carolina (2023)
Moore v. Harper (2023)
Allen v. Milligan (2023)
Gonzalez v. Google LLC (2023)
Twitter, Inc. v. Taamneh (2023)
Biden v. Nebraska (2023)
Department of Education v. Brown (2023)
Haaland v. Brackeen
National Constitution Center, “The Shadow Docket Debate"
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Jul 11, 2023 • 1h 1min
Montesquieu and the Constitution
Described in The Federalist as “the celebrated Montesquieu,” Charles de Montesquieu was cited more often than any other author from 1760-1800. In what ways did his writings and ideas help shape the U.S. Constitution and the structure of American government? Join William B. Allen of Michigan State University, Thomas Pangle of the University of Texas at Austin, Dennis Rasmussen of Syracuse University, and Diana Schaub of the American Enterprise Institute, for a discussion on the political thought of Montesquieu and his influence on American democracy. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates.Additional Resources
Dennis Rasmussen, Fears of a Setting Sun: The Disillusionment of America's Founders
Diana Schaub, Erotic Liberalism: Women and Revolution in Montesquieu’s Persian Letters
The Federalist Papers
Dennis Rasmussen, The Pragmatic Enlightenment: Recovering the Liberalism of Hume, Smith, Montesquieu, and Voltaire
Thomas Pangle, Montesquieu’s Philosophy of Liberalism: A Commentary on the Spirit of the Laws
Thomas Pangle, The Theological Basis of Liberal Modernity in Montesquieu’s Spirit of the Laws
Montesquieu, The Spirit of the Laws: A Critical Edition, ed. William B. Allen
Montesquieu, The Spirit of the Laws (1748)
Thomas Pangle, “Considerations on the Romans,” in The Cambridge Companion to Montesquieu
Diana Schaub, “Montesquieu on the Liberty of Women," in The Cambridge Companion to Montesquieu
Montesquieu, The Persian Letters (1721)
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Jul 4, 2023 • 58min
The Modern History of Originalism
A panel of libertarian and conservative scholars—J. Joel Alicea of The Catholic University of America Columbus School of Law, Anastasia Boden of the Cato Institute, and Sherif Girgis of Notre Dame Law School—join for an in-depth comparative look at the different strands of originalism as a constitutional methodology. We explore originalism’s modern history and application by current members of the Roberts Court through the examples of recent cases, and how originalism intersects with textualism and other interpretive approaches. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates.Additional Resources
Moore v. Harper (2023)
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen (2023)
Grutter v. Bollinger (2002)
District of Columbia v. Heller (2008)
National Constitution Center, "Second Amendment," Interactive Constitution
Bostock v. Clayton County (2020)
Counterman v. Colorado (2023)
John O. McGinnis and Michael B. Rappaport, Originalism and the Good Constitution
Randy Barnett and Evan Bernick, "The Letter and the Spirit: A Unified Theory of Originalism," Georgetown Law Faculty Publications and Other Works
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Jun 27, 2023 • 60min
Clarence Thomas and the Constitutional Stories that Define Him
Judge Amul Thapar and former Judge Bernice Donald, both of the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, discuss Thapar’s new book, The People’s Justice: Clarence Thomas and the Constitutional Stories that Define Him. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates.Additional Resources
Amul Thapar, The People’s Justice: Clarence Thomas and the Constitutional Stories that Define Him
Kelo v. New London (2005)
Bernice Donald and Don Willett, "How to counter today’s tribalism and build ‘a more perfect union’," The Washington Post
Zelman v. Simmons-Harris (2002)
Grutter v. Bollinger (2003)
Connick v. Thompson (2011)
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Jun 20, 2023 • 1h 1min
Deliberation and Democratic Norms in America
In today’s polarized political climate, how can Americans foster constructive conversations and compromise across the political spectrum to address the nation’s most pressing issues? Ronnie Janoff-Bulman, psychologist and author of The Two Moralities: Conservatives, Liberals, and the Roots of Our Political Divide; Matthew Levendusky, political scientist and author of Our Common Bonds: Using What Americans Share to Help Bridge the Partisan Divide; and Kenji Yoshino, legal scholar and author of Say the Right Thing: How to Talk About Identity, Diversity, and Justice, join for a conversation exploring the roots of America’s political divide, various strategies for overcoming partisan gridlock, and how and why to engage in difficult discussions to secure the future of democracy. Thomas Donnelly, chief content officer at the National Constitution Center, moderates.This program is made possible through the generous support of Citizen Travelers, the nonpartisan civic engagement initiative of Travelers.Additional Resources
Ronnie Janoff-Bulman, The Two Moralities: Conservatives, Liberals, and the Roots of Our Political Divide
Kristen de Groot, “Matthew Levendusky’s Our Common Bonds,” Penn Today
Matthew Levendusky, Our Common Bonds: Using What Americans Share to Help Bridge the Partisan Divide
“Matt Levendusky on Our Common Bonds and Bridging Our Differences,” Annenberg Public Policy Center (2023)
"What is affective polarization?" Politics in Question podcast
Kenji Yoshino and David Glasgow, Say the Right Thing: How to Talk About Identity, Diversity, and Justice
Matthew Yglesias, "The Great Awokening," Vox
Mark Lilla, The Once and Future Liberal: After Identity Politics
Marta Zaraska, "The Genes of Left and Right," Scientific American
Drew Desilver, "The polarization in today’s Congress has roots that go back decades," Pew Research Center
303 Creative LLC v. Elenis
Global Party Survey (2019)
Bruce Ackerman and James Fishkin, Deliberation Day
Andrew Dobson, Listening for Democracy: Recognition, Representation, Reconciliation
Kristie Dotson, "Tracking Epistemic Violence, Tracking Practices of Silencing," Hypatia
Dolly Chugh, The Person You Mean to Be: How Good People Fight Bias
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Jun 13, 2023 • 1h 3min
The State of Free Expression in the U.S. and Abroad
Free-speech advocates Garry Kasparov, former world chess champion, political activist, and chairman of the Renew Democracy Initiative; Evan Mawarire, Zimbabwean pastor, democratic activist, and director of education at the Renew Democracy Initiative; and Suzanne Nossel, CEO of PEN America, discuss the state of free expression in the United States, Russia, Zimbabwe and around the world. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates. This program is presented in partnership with the Renew Democracy Initiative and the Center for Constitutional Design at Arizona State University’s Sandra Day O’Connor College of Law. Additional Resources
An Open Letter on American Democracy from Global Dissidents
“Forgotten Prisoners, Writing for Freedom – Egypt,” Frontlines of Freedom podcast
"Narges Mohammadi, PEN America"
Garry Kasparov, Winter Is Coming: Why Vladimir Putin and the Enemies of the Free World Must Be Stopped
Evan Mawarire, 2023 Commencement Address at the Georgetown School of Foreign Service
Evan Mawarire, “This Flag - A Lament of Zimbabwe”
Kasey Meehan and Jonathan Friedman, “Banned in the USA: State Laws Supercharge Book Suppression in Schools,” PEN America
Suzanne Nossel, Dare to Speak: Defending Free Speech for All
PEN America, Freedom to Write Index 2022
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