

Legally Speaking Podcast
Legally Speaking Podcast™
Inspiring Legal Minds. Transforming Legal Futures.
The Legally Speaking Podcast, sponsored by Clio, inspires, educates and entertains. Think of it as a law library—with better snacks and standout guests.
Hosted by Rob Hanna, legal careers expert, LinkedIn Top Voice and Founder, we interview lawyers, law firm leaders, legal tech pioneers, DEI champions, and even Netflix stars.
Guests explore legal innovation, career growth, AI, wellbeing and redefining success. New episodes every Monday for the main show, with minisodes as well for quick enjoyment.
Tune in now to supercharge your legal career.
The Legally Speaking Podcast, sponsored by Clio, inspires, educates and entertains. Think of it as a law library—with better snacks and standout guests.
Hosted by Rob Hanna, legal careers expert, LinkedIn Top Voice and Founder, we interview lawyers, law firm leaders, legal tech pioneers, DEI champions, and even Netflix stars.
Guests explore legal innovation, career growth, AI, wellbeing and redefining success. New episodes every Monday for the main show, with minisodes as well for quick enjoyment.
Tune in now to supercharge your legal career.
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Oct 6, 2025 • 40min
Behind the Headlines: Child Protection, Legal Leadership & Making a Difference - Amy Clowrey - S9E31
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Amy Clowrey. Amy is a Solictor and the Director of the Child Compensation Team at Switalskis. She is the firm’s Training Principal, responsible for Qualifying Solicitrors, Solicitor Apprentices and Graduate Solitcitor Apprentices. Amy was awarded Lawyer of the Year at the Modern Law Awards 2023 and Rising Star Legal 500 Northern Powerhouse Awards 2024. She is passionate about encouraging and supporting the next generation of lawyers into the legal profession.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Amy discussing:- Amy Clowrey’s Personal And Professional Journey- Implementing Advocacy and Legal Reform- Mental Health in Law and its Importance- Supporting Future Lawyers- Media and Public AdvocacyConnect with Amy Clowrey here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-clowrey/

Oct 2, 2025 • 10min
Legally on the Move: Mercedes World - Penny Mallory - E01
Welcome to a special, brand new mini series of the Legally Speaking Podcast, Legally on the Move: Mercedes world, powered by Clio, the engine driving the future of legal tech and innovation.On our first minisode, we get the chance to talk to Penny Mallory. She is a leading authority on mental toughness, freelance keynote speaker and inspirational figure. Penny has a background in motorsports, having been a rally driver for 12 years and competing at a high level in the World Rally Championship. After her driving career, she became a TV presenter and now focuses on sharing her experiences and insights on mental toughness. She emphasises the importance of embracing change, building resilience, and encouraging innovation within numerous organisations.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Penny discussing:- Penny Mallory’s Motorsport And Speaking Career - The Importance Of Mental Toughness - Embracing Change And Driving Innovation - Building Teams That Embrace New Ideas - Practical Strategies For Developing ResilienceConnect with Penny Mallory here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/pennymallory

Sep 30, 2025 • 29min
LinkedIn Live - Burnout in law: Truths we're afraid to face - and how to change them
🚨 Lawyers aren’t burning out because they’re weak. They’re burning out because the system rewards depletion. Today on the Legally Speaking Podcast ™️ LinkedIn Live, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Sally Clarke, burnout and wellbeing expert, bestselling author, and ex-corporate finance lawyer who’s now helping others avoid the pain she lived through.Here’s what we covered:⚠️ The 3 biggest myths about burnout in the legal world🧠 The “3-Selfs Framework” every lawyer needs to know📊 Insights from the 2025 State of Workplace Burnout report💡 Why leaders must shift from performative wellbeing to true prevention💬 And why “I’m fine” is often the most dangerous phrase in the profession Sally brought the clarity, compassion, and courage this conversation needed.📚 Go grab Protect Your Spark and Relight Your Spark and check out We Are Human Leaders for more.

Sep 29, 2025 • 45min
Crypto, Courts & Career Growth: The Next Generation in Law - Charlotte Hill - S9E30
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Charlotte Hill. Charlotte is a partner at Penningtons Manches Cooper specialising in commercial dispute resolution, financial services regulation, restructuring and insolvency, described as a next generation partner by the Legal 500, Charlotte is passionate about her work in the sector, and has been awarded Women of the Year, FinTech and crypto innovation UK, at the city wealth power, women awards.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Charlotte discussing:- Charlotte Hill’s Career Journey and Path to Partnership- Building Inclusive Law Firm Culture and Supporting the Next Generation- Navigating Crypto, Digital Assets, and Emerging Tech in Legal Practice- Managing Legal Risk and the Role of AI in Litigation- Regulation, Community, and Advice for Aspiring Solicitors in Commercial DisputesConnect with Charlotte Hill here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/charlottehill-litigation

Sep 26, 2025 • 36min
Special Minisode: Mitch Jackson's 7-Step Roadmap to Law Firm Revolution with Centaur Lawyers & AI
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, Mitch Jackson, the award-winning trial lawyer and legal tech advocate, discusses the challenges and opportunities of AI in law firms. He highlights a MIT report indicating 95% of AI projects in large companies fail due to lack of adoption. Mitch outlines seven steps for successful AI implementation: understanding the need, starting small, creating an AI sandbox, scaling impact, ensuring privacy and security, empowering teams, and leveraging AI for efficiency. He emphasises the importance of a new leadership mindset, the "centaur" approach blending human expertise with AI, and the need for law firms to stay ahead in AI adoption to enhance client service and firm efficiency.Tune in to hear Rob and Mitch discuss:- How AI Is a Must for Law Firms Now- Discovering the Power of AI Tools- Keeping Up with Rapid AI Growth- Combining AI with Human Skills- Why You Should Small and Set Smart AI PoliciesConnect With Mitch on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchjackson/Follow his 7-Step Roadmap - https://legallyspeakingpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Seven-Steps-to-Leading-with-AI.pdfMitch’s Latest Book: Leading with AI- Seven Steps to Transform Your Business and Empower Your People - https://mitchjackson.xyz/12/leading-with-ai-seven-steps-to-transform-your-business-and-empower-your-people

Sep 22, 2025 • 41min
Lessons in Leadership, Resilience and Authenticity in Law with Mediator Damien Van Brunschot - S9E28
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Damien Van Brunschot. Damien is the owner and Principal Consultant of EvolveResolve. Leveraging his own expertise in mediation and leadership coaching, he co-founded, led and scaled boutique firm MVM Legal, later Kaden Boriss. Damien is the former Managing Partner of DWF (Australia). From 2020 to 2024, he’s been named by the Doyles guide as one of the best lawyers in Australia, specialising in workers’ compensation and respiratory diseases. Damien is passionate about the legal space and professional services, passing on his expertise to those in the trenches. He also recently launched his own podcast, The Resolution Room.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Damien discussing:- Leadership and Authenticity: Building Trust and Culture- Lessons From Scaling Law Firms: Persistence, Mindset and Strategy- Overcoming Challenges: Wellness, Mindfulness and Resilience- The Value of Coaching and Mentorship For Legal Leaders- Giving Back and Community Involvement: The Importance of GratitudeConnect with Damien Van Brunschot here - https://au.linkedin.com/in/damien-van-brunschot

Sep 19, 2025 • 14min
Special Minisode: The Legally Speaking Podcast Live Lounge - Powered by Lost Rhythms
In this special minisode of the Legally Speaking Podcast, we are joined by DJs Frankie Gioia and Adam Guy (aka Guyza) from Lost Rhythms. They discuss their journey in the music industry, the challenges of balancing demanding careers with their passion for DJing, and their exciting future plans, including upcoming gigs and music releases. This minisode is also a teaser for more exciting things to come for the Live Lounge, which is now a weekly event at the Legally Speaking Podcast.Key Points From the DiscussionHow this collaboration was formed in Ibiza on the Lawyers RetreatLost Rhythms bringing back older tunesHow to balance work and passionDJing: a passion for over 30 yearsHow energy breeds energy in the music sceneFind out more on the official LSP website

Sep 15, 2025 • 49min
Redefining Justice with Top UK Defence Barrister & Leading Counsel Jeremy Dein KC - S9E28
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Jeremy Dein KC. Jeremy is one of the most highly regarded defence counsel in the country, specialising in serious offences including murder, terrorism and organised crime. He has dealt with multiple high-profile cases which have gained significant media attention, as described by chambers and partners. Jeremy is a fighter, and no case is too complex for him. He works tirelessly to ensure the right outcome. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Jeremy discussing:- The Value and Misconceptions of Criminal Defence Work- An Urgent Need for Prison and Sentencing Reform- Technology’s Transformative Impact on Criminal Law- Advancing Diversity and Leadership in the Legal Profession- Passion and Mentorship: The Keys to Legal SuccessConnect with Jeremy Dein KC here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-dein-kc-639385b5

Sep 8, 2025 • 32min
Trust, Tech & Transactions: Why Law Firms Now Use Independent Escrow Agents - Sue Wakefield - S9E27
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I am delighted to be joined by Sue Wakefield. Sue is the Director and Head of Business Development at ZEDRA. She has over 30 years of experience working in the financial service industry, specialising in onshore trust structuring. Sue holds a number of leadership positions and is a member of STEP.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Sue discussing:- Why Independent Escrow Providers Are In High Demand- The Importance of Escrow and Trust During Complex Transactions- Escrow Services Expanding Beyond M&A Into Other Industries- The Impact of Tech, Especially In Identification and Verification- Fixed Fees, Attractive Interest Rates and No Minimum Time RequirementsConnect with Sue here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sue-wakefield-tep-14232725

Sep 6, 2025 • 24min
LinkedIn Live: SuperPower Summit 2025: Tech, Careers & Community at the Black Counsel Forum
SuperPower Summit 2025: Where Law Meets Tech, Careers & Community What happens when you gather 400+ lawyers from across the UK and Europe, add five powerful tracks, and put diversity at the centre of the conversation? You get BCF25: The SuperPower Summit — the flagship event from the Black Counsel Forum. On our latest Legally Speaking Podcast ™️ LinkedIn Live (proudly sponsored by Clio), I was joined by Sharon Thomas, Founder of the Black Counsel Forum, who shared: 🔴 What makes BCF25 unique — and why it matters for the whole legal profession 🔴 Why the Future Tech & AI Track is a game-changer for Black lawyers 🔴 The biggest challenges facing early-career lawyers right now 🔴 How BCF is driving meaningful diversity and inclusion across the sector 🔴 Practical takeaways from the Career Mastery and SuperPower tracks 🔴 How to get involved and secure your place before tickets sell out Two takeaways: ✨ Innovation and inclusion aren’t separate; they fuel each other. ✨ Community is the true SuperPower for building lasting legal careers. 🎟 Don’t miss out, tickets are going fast 👉www.blackcounselforum.com