

Legally Speaking Podcast
Legally Speaking Podcast™
Inspiring Legal Minds. Transforming Legal Futures.
The Legally Speaking Podcast, sponsored by Clio, inspires, educates and entertains. Think of it as a law library—with better snacks and standout guests.
Hosted by Rob Hanna, legal careers expert, LinkedIn Top Voice and Founder, we interview lawyers, law firm leaders, legal tech pioneers, DEI champions, and even Netflix stars.
Guests explore legal innovation, career growth, AI, wellbeing and redefining success. New episodes every Monday for the main show, with minisodes as well for quick enjoyment.
Tune in now to supercharge your legal career.
The Legally Speaking Podcast, sponsored by Clio, inspires, educates and entertains. Think of it as a law library—with better snacks and standout guests.
Hosted by Rob Hanna, legal careers expert, LinkedIn Top Voice and Founder, we interview lawyers, law firm leaders, legal tech pioneers, DEI champions, and even Netflix stars.
Guests explore legal innovation, career growth, AI, wellbeing and redefining success. New episodes every Monday for the main show, with minisodes as well for quick enjoyment.
Tune in now to supercharge your legal career.
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Jan 26, 2026 • 39min
Breaking Ground: How Successful Women Lawyers Build Thriving Practices - Deborah Farone - S10E03
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Deborah Farone. Deborah is an internationally recognised marketing strategist and CEO of Farone Advisors LLC. She advises leading law firms, professional services organisations and executives in Europe, Asia and the US on business development and leadership strategy. Deborah has lectured at top universities, including Cornell Law and NYU. She is also the best-selling author of Best Practices: Marketing and Business Development for Law Firms and recently released her latest book ‘Breaking Ground: How Successful Women Lawyers Build Thriving Practices’. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Deborah discussing:- The Power of Authenticity in Legal Business Development- The Importance of Early Relationship-Building and Networking- Overcoming Unique Challenges for Women in Law- Strengthening Business Development Skills Through Practice and Resilience- Embracing Change: Diversity, Training, and AI in the Legal IndustryConnect with Deborah Farone here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahfarone

Jan 19, 2026 • 47min
Crafting Careers: The Art of Workplace Design & Why it Demands Revolution - Niki Avraam - S10E02
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Niki Avraam. Niki is an employment lawyer and law firm founder. She is also the Head of WORKWELL Europe, leading the transformation of workplace culture across the UK and Europe. With 2 decades’ expertise in law, leadership and culture change, Niki is passionate about preparing people for the future of work. Niki’s mission goes beyond the legal landscape–she believes individuals should have profound satisfaction in their work. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Niki discussing:- The Importance of Embracing Discomfort in the Workplace- Building Invigorated and Engaged Workforces- The Role of Authenticity in Leadership- Operationalising Ownership Culture in Organisations- Unlocking Potential Through Adaptability and LearningConnect with Niki Avraam here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/nikiavraam

Jan 12, 2026 • 46min
Mark Evans of The Law Society of England and Wales on Justice, Legaltech & Wellbeing - S10E01
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Mark Evans. Mark is the president of the Law Society of England and Wales. He is the 181st president, and has more than 28 years of experience in residential, commercial and agricultural property transactions and succession planning. Mark's presidential themes include a professional Fit for the Future, championing our members and supporting solicitor well being. His mission is to promote the excellence, diversity and innovation of the solicitors profession, all whilst upholding the rule of law and access to justice. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Mark discussing:- Shaping the Future: Embracing Innovation and Diversity in Law- Bridging the Gap: Tackling Legal Deserts and Expanding Access to Justice- Strengthening the Profession: Raising the Bar for Legal Education and Training- Prioritising Wellbeing: Transforming Mental Health for Lawyers- Building Community: Connecting the Legal World through Running and Shared Experience Connect with Mark Evans here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mark-evans-57927917

Jan 5, 2026 • 1h 51min
Special Edition: The Best of Season 9 – Highlights from the Top 10 Episodes - S9E44
Welcome back and thank you for being part of the Legally Speaking podcast journey. We appreciate your listening, sharing, showing up, and for sticking with us as this podcast packed its bags and traveled the world. From Dubai to Ibiza, from the Festival of Entrepreneurs to Mercedes world, all the way through to ClioCon 2025 in Boston, Massachusetts. You joined us with every step of the way, and that means everything to us. A massive shout out as well to our incredible sponsor, Clio. backing the show, supporting the vision, and helping make these conversations possible. Coming up right now, as we come to a close with Season 9, we're going to be rolling straight into the snippets from the top 10 episodes of Season 9, bringing you the moment you loved, shared, and replayed the most. And here's the thing, this isn't goodbye, not even close. So don't go anywhere because season 10 is just around the corner. We're coming back bigger, bolder and better than ever. This has been an incredible season. Thanks for joining us on the adventure. Happy New Year and we'll see you very soon.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and his guests discussing:- What Comes Next for Legally Speaking Podcast- Disruptive Legal Career Journeys- Advocating for Clients in Medical Negligence- Leadership and Diversity in Legal Practice- Navigating Sanctions and White Collar Crime- Exploring Private Wealth Law- AI and Legal Technology Trends- Legal Tech Research and Innovation- Entrepreneurial Journeys- Expert Guidance and Advice from Seasoned Veterans in LawStay Tuned here - https://legallyspeakingpodcast.com/

Dec 29, 2025 • 1h 7min
Redefining Legal Careers: Brett Colvin on Building Goodlawyer & the Rise of Fractional Law - S9E43
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Brett Colvin. Brett is the CEO and Co-Founder of Goodlawyer, branded Canada’s most trusted in-house counsel network, Goodlawyer provides cost-effective in-house legal solutions. Goodlawyer has helped over 5,000 businesses and they are just at the start of their venture. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Brett discussing:- Flexible Legal Careers with Goodlawyer- Embracing New Legal Technology- Leadership & Company Culture- Strategic Customer Focus- Community and Brand BuildingConnect with Brett Colvin here - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/brettrcolvin

Dec 22, 2025 • 42min
How Technology Reshapes Law: Practical Guidance from Clio’s Solutions Champion Damien Riehl - S9E42
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Damien Riehl. Damien is a lawyer with experience in litigation, counselling businesses, handling cybersecurity crises and managing intellectual property matters. He has represented Fortune 500 companies, startups and nonprofits. He is also the Solutions Champion at Clio. As a technologist, Damien has spent more than a decade designing and developing AI tools in the legal practice. His goal is to build technology connecting law to the people it serves. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Damien discussing:- AI Transforming Legal Services- Data Quality and Access- Ethical and Practical Impacts of Legal Tech- Intellectual Property in the Age of AI- Alignment of Tech with Human and Legal ValuesConnect with Damien Riehl here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/damienriehl

Dec 15, 2025 • 47min
How to Successfully Make New Boundaries in Law: Marco Imperiale's Formula and Philosophy - S9E41
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Marco Imperiale. Marco is the Founder and Managing Director of Better Ipsum. He graduated with a Master’s from Harvard Law School in 2016. Marco was an entertainment and copyright lawyer, before becoming the Head of Innovation of a leading Italian law firm. Marco now sits as the President of the Wellbeing Committee. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Marco discussing:- The Evolution of Legal Design: Embracing User-Centric Services- Navigating the Intersection of AI and Legal Innovation- The Importance of Flexibility in the Legal Profession- Mental Health and Well-being: A Priority in Law Firms- The Role of Legal Design in Enhancing Access to JusticeConnect with Marco Imperiale here - https://it.linkedin.com/in/marco-imperiale/en

Dec 10, 2025 • 33min
Fair Use in the Copyright Crosshairs: What’s Next for Both
Today’s Legally Speaking Podcast ™️ Live, sponsored by Clio, with Andrew Berger was a masterclass in where copyright law is heading and what’s now at stake for creators, technologists and the courts. Here are a few highlights:🔴 Why courts can’t agree on copyright’s purpose in the AI era🔴 How the four-factor fair use test is under unprecedented pressure🔴 The real significance of the $1.5B Anthropic settlement🔴 Why the next frontier may be “market dilution” as AI content floods the field🔴 Why legislative reform is unlikely, leaving judges to define the boundaries🔴 How history’s big tech shifts compare, and why AI is fundamentally different Two standout messages from Andrew:1️⃣ When AI eats its creative source, that source will stop producing the works copyright is intended to encourage.2️⃣ No other industry gets its raw material from a competitor for nothing.If you missed it, this one is worth watching.

Dec 9, 2025 • 30min
Prompt. Learn. Transform: How AI Is Rewiring the Way Lawyers Work
AI has exploded across the legal industry but for many lawyers, it still feels overwhelming, risky, or simply “not for them.” Today’s guest has made it his mission to change that. Joining us is Robert Eder an intellectual property lawyer, legaltech educator, and one of Europe’s leading voices on AI prompting for lawyers. Robert designs legal automation solutions, and teaches lawyers around the world how to use AI safely, effectively, and creatively. Robert has trained hundreds of lawyers across Europe and is one of the clearest voices on how to use AI responsibly, safely and with real legal precision. Here are a few standout takeaways: Lawyers aren’t bad at prompting they’re undersold. Their analytical mindset actually gives them an advantage. Most people still treat AI like Google. Adding structure through XML tags, roles and answer-levelling changes everything. The first AI skill every lawyer should learn isn’t drafting it’s controlling output. Structure before substance. Hallucinations aren’t a deal-breaker. Responsible AI frameworks give you quality control, not guesswork. You don’t need 70% of AI tools on the market. With the right prompting, one model + the right workflow beats shiny software every time. Legal prompting is not the same as general prompting. Law has edge cases, nuance, and risk your prompts must reflect that. Two general points to reflect on:Lawyers don’t need to become engineers. They need to become better communicators with machines.If you don’t understand prompting, you’ll always think AI is unreliable — when in reality, it’s only as clear as the instructions you give it. It’s practical, hands-on and genuinely career-shifting. AI isn’t replacing lawyers. Lawyers who understand AI are replacing the ones who don’t.

Dec 8, 2025 • 1h 2min
Personalising High Performance in Law: The Athlete Mindset by Certified Coach Grace Williams - S9E40
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Grace Williams. Grace is a Certified Health and Nutrition Coach. A former Whit & Case Associate, she has experienced the high-pressure environments of working at a US law firm. Grace’s mission is to support high-performing individuals, personalised nutrition and lifestyle strategies, all whilst developing their energy, resilience and wellbeing. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Grace discussing:- Elevating Legal Performance Through Well-Being and Resilience- Going From Burnout to Breakthrough with a Path to Sustainable Success- Tailored Strategies for Health: The Next Level of Lawyer Well-Being- Techniques for Staying Resilient in Law- Power Habits and Honest Conversations and Wellness EssentialsConnect with Grace Williams here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/grace-williams-coach


