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Jun 21, 2025 • 12min
253 | The Ingredient for the Law of Abundance
In this episode of The Art of Consulting, Andy Fry explores the transformative concept of the Law of Abundance, challenging the scarcity mindset that often limits our potential. He highlights the universe's boundless resources and emphasizes the need to move beyond beliefs such as "there’s not enough time, money, or opportunities." Through personal stories and actionable strategies, Andy offers guidance on shifting perspectives and embracing abundance as a pathway to success. From identifying how scarcity is used in sales tactics to underscoring the value of creativity and consistent effort, Andy provides practical tools for breaking mental barriers and unlocking hidden opportunities. His message is inspiring yet pragmatic: abundance is real, but achieving it requires belief, intentional action, and the willingness to collaborate. Episode Summary: Understanding the Law of Abundance: The universe provides abundant resources, but scarcity is a mindset that often limits us. Scarcity creates urgency and pressure, often used in sales tactics like "limited time offers" or "only a few left." Shifting the Mindset: Focusing on abundance allows for creative solutions and opportunities. Stress and limitations arise when scarcity dominates your thoughts. Work and Action: While resources are abundant, effort and work are required to access them. Examples include desalinating water from the ocean or mining natural resources. Belief and Creativity: Believing in abundance helps you see opportunities where others see limitations. Creativity plays a key role in defining and pursuing your goals. Personal Stories and Insights: The speaker shares a story about finding money at Legoland and the importance of effort, even when resources seem readily available. They highlight that collaboration and persistence are often necessary to achieve goals. The Takeaway: The law of abundance is not about waiting for things to magically appear but believing that resources exist and working towards them. Visualizing your goals, staying creative, and taking action are essential for success. Episode Highlights: Introduction to the Law of Abundance The Scarcity Mindset in Sales and Daily Life Overcoming Scarcity: A Framework Personal Story: Finding Time Through Belief Personal Story: Discovering Abundance in Unexpected Places Abundance Requires Action and Effort Creativity and Resourcefulness as Keys to Abundance Achieving Greatness Through Collaboration and Hard Work Closing Thoughts: Embrace Abundance

Mar 21, 2025 • 24min
252 | Coffee Is For Closers - Revisited
In this thought-provoking episode of The Art of Consulting podcast, Andy discusses the "50-Minute Focus" technique. Throughout the conversation, he sheds light on critical lessons about identifying productivity pitfalls, the significance of adapting dynamic strategies, and leveraging unconventional approaches to foster successful personal and professional habits. From the transformation of time management techniques to the essential role of prioritizing tasks, Andy offers a treasure trove of insights and practical guidance for consultants seeking to excel in their personal and professional lives. Episode Summary: Introduction and Reflections from 2020 (00:06 - 00:44): The episode begins with a reflection on previous discussions from 2020 and the changes brought on by COVID-19. The Impact of Distractions (00:44 - 01:18): The speaker highlights the constant distraction posed by social media and smartphones, and their effect on productivity. Increased Distractions Over Time (01:18 - 02:00): A discussion on how distractions have become more pervasive over time, despite advancements in app efficiency. Understanding "Coffee is for Closers" (02:01 - 02:34): The speaker explains the phrase "coffee is for closers" employed as a motivational tool in sales. Strategies for Maintaining Productivity (02:34 - 03:15): The speaker shares personal strategies for maintaining productivity, such as task lists and prioritization. The Importance of a Task List (03:15 - 03:50): Emphasizes the role of task lists in proactive work and productivity. Approach to Task Prioritization (03:50 - 04:23): The speaker shares his approach to task prioritization, considering due dates and personal satisfaction. Evaluating and Prioritizing Tasks (04:24 - 04:53): Further explanation on task evaluation and prioritization. Considering Personal Satisfaction in Task Prioritization (04:53 - 05:29): The speaker advises prioritizing tasks that bring personal satisfaction and a sense of accomplishment. Interdependencies in Task Prioritization (05:29 - 06:01): The speaker discusses the role of interdependencies when prioritizing tasks within a team. The Importance of Task Prioritization (06:02 - 06:31): A reiteration of the importance of prioritizing tasks for a productive day. Time Boxing Tasks (06:32 - 07:17): The speaker introduces the concept of time boxing tasks to manage workload and time effectively. Task List Preparation for the Next Day (07:18 - 07:50): Discusses the strategy of preparing a task list for the next day the night before. Concept of Time Boxing (07:51 - 08:29): The speaker discusses the concept of time boxing, a productivity strategy. Benefits of Time Boxing (08:31 - 09:06): Emphasizes the benefits of time boxing in managing tasks and time. Starting With Difficult Tasks (09:07 - 09:43): The speaker advises starting with the most difficult tasks to build momentum and ease into the day. Benefits of Time Boxing (09:44 - 10:17): The benefits of time boxing, particularly in managing unexpected schedule changes, are discussed. Reiterating Importance of Prioritization and Time Boxing (10:17 - 10:52): The speaker reiterates the importance of task prioritization and time boxing. Rewarding Oneself Upon Task Completion (10:53 - 11:37): The speaker emphasizes the importance of rewarding oneself after completing tasks. Tackling Difficult Tasks First (11:37 - 12:22): Discusses the strategy of tackling difficult tasks first to build momentum and reduce stress. Importance of Rewarding Oneself (12:23 - 13:02): A reiteration on the importance of self-reward after task completion. 50-Minute Increments for Larger Tasks (13:02 - 13:37): The speaker shares his strategy of working in 50-minute increments for larger tasks. Benefits of the Speaker's Approach (13:37 - 14:16): Discussion on the personal benefits of the speaker's approach, including better production and momentum. Risk of Burnout (14:18 - 14:55): Highlights the risk of burnout if one does not reward themselves and maintain a healthy work-life balance. Early Requests for Collaboration (14:56 - 15:28): The speaker discusses the importance of initiating collaborative requests early in the day. 50-Minute Increments for Larger Tasks (15:30 - 16:16): Reiteration of the strategy of breaking up larger tasks into 50-minute increments. Benefits of the Speaker's Strategies (16:17 - 16:58): The speaker emphasizes the benefits of his strategies, including increased productivity and improved personal life. Early Requests for Collaboration (16:59 - 17:28): A reiteration of the importance of sending tasks or requests to colleagues early in the day. Nightly To-Do List Preparation (17:29 - 18:07): The speaker recommends preparing a to-do list the night before for a productive start to the day. Early Morning Collaboration Requests (18:08 - 18:40): Discusses the benefits of sending collaborative requests first thing in the morning. 50-Minute Increment Time Boxing (18:40 - 19:11): The speaker re-emphasizes the concept of time boxing tasks into 50-minute increments. Benefits of the Speaker's Strategies (19:12 - 19:45): Reiterates the benefits of the speaker's strategies, including better productivity and momentum. Benefits of Task Management Strategies (19:46 - 20:23): The speaker reiterates the benefits of his task management strategies, including better productivity and momentum. Using 50-Minute Increments for Studying (20:23 - 21:04): Shares personal experience of using the 50-minute increment approach while studying for a certification. Importance of Rewarding Oneself (21:05 - 21:39): Reiterates the importance of rewarding oneself after completing tasks. Maintaining Momentum and Avoiding Burnout (21:40 - 22:47): Emphasizes the importance of maintaining momentum and taking adequate breaks to avoid burnout. Benefits of the Speaker's Strategies (22:47 - 23:32): The speaker discusses how his strategies have helped him stay productive and manage his workload. Benefits of the Speaker's Approach (23:32 - 24:06): The speaker emphasizes the benefits of his approach, including better productivity and momentum. Benefits of the Speaker's Approach (24:07 - 24:43): Reiterates the benefits of the speaker's approach, including better productivity and momentum. Reflection on Strategies for a Productive Week (24:44 - 25:29): The speaker reflects on how his strategies have contributed to his productivity and satisfaction during the week. Conclusion and Look Ahead (25:29 - 25:51): The speaker concludes the episode by encouraging listeners to implement his strategies and looks forward to future discussions. Episode Highlights: (00:06 - 00:44): The speaker reflects on changes brought on by COVID-19. (00:44 - 01:18): The speaker discusses the impact of social media and smartphones on productivity. (02:01 - 02:34): An explanation of the motivational phrase "coffee is for closers" is provided. (02:34 - 03:15): The speaker shares his strategies for maintaining productivity, such as task lists and prioritization. (03:50 - 04:23): The speaker's approach to task prioritization based on due dates and personal satisfaction is discussed. (04:53 - 05:29): The importance of personal satisfaction in task prioritization is highlighted. (06:32 - 07:17): The speaker introduces time boxing as a strategy to manage workload and time. (07:18 - 07:50): The speaker emphasizes the importance of preparing a task list for the next day. (08:31 - 09:06): The benefits of time boxing in managing tasks and time are discussed. (10:53 - 11:37): The speaker emphasizes the importance of rewarding oneself after task completion. (13:02 - 13:37): The speaker shares his strategy of breaking up larger tasks into 50-minute increments. (14:18 - 14:55): The speaker highlights the risk of burnout if one does not reward themselves and maintain a work-life balance. (14:56 - 15:28): The importance of initiating collaborative requests early in the day is discussed. (16:17 - 16:58): The speaker emphasizes the benefits of his strategies, including better productivity. (17:29 - 18:07): The speaker recommends preparing a to-do list the night before to kickstart a productive day. (19:46 - 20:23): The speaker reiterates the benefits of his task management strategies. (20:23 - 21:04): The speaker shares his experience of using the 50-minute increment approach for studying. (21:40 - 22:47): The importance of maintaining momentum and taking breaks to avoid burnout is emphasized. (24:44 - 25:29): The speaker reflects on how his strategies have contributed to a productive week. (25:29 - 25:51): The speaker concludes the episode by encouraging listeners to implement his strategies.

Mar 14, 2025 • 48min
251 | How to Deal with Communication Challenges
Andy shares his thoughts on how to keep communication on track.

Mar 7, 2025 • 21min
250 | How to Prepare for a Geo-Political Event
In this episode Andy discusses steps you can take to deal with and preprare for potential Geo Political events.

Nov 9, 2024 • 43min
249 | Unmasking Corporate Fraud and Cybersecurity: Real Stories and Practical Tips with Stephanie Forbes
In this compelling episode of The Art of Consulting podcast, Stephanie Forbes brings her expertise to the table, discussing the prevalent and often sophisticated issue of corporate fraud and cybersecurity. Throughout the conversation, we navigate the different ways in which fraud can occur within an organization, the impacts it can have, and the steps that can be taken to prevent it. From harrowing stories of payroll fraud to the intricacies of implementing governance models, Stephanie provides actionable insights to secure the financial and informational assets of companies. Episode Summary: [00:00-01:05] Introduction: Hosts recap previous discussions and introduce today’s focus on how funds may be fraudulently siphoned from organizations. [01:06-02:41] Stephanie Forbes on Payroll Fraud: Forbes shares insights on payroll vulnerabilities and fraud risks. [02:42-03:35] Payroll Fraud Case Study: Example of payroll fraud involving fictitious employees under a single manager. [03:36-05:11] Sophisticated Fraud Techniques: Discussion of fraud types, including wire fraud, and their significant impact. [05:12-07:20] Cybersecurity Incidents: Forbes recounts a cyber breach resulting in company system loss. [07:21-12:47] Cloud System Risks: Exploring cloud access risks and keychain security vulnerabilities. [12:48-18:05] Cyberattack Recovery: Strategies for recovery, backup importance, and governance frameworks. [18:06-21:16] SMB Cybersecurity Tips: Affordable, effective cybersecurity practices for small to medium businesses. [21:17-29:00] Final Tips: Emphasis on advanced authentication and data protection strategies. Catch Stephanie next at The P-World Conference in Toronto December 4th.Click here for more info https://thepworld.com/event/the-supply-chain-summit Episode Highlights: [01:06] Money Leak Channels: Forbes agrees with the host on limited money outflow channels and details fraud-prone areas. [01:19] Payroll and Procure-to-Pay Systems: Identified as high-risk zones for fraud, with a reference to a 2023 fraud report. [02:42] Payroll Fraud Example: Case where one individual received 74 checks, linked to a manager's scheme. [03:36] Fraud Complexity: Forbes describes another fraud instance involving last-minute bank account changes. [06:21] Cybersecurity Focus: A real-world case where a company lost cloud control due to a cyberattack. [07:21] Cloud Security Explained: Forbes clarifies cloud risks, including hackers gaining access to a company’s keychain. [12:48] Cyberattack Recovery: Importance of offsite backups and system restoration strategies. [18:06] Governance Models: Forbes advocates for governance models covering people, processes, and technology to defend against fraud. [21:17] SMB Cybersecurity Advice: Tips on cybersecurity insurance and routine data backups for small and medium businesses. [29:01] Final Insights: Forbes calls for barriers between cloud and operational systems and highlights authentication protocol needs. About Our Guest: Stephanie Forbes is a seasoned executive with over two decades in business, risk management, and supply chain. Her extensive experience has driven high-profile projects across the energy and construction sectors. As interim vice chair of Supply Chain Canada, Alberta Institute, Forbes actively supports supply chain development, with expertise in governance and supplier lifecycle management. Where to Find Our Guest Online: LinkedIn – Stephanie Forbes: linkedin.com/in/calgaryforbes Website – The Forbes Group

Nov 2, 2024 • 40min
248 | Decoding Consulting Secrets: The Art of Knowledge Transfer
In this episode of The Art of Consulting podcast, hosts Andy and Cat reunite for a rare “together episode” discussing the nuances and importance of knowledge transfer in the consulting space. As consultants from various fields, they explore the idea of consulting as a temporary yet impactful role, emphasizing the value of effectively transitioning their knowledge to clients and the critical role of documentation and interpersonal skills in a consultant’s success. Episode Summary: [00:05] Andy and Cat kick off a special co-hosted episode, reflecting on their individual expert interviews and the rarity of their joint episodes these days. [00:38] They talk about their intense collaboration periods in the past, contrasting it with their recent individual projects. [00:46] Core Topic: The transfer of knowledge. They highlight the paradox of good consultants—working themselves out of a job—while maintaining strong client relationships, with clients often returning for help with new challenges. [01:37] They discuss the necessity of identifying a key person within the client's organization for knowledge transfer, ensuring smooth operations post-consultancy. [04:36] Discussion on the optimal timing for identifying a successor at the client site, stressing the importance of involving them from the start of the project. [06:46] Andy expresses concern about clients deferring knowledge transfer until after go-live, leading to gaps in understanding key project decisions. [10:47] The conversation shifts to the importance of moving from people-centric to system-centric operations and the risks of not having redundancy in organizational knowledge. [14:48] Andy and Cat discuss transferring not only technical knowledge but also the interpersonal skills and sensitivities critical to successful consulting. [16:55] They emphasize the need for user-friendly tools to document technical knowledge and the tact needed to convey information about team dynamics. [22:34] They provide an action plan for listeners on how to approach knowledge transfer. They advise identifying primary and secondary successors, choosing a starting point, using effective documentation tools, and considering the human aspect of knowledge transfer. [39:20] The episode closes by affirming the value of human relationships in the consulting process. Episode Highlights: [00:05] – Introduction: Andy and Cat discuss the rarity of co-hosting due to their individual interviews with experts. [00:38] – Reflection on past episodes and the evolution of their interactions. [00:46] – Consultant’s Paradox: Good consultants work to make themselves unnecessary while maintaining client relationships. [01:37] – Key Individual for Knowledge Transfer: The importance of identifying a key person within the client's organization. [04:36] – Timing of Knowledge Transfer: Optimal timing for selecting the right person for knowledge transfer. [06:46] – Continuity Concerns: Issues with waiting until post go-live for knowledge transfer. [10:47] – Shift to System-Centric Operations: Importance of having redundancy in organizational knowledge. [14:48] – Comprehensive Knowledge Transfer: Technical and soft skills are equally important. [16:55] – User-Friendly Documentation Tools: Creating effective documentation for knowledge transfer. [22:34] – Action Plan for Listeners: Steps to approach knowledge transfer in consulting. [39:20] – Conclusion: The human aspect remains central to consulting work. About the Hosts: Andy and Cat are seasoned consultants with a passion for sharing their insights and experiences. They specialize in guiding organizations and individuals through complex projects, advocating for knowledge transfer to ensure sustained excellence and growth. For listeners looking to enhance their consulting skills or gain insights into the art of knowledge transfer, this episode offers valuable strategies and field anecdotes. Join Andy and Cat as they unravel the complexities and rewards of consulting, where imparting knowledge is essential for success.

Oct 19, 2024 • 54min
247 | Building Out an Expert Position in Consulting - with Mark Amtower
Mark Amtower, founder of Amtower & Company, shares his nearly four decades of experience in government marketing. He discusses the importance of specialization over broad knowledge for consultants and the unique challenges of navigating federal contracts. Mark also emphasizes adapting marketing strategies in a post-pandemic world, leveraging digital platforms, and maximizing LinkedIn for professional growth. His insights on building relationships and recognizing all roles within organizations highlight the nuances of successful consulting.

Oct 12, 2024 • 48min
246 | The Gift of Recurring Thought - with Katie Weldon
In this insightful episode of The Art of Consulting podcast, we're joined by Coach Katie, also known as Katie Weldon, who not only excels as a business mentor and mindset coach but also shines in the real estate world as Katie the Mortgage Lady. With a rich history of bold decisions and transformative life changes, Katie opens up about her journey and the pivotal moments that led her to adopt a life-changing mindset. 00:13 - Introduction: We welcome Coach Katie to the show, discussing her multifaceted career and the courageous choices that have defined her path, from a drastic relocation to powerful personal developments. 00:59 - Life-Altering Decisions: Katie reflects on the significant decisions she's made, including a spontaneous move, medication changes, and notably, her choice to stop drinking—a frequent habit that pervaded her social and professional life. 02:50 - Intuition and Identity: A keynote moment at a Hay House conference triggers Katie's intuition, leading her to a decision that would not only alter her habits but challenge her identity. She narrates the process of facing and embracing her true self without alcohol. 05:34 - The Extrovert's Challenge: Katie discusses the surprising nervousness that comes with being an extrovert and the reliance on alcohol for social courage. She reveals the journey of redefining her social strategies and relationships in the absence of her previous crutch. 09:57 - Intuition's Role in Personal Change: The conversation shifts to the power of intuition, how it guided Katie's life choices, and the importance of acting upon these persistent inner calls for the sake of growth and alignment with one's true self. 15:19 - Dealing with Fear and Change: Katie and the host delve into the natural fear associated with change, the significance of being true to oneself, and the strength required to walk through uncertainty while reshaping one's identity. 22:48 - Acting on Intuitive Messages: We explore how vital it is to acknowledge and act on intuitive messages, recognizing the impact of those decisions on personal well-being and how they can manifest in unexpected and profound ways. 31:58 - Filling the Void with Positivity: Finally, Katie emphasizes the importance of consciously choosing what to fill the void with when removing a habit or element from one's life, ensuring it contributes positively to one's journey towards a fulfilling life. Episode Highlights: 00:13 - Introduction to Coach Katie Weldon, a business mentor, mindset coach, and also known as Katie the Mortgage Lady in the real estate industry. 00:59 - Katie shares her story of making life-altering decisions, including moving from Massachusetts to Florida, getting off medications, and her significant decision to stop drinking. 05:34 - Discussion on introverts, extroverts, and the surprising shyness extroverts can experience. Katie talks about the role of alcohol in social settings and her journey to navigate social interactions without it. 09:57 - The critical role of intuition in personal change and the importance of listening to those persistent internal messages that guide life choices. 15:19 - How fear and change can challenge one's identity, and the importance of staying true to oneself through the uncertainty of transformative periods. 22:48 - The necessity of acknowledging and acting upon intuitive messages for personal well-being and the profound impact these decisions can have. 31:58 - Katie emphasizes the importance of filling the void with positive actions and choices when removing a habit or element from one's life. About Our Guest: Katie Weldon is an entrepreneur combining her talents as a business mentor, mindset coach, and successful figure in the real estate industry. With a history of unabashed decisions leading to personal rediscovery, Katie inspires through her journey and passion for helping others find balance and success in both business and life. Where to Find Our Guest Online: For more on Katie Weldon's work and to connect, visit: Website: www.katieweldon.comFacebook and Instagram: @Katiesimpsonweldon Facebook Group: KatieKollective

Oct 5, 2024 • 38min
245 | Wired Wisdom: Unraveling the Mysteries of Procurement Fraud with Stephanie Forbes Part 2
Join us in a riveting discussion with Stephanie Forbes, a value chain virtuoso with more than two decades of experience overseeing multi-billion dollar projects. Serving as the interim vice chair of Supply Chain Canada, Alberta Institute, she is frequently sought out for her wealth of knowledge in the supply chain realm. In this episode, Stephanie delves into the complexities of procurement fraud, elucidating its various forms and imparting crucial strategies for preventing such deceptive practices within organizations. 00:13 - Introduction: Kat introduces Stephanie Forbes, an esteemed value chain expert renowned for her contributions to the field and her tenure in steering significant projects throughout Canada and the United States. 00:56 - Stephanie's Professional Background: The spotlight is on Stephanie's instrumental role in advancing the Supply Chain Excellence Forum and her collaboration with prominent entities like Shell and Chevron, reflecting her dedication to solving complex issues and building best-in-class governance models. 01:40 - Navigating the Topic of Fraud: Today's enlightening conversation ventures into the pressing issue of fraud within the supply chain ecosystem, with Stephanie emphasizing the criticality of understanding the different facets that contribute to vendor-related fraud and illicit cash flow activities. 02:22 - What is Procurement Fraud?: Stephanie lays down a clear definition of procurement fraud, highlighting the element of criminal deception in the procurement process, which aims for personal or organizational financial gain. 03:29 - Exploring Various Fraud Types: We dive deep into the murky waters of procurement fraud, discussing specifics like employee-contractor collusion and bribery, and how such practices circumvent fair processes and inflate organizational costs. 06:53 - The Mechanisms of Bid Rigging: Stephanie offers a breakdown of bid rigging, conflicts of interest, and the preventative measures that organizations can implement to safeguard against such deceptive activities. 08:22 - The Perils of Product Substitution: The conversation shifts to the significant risks associated with product substitution, particularly in sensitive sectors like oil and gas, underscoring the potential dangers and the importance of rigorous quality assurance. 09:55 - The Role of Quality Control and ERP Systems: The episode highlights the vital role of quality control measures and how ERP systems play an integral part in preserving compliance data and preventing procurement fraud. 13:05 - The Advantages of a Vertically Integrated Supply Chain: Stephanie speaks to the benefits of vertical integration in a supply chain, detailing how it can enhance predictability and control, while lowering overall risk. 16:23 - Tales of Fraudulent Activities: We hear chilling real-world accounts of fraud, including a case study of an employee's manipulation of ERP data leading to a significant financial loss for their company. 26:12 - Pinpointing Vulnerabilities and Remedies: The episode concludes with discussions on identifying weak spots in corporate processes susceptible to fraud and the measures that can be taken to train employees on recognizing and preventing these issues. About Our Guest Today: Stephanie Forbes is a seasoned executive with over two decades of experience in business, risk management, and supply chain, primarily within the energy and construction sectors. Her leadership has driven successful transformations in teams, projects, and programs. She is committed to advancing the supply chain profession by creating value for stakeholders through speaking engagements, mentoring, and leveraging her extensive network. Stephanie’s achievements include implementing best-in-class programs such as full life cycle governance and supplier life cycle management. Eager for new opportunities, she is motivated to make significant contributions to the energy and construction industries, as well as the field of supply chain management. Episode Highlights: 00:13 - Introduction to Stephanie Forbes: Stephanie is introduced as a highly experienced value chain expert and interim vice chair of Supply Chain Canada, Alberta Institute. 00:56 - Stephanie's Influence on the Supply Chain Industry: Her work with major North American organizations and contributions to the Supply Chain Excellence Forum are highlighted. 01:40 - Fraud in the Supply Chain: The conversation turns to how fraud can impact organizations and the need for awareness of various fraud types in the procurement process. 02:22 - Defining Procurement Fraud: Stephanie provides a definition of procurement fraud, emphasizing deception in acquiring goods or services. 03:29 - Types of Procurement Fraud: The discussion delves into different types of procurement fraud, including employee-contractor collusion, and its consequences. 06:53 - Preventing Bid Rigging and Conflicts of Interest: Stephanie discusses how organizations can mitigate the risk of bid rigging and conflicts of interest within procurement processes. 08:22 - The Dangers of Product Substitution: The risks associated with product substitution in critical industries are examined. 09:55 - Quality Control and ERP Systems: The importance of quality control and the role of ERP systems in upholding data compliance is explored. 13:05 - The Value of Vertical Integration: Stephanie speaks on how vertical integration can enhance predictability and reduce risks within supply chains. 16:23 - Real Cases of Fraud: A story is shared about an employee manipulating ERP system data to commit a multi-million-dollar fraud. 26:12 - Preventative Measures and Training: Strategies for fraud prevention, the importance of process reviews, and employee education are discussed. Where to Find Our Guest Online: LinkedIn - Stephanie Forbes: http://linkedin.com/in/calgaryforbes

Sep 27, 2024 • 34min
244 | Wired Wisdom: Unraveling the Mysteries of Procurement Fraud with Stephanie Forbes Part 1
Welcome to a new episode of the Art of Consulting podcast, where we engage in deep discussions with some of the most knowledgeable and insightful professionals in the business world. Today, we are privileged to welcome Ms. Stephanie Forbes back to the show. Recognized as a national expert in value chain management, Stephanie brings over two decades of experience managing multi-billion dollar projects throughout Canada and the United States. Currently serving as interim vice chair of Supply Chain Canada, Alberta Institute, Stephanie is frequently sought after for her expertise and is known for her impact on the industry through her roles in leading panels, webinars, and podcasts, and as an international speaker. In this episode, Stephanie enlightens us on the complex and pressing issue of procurement fraud in the supply chain space. She shares her wealth of knowledge on the types of fraud organizations might encounter, the effects of such illegal acts, and the crucial steps necessary to prevent them. Prepare for an in-depth look at the importance of governance models, complex problem-solving, and the nuances of fraud prevention within the supply chain. 00:13 Introduction: We introduce Ms. Stephanie Forbes, a value chain expert with extensive experience in leading significant projects across North America. Her involvement with Supply Chain Canada and her reputation as an international speaker set the tone for our discussion on procurement fraud. 00:56 Stephanie's Vast Experience: Stephanie's rich background includes the creation of the Supply Chain Excellence Forum and her work with some of the largest organizations in North America. Her passion for complex problem-solving has made her an authoritative voice in the industry. 01:40 The Issue of Fraud in Supply Chains: We dive into the significant problem of fraud within supply chains, particularly its relation to ERP systems, and Stephanie's encounters with companies that fraudulent activities have victimized. 02:48 What Is Procurement Fraud?: Stephanie offers a precise definition of procurement fraud and discusses its impact on organizations, providing a foundation for further exploration of the subject. 03:29 Types of Procurement Fraud: Detailed explanation of various forms of procurement fraud, including employee collusion, bribery, conflicts of interest, bid rigging, and product substitution, shedding light on their intricacies and consequences. 05:29 The Case of Data Manipulation and Fraud: Stephanie shares a real-life example of data manipulation that led to a $9 million financial loss, emphasizing the need for stringent data management and control measures to prevent such fraud. 14:54 The Role of ERP Systems: The conversation turns to how Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) systems can play a crucial role in maintaining compliance data and acting as a deterrent against fraud. 22:43 Lessons Learned from Fraud Cases: Stephanie emphasizes the importance of being open about instances of fraud, sharing lessons learned, and implementing continuous education and robust auditing processes to mitigate future risks. 31:58 Importance of Training in Fraud Prevention: The discussion highlights the significance of training staff, sharing information on fraud occurrences, and encouraging a culture of continuous learning to prevent fraudulent activities. Episode Highlights: 00:13 - Introducing the expertise and contributions of Stephanie Forbes in the supply chain management sector. 05:29 - Insights into the complex world of procurement fraud and the real consequences for organizations. 14:54 - Discussing the preventative measures and governance that can be put in place to combat fraud within companies. 31:58 - The importance of employee education and transparent communication in preventing and addressing fraud. About Our Guest: Stephanie Forbes is a seasoned executive adept in business, risk management, and supply chain disciplines. She has driven transformation within teams, projects, and programs in the energy and construction sectors, leaving a lasting impact. Stephanie is dedicated to advancing the supply chain profession, creating value through her speaking engagements, mentorship, and network. Her achievements include implementing best-in-class programs like full life cycle governance and supplier life cycle management. With an eye toward future opportunities, Stephanie is driven to contribute significantly to her industry and the field of supply chain management. Where to Find Our Guest Online: LinkedIn - Stephanie Forbes: http://linkedin.com/in/calgaryforbes