
Leadermorphosis
Leadermorphosis is a podcast exploring the emerging world of self-managing teams and progressive organisations. Hosted by Lisa Gill, who was named on the Thinkers50 Radar 2020 list, each episode features a guest thought leader or practitioner offering a unique perspective on new and innovative ways of working.
"Turning self-managed teams from a good idea into reality is a big challenge and Lisa Gill is leading the way in making it happen.”
– Thinkers50
Leadermorphosis is powered by Tuff Leadership Training, a team of consultants and coaches who specialise in transformational leadership training, shifting working climates and supporting organisations to become self-managing.
Latest episodes

Mar 10, 2020 • 45min
Ep. 45 Amy Edmondson on psychological safety and the future of work
Amy Edmondson is the Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at Harvard Business School and the author of “Teaming” and “The Fearless Organisation”. We talk about her journey of researching psychological safety and teaming, as well as the paper she co-wrote about self-managing organisations. Amy shares insightful and practical lessons about leadership, how to be a good team member, and the future of work. How to follow Amy: Twitter: @AmyCEdmondson Resources: Amy’s profile on the HBS page including her work “Self-Managing Organizations: Exploring the Limits of Less Hierarchical Organizing” – Amy Edmondon and Michael Y. Lee’s research paper See also the episode with Michael Y. Lee to hear more about the research he and Amy published about self-managing organisations

Feb 20, 2020 • 53min
Ep. 44 Vivek Menon on ambidextrous organisations
Vivek Menon leads a high growth business unit at Danfoss Power Solutions called eSteering. Their purpose is to build the future steering solutions for off road vehicles. He shares how eSteering works without managers and why he thinks the future of organisations, especially large ones, is building the capacity to be ambidextrous – creating ecosystems where traditionally structured and decentralised teams or units can coexist. Vivek believes there are three components to develop when it comes to self-management: structures, processes, and mindset and behaviours. How to follow Vivek: Twitter: @Menon_Viv Resources: Vivek’s LinkedIn blogs on self-managed teams the eSteering Danfoss way, and how they work without managers An article about eSteering working without managers on the Danfoss website Videos about eSteering’s “why”, structures, processes, and mindsets

Feb 14, 2020 • 58min
Ep. 43 Bonnitta Roy on sensemaking and open, participatory organisations
Bonnitta Roy is an author, trainer and creator of the OPO (Open Participatory Organisation), which is a framework people are using to experiment with more collaborative ways of working. She is well-loved in the world of Agile for her approaches to complexity and thinking about human systems. Bonnitta shares examples from her work of moves we can make towards more open and participatory organisations. How to follow Bonnitta: Twitter: @bonnittaroy Resources: The OPO Manifesto You can preview Bonnitta’s upcoming book, Our Future at Work, at Medium

Feb 3, 2020 • 40min
Ep. 42 Ved Krishna on self-management in an Indian paper factory
Ved Krishna is Strategy Head at Yash Pakka, a compostable tableware manufacturer based in Faizabad, India that has been experimenting with organisational self-management since 1999. Ved talks with a lot of heart and honesty about his journey of taking over the family business, then firing himself as CEO and now working from a place of deeper purpose. He also shares the ups and downs of trying to develop self-management in a culture where hierarchy is very strongly ingrained. How to follow Ved: Twitter: @ved_krish Resources: Ved’s TEDx talk Chuk website and Yash Papers website Susan Basterfield’s LinkedIn blog about Yash Jingle Bell school website

Dec 15, 2019 • 54min
Ep. 41 Michael Y. Lee on lessons from researching self-managing organisations
Michael Y. Lee is an Assistant Professor of Organisational Behaviour at INSEAD who researches novel and innovative ways of organising. After reading the paper he co-authored with Amy Edmondson on self-managing organisations, I wanted to talk to him to get his academic perspective on this phenomena. He shares what we can learn from self-managing organisations about leadership and how to collaborate in a more decentralised way without sacrificing coordination. We also discuss his research into the two key mechanisms that helped foster positive relational dynamics in a global distributed team. How to follow Michael: Twitter: @yanche Resources: “Self-Managing Organizations: Exploring the Limits of Less Hierarchical Organizing” – Michael and Amy Edmondon’s research paper Michael’s website, featuring his key research

Nov 6, 2019 • 53min
Ep. 40 Bryan Ungard on Decurion and Deliberately Developmental Organisations
Bryan Ungard is the Chief Purpose Officer at Decurion. Decurion is a parent company of a number of businesses, including movie theatres, real estate and senior living, but it's less famous for what it does and more for why and how it does it (as featured in the book “An Everyone Culture”). We talk about Deliberately Developmental Organisations, Bryan’s thoughts on why feedback can be dangerous, what he makes of the trend towards self-managing organisations, and how we can help our organisations become more conscious. How to follow Bryan: Twitter: @ungard Resources: The book “An Everyone Culture” Decurion’s website Carol Sanford’s website (author of “No More Feedback” and “The Regenerative Business”)

Oct 14, 2019 • 54min
Ep. 39 Beetroot’s founders on purpose, self-management, and shocking people with trust
Andreas Flodström and Gustav Henman are the founders of Beetroot, a remarkable IT company set up in 2012 to create social impact in Ukraine. We talk about how culture has played an important role in their self-managed way of organising, the challenges of scaling (from 380 to 1000+ in the next four years), and the tough leadership lessons they’ve learned as founders as the company has grown. Follow Beetroot: Twitter: @beetroot_se Resources: The Beetroot website A blog I wrote for the Corporate Rebels about Beetroot

Sep 30, 2019 • 52min
Ep. 38 Meg Lightheart on leadership, diversity and mindsets for self-management
Meg Lightheart is a leadership and presentation coach and helps organisations become more inclusive and agile. Meg shares what she’s learned from her research, work, and her own personal experiences as a trans woman about topics like leadership, adult development, and diversity, equity and inclusion. It’s an insightful and thoughtful conversation full of humour and heart. Follow Meg: Twitter: @megalightheart Resources: Meg’s website Book: In Over Our Heads: The Mental Demands of Modern Life by Robert Kegan Book: Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge Article: Seven Transformations of Leadership by David Rooke and Bill Torbert Theory U levels of listening

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Sep 16, 2019 • 48min
Ep. 37 Miki Kashtan on the three shifts needed for self-managing organisations to thrive
Miki Kashtan is an author and an international teacher and practitioner of Nonviolent Communication. In this conversation we talk about the three different places shifts need to occur in order for a self-managing human system to thrive, and how we can start to talk about needs more in order to awaken the collective responsibility of groups of people working together. She also shares the five core systems we need to redesign in our organisations as well as the mindset shifts and dialogue skills we need to develop in order to collaborate on a deeper, more purposeful level. Resources: Miki’s website, The Fearless Heart Aligning systems with purpose and values (distinguishes the five core systems) on the Center for Efficient Collaboration website For learning more about nonviolent communication: The Center for Nonviolent Communication website

Sep 3, 2019 • 43min
Ep. 36 Manuel Küblböck on models for self-organisation at Gini
Manuel Küblböck is an org design and transformation coach at German fintech company Gini. We talk about the models Gini has developed for self-organisation and how they have defined together terms like power, hierarchy, and autonomy. He also shares challenges like how to foster leadership in a self-organising company, how to make decisions effectively together and how to develop healthy relationships within the team. How to follow Manuel: Twitter: @ManuelKublbock Resources: Manuel’s blogs: “How we lead in a self-organised company” “How we make decentralised decisions” “Why we treat employees like adults”
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