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Jun 6, 2025 • 1h 57min

George Wiseman – Hydrogen The Missing Key To Your Health!

Check out all my individual health protocols here >> ANNOUNCEMENT: SUPPLEMENTS TO HELP REPAIR MITOCHONDRIA TO REDUCE OXIDATION & MAKE ATP Dissolve-It-All – breaking down scar tissue, inflammation and calcification PUFA Protect – Eliminating a lifetime of a high PUFA diet Purely K – Reduce Calcification NAD Power – Allow Your Mitochondria To Create Energy! Probiotic Endotoxin Reducer – Lower Endotoxins! Oyster Extract – Bioavailable Copper, Selenium & Zinc Resilien-C – Whole Food Vitamin C Panacea – Pure Shilijit 84 Minerals + Chelate Iron Digest-it-All – Better assimilate & absorb your food Use discount code EHR15 🙂 If you’re looking for the Elliot Hulse show notes click hereIf you’d like to purchase an Aquacure hydrogen and Brown’s gas device, we negotiated a 10% discount for you! Use code EHR10 on: https://eagle-research.com/product/ac50/ Today George Wiseman joined us to talk about the power of hydrogen gas and how it can radically turn around your health. Did you know that hydrogen is much smaller than vitamin C? Because of its incredibly small particle size, it has the ability to go ANYWHERE in the body. It can go places nothing else can go! This means it can be used in a variety of ways for a multitude of health challenges! It only comes down to your creativity in terms of application for specific purposes. I absolutely love sharing new ideas, protocols and technologies with you that puts power back into your court where you have complete control over your own healing! This is very powerful. We don’t have to wait for a vaccine or some pharmaceutical drug to help us “heal” from anything. We can take charge of our health right now, in our home and at our convenience! The power to heal really is yours. Hydrogen gas inhalation as Brown’s gas is an incredible way to help you retain and improve your health over time rather than letting the aging process slowly degrade your physical body! I hope you enjoy this show with Mr. George Wiseman about hydrogen and Brown’s gas for our health! Please share with your friends will you? 🙂 On Last Thing! As always your support via your donations and bookmarking our Amazon link to use each time you purchase is how we keep our show going. Thank you for bookmarking our Amazon link even if you’re not buying anything right now! 🙂 Thank you all! Sponsors For This Episode: Extreme Health Academy Use code EHR14 for a free 2 week trial! Colostrum (Use Code WERIMMUNE for 20% off until 7/3/2020) Relax FAR Infrared Sauna Chaga Mushroom Bellicon Rebounders Featured Products For This Episode: Blue Blockers Reishi Mushroom Elk Antler Pine Pollen Joovv Red Light Therapy Greenwave Dirty Electricity Filters Aloe Vera Rapid Release Technology Pro 2 Barf World Raw Dog Food The Biomat Chemical Free Organic Skincare! Activation Products – Ocean’s Alive & Magnesium Show Notes https://eagle-research.com/product/ac50/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOvJR4-TqYU https://www.dovepress.com/brain-metastases-completely-disappear-in-non-small-cell-lung-cancer-us-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-OTT https://eagle-research.life/scientific-studies/ http://www.molecularhydrogeninstitute.com/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/10/09/saunas-cut-pneumonia-risk/ Show Guest: George Wiseman Guest Info: George Wiseman is a self-funded inventor who has influenced, shaped and guided entire genres. He has been providing proven customer satisfaction since 1984. Mr. Wiseman has been hailed as one of the top Worldwide experts concerning Brown’s Gas – AKA: BG, HydrOxy, or HHO. Mr. Wiseman is a pioneer in developing and promoting the World’s most practical and safe HydrOxy Gas for “Health Application”. In 1996, Mr. Wiseman’s ‘Fuel Saver’and ‘WaterTorch’ customers began telling him how they were using HydrOxy to heal themselves. Extensive tests were subsequently run on plants, animals, birds and fish; all with amazing results. Eventually ‘they’, (his customers), convinced him to optimize his electrolyzer design so people could safely use the HydrOxy Gas to heal themselves of almost any ailment. Mr. Wiseman has sold thousands of his electrolyzers worldwide. The first experimental ‘for health’ electrolyzers are the ER50, which have been available since 2007. The recently upgraded version of Mr. Wiseman’s ‘Health Optimized’ electrolyzer, known as the AquaCure, has been on the market since July of 2017. George Wiseman is a true American inventor, with a twist. He invents world changing technology but does not patent it. Instead he sells the information and devices goes directly to the public and teaches as many people as he can how to duplicate his innovations. Yes, several people have used his technologies to make millions and not paid Mr. Wiseman a dime. But that is OK by Mr. Wiseman, because he is trying to get his innovations actually USED by the public. He thinks of himself as an alternative energy researcher and started his business, Eagle-Research, in 1984; at first selling fuel saving information and technology. He was able to revolutionize that genre, not only inventing several practical fuel savers, but also the technology that allowed fuel savers to interface with modern fuel systems. He then became an expert in Browns’ Gas, also known as HHO or HydrOxy, and has focused on that for the last 20 years. Fuel Savings was just one of the more than 30 useful applications for HydrOxy. Another Mr. Wiseman optimized was using HydrOxy to replace torch fuels like acetylene. The application he is currently focused on is HydrOxy for health. Hydrogen for health is fast becoming one of the most important innovations of all time and Mr. Wiseman is guiding the technology into using practical and SAFE technologies to apply it. Show Topic: Hydrogen Guest Website(s): https://www.aquacure4u.com/ https://eagle-research.com/ Please Support Us If You Are Able: (Opens in a new window – Every bit helps us to keep delivering even better shows that help you heal & thrive!) [spp-transcript] The post George Wiseman – Hydrogen The Missing Key To Your Health! appeared first on Extreme Health Radio.
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Jun 5, 2025 • 1h 37min

Dr. Shawn Baker – The Carnivore Diet Is It Right For You?

Quick Announcement for EHR listeners! Get Project 180 – Discover the truth about every vaccine For a limited time Matt Blackburn is giving Extreme Health Radio show listeners 25% off his line of products. Just enter code EHR25 at checkout while it lasts! Today we had Dr. Shawn Baker on to talk about the carnivore diet and whether or not eating only animal food is healthy. Should you restrict entire macronutrients like carbohydrates? Should you avoid plant foods all together? Why do people heal changing from a SAD diet to carnivore? Or why do people heal changing from an SAD diet to vegan? What’s the common demoniator? We talk about this along with wild meats, how to cook meats and even primal meat consumption. We also talk about consuming organ meats and even fermented organ meats, often called by Aajonus Vonderplanitz “high meat”. No thanks. I hope you enjoy this show with Dr. Shawn Baker from MeatRX. 🙂 Thanks for listening! Please share it with a friend! Tag us on Instagram and let me know what you think! I hope you enjoy! One final thing! Thank you for bookmarking our Amazon link and shopping through our ever expanding store. Without your ongoing help, we wouldn’t be able to make this possible. 🙂 Sponsor For This Episode: Relax FAR Infrared Sauna Colostrum Greenwave dirty electicity filters Magnetico sleep pad Products Related To This Episode: Stockton Aloe One Joovv Red Light Therapy BluBlox Glasses Scalar energy rest shield Daily Qigong Course Chaga mushrooms BARF Raw Dog Food Xtrema Cookware Medical Biomats Chemical Free Organic Skincare! Show Notes N/A Subscribe To Our Radio Show For Updates! Listen to other shows with this guest. Guest Bio Orthopedic Surgeon Athlete – World Record Holder CEO at MeatRx Author of The Carnivore Diet International Speaker Podcast Host Consultant A lifetime of pursuing excellence Pushing the boundaries and not settling for mediocrity Father, Soldier, Revolutionist Show Subject(s): Carnivore diet, paleo diet, primal diet Guest Website(s): https://shawn-baker.com/ https://meatrx.com/ Thanks for supporting us! (Opens in a new window – Every bit helps us to keep delivering even better shows that help you heal & thrive!) The post Dr. Shawn Baker – The Carnivore Diet Is It Right For You? appeared first on Extreme Health Radio.
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Jun 4, 2025 • 2h 33min

Amy Proal – Digestive System Function & How The Human Microbiome Affect Autoimmune Disease!

ANNOUNCEMENT: SUPPLEMENTS TO HELP REPAIR MITOCHONDRIA TO REDUCE OXIDATION & MAKE ATP Dissolve-It-All – breaking down scar tissue, inflammation and calcification PUFA Protect – Eliminating a lifetime of a high PUFA diet Purely K – Reduce Calcification NAD Power – Allow Your Mitochondria To Create Energy! Probiotic Endotoxin Reducer – Lower Endotoxins! Oyster Extract – Bioavailable Copper, Selenium & Zinc Resilien-C – Whole Food Vitamin C Panacea – Pure Shilijit 84 Minerals + Chelate Iron Digest-it-All – Better assimilate & absorb your food Use discount code EHR15 🙂 Today we had Amy Proal on the show to talk about VDR receptor, Vitamin D and autoimmune disease. Due to technical reasons I never was able to publish the show to itunes. I had so little knowledge of Vitamin D and receptors during this show but I hope you enjoy it otherwise! Thank you all! Sponsors For This Episode: Extreme Health Academy Use code EHR14 for a free 2 week trial! Mitolife Products Stockton Aloe One Joovv Red Light Therapy Magnetico Sleep Pads Relax FAR Infrared Sauna Featured Products For This Episode: Greenwave Dirty Electricity Filters AquaCure Molecular Hydrogen Get 10% off RaOptics Blue blocking glasses The Sperti Vitamin D Sunlamp Bellicon Rebounders Barf World Raw Dog Food The Biomat Show Guest: Dr. Amy Proal Guest Website(s): http://microbeminded.com/ Please Support Us If You Are Able: (Opens in a new window – Every bit helps us to keep delivering even better shows that help you heal & thrive!) [spp-transcript] The post Amy Proal – Digestive System Function & How The Human Microbiome Affect Autoimmune Disease! appeared first on Extreme Health Radio.
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Jun 2, 2025 • 1h 11min

Dr. Stuart Nunnally – Our Dentist Talks About The Dangers of Mercury Fillings, How To Treat Root Canals, Fix Cavitations, & Prevent Tooth Decay Naturally

Check out my health protocols here >> [include file=get-in-itunes.html] Today we had an amazing discussion with our dentist Dr. Stuart Nunnally. If you haven’t had a chance to visit him in Marble Falls Texas you can read about my experience being at his office in 2010 and visit his website to learn more. I tell people all the time about his office and what he’s doing. I recently told one of our amazing guests Ty Bollinger about Dr. Nunnally because they’re in the same general area of Texas. I cannot recommend him enough. You might be thinking it’s strange to get on a plane and fly to see your dentist, but it’s worth it. In my opinion your oral health takes precedence over your physical health. It’s somewhat counter productive to take green powders, and do cleanses of all kinds if you have a rotting tooth in your mouth. There’s a reason why people will look at the teeth to find out how healthy a person is. There’s a reason why traditional Chinese Medicine links each tooth to specific organs of the body through the energetics of the meridian systems of the body. In fact Dr. Bob Dowling has gone on record saying that all cancer is caused by oral pathology. “All” is a pretty strong word there but at the very least you can see just how important it is to take care of your teeth. If you have issues in your mouth as many of us do (me included!) than whatever you do you don’t want to go to a regular dentist who doesn’t understand the finer esoteric concepts of just how important it is to have things done correctly. For example you don’t want to have your mercury fillings removed without taking the proper procedures that are needed to be done to ensure you don’t get infected with mercury during the process. I cannot recommend Dr. Stuart Nunnaly and his staff more highly. I’ve listened to countless interviews with him and had the wonderful opportunity to visit them a few years ago and you can trust me when I tell you, you won’t find a more kind and helpful man than him. What a joy it was to visit them and get my mercury fillings removed safely and correctly. If you are looking for a biological dentist in your area, I would get a Care Credit card, save some money for a flight and get your mouth worked on properly. This is serious business and unfortunately I don’t think people understand just how serious proper dental care really is. Your health is your wealth and if you go to a regular conventional dentist I encourage you to do your research first and listen to this interview with Dr. Stuart Nunnally and see if what he’s saying resonates with you and your ideas about health. Dr. Nunnally is on the cutting edge of the science of dentistry and how it affects our health, our energy, our vitality, our longevity and our susceptibility to disease. During this show we talked about all kinds of interesting subjects like, root canals, receding gums, curing tooth decay naturally what the right diet is that promotes healthy oral health, implants, bridges, crowns, mercury fillings, root canals and so much more. If you enjoy this episode will you do us a favor? Would you be so kind as to share it with your friends using the social links above? We really are relying on all of you amazing listeners to help spread the word so more people can know about this life changing information. Kate and I would be so grateful if you would help us out in that regard! 🙂 Are root canals as dangerous as people claim? Dr. Stuart Nunnally explains. – Click to tweet this! – Get Notified: [ois skin=”Show Page2″] – Commercials: – Please Subscribe: Subscribe To Our Radio Show For Updates!   – Other Shows:[include file=show-links.html] | All Shows With This Guest – Show Date:Thursday 11/14/2013 – Show Guest:Dr. Stuart Nunnally – Guest Info: Dr. Stuart Nunnally is a graduate of the University of Texas Health Science Center Dental School in San Antonio (1980). He maintains an integrative biological dental practice in Marble Falls, Texas where he has treated patients from all fifty states and twenty-four countries. Dr. Nunnally is chairman of the jawbone osteonecrosis committee of the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology. Read More… He holds fellowships in the Academy of General Dentistry and in the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology. He is currently completing a stem cell fellowship in the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine. Nunnally is board certified in naturopathic medicine and is board certified in integrative biologic dental medicine. He serves on the teaching faculty of the Academy of Comprehensive Integrative Medicine and The American College of Integrative Medicine and Dentistry, and he frequently teaches on all aspects of biological dentistry.   – Topic:Root canals, gum disease, tooth decay, cavities, periodontal disease, – Guest Website(s):http://www.healthysmilesforlife.com (Guest Social Links Below. Please Follow Them!) 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Kate: I don’t know why that music just makes me want to groove. Justin: You’re doing the drums and got the smirk on your face. Kate: So silly. I know. Justin: Well, thank you, everybody, for joining us. My name is Justin and that voice you heard of that lovely young lady… Kate: Thank you very much. Justin: …was my wife, Kate. Kate: Hi, every body. Thanks for joining us. Justin: Thank you so much and this is just been a dental… Kate: A dental week. Justin: A dental week here. Kate: It’s been amazing. The more we can learn about dental stuff, the better. Justin: Yeah, it’s going to be a great show. So if you have tooth problems or any kind of oral pathology issues with your mouth, you’re going to want to listen to this show because we have one of the best biological dentists, in my opinion, on the planet. Man, we love Dr. Nunnally. We have been to his beautiful offices there in Marble Falls, back in 2010, and we plan to go again. So stay tuned. We’ll introduce Dr. Stuart Nunnally in just a moment. This is Episode 180, so you can go to ExtremeHealthRadio.com/180 if you want to make a comment about the show or anything that Dr. Stuart Nunnally says, or check out the show notes, websites and all that good stuff. Kate: I will be taking notes for you all. Justin: Kate, the note-taker… Kate: That’s right. Justin: …will be taking notes. Kate: Many shoes to fill. Justin: Big shoes to fill. And for reference, this is Thursday, November 18, 2013 and if you’d like to follow us on Facebook, we’d love to have you join us. You can click the “like” button on our Facebook page and keep up to date with our shows and all that kind of good stuff. So if you’d like to join the show, there are lots of different ways to do that. You can email me at justin@ExtremeHealthRadio.com. Kate: Or kate@ExtremeHealthRadio.com. Justin: And you can also send a voicemail in to our guests that we can play on the air. You can pre-record that straight from your computer or you can join our live chat room that’s happening. Now we are broadcasting live, so if you go to ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Live, you can go onto that page and listen and type your question into the chat room and get your questions answered. So there are lots of different ways to join the show. And if you guys are interested in helping to keep this show free, during the holiday season and during any time really, you can actually make your purchases on Amazon through our link, and that would be a really great way to help support our show at ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Amazon. That would be a super way to keep the show free for everybody. Let’s see… We’ve got some great guests coming up here, Kate. Kate: I know. I was just looking at the calendar. Justin: Dr. Morton Walker, and he’s going to be talking about cancer, so that’ll be a great show. And then I’m not sure how you say his name—Paul Huljich—stress management. That’s going to be a good one. His website is StressPandemic.com and that’s going to be a great show, talking about how we can mitigate the effects of stress on our lives in a practical way. Kate: Because I know everyone needs that. Justin: And then we have Vani Hari from FoodBabe.com and she’s going to be talking about her work. And if you haven’t been onto FoodBabe.com, I’d highly recommend that. So it’s going to be a great show, talking with her. But today we have Dr. Stuart Nunnally and he has been practicing dentistry for over 33 years, I believe, and he is a holistic dentist, practicing out of Marble Falls, Texas—beautiful place. We went there, like I said, in 2010. And just an amazing person doing tons of research. He’s also a nutritionist as well, so not too many dentists understand the nutrition and how that plays into everything. So thank you so much, Dr. Nunnally, for joining us today. Stuart: Oh, it’s a privilege. I’m just tickled to be with you. Justin: Oh, excellent. And life is good in Marble Falls, isn’t it? Stuart: You know, Marble Falls is just one of those little hidden gems that unfortunately has been discovered now, but it’s still beautiful and the air is fresh here and the water is clean and we think it’s a great place for people to come and visit and get a little bit out of the city. We’re about 45 miles west of Austin and 75 north of San Antonio, so we’re kind of in that little niche of the Texas hill country that gives people a good chance to escape and heal and relax. Justin: That’s great. We had been hearing about your offices and your work for so long and then we decided to finally “You know what? We’re in California. We just need to fly to a dentist” and we needed to come see you. And so we did that in 2010 and had just an amazing, wonderful experience in your office. It’s funny, because people who don’t know about biological dentistry and how important your work is say to us “What are you…? You’re flying to Texas to go see a dentist?” Kate: “You guys are crazy!” Justin: “That’s crazy!” But I’m sure you have a lot of people that do that, don’t you? Stuart: Well, we do. We do. You know, there are physicians around the world who want to send their patients to a biological dentist and so we are in that humbling position of seeing people from all over the world. We never dreamed it would be that way. You know, we’re sort of a—at least I’ve always personally been—sort of an “all or nothing” kind of guy, and when we decided really to make this a biological practice, I wanted to make sure that we tried to incorporate every protocol that would give a patient the optimum opportunity to heal. And so fortunately, there are great folks—practitioners—around the world who want that also for their patients and they refer to us and so it’s a great spot for us to be in because typically we see folks like you, Kate and Justin, who have sort of taken their health into their own hands and are really, really interested in trying to make sure that their dentistry, if it’s maybe a revision where all their dentistry is being redone, that it’s done with proper materials and done with protocols that protect the patient. Justin: And you had a bit of an experience getting into biological dentistry. Tell people about how and why you got involved with doing biological dentistry to begin with. Stuart: Well, you know, I had considered myself a holistic dentist because I hadn’t put a mercury filling in in many, many years, but for over 13 years ago now, I began to have neurological issues and to the point of at some point in my treatment, I was finally referred to the Lou Gehrig Center in Houston, thinking that I had ALS. And it just turned out that I had a toxicity issue, mostly from mercury, and even though I hadn’t put a mercury filling in in 20 years at that time, I had been removing them, not taking the proper precautions myself and finally was overwhelmed by the mercury exposure and began to have those neurological issues. So I actually went to see Hal Huggins, who at that time was seeing patients in Montreal and things looked so bleak for me at that time, I would’ve gone anywhere. But at any rate, Hal was kind enough to see me and was my first time to meet him, although I was familiar with the books he had written. You know, I came away from Montreal, after my treatment there—spent about eight days with him—and I came away with hope and with actually, even after that short time, beginning to feel better. As it turned out, I did not have an ALS diagnosis, but I had a mercury toxicity diagnosis. And so at any rate, it took a long time to recover. I went from being a fairly competitive triathlete to not being able to jog for a little over three years. Justin: Oh wow. Stuart: But I’m back, you know? And it’s fabulous. So after that whole experience, as so often happens, sometimes we have to get sick ourselves to really make a paradigm shift. And I did. Justin: Is there any difference between the symptoms of something like ALS and mercury poisoning? Wouldn’t they be pretty similar? Stuart: Yeah, they are. You know, the differences sometimes are very, very subtle and in my own case, I had many of the symptoms and I also would have had many of the symptoms of an MS patient. You can throw many of these autoimmune issues or disorders into one big basket. Some of them have very, very small, distinguishing characteristics. But at any rate, I’m so grateful that I did have a toxicity issue and the beautiful thing about that is over time, if you avoid re-exposure, you can get well. Justin: Yeah. Yeah, so what were some of the things that you used to overcome and get those toxins out of your body? Stuart: Well, you know, for me the biggest thing was I avoided re-exposure, so I did everything possible to protect myself and my staff when I went back to work. Of course we wear respirators, we have special air filtration systems in the office—anything I can do to avoid exposure to mercury. And then I’ve also, of course, been very, very careful. I was a big fish eater. And unfortunately, you know our seas have become so toxic that many of the fish are way too high in mercury levels for me, and so I have been without a bite of fish for the last 13 years and I just avoid those foods that might have a mercury contamination issue. Justin: Wow. Did you use any fancy supplements or…? Stuart: Well, I did. And not fancy. You know what I chose to do? I chose to go very, very slow as I detoxed. So one of the things that I did is I invested in an infrared sauna, which was huge. That was a big, big part of my healing because interestingly enough, many times patients who have heavy metal toxicities lose the ability to sweat. And I was one of those. I could not break a sweat. And the infrared sauna helped me to retrain my body to be able to sweat. It was a huge part of my overall detox. And then I chose to go slowly, by doing a bag of vitamin C IV once a month—a big, healthy dose of 50 grams at a time—and that is also a wonderful, slow way to detoxify. Vitamin C itself is a poor chelator, but it elevates that wonderful little substance in our bodies called glutathione, which is a great chelator. Justin: And doesn’t Dr. Huggins say as long as there is more going out than what’s coming in, you’re okay? Stuart: Absolutely. And I think he’s right. I think he’s absolutely right on that. Of course he’s been seeing this for 40+ years and I think he is absolutely right about that. Justin: So I saw something on your website just the other day called—this is a term I had never heard before and I’ve been doing this for quite some time—but it was called trigeminal neuralgia. What is that? Stuart: Well, the reason we’re so interested in that is because first of all, the patients who have it oftentimes feel basically abandoned, except for the use of some potent neurological drugs. So trigeminal neuralgia is described in the literature as the most painful of all human afflictions and what I believe to be true is that most cases of trigeminal neuralgia are caused from an old extraction site, in other words, where a tooth has been removed and usually even that is a wisdom tooth. The toxicities from the extraction site can leach into a major nerve—the trigeminal nerve—and cause a very, very painful phenomenon called trigeminal neuralgia. So we are accustomed to cleaning those sites out. Those sites are most often referred to as “cavitations.” Justin: Oh, I see. Stuart: And so if a cavitation is truly causing trigeminal neuralgia, most times by cleaning that out, at least the literature says 75% of the time those patients will be asymptomatic after the treatment. In other words, the pain will go away. So we see many, many patients with trigeminal neuralgia and I think it’s absolutely a blessing to be able to see them because most often, we can have a real impact on their pain. Justin: Wow. Is it pretty safe to say that people that have had their teeth or a tooth removed have a cavitation? Is it pretty much a guarantee? Stuart: You know, I think it is—not so much in real young children, for example. Even when a permanent tooth has been removed in a young child, oftentimes those seem to heal in well, but as we get older—even into their late teens and early twenties—when a tooth is removed, that socket can fill up with bacteria before it heals and then a little cap of bone grows over that and the gum tissue and you’re left with a little cesspool of bacteria there, and that is called a cavitation. It goes by many other names, but I think most people know it by that. And so I think the answer to your question is many, many times, especially in the wisdom tooth sites, we end up with cavitations after the extraction. And it’s interesting, Justin, how some people seem to handle the toxicities from those well and maybe live with them for a lifetime and others don’t. And we have now sampled hundreds and hundreds of these via DNA studies and we know now that the bacteria within a cavitation are some of the most potent literally known to man and the toxins that they produce. So they can be a great challenge to the immune system and that’s what we do is we clean those out. Justin: So if someone gets a wisdom tooth removed, which a lot of people have had—and I have had—and haven’t had those taken care of yet, if they have their wisdom teeth removed, what’s going on in terms of how the doctor is removing or the surgeon is removing those teeth that causes there to be such a thing as a cavitation? Are they doing it wrong? Stuart: Well, most folks—and probably the most outspoken person on this issue over the years has been Hal Huggins—he over the years has said that dentists need to be removing the ligament that attaches the tooth to the jawbone in order for these to heal properly. And we typically in dentistry don’t do that. We simply remove the tooth. The ligament stays in place. And Hal has felt over the years that that ligament precludes the bone from completely filling in that area. Justin: Oh, I see. Stuart: So I think it’s important to remove the ligament. I think there are a number of other things, most of which he has proposed over the years, that we do so that they heal properly. One is that we don’t have a patient driving long distances afterwards, where they are jiggling down the road. Not them driving—just someone even driving them—but where they’re possibly disrupting that clot. Justin: That’s a big deal, isn’t it? Stuart: I think it is. I think it is. And of course he, over the years, has always recommended that high doses of vitamin C be given and preferably intravenously because of the toxicities associated with those. And then of course he has always recommended acupressure or acupuncture immediately afterward to restore the electrical network that goes through these. And a cavitation is a known block to the meridians where we have natural electrical impulses going. So all of that is part of the protocol that Hal developed over the years and I think it’s a very important protocol to follow to get these to heal properly. Justin: When I was with you guys in 2010, I only had my mercury amalgam fillings removed and after that procedure, I had the acupressure, and that was quite a calming… That was pretty… Kate: You came out looking like you were dead, in a good way. I’ve never seen him more mellow. Justin: It was such a pleasurable experience to have that right after a procedure like that. Stuart: Well, it is. It’s overlatching and that’s all part of the healing process is to really be still afterwards and let that clot have time to gel so that those wonderful little cells in there will mature into bone cells. But one of the most exciting things that we have instituted, oh, just within the last six months is now, in addition to doing all those other things I mentioned, we—while the patient is sedated, of course; we do this with the patient sedated via IV—we’ll draw several more tubes of blood and we spin that down and collect the platelets out of that—out of the patient’s own blood—and then we pack that concentrated group of platelets into the extraction site. And that is just like a dose of mega-healing all at one time, because platelets have such a marvelous impact on a healing response. So we are so excited about that. That’s called a platelet-rich fibrin technique. It was introduced in France a few years ago and anyway, we feel like it’s really a game-changer for us. Justin: Yeah, that’s a brand new procedure that you guys have been implementing. Kate: Yeah, since we’ve been there. Justin: Yeah, since we’ve been there, huh? Just recently. Stuart: It is. It is. You know, we’re always looking for something better and newer and based on the research and we think this is a fabulous new technique. Justin: Well, this is good. We’ve got to take a little break here—perfect time for a break. If you guys are interested in visiting our dentist, his website is HealthySmilesForLife.com, Dr. Stuart Nunnally. And if you go to Healthy Smiles For Life, you can check out their website and set up a consultation and go in there and talk to all of them. Just a wonderful, wonderful place to go. And if you are living anywhere in the country—I mean we’re in California and we flew to go see Dr. Nunnally—he’s just an amazing guy. So we’ll be right back with Dr. Nunnally right after this break. [ADVERTISEMENT] Justin: I have been a huge fan of rebounding for many, many years and if you want to get in great cardiovascular shape, tone your legs, back and butt and stomach, as well as cleanse your lymphatic system from toxins and chemicals, you just have to start rebounding. It’s imperative. And not only will it create endorphins that quickly become addictive to you, but it’s very low impact as well. It helps to prevent sicknesses and diseases, as well as increase bone density and it flushes toxins from your lymphatic system. It’s amazing. And not only that, but it’s a ton of fun also. I do it every single day for about 15 minutes. And we found the best rebounder on the market today in the world, bar none. It’s called the Bellicon rebounder. It’s the Roll’s Royce of rebounders, in my opinion. And let’s listen to some of what our guests have had to say about rebounding. Robert Von Sarbacher is a health researcher and creator of the Mini Beet Protocol and Robert, what’s your favorite exercise? Robert: In general, probably one of the number one anti-aging exercises on the planet is rebounding. So 15 minutes a day is good for that. You can find people who have had thermography scans on cancers—giant tumors—and when they’re doing a rebounder it would start spewing out and shrinking right in front of your eyes, the tumor would, as they’re on the rebounder. So it’s really good for that sort of thing. It’s also very good for exercising internal organs. It’s the only internal organ exerciser that I know of, known to man. Justin: Dr. Lindsey Duncan is the CEO and founder of Genesis Today and what’s the best way that you think of to stimulate the lymphatic system of the body? Lindsey: Rebounding is incredible because it’s good for the lymphatic system and there’s more lymph fluid in the body than there is blood. And the quickest way and the most effective way to get the lymphatic system flowing is through rebounding itself. Justin: Yeah, because the lymphatic system can’t really detox itself, can it? I think… Lindsey: No, the heart… We have the heart, thank you, for pumping blood and we don’t have a heart to pump lymphatic fluid. The only thing that really can pump lymphatic fluid is cardiovascular exercise utilizing the thighs—the thigh muscles. And that’s why rebounding and getting a burn in that thigh muscle is so important for the flow and the stimulation of the lymphatic fluid. Justin: Wow. And they even put cancer patients on rebounding, don’t they? Lindsey: Nutritionists do. Justin: Yeah. Lindsey: Yeah, absolutely. Justin: Yeah, but not a conventional doctor. But yeah, I’ve been learning about rebounding lately. It’s quite an amazing thing. Lindsey: Yeah, rebounding is amazing. Justin: Health researcher and author of Cancer: Step Outside The Box, Ty Bollinger, what do you do in your life to prevent cancer? Ty: What do you do to treat cancer? What do you do to prevent it? Rebounding is something that I try to do on a daily basis, a little mini trampoline for those people that aren’t familiar with the term “rebounding.” But it’s basically just jumping up and down on that little mini tramp. What that does is it stimulates the lymphatic system. The lymphatic system is one of our primary detoxification systems in our body and most folks don’t stimulate their lymph flow and so the toxicity in their body builds up because their lymph is not stimulated and the up-down motion on a rebounder stimulates the lymph flow better than just about any other exercise. So I do that almost on a daily… probably five days a week, I would say I average doing that. Justin: And finally, author and speaker and creator of the Longevity Now program, David Wolfe, do you think the Bellicon is the best rebounder on the market today? David: Absolutely. I was just with the crew in Europe that does the Bellicon rebounder, which is an incredible rebounder. My God, what a machine! And it doesn’t use metal springs. It uses like flexy ropes, so it’s very soft and fun and it’s just great to play with. Justin: Well, there you have it, the up and down g-force actually stimulates every single cell in your body. It’s incredible. And as someone who works out in the gym a lot and does Qigong, I think that the best physical aerobic exercise, in my opinion, is rebounding. It’s just absolutely incredible for the human body. And the Bellicon is silent and it comes with a warranty and you can get them in several different sizes and colors and some of them have bars that you can hold onto in case you’re worried about balance. It’s a well worth it investment in your health and in your future. So check them out in our store if you’d like, or you can check out the videos on ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Bellicon. [ADVERTISEMENT] 100% listener supported. Extreme Health Radio, opening minds and transforming lives worldwide. Don’t forget to join our thriving community for health tips, inspiration and show updates at ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Facebook. Justin: Well, we’re having a great time with our dentist, Dr. Stuart Nunnally, from Marble Falls, Texas. Kate: That is right. Justin: Gotta love Marble Falls, Texas. Kate: I do love Marble Falls, Texas. Justin: Beautiful place, isn’t it? Kate: Gorgeous, and I have to say, I mean the office is just… The place is gorgeous—the surroundings—but when you get inside that office, you feel like just a big, warm hug when you walk through that door. So soothing you don’t feel like you’re at the dentist. Justin: I know, right? It’s unlike any other dentist place I’ve been to. Kate: Oh yeah, absolutely. Felt more like a bed and breakfast. Justin: Yeah, it’s a big facility and lots of different rooms and different people doing pre-op stuff and taking your blood work and all this crazy stuff—great, great facility. So Dr. Nunnally, before the break we were kind of discussing a little bit about cavitations and I was asking before about how doctors and dentists… When they remove the teeth, typically they don’t remove the ligaments that connect in the jawbone and I was just curious what happens—if you could explain a little bit more—about what’s really going on when the dentist will do that or a surgeon will remove a tooth… What happens inside? Lots of bacteria start to develop and then…? Perhaps you can shed some light on how that transpires and how that works? Stuart: Sure. Well, the tooth is connected to the jawbone via a ligament that’s known as the periodontal ligament, and it really acts as a shock absorber for the tooth. If you take any healthy tooth and you latch onto it with your fingers, you can feel just a little bit of movement if you try to push it one way or the other. And that’s because the tooth is connected to the bone with this ligament. Well, the ligament obviously has a wonderful reason for being there and that is when we bite down, there is a little tiny bit of squishiness to our teeth that we’re not aware of, but it helps us to when we bite down not to feel like we’re literally banging our teeth against one another. There is a little bit of a cushion or a little bit of a shock absorber effect there. Justin: Okay. Stuart: So the theory is that when that ligament is left in place. In other words, the tooth is removed, the ligament stays, surrounding where the tooth used to be and attached to the bone, but you don’t get a good infiltration of blood cells and all of those other wonderful factors that are needed in order to get bone to heal. And so then you’re more likely for the bacteria that are naturally present in the mouth to slip into that extraction site and to take up housekeeping and once they’re there… Actually, bacteria that are not necessarily the worst in the world can player morph or change into a very harmful bacteria. So aerobic bacteria, which we typically think of as not being among the worst, can literally change into an anaerobic bacteria, and that’s what we find when we culture these or when we remove the contents from one of these. We’ll find that in our DNA samples. Justin: And what kinds of bacteria are you finding that are some of the dangerous—most dangerous? Stuart: Well, to tell you the truth, when we first started submitting these, probably five years ago, half the bacteria I had never even seen before. Justin: Really? Stuart: Yeah. No, it just blew me away. I showed some to several different infectious disease doctors and they were just blown away by the array and the potency of those bacteria. Now the thing about it is the body is very adept at encapsulating diseased areas. In other words, the body will lay down a dense layer of bone around these in an effort to protect you. That’s called condensing osteitis. But still, those toxicities in the bacteria don’t just stay there. They can leach out and get into our bloodstream and they can impact other areas in our body, and we know that very, very well. There are great studies to demonstrate that what goes on in the jawbone doesn’t just stay there. It can go anywhere it wishes. Justin: And a lot of people have like heart conditions and there are a lot of different conditions that have happened to them as a result of their oral… Kate: That they wouldn’t necessarily make that connection, I’m sure. Justin: Right. Stuart: Yeah, absolutely. And that’s all very well documented in the literature. And so there are certain bacteria within these cavitations. I mean their primary place to infect, if they’re not in the jawbone, is the heart. There are others that go to other organs. And so we see folks, many times they have been seen by numerous physicians and other caregivers and they’ve had no relief from whatever their symptoms or their disease is and many times when the patients have these cavitated areas cleaned out, they begin to feel better. It’s very interesting. My first time… See, we’re not taught in dentistry about cavitations. If you were going to be taught about it, it would be called osteonecrosis—osteo meaning bone, necrosis being dead, and it’s basically a dead area within the marrow of our bone. Justin: I see. Stuart: And they’re very, very common. We know that these occur in other bones of the body—all bones of the body—most commonly, the next most common bone outside of the jawbone is the hip. And so, for example, sometimes an athlete will take a blow with maybe a football helmet to the hip and all of a sudden, their hipbone becomes necrotic. They have osteonecrosis of the hip and it will cause them to either have to have that hip cleaned out—the way we do in the jawbone—or they may even lose the hip and have to have an artificial hip. So we’re just not taught about these and the very first time I heard this, I was sitting next to a brilliant lady physician who has an integrative medical clinic in one of the Carolinas and she said to me “You know patients come to us from all over the world” and she said, “I can’t tell you how often we do these elaborate studies on them, can’t figure out what has caused their disease, but when we send them to have their cavitations cleaned out, they get well.” Literally, that was 15 years ago. I had no idea what she was talking about. And so that’s when I began to do my research and then when I went to see Hal Huggins in Montreal 13 years ago, he said to me “Well, if you don’t get your cavitations cleaned out, you’re not going to get well” and I said, “Well, I honestly don’t even have a clue as to whether I have them but I am perfectly willing.” And I’ll have to say that I think that was a very significant part of my healing process was getting those cleaned out. Justin: Wow. That’s amazing. And so when you’re cleaning out the cavitations for people, do you typically need to do it more than once or is it a one time deal or how does that work? Stuart: Well, there have been 12 studies to determine how often they reoccur when they’ve been treated and unfortunately, in those 12 studies—there were 2,000 patients in those 12 studies—in those studies, 40% of the cavitated areas reoccurred and had to be re-cleaned out. Justin: Interesting. And during those studies, were they being done by biological dentists who really knew what they were doing or…? Stuart: I think they were being done by very well meaning and talented surgeons, but none of the protocol that we follow or that, for example, that Hal Huggins recommended for so long was being followed. Many of them drove long distances home. Certainly there was no acupressure or vitamin C. All those other things to support and most importantly, I think, of course there was no platelet-rich fibrin being introduced into those sites afterwards. So I can’t imagine that that failure rate would even come close to 40%. I think today I would be very disappointed if more than 5% or 10% of those reoccurred. Justin: Interesting. And so what are you cleaning the cavitations out with? Stuart: Well, we have a number of instruments—instruments that are made specifically for that, to clean those out. We also use some rotary instruments to help really clean that out. And then we irrigate that. We love the effects of ozone. We are big proponents of ozone and its antibacterial abilities, so we use ozone in the sites. And then, of course, then we follow up with this protocol that I’ve been talking about. Justin: Where you’re using the patient’s own blood as well, right? Stuart: Correct. Exactly. Justin: Wow. And that really speeds up the healing process, doesn’t it? Stuart: Oh, it’s just unbelievable. I mean we always see our patients the next day and many times, unless they’re from long distances, we’ll see them again the next week and the healing is… Well, we just honestly can’t believe it. Many times, even on the next day, you can hardly tell that we were in the site. Justin: Wow. So you, when people come in and get a cavitation worked on and removed and healed up like that, you recommend people stay a night or two rather than flying in a plane or driving in a car the next day. You recommend people kind of spend a day or two just to let that clot heal, don’t you? Stuart: We do. We insist that folks who have that surgery spend the night in Marble Falls and of course we see them the following day for follow-up vitamin C and acupressure. Then at the end of that second day, patients are able to drive. We ask them not to fly for 48 hours after we do their treatment. Kate: That makes sense. Justin: Yeah, that’s good. Is there a difference between—in terms of danger to people—between root canals and cavitations? Are they similar in terms of how they affect the body or are they completely different? Stuart: Well, the bacteria that we find from DNA analysis of root canal teeth and cavitations are almost identical. And that’s very disheartening, because there was a point in my career when I did about 150 root canals a year and I haven’t done one now in many years because I’m convinced that the toxicities associated with root canals can be a true challenge to our immune system. The unfortunate thing about that is people end up losing the tooth rather than being able to keep it, which a root canal oftentimes allows them to keep the tooth. Justin: With the root canal and a cavitation—just kind of putting those two side by side—are there issues with the body not being able to send white blood cells and give good circulation to those areas? Because with the root canal, essentially it’s a dead tooth, and then with a tooth removal, like a wisdom tooth or something else, you’re essentially removing the tooth, so do you prevent the body from sending white blood cells to that area too? Stuart: You do, in both instances. Justin: In both? Okay. Stuart: Yeah, and a root canal, of course you’re right—the process of doing a root canal severs the blood supply to the tooth. Justin: Okay. Stuart: So it’s a dead tooth and it’s filled with a material that fills in the major portion of where the nerve was within the tooth. But there is no blood supply to the tooth, so it’s impossible to deliver the body’s own immune defenses to it. And in the case of a cavitation, it’s a very stagnant blood flow, so it’s difficult to deliver antibiotics to that area. And it’s also, of course, very difficult for the body to deliver its own white cells because the blood flow is so sluggish. Justin: If someone has had a root canal, like me—and I’m sure a lot of people do have them… For us, what we wanted to do is come and see you guys and have… Kate had her amalgam fillings removed; I had mine removed. We didn’t want to do it all in one shot. And I know that’s something that you talk about, but if someone has a root canal, what are some of the protocols that you…? What do you do if someone does have a root canal? Do they only have one option or are there multiple options for them? Stuart: Well, typically when a patient has been referred here by their physician, the physician usually—or healthcare provider—is aware of the fact that root canal teeth are not sterile, that they can pose a real challenge to the immune system and the patient usually is already prepared for the fact that they are going to have the tooth removed. And so what we do is we certainly don’t want the patient to run around without a tooth, especially if it’s in an aesthetic area. We would never let that happen. So fortunately, we have all kinds of wonderful ways to replace a tooth literally within minutes so that no one has to leave here with a missing front tooth. Now if it happened to be the very, very back tooth that’s not visible, we might choose to leave that area left to heal on its own with no sort of temporary tooth there and that’s typically not really a challenge for the patient. Before we will put a permanent tooth anywhere—like a permanent type of bridge—we will always use a temporary first that’s very nice looking, but we want the tissues to heal for several months before we restore that area permanently. Justin: Oh, I see. Okay. Stuart: And for the most part, we see, interestingly enough Justin, we see many, many patients who have a broad range of autoimmune diseases, so most times we are not recommending implants for these patients because of the immune challenges that they are already facing. Justin: I see. Stuart: There will come a time, I think within the next few years, when literally via their own stem cells, they’ll be growing the teeth back. Justin: They’re already growing the pulp, aren’t they, with stem cells? Stuart: Yes. Yes, this technology is just advancing daily. And so I am very, very hopeful that it won’t be long and anyone who has lost a tooth will literally be able to grow it back. Justin: You can’t get any more biologically compatible than your own stem cells, can you? Stuart: Yeah, that’s the way we want it. Justin: Well, we’re going to take a short break and I want to get into—in the next segment—maybe some dietary principles people can start implementing to prevent tooth decay and some things they can do to take care of their own teeth. This is just a wonderful interview with a wonderful man, Dr. Stuart Nunnally. His website is HealthySmilesForLife.com, so make sure to check them out if you’re interested in getting to the root cause of your health issues. In my opinion, I think it’s a huge, huge thing. We’ll be right back with Dr. Stuart Nunnally right after this break. 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Daniel: When you go into the sauna, like a far-infrared sauna like you discuss, your body goes into a deep relaxation mode and your sympathetic nervous system shuts down and your parasympathetic nervous system turns on. And when that’s active, that’s the nervous system—part of your nervous system—that’s active when you meditate. That becomes active and your detoxification pathways open up wide. Why is this important? It’s important because when you go running and you sweat, you’re not necessarily eliminating very much toxicity from your body. But when you sweat in the sauna, you eliminate a lot of toxicity from your body. So sweating in a relaxed state is how we eliminate. The other thing is that what’s wonderful about the sauna is that it puts you in a parasympathetic nervous system response as if you were meditating. So it’s almost a hack. It’s like a trick to get yourself into a meditative, relaxed state, to decompress stress, to reverse the effects of stress, and to get your body eliminating deep, deep toxicity that’s stored in your body fat because it can come out in the oils of your skin. So I think sauna is one of the most crucial detoxification… really health practices that we can take on, especially in this era of heavy toxicity, particularly fat-soluble toxins. Justin: This sauna is really, really great. They offer payment plans because if you buy it through PayPal, it’s 100% secure; you don’t even need a PayPal account. I think you can do a payment plan through PayPal. It’s got low EMF electromagnetic fields coming off it. It’s portable, so that means you don’t have to knock down a wall in your house. You can just move it from room to room. It sets up in about two to five minutes. It’s super easy to clean. All you’ve got to do is wipe it down when you’re done and wipe the neck down. 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Sign up to our email list and instantly get our free gift to you, along with loads of inspirational content and cutting edge tips to help change your life at www.ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Subscribe. Justin: So during the first break, I had a slice of pear and then I typically don’t like to let the acid of the fruit sit on my teeth, so during the second break, I washed my mouth out with baking soda. Kate: You are better than I. Justin: I have to do that. I can’t let that fruit sugar sit on my teeth. Kate: That’s a good practice. We should speak about that to Dr. Nunnally, ask him some practical ones. Justin: So we’re with Dr. Stuart Nunnally, our dentist from Healthy Smiles For Life in Marble Falls, Texas—wonderful man and just doing great work out there in Texas. So if you’re interested in a biological dentist of the highest order, I would recommend, from experience, Dr. Nunnally. So Dr. Nunnally, I wanted to talk a little bit about, perhaps in this segment, about some things people can do to take care of their teeth, maybe some practices they should avoid, and maybe just some issues like that, just on a general upkeep basis for what they can do for their teeth. What do you do to take care of your teeth? Let’s start there. Stuart: Well, you know, the diet that we would all associate with a good, heart-healthy, brain-healthy healthy lifestyle type of diet works well for the mouth. And typically a diet that doesn’t work well for the mouth is a refined carbohydrate diet. So anything that introduces a lot of sugar to the mouth is just a huge insult to our immune system and a challenge. You are exactly right. Now there is help for people like you, Justin. Justin: I know there’s help. Stuart: Who will go and rinse with a little baking soda to neutralize the acid, but you know, that actually is a fabulous thing to do because the fruit—the fructose from your pear—did set up a reaction, which made your mouth more acidic and to neutralize it with baking soda is the perfect way to do it. So there are many, many things that we should be doing that we don’t do in this country because we are a carb-happy diet. We’re in the middle of this huge carbohydrate experiment in this country and we’re beginning to see what we’re reaping as a result of what we’re doing here. And of course, we are becoming the most obese nation in the world. We are becoming the most highly type two diabetic nation in the world. We are just simply over-carbing. And interestingly enough, I look personally at many, many blood chemistries and those folks who eat lots and lots of carbohydrates—and I’m talking about refined carbohydrates now but we can also lump many fruits into that. By the way, the pear is one of the better ones. Kate: Oh, is it? Stuart: But many of the fruits have so much sugar in them that we are just becoming an obese, unhealthy nation. And of course you would expect in this country—with all the opportunities that we have to decrease tooth decay—we would expect there just to be virtually no tooth decay. But because of what we put on our forks and ingest, we still have tooth decay when we really shouldn’t. Justin: Dr. Nunnally, I’m curious if you have seen this video that’s been going around the internet. It was put out by Mike Adams over at Natural News and I think he’s in Texas too. And it was a microscopic video that was done under the microscope of what happens to teeth when they are exposed to the phosphoric acid that’s in Coca-Cola and these types of soft drinks, and it was just so fascinating to watch. As you’re watching it, you’re looking at pieces of the tooth that are literally being broken off and particles of the tooth actually dislodging from the tooth itself. You’re watching this live, as it’s happening, when the tooth is exposed to the phosphoric acid. Have you seen that video by chance? Stuart: Justin, and I can’t believe I have not seen it, but I would love to see it. Justin: It is fascinating. Yeah. And I think he mentioned something about kombucha too, because there’s the same sort of phosphoric acid in that. But I’m sure that you just cringe when you see people drinking these soft drinks, don’t you? Stuart: Oh, I do. I do. Of all the things that have the greatest impact on the enamel of teeth, it’s good old carbonated, high fructose or high sucrose drink. When we look at most drinks, whether it’s Coca-Cola, Dr. Pepper—any of them—when we look at them and there’s 28 grams of sugar, typically, in eight ounces of that, and it’s hard to hold 28 grams of sugar in the palm of your hand. You wouldn’t think you could even get that much sugar in the drink without it all precipitating out. And whoever drinks eight ounces of Coke, you know? Any soft drink is typically 64 ounces or some bizarre number. And so it’s terrible on our teeth. It’s even worse on our pancreas with the insulin that it has to try to secrete to keep up with that. So there’s just not a system in our body that responds well to that much sugar. Justin: Wow. Yeah, it’s fascinating when I watched that video. I’ll send that over to you and we can take a look at that. Stuart: Please. Justin: Yeah, it’s all done under the microscope and just fascinating. I cringe too when I see people drinking these Cokes. I’ll see people doing the Coke thing and then they’ll have like a donut or a pastry and these are just carbs on top of carbs, isn’t it? Stuart: Well, it is, and the problem is that’s addicting because as soon as you… You know, the body does everything it can to protect us and so we get this big squirt of insulin to try to handle that and it’ll convert all of that sugar into triglycerides, which is just another good name for blood fat. That gets stored, of course, as fat, but as soon as that drops off, which it does very quickly when we do a high dose of carbs, then our blood sugar plummets and we are ready for some more carbs because our body is always trying to maintain a nice homeostasis there, where our blood sugar stays even. And it will drop off when we squirt that much insulin into the system and then all of a sudden, we’re ready for the carbs again. And that’s why you see today… Today you’ll see especially school kids who get a big dose, for example, of orange juice first thing in the morning on a totally empty stomach, orange juice having just as much sugar in it as a soft drink, and then by the time they get to school or within an hour or two of school, they are ravenous because they’ve had such a big fall off in their blood sugar. Now they’re hungry again and typically the first thing they’ll do is reach for something that again has high carbs in it. And when you do that often enough, you become diabetic. Justin: Wow, that’s just training kids at a young age… Kate: I was going to say you’re starting out young, which is a sad state of affairs. Justin: Well, talk a little bit about tooth decay and this whole phosphorous level that if it’s above 3.5 you get less tooth decay and then the direction of the nutrients that go to the tooth and from the tooth, because that’s something that can be somewhat controlled by diet, couldn’t it? Stuart: Oh, absolutely. Well, believe it or not, this research was done many, many years ago by a fabulous researcher at Loma Linda. His name was Ralph Steinman and the research showed this. When our phosphorous levels are at 3.5 and above, the tooth is self-cleansing in that the fluid flow from the pulp of the tooth, into the dentin and through the enamel is in a way that it flows outside of the tooth. In other words, all of those little channels are open such that the fluid flows from inside the tooth out. But when we drop our phosphorous levels below 3.5, the fluid flow goes the other way so that all of those sugars and other things within our saliva tend to migrate into the tooth and we’re much more prone to decay. And so the things that tend to drop our phosphorous levels are these: Alcohol does, of course sugar does, stress does, caffeine does. All of those things that we associate basically with an unhealthy lifestyle tend to push our phosphorous—serum phosphorous—levels down. But a healthy lifestyle promotes a phosphorous level above 3.5 and we really feel like it’s more of a regenerative. You’re more in a regenerative state rather than a degenerative state when you get your serum phosphorous above 3.5. Justin: Do you know if fruit sugar or fruits themselves lower the phosphorous level? Stuart: Well, too much… Well, let me back up. Some people handle fruits much better than others. For example, if we take someone from European descent, those folks with their ancestry typically do not handle lots of fruit very well. If we take someone from the Fiji Islands and put them on a real high protein diet, they may not do so well. They may ancestrally be much more adapted to a diet that has many more fruits in it. So to answer your question, I’d say across the board, too many fruits typically upset the chemistry, as I see it. But there are populations that do well, quite frankly, with quite a bit of fruit. Justin: Interesting. And we had a guest on a while back—I’m sure you’re familiar with his work—Ramiel Nagel, and he has written some books on tooth decay and things, and he recommended this high vitamin butter oil and cod liver oil. Are those good things to help regenerate the teeth? Stuart: I think so. It’s rare that I see a patient who has decay that’s advanced through the enamel, into the dentin of the tooth. It’s rare that I see that decay become arrested or reversed. Justin: Okay. Stuart: So if the decay is in the enamel, absolutely—proper nutrition and cleaning that surface will definitely help remineralize the tooth. Justin: Interesting. Okay. Well, gosh. Thank you. I feel like we could talk for hours but I know you are a busy man. You’ve got things to do. Thank you so much. Stuart: Well, it’s been a privilege. Thank you so much. Justin: Thank you so much. Stuart: Y’all were great and I appreciate it very much. Kate: Thank you. Justin: Well, thank you, Doc, and we’ll be in touch soon and I’ll be continually talking about your office because I love it. Stuart: Oh, well thank you. Y’all take care. Kate: You too. Justin: Thanks, you too. So we finally got Dr. Nunnally on the show, didn’t we? It’s been long enough, hasn’t it? Kate: I think it’s great because we talk about him all the time, since the beginning and it’s good to actually expose people to who he is and what he sounds like. He is the kindest man. Justin: Oh gosh. Isn’t he amazing? Kate: I really like him. Justin: He actually wrote an article about… We should put a link to that article on this show page, and also Kate, did you put a thing down in the notes for the video with Mike Adams? Kate: I did. Justin: Okay, cool. Yeah, I wrote an article about my experience with Dr. Nunnally and he’s got a great video on that page that I put onto that article page, so I’ll link to that from here. But we went there in June of 2010, I believe, wasn’t it? Kate: It was and it was hotter than blazes. Justin: It was, wasn’t it? Kate: Yeah, I love Texas but whew, that was a wakeup call, wasn’t it? Justin: That was a different kind of heat. Kate: Yeah. Justin: But it’s just an incredible facility and it’s interesting because like we said during the show, people probably thought we were nuts flying to another state to see a dentist. Kate: I still get people laughing when I said that we’ve been to the office and they go, “What?” Justin: Right. Kate: They don’t understand the importance of… I mean people just don’t understand. Justin: People just don’t get it. Kate: That’s okay. Justin: But here is the thing. In my opinion, it’s so worth it. It’s so, so worth it. Even if your dentist is in another country, I mean there is another great dentist that we interviewed in Ecuador. I forget what his name was. Kate: Oh gosh, I’m blanking on that. Justin: Dr. Bob Dowling. Kate: That’s right. Justin: We’ll put a link to that show. Actually, all of these are in our dental section, so you can list to that. But if you could go get your teeth taken care of, get on a plane and get your teeth taken care of by someone who knows what they’re doing, like Dr. Nunnally, and get everything taken care of and then learn about diet and learn about what is causing this tooth decay and the sugar, the stress and all this stuff, and then if you can heal from that and then take care of your teeth, it might be once a year that you fly out to a dentist or something like that. Kate: Right. Justin: I’ve heard some health people, like David Wolfe, he doesn’t even go to a dentist. He just takes complete responsibility for himself, you know? But it’s really not like you’re going to go see a dentist every three months, so the distance really makes a difference, you know? Kate: Well, and to be honest, like once you get the work done properly, it might cost a little bit of travel and money up front, but what you’re going to gain for the rest of your life if you’re able to keep that caliber of the work you just had done, it’s going to save you from going to the dentist twice a year or whatever and just probably prevent a lot of future problems that could cost hundreds and thousands of dollars, you know? Justin: I didn’t ask him this on the show, but in my opinion, if you have any kind of health condition—any kind of health issue—I think the first place to start is your mouth. Kate: Yeah, I was going to ask him that too. I had so many things. I just kind of clammed up on that. I was just taking notes and listening. I’m so interested in this whole thing, so I was just trying to soak it up. Justin: So this face that you were enthralled with his voice. Kate: I was. He has an amazing voice. He does. He has the best voice. Justin: He does, doesn’t he? Kate: I have a thing for voices. Justin: And you have a thing for southern voices. Kate: I do. Southern men. Sorry. At least you’re not threatened. Justin: I’m not. I love Dr. Nunnally. Kate: He is amazing. Justin: Yeah, it’s just worth it because if you have some of these health issues, the first place to start is your mouth and like I’ve heard him say in other interviews that the types of toxins they are getting out of people’s mouths are just incredible, like will kill animals. And I mean it’s botulism and all these kind of crazy things. And so you can’t have an immune system that’s constantly being bombarded by these toxins and be taking chlorella and drinking green juice and expecting miraculous results. I mean those things are going to help a lot and so will sweating and everything else, but you can’t have these toxins just pouring on your immune system all day, all night. Kate: Well, and I thought it was fascinating. Like he said—it really resonated with what he said—about being able to sweat better once he started releasing a bunch of… I don’t know if he said heavy metals or toxins, and he said people who don’t sweat… I’ve always heard that you are a little bit more toxic because you’re not sweating that stuff out, and man, I totally was just like him. I couldn’t sweat. Justin: Really? Kate: Remember how I always said, “I just don’t sweat”? I could go run three miles and barely break a sweat. Justin: Yeah, that’s right. Kate: So having the sauna and doing these detox things for myself has just been… I love that he said that though. He said it was so important to get in the sauna. It was important to go take better charge and better care of what he was doing to try to eliminate those things, especially as a dental practitioner or a dentist, just being in that field. Gosh, you’ve got to be so careful. Justin: Yeah. And he overcame his neurological issues with the vitamin C. Kate: Can you believe that story? Justin: Yeah. Kate: Gosh. Justin: Isn’t that amazing? Kate: That’s amazing. Justin: Yeah. Kate: Vitamin C. I mean we can’t say enough about that. I’ve actually never had an intravenous vitamin C, but… Justin: I had that… Kate: When we went there. Justin: Yep, during the… But it was interesting. Gosh, another thing I didn’t get to him was they recommended when we were there to not take vitamin C for 48 hours before the procedure. Kate: Oh, I don’t remember that. Justin: And I wanted to ask him because I was thinking at the time “Gosh, that’s so strange” because vitamin C is such a great chelator. I think it helps to—among many things—but I think it helps to raise levels of cysteine or something, which is a precursor for glutathione. And I thought, “Why wouldn’t you want to take that?” And then they gave it to me intravenously, but there is some distinction there that you shouldn’t take it before procedure. Kate: I did not know. Justin: Yeah, like a surgery. Kate: Wow. Justin: I don’t think it has anything to do with the thinning of the blood, but it has some other issue. But yeah, he’s just great. Kate: Well, if you contact him, anybody out there, they will tell you exactly what you need to do before an appointment, I’m sure, and to make your arrangements and your time to be able to stay a few days, like we did. Justin: Yeah, we stayed for what, three days, I think? Kate: Yeah. My favorite memory of that trip is that you were so out of it after, you looked like you just came out of like a cloud after your acupressure and after your… And then when I drove you back to the hotel that night and there was a Laker playoff game, I believe, and we happened to catch it but you don’t really remember much of it. You were acting like you did at the time and the next day you were like, “What happened? Did we win?” You were so out of it. Justin: I know. Kate: Oh, it’s great. Justin: Oh, that’s so funny. Kate: But yeah, Dr. Nunnally is an amazing man and I can’t wait to go back. Justin: Yeah. What we did is we had panoramic x-rays that they wanted us to get, so we went to a local x-ray place and had panoramic x-rays so that they could see what’s going on and they test your blood and they test the biocompatibility of different crowns and different substances they can use instead of mercury for fillings. Kate: Yeah, that office is on it. They are on it. Justin: Oh my gosh. It’s amazing. So if you are interested, I would highly recommend Healthy Smiles For Life, Dr. Stuart Nunnally—just a great man doing great stuff. We have no financial interest in anything he does, but just love what he’s doing. So check him out and save up, put it on a Care Credit, maybe? Kate: Yeah, that’s what we had done, actually. Justin: That’s what we did. Kate: It was worth every penny. Justin: Yeah, you just pay it off. I mean it’s worth it. Kate: Yeah. Justin: Completely worth it. All right. So it’s time to wrap everything up. Hopefully you got some good stuff out of that interview and hopefully you got some nuggets that you can take away with you and share with your friends possibly. So if you would like to ever join us on these shows, they are now live on ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Live. If you want to make any comments about this show, this is Episode 180, so you just go to ExtremeHealthRadio.com/180 and you can enter your comments in the box below and I will respond to you, as well as other people. So you can kind of join the community that way. And what else? Anything else to wrap up here? Kate: I think we need to go swab some baking soda in my mouth because I ate a pear and I didn’t do what you did. I’m feeling guilty. Justin: Oh gosh. So hopefully you enjoyed the show, everybody, and we’ll catch you on the next episode. Kate: Bye. [ADVERTISEMENT] Thank you for listening to this episode. It’s time to go for now, but our mission does not end with this show. Justin and Kate will be back with another interview, packed full of ideas, discoveries and unique ways to regain your health. Head on over to ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Subscribe and instantly download our free gift to you that contains cutting edge strategies to start making healthy lifestyle changes today. [CLOSING COMMENTS] No material on this blog is intended to suggest that you should not seek professional medical care. Always work with qualified medical professionals, even as you educate yourself in the field of life through nutrition and alternative medicine. I’m not a doctor, nor am I offering readers or listeners medical advice of any kind. None of the information offered here should be interpreted as a diagnosis of any disease, nor an attempt to treat or prevent any disease or condition. While information in this blog and during this podcast is discussed in the context of numerous conditions, it can be dangerous to take action based on any of the information on this podcast or in this blog or to start any health program without first consulting a health professional. The content found here is for informational purposes only and is in no way intended as medical advice, as a substitute for medical counseling or as a treatment or cure for any disease or health condition and nor should it be construed as such. Always work with a qualified health practitioner or professional before making any changes to your diet, prescription drug use, lifestyle or exercise activities. The information is provided as-is and the reader or listener assumes all risks from the use, non-use or misuse of this information. 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Jun 1, 2025 • 33min

New Show: A Holistic Treatment For Prostate Cancer? The Promise of 4-Methylumbelliferone (4-MU)

Listen up men! Prostate cancer is a significant health concern for us guys. Right now it is ranking as the most commonly diagnosed cancer among men in the United States, excluding skin cancers. This year, in 2025, an estimated 313,780 new cases are expected to be diagnosed, and approximately 35,770 men are projected to die from the treatment of the disease. Most men above the age of 80 have prostate cancer and don’t even know it and die with it, not from it. Roughly 1 in 8 men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer during their lifetime, and about 1 in 44 men will die with it or from the treatments for it. Notably, prostate cancer is the second leading cause of cancer death in American men, following lung cancer. But that doesn’t mean you have to live in fear and it doesn’t mean we don’t know what causes prostate cancer. If you have a holistic treatment for prostate cancer in your back pocket and you know what drives its growth, all you have to do is stop participating in the cause and you have nothing to worry about. So let’s dive right in…. What Causes Prostate Cancer? Medical doctors throw their collective hands up in the air and claim “we don’t know what causes cancer.” False. Just because “they” don’t know, doesn’t mean people who actually do research don’t also know. They conflate “we” with mankind. I’m sorry to say mister educated “doctor” but we do know the causes of cancer and you don’t. There are many studies showing the causes of cancer. Apparently doctors forgot to read these articles. We now know that the causes of prostate cancer are influenced by environmental, lifestyle and to a much lesser degree genetic factors. Exposure to pesticides (I’m thinking glyphosate here specifically), particularly organochlorine pesticides like DDT, simazine, and lindane, has been significantly associated with a massive increase risk of prostate cancer​. Persistent organic pollutants (POPs) and phthalates, which are commonly found in plastics, have also been linked to prostate cancer development due to their endocrine-disrupting properties​. The elephant in the room is hydrogenated oils (vegetable and seed oils) have been found in many studies I’ve read to contribute to increased prostate cancer risk mostly because they are extremely proinflammatory​. More info on seed oils below… The other, more important elephant in the room is light. Blue light, causes cancers of all kinds. As does a lack of sunlight. If you’re worried about prostate cancer, then I would highly suggest limiting your exposure to man made light, while increasing your exposure to the light from God. To follow everything I’ve done to mitigate my light environment I’d recommend clicking here. If you want simple solutions invest in a pair of high quality blue blocking glasses, install Iris Tech on your computer and replace your LED lightbulbs in your home with these ones. Remember, nature heals. Inflammation (electron loss without antioxidants and electrons from the earth) causes all disease, including prostate cancer. Lastly from a dietary perspective sugar-sweetened beverages (think high fructose corn syrup here) have been associated with a higher likelihood of prostate cancer, possibly due to insulin resistance and chronic inflammation​. Even commonly used mass-market multivitamins (for vitamins and supplements, I recommend Mitolife) have been linked to prostate cancer risk, possibly due to synthetic additives and imbalanced nutrient content​. When taking supplements it’s critical to know what you’re putting in your body. Moreover, occupational exposure to terbufos, an agricultural chemical, has been identified as a significant environmental risk factor for prostate cancer​. Symptoms of Prostate Cancer Prostate cancer often develops without noticeable symptoms in its early stages. As a result most doctors will tell you to get checked often. My personal philosophy is to live an anti cancer lifestyle and avoid going to medical doctors for checkups. Here’s why. But if you’re not going to take care of yourself, I would recommend checkups. The other nuance about checkups is to ask yourself “what would I do if i were diagnosed with XYZ disease?”. If you already know the answer (and it’s not chemotherapy, radiation, surgery or drugs) then why go get tested? I promote taking radical responsibility for your health. Anyway…as prostate cancer progresses, you might experience urinary symptoms, including frequent urination, difficulty starting or stopping urination, weak urine flow, or the sensation of incomplete bladder emptying​. These are the common symptoms but just because you have these symptoms of prostate cancer, doesn’t mean you have prostate cancer. Blood in the urine or semen (hematuria or hematospermia) might also be a warning sign to look out for​. If it has advanced to any degree you might have some bone pain—particularly in the hips, back, or ribs—which MIGHT be a sign that the cancer has spread to your bones​. Erectile dysfunction or unexplained weight loss and fatigue could also be symptoms but again, just because you have these doesn’t mean you have prostate cancer​. These symptoms highlight the importance of proactive health practices to prevent prostate cancer in the first place. 4-Methylumbelliferone (4-MU): A Potential Breakthrough in Prostate Cancer Treatment What Is 4-MU? 4-Methylumbelliferone (4-MU) is a naturally occurring coumarin derivative that has been used in Europe and Asia as a liver-supportive supplement under the name hymecromone​. While initially recognized for its role in promoting bile flow, research over the last decade has been focused on its very strong anti-cancer properties. The exciting part is that it seems to be really effective on  prostate cancer, pancreatic cancer, breast cancer, and osteosarcoma​. How exciting is that as a holistic treatment for prostate cancer? Discovery and Mechanism of Action The interesting thing about 4-MU was that researches first noticed its ability to inhibit hyaluronic acid (HA) synthesis, a molecule crucial to cancer progression, metastasis, and immune evasion​. This is a huge deal. Absolutely HUGE. You see prostate cancer cells rely on HA to promote their growth and spread, making HA inhibition a novel therapeutic approach. I haven’t read other studies showing how other cancers use HA to spread, but my work is not done! Other studies have shown that 4-MU not only blocks HA production but also induces cancer cell apoptosis, reduces tumor size, and prevents metastasis​. In my opinion (I’m not a doctor but just a health researcher who loves studying researcher journals) 4-MU is one of the first things I would consider as my primary holistic treatment for prostate cancer. Effectiveness Against Prostate Cancer A pivotal study I read a few years ago, was published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute (JNCI) in 2015. It’s linked up below. It found that 4-MU is a very effective, non-toxic oral chemopreventive and therapeutic agent for prostate cancer​. Has your oncologist read this study? If not, why not? In research using TRAMP mice, a well-established model for human prostate cancer, 4-MU….. now get this….completely abrogated tumor formation and metastasis at doses of 450 mg/kg/day​. Additional Research and References Here are some studies that I would HIGHLY suggest you read and share with your doctor if you are serious about a holistic treatment for prostate cancer. Most medical doctors simply don’t have time to read studies like this or even do deep research. Most likely your oncologist will not believe the studies or try to disparage their design in some way. Their goal is to get you on chemotherapy or radiation. They’ll even go so far as to say, we don’t want you to consider 4-MU AND we want you to take chemotherapy but don’t take any antioxidants with chemo because it’ll “prevent the medicine from working“. I’ve seen many a person die this way. It’s sad. Very sad. As an aside, if I were forced to take chemotherapy, here’s what I would take. Anyway here are the research papers you should consider reading… 4-MU and Prostate Cancer: Dietary Supplement 4-Methylumbelliferone: An Effective Chemopreventive and Therapeutic Agent for Prostate Cancer (J Natl Cancer Inst, 2015) 4-MU and Ovarian Cancer: 4-Methylumbelliferone inhibits ovarian cancer growth by suppressing thymidine phosphorylase expression (Journal of Ovarian Research, 2014) 4-MU and Bone Cancer: 4-Methylumbelliferone suppresses tumorigenicity in vitro and metastatic lesions of bone in vivo (Int J Cancer, 2012) 4-MU and Pancreatic Cancer: 4-Methylumbelliferone suppresses tumor progression in SCID mice injected with pancreatic cancer cells (Pancreas, 2017) Sylvester Researchers Report Prevention of Lethal Prostate Cancer Safety and Availability One of the most exciting aspects in my opinion of 4-MU is its exceptional safety profile. A 2015 review confirmed my suspicion that 4-MU is extremely well-tolerated in humans (just like chemotherapy! Lol) at doses up to 2400 mg per day with no significant side effects​. But (and there always has to be a butt right?), despite its effectiveness, 4-MU is not widely available in the U.S. for cancer treatment, largely due to regulatory and pharmaceutical industry barriers​. In other words, drug companies cannot profit from it, so they’d rather you die instead. You cannot find 4-MU anywhere but I did find it at the link below. I want to preface this for my own safety. This is not a cure for prostate cancer and you should always check with your licensed medical doctor before starting any treatment. I am not affiliated or compensated in any way with the company or website below. With that said, if my doctor told me I had prostate cancer the first thing I would do is start taking 4-MU. But you have to make your own medical choices and do what’s best for you. 4MU 4-methylumbelliferone (4MUPro™) Hope for Prostate Cancer Patients For men diagnosed with prostate cancer, 4-MU represents (to me) a super exciting breakthrough in non-toxic cancer therapy. With its ability to inhibit tumor growth, prevent metastasis, and work synergistically with other natural compounds, this supplement should be a cornerstone of a holistic treatment for prostate cancer. Ideally it would include other nutraceuticals as well. 4-MU is just one of many exciting breakthroughs for prostate cancer I would explore. I’ve detailed all the other ones in my Healthy Prostate Protocol that you might enjoy. Medical “professional” say things like “further research and advocacy may help bring 4-MU into mainstream cancer care, offering new hope to those battling the disease” but that’s code for, “Even though we have remedies for cancer, we can’t profit from them so we’re okay with you dying“. If they can’t make money, they’re good with you dying. This is why it’s so critical to read research and understand how the human body works. Remember you cannot continue to live a pro carcinogenic lifestyle, take a pill and think you’ll be healed. If you’re banging your head against a wall, taking a Tylenol or white willow bark if you’re naturally inclined isn’t the way to get rid of your headache. The way you get rid of the headache is to stop banging your head against the wall. If you want to speed that process, take some white willow bark and avoid banging your head against the wall. Conclusion I want to be clear, 4-MU isn’t the only natural substance that’s anti cancer in nature. If I were ever diagnosed with prostate cancer and were looking for a holistic treatment for it, I would avoid all the things I mentioned that cause cancer cells to grow. Then I would o certain lifestyle practices, change my diet, upgrade my light environment (by wearing blue blocking glasses, installing Iris Tech and replacing my lightbulbs) and get sunshine daily. Then adding to that I would take 4-MU. Getting diagnosed with cancer, is what my teacher Jim Rohn says an “invitation to life change“. If you’d like more information about many suppressed natural treatments for cancer I’d look into my Kancer Protocol (misspelling on purpose) in general and my Healthy Prostate Protocol in particular. I’ll go over some other exciting holistic treatments for prostate cancer in future articles but I wanted to let you know specifically about 4-MU. I hope that it gives you some hope with your outlook for the future. Happy healing! Questions: Have you been diagnosed with prostate cancer? If so, what treatments have you tried? Did they work? Does prostate cancer run in your family? Comment below! The post New Show: A Holistic Treatment For Prostate Cancer? The Promise of 4-Methylumbelliferone (4-MU) appeared first on Extreme Health Radio.
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Jun 1, 2025 • 60min

Michael King – How Proper Food Combining Can Eliminate Candida Overgrowth

[include file=get-in-itunes.html] If you have candida, yeast infections or fungal overgrowth you’ll definitely want to listen to Michael King from Vitality Herbs & Clay talk about why people have such a problem dealing with this condition. He also talks about why clays are so detoxifying to the body as well as bitter herbs. After you listen, comment below and tell us what you think! We discuss the following and so much more: The difference between his clay and other clays Why people are not food combining properly and this is leading to candida The power of whole earthen minerals and bitter herbs for digestion and better absorption of foods And so much more! Did you know improper food combining could be leading to your yeast infections? – Click to tweet this! – Get Notified: [ois skin=”Show Page2″] – Please Subscribe: Subscribe To Our Radio Show For Updates! – Other Shows: [include file=show-links.html] | All Shows With This Guest – Show Date: Wednesday 11/28/2012 – Show Guest: Michael King – Guest Info: Michael King is a Life Enrichment Consultant, a researcher of Natures most powerful healing resources the world over, the author of “Detoxify, Nourish & Build Three Essentials for Vibrant Health”. Read More… – Topic: Candida, Herbs, Clay, Detoxification – Guest Website(s): http://www.vitalityherbsandclay.com/ (Tell them you heard them on Extreme Health Radio & get a free 2 week supply of earthen ormus with any order!) (Guest Social Links Below. Please Follow Them!) Facebook https://www.facebook.com/vitalityherbsandclay Twitter https://twitter.com/ClayEnthusiast Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/vitalityherbsandclay – Guest Product(s): Click Below To Checkout The Products While Listening! 🙂 N/A – Items Mentioned: N/A – Connect: Discuss This Episode With Others – Duration/Size: 00:59:47 / 56.35 MB – Rate: Rate This Guest! – Rate This Show: [ratings] – Download: Right Click To Download – Donate: (Opens in a new window – Every bit helps us to keep delivering even better shows that help you heal & thrive!) – Support & Share 🙂 Copy and paste the following HTML code into any web page. Or you can grab a badge! Interview with Michael King – Video Version: Full Youtube Interview (Opens in a new window) Youtube Time – Follow Us!: Please consider ReTweeting the following update to share this episode… Michael King says improper food combining is causing candida and yeast infections!extremehealthradio.com/41 — Extreme Health Radio (@ehrshow) November 29, 2012 – Watch a very helpful video [video_lightbox_youtube video_id=kNTs_YgKivw width=640 height=480 anchor=tutorial] for this page. – Subscribe to iTunes or Leave a Review Subscribe to iTunes podcast Click Here to Subscribe via RSS (non-iTunes feed) Leave a review Thank you so much for your support, and if you have yet to leave a rating or review, please leave me an honest one on iTunes by clicking here. It will help the show and its ranking in iTunes immensely! I appreciate it! – Podcast Transcript: Coming soon. Thanks for your patience! The post Michael King – How Proper Food Combining Can Eliminate Candida Overgrowth appeared first on Extreme Health Radio.
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May 31, 2025 • 1h 34min

Mark McAfee – The Health Benefits of Drinking Raw Milk & Dairy Products, The Immune System + Much More!

We talkd with Mark McAfee today from Organic Pastures here in California all about raw dairy products and the benefits they can have for your health. Raw dairy consists mainly of raw milk, raw cheese, raw butter, raw cream and raw kefir. We don’t do a lot of dairy in our lives but we do like some raw butter and some cheese from time to time. It’s very important that when getting raw milk that you know that the milk is clean and the cows are happy, grazing on grass, able to roam free in the pasture, they’re not locked up in cages or standing in their own excrement which is many times the case in conventional dairy farms. It’s also important that the milk isn’t heated or treated by pasteurization or homogenization. Heat damage can cause protein molecules to be incredibly difficult to digest. Keeping the enzymes and bacteria alive is critical for being able to process and assimilate this raw food into your body. We dispelled many of the concerns and myths people have about drinking raw milk and taking dairy products in general. Some of the areas of concern people have that we covered are: Lactose intolerance The casein molecule IGF 1 growth factor and it’s supposed “correlation” to cancer Hormones Parasites Bacteria Radiation from Fukushima How humans are the only mammals to not wean off their mother’s milk And much more! Mark McAfee was a really great guest and a fireball of information. You can tell this man is passionate about his cows and the work he’s doing at his ranch. He’s doing some great things and we hope you like this show. Pass it on to your friends please!!! I hope you liked the show. If you did, please share it! 🙂 Show Notes For This Episode: Click here to download the show notes for THIS EPISODE. Commercials During This Episode: Commercial #1 – One World Whey Protein Powder Commercial #2 – Vitamix Blenders Commercial #3 – Raw Chef Uncooking Program Commercial #4 – Omron Personal Nebulizers Commercial #5 – Medical Biomats For Healing Find Extreme Health Radio On: [include file=showpage-itunes-soundcloud-stitcher.html] Please Subscribe: Subscribe To Our Radio Show For Updates! Other Shows: [include file=show-links.html] Listen to other shows with this guest. Show Date: Friday 2/6/2015 Show Guest: Mark McAfee Guest Info: Founder of Organic Pastures Dairy, Mark is internationally recognized as an expert in raw milk safety and production. He has spoken in more than 25 states and three countries on the subject. In 2000, Mark brought together the team and systems that founded OPDC and then in the last 14 years grew the CA based company to include 65 employees, 24 delivery trucks, more than 600 retail stores, 15 farmers markets and 30 buyers clubs. Mark founded the Raw Milk Institute.Org in 2011, to teach, research and create low risk raw milk production systems and practices for the humanitarian benefit of the emerging raw milk markets. In addition, he taught paramedic medicine at a local County Health Department and worked for sixteen years as an EMS paramedic responding to more than 15,000 calls. Mark served on a STAR rescue team and airborne EMS services, while also serving as marketing director and operations manager for a $30 million dollar EMS company. He is pre-med trained, and is an experienced medical educator. Mark started flying at 15 and is an active clinic mission pilot for LIGA, “the flying doctors”. Mark flies all over California and the western USA meeting raw milk customers for much requested free “Share the Secret” presentations. Show Topic: Raw milk, dairy, enzymes, cows, grass fed, organic, whole milk, organic pastures, goat milk, cream, dairy, butter, kefir, fermentation, bacteria, cheese, fat, pasteurization, homogenization, sour milk Guest Website(s): http://www.organicpastures.com/ Social Websites: Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Organic-Pastures Twitter https://twitter.com/OrganicPastures Others https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-HvDXQykVrCCGBSS1kb4IQ http://instagram.com/organicpasturesdairy Guest Product(s): Please Support Us If You Are Able: (Opens in a new window – Every bit helps us to keep delivering even better shows that help you heal & thrive!) Support & Share 🙂 Copy and paste the following HTML code into any web page. Or you can grab a badge! Interview with Mark McAfee Video Version: Full Youtube Interview (Opens in a new window) Youtube Time Share This Show Socially!: Mark McAfee from @OrganicPastures joined us to talk #RawMilk & #RawDairy products, #bacteria & #ImmuneSystem. Listen http://t.co/CRyFm8JE7E — Extreme Health Radio (@ehrshow) February 7, 2015 Radio Show Transcript: [spp-transcript] The post Mark McAfee – The Health Benefits of Drinking Raw Milk & Dairy Products, The Immune System + Much More! appeared first on Extreme Health Radio.
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May 30, 2025 • 1h 1min

Barry Carter – The Magical & Quantum Qualities Of Ormus Like Levitation & Teleportation & How It Can Benefit Your Health

[include file=get-in-itunes.html] Barry Carter talks about what ormus is, how we can make it, how we can use it, where we can buy it and most importantly all the ways in which ormus can benefit our health. From overcoming diseases, to reversing gray hair, regrowing tissues, Ormus truly is a magical substance that we know very little about. Until now… Please listen to this interview and pass it on to your friends! Please “Like” it on Facebook and do whatever you can to help spread the message of hope to people! I would be very grateful. 🙂 After you listen, comment below and tell us what you think! We discuss the following and so much more: What is the philosophers stone, universal solvent, the red lion? Tell us the story of King Tut’s tail How is it good for the body Where can we buy it How can we make it Are there different ways to make this? Would it be good for an ACL? Does Aloe or Mushrooms contain Ormus How can we use Ormus in our gardens? Can vortexing create ormus? Is there ormus in ocean water? What kind of effects have you had taking ormus? Ormus can levitate, teleport & do magical things. Learn how consuming Ormus increases health. – Click to tweet this! – Get Notified: [ois skin=”Show Page2″] – Please Subscribe: Subscribe To Our Radio Show For Updates! – Other Shows: [include file=show-links.html] | All Shows With This Guest – Show Date: 10/1/2012 – Show Guest: Barry Carter – Guest Info: Barry Carter is a leading authority on a substance called ORMUS, also known as White Powder Gold, the focus of Laurence Gardner’s Lost Secret of the Sacred Ark. Barry has been working with ORMUS elements since 1989. He travels around the world giving presentations on the historic contexts, biological implications, increasing scientific documentation, and practical engineering applications of these extraordinary substances. Read More… The ORMUS elements are the precious metal elements in a natural non-metallic form. In this form they are much more common than they are in their metallic form. They exhibit strange properties. Sometimes they disappear, levitate or pass through solid objects. They seem to be related to the ancient alchemical materials, and have been linked to the Biblical manna, shewbread, King Solomon’s gold and the Egyptian mfktz discussed by Gardner. The ORMUS elements have been extracted from the air, water and the ground. Their relative abundance makes them quite easy to extract and concentrate using relatively simple chemical and mechanical methods. – Topic: Ormus – Guest Website(s): http://www.subtleenergies.com/ (Guest Social Links Below. 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I’m really excited to have today’s guest with us. His name is Barry Carter and I’ll be introducing him in just a moment. I hope you’re having a great day in whatever you’re doing. It’s another hot day here in Southern California and it’s going to be around 100 degrees again, so there’s quite a heatwave here. We are doing shows three days a week, on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. Today is Monday, October 1, 2012 and this is Episode #15. Just so you know, you can find this show, the show notes and the transcribed version at extremehealthradio.com/15. If you have any questions for the guest, you can email them to me at justin@extremehealthradio.com or you can call them in, leave a message and we’ll play it on the air, at (949)391-7363. Today’s show is brought to you, once again, by my favorite produce, the Vitamix blender. It’s the most amazing kitchen appliance we have and we love it. We use it three days a week and couldn’t live without it. If you’re in the market to buy a Vitamix, please consider doing it through us and we’ll get a little commission. That will help support us. You can check that out at extremehealthradio.com/vitamix. I’ll be introducing my guest in just one moment, but I wanted to talk a little bit about our upcoming show schedule. Next week, we have Dr. Bob Marshall out of Austin, Texas. He has a natural cure for just about everything and is an amazing guy. We have Dr. Charles Partito on Monday, 8th. He is the owner of the Ejuva Cleanse, so if you’re looking to do some colon cleansing, check that show out. We have Dr. Nenah Sylver who does a lot of interesting work with energy medicine, and using devices like Rife machines. It’s really incredible what she’s doing. We’ve also got Nadine Artemis next week too, who is the owner of Living Libations. Let me just read a quick little bio of Barry Carter and we’ll introduce him and get going. He is a leading authority on a substance called ormus. It’s also known as White Powder Gold. the focus of Laurence Gardner’s Secret of the Sacred Ark. He has been working with ormus elements since 1989 and he travels around the world, giving presentations on the historic contexts, biological implications, increasing scientific documentation and practical engineering applications of these extraordinary substances. Ormus elements are the precious metal elements in a natural, non-metallic form. In this form, they are much more common than they are in the metallic form and they exhibit strange properties, like being able to disappear, levitate, or pass through solid objects. They seem to be related to the ancient alchemical materials and have been linked to the Biblical manna, Shewbread, King Solomon’s gold and the Egyptian mfktz, discussed by Gardner. Nonetheless, Barry Carter is an expert in ormus and the technology around that. Thank you Barry for joining us today on today’s episode. BARRY CARTER: My pleasure. JUSTIN: You are calling in from Oregon, is that right? BARRY CARTER: I live in Eastern Oregon, also known as Eastern Orgone! JUSTIN: Are you guys getting heatwaves up there, like we are here? BARRY CARTER: Summer hasn’t stopped. JUSTIN: It’s amazingly hot down here. You have a website called subtleenergies.com and on your bio it says you have been working with ormus since 1989. I know you have told this story a thousand times, but you ran into someone, a long time ago, who had poisoned himself with arsenic and lead, is that right? BARRY CARTER: A friend of mine, a guy named Jim, go his hands into some mine waste water and this water somehow got into his body, through his hands, and it immediately sort of knocked him out. He fell to the ground and when he opened his hands, after he had had his hands in the water, fibers of gold came out the backs of his hands. Now, this seemed a little bit odd at the time. There was something, apparently, in his body that moved the ormus elements toward the metallic form. That maybe what caused the lead and arsenic poisoning, but it may also be what saved him, because he was sick for a year, but after that I talked him into taking some hydrogen peroxide, just very small amounts mixed with water. That seemed to help detox the toxic metals in his body. JUSTIN: What happened after that? Did it clear right away, or did it take time? BARRY CARTER: It took about two weeks and he pretty much was fully recovered in a month. Then in 1995, that was back in 1989, I heard about David Hudson and went to one of his lectures in Portland, Oregon. I took my friend Jim with me. He couldn’t afford to go at the time, but I paid his way, and we learned more about ormus. Basically, we learned about what it was, the problem for Jim and why the problem resolved itself. JUSTIN: Interesting. Now, David Hudson, is he still alive, is he still with us? BARRY CARTER: Oh yes. JUSTIN: Okay, now he does primarily work with ormus or with other substances as well? BARRY CARTER: Primarily works with what? JUSTIN: Does David Hudson only work with ormus, or does he do other types of work as well? BARRY CARTER: He is a cotton farmer, or was, in Arizona, and he noticed, while he was working on his cotton farm, that there was these white materials that showed up in his soil. He tried to get them assayed and they wouldn’t assay, so this triggered his exploration of them. He mostly worked with other chemists. He was not a professional chemist himself, and this allowed him to basically identify some of the materials that were unidentifiable in using most conventional methods of assay and so on. He,in fact, purified these materials and they showed up as pure nothing. JUSTIN: Really. BARRY CARTER: He’d have a white substance and when it was subjected to assay, they was, there’s nothing there. JUSTIN: Wow. So but he knew intrinsically that there was something there. BARRY CARTER: Yeah. Since David Hudson’s work, and this, his work started in the late ’70’s and continued through well, still continues today. Um what he found was that these minerals are nature mineral nutrients that are present in every plant that was tested, brain tissue of cows and pigs, and in every rock source that he tested as well. So rock sources had higher levels that others but it was basically everywhere. JUSTIN: So it’s in the air, it’s in basically every thing. BARRY CARTER; It’s in the air, it’s in the water, it’s in the soil, it’s in rocks, the problem is that whenever we harvest food from a given area and ship or somewhere else we’re removing these minerals. And because we don’t know they’re there we’re not replacing them. So we’re depleting the soil. David Brauer, a famous environmentalist, back in the late ’80’s and, I mean late ’90’s talked to a bunch of people at an environmental law conference in Eugene, Oregon and told us that we’ve lost half of our top soil. America has lost half of our top soil in the last 80 years. Now we can’t do that again, and continue to eat. So this is something that should be very interesting to anyone who eats food or breaths air. If you don’t eat food of breathe air, don’t worry about it. JUSTIN: Yeah,you’re okay. Well the breatharians will be okay with that then. BARRY CARTER: No. They breathe air. JUSTIN: Awe that’s right, that’s the way they get it. BARRY CARTER: We’re systematically depleting these minerals by shipping food off site. And then ultimately flushing out waste into the ocean. JUSTIN: Now when you say minerals, do you mean the ormus state minerals or the actual minerals itself? BARRY CARTER: Well, these elements are in the ormus state more commonly than they are as metals. For example, in sea water it appears that ormus rhodium, ormus iridium and ormus gold are more in sea water than calcium is in sea water. And calcium and magnesium are two of the most common elements in sea water. There’s more sodium and salt but those are the two, let’s say they’re three, four and five, or something like that in terms of how common minerals are in sea water. JUSTIN: Wow. So conventional science, do they recognize that there is such a thing as ormus, or do they not even know about it? BARRY CARTER: There’s, they probably don’t. Science, science typically, many scientists typically feel as if science is completed. Science is done. We’ve already figured out everything that there is to know and what else is there, what else can we figure out? JUSTIN: Yes, we’ve figured it all out. BARRY CARTER: In 1895, Lord Kelvin, President of the Royal Society, said heavier than air flying machines are impossible. In 1923, Robert Millikan, Nobel Prize Physicist, said there is no likelihood that man can ever tap the power of the atom. Charles H. Duell, Director of the U.S. Patent Office in 1899, said everything that can be invented has been invented. JUSTIN: This is 1889? BARRY CARTER: 1899. JUSTIN: 1899, amazing. BARRY CARTER: Thomas Watson, who was the chairman of IBM in 1943, said I think there is a world market for maybe five computers. Bill Gates, the founder of Microsoft, in 1981 said this about computer memory, 640k ought to be enough for anybody. JUSTIN: Oh my gosh! BARRY CARTER: We’ve seen scientists thinking that, hey, we’ve come as far as we can go and there is nothing new. But obviously new discoveries are being made all the time, and we think that this is what’s going on with the ormus. We’ve discovered something that is totally new. When these ormus minerals are put on the ground, one farmer noticed that after he’d added these minerals, he had 8″ of new topsoil in one season. 8″ of black soil, or dark brown soil, in one season. JUSTIN: Over how much an area of land? BARRY CARTER: Oh, several acres of land. JUSTIN: That’s amazing. BARRY CARTER: Others have noticed, and have documented, that their plants go twice as big and faster. I’ve documented and now realize that we’re right at the beginning of our exploration of these minerals. We”re just starting to get information about how important they are for health, the health of plants, animals and people. I’ve noticed in my house that I water my house plants every six weeks instead of once a week like I used to. JUSTIN: Because of the ormus? BARRY CARTER: Because the ormus minerals seem to provide the nutrients. I don’t know if you’ve heard of this, but there is a bit of an obesity epidemic. JUSTIN: I’ve heard! BARRY CARTER: When people don’t get all the nutrients they need, they remain hungry. So, you eat some sugary material and you’re still hungry, so you eat more sugary material. This is good for the people who sell sugary material, but it’s not necessarily good for the people who eat it. When we put ormus into the food, people seem to eat less. Less food seems to do, I think I’m eating about half of the food I used to eat. I’m a lacto vegetarian. I’ve been a lacto vegetarian since 1969 or 1970. I was a raw foodist for 3 years, starting in January 1, 1970, and I’ve been mostly raw for most of the rest of my life. When I started consuming ormus supplements, I just noticed that I wasn’t as hungry and I wasn’t eating as much. Plants are similar, plants don’t get fat if they eat too much. They just waste water. Plants transpire water into the air, in order to pull more minerals into their roots. The only way that they can take more water in, is by getting more water out through the air. So, they waste water. I think this is happening with my plants in my greenhouse and in the windows and stuff around my house, is that they use a whole lot less water, because they’re not hungry as much. They’re getting all the nutrients they need and they don’t have to pull more nutrients in by transpiring more water through their leaves. JUSTIN: I would imagine that’s another good way to keep your soil from completely being depleted, because if the plants are needing to pull the minerals from the soil if they’re getting it from the ormus, then it might keep your soil lasting longer as well. BARRY CARTER: Absolutely, but we still harvest these plants and ship them somewhere else depleting the minerals. So, the best way to replace those minerals, I think, is to get some concentrate ormus minerals from sea water, by adding a little bit of sodium hydroxide, also known as lye. You can’t eat lye by itself but it is used in food processing, like olives are often soaked in lye water. You add this lye to the sea water, you get a white precipitate and that’s the good stuff. Putting it on the farm, garden or food crops (I don’t put it on my lawn, because I don’t like cutting my lawn) seems to double growth in two years. My plums on the tree in my front yard, this year were about 2-1/2 times the size of my neighbors plums. Mine were ready to eat and theirs weren’t. This was at the beginning of September. Furthermore, there was probably 5-10 times as many plums on my tree than there were on my neighbor’s tree. My neighbor’s tree is the parent tree of my tree. JUSTIN: And it had less. BARRY CARTER: It had less and it’s a smaller tree. The first 2 feet of my tree are 5 times the volume of wood than the first 2 feet of my neighbor’s tree. JUSTIN: That’s amazing. When we come back, we’re going to take a short break, I want to ask you a couple of questions like some of the practical uses of ormus and maybe how we can buy it, or how we could make it. By the way, if you haven’t seen these pictures on subtleenergy.com Barry has tons of pictures of his walnuts and other plants he has and fruits he has grown with ormus, so definitely check that out. That’s at subtleenergy.com and we’re with Barry Carter. We’ll be right back after this break. KATE: Hi, this is Kate and thanks for listening to the show. I want to tell you about this product I love, called Heal Yourself 101 by Markus Rothkranz and you can find it at extremehealthradio.com/heal. It’s 192 pages, paperback or ebook and if you have any kind of health issues at all, whether you’re overweight, having sleeping problems, thyroid issues, diabetes, heart problems, even autism, arthritis, MS, any chronic diseases or stomach issues. Think of it as the Owners Manual for staying healthy. Once you learn how the body works, you can prevent all major diseases, as well as recover from them, without the use of medications that do more damage in the long run. So, for $29 you can’t go wrong. So click on extremehealthradio.com/heal and get yours today. JUSTIN: Okay, we’re with Barry Carter from subtleenergies.com talking about the substance known as ormus. I wanted to ask you Barry about a store that’s on your website regarding a cat. I think you called him King Tut, and the situation that happened after his tail, I’m not sure if it got bitten off, or somehow he didn’t have his tail, and you used ormus on that cat. BARRY CARTER: What happened was that there was a lady, whose name is Dana Dudley, and Dana is kind of a nerd. Dana put some ormus on one side of her face, some ormus oil, and not on the other, wondering if it would help tighten u p her skin and reduce wrinkles. On Picasa you can search for Dana Dudley and you can see pictures of her face, that she put the ormus oil on, and the wrinkles have mostly disappeared. She’s only like 60 years old, but I think she was about 58 when she did this. The other side of her face doesn’t have wrinkles, let’s say the wrinkles are very much diminished. People tell me that I have the skin of a 30 year old, in terms of wrinkles and stuff. I sure hope I don’t have to give it back, but anyway Dana got a new kitten and named him Tut after King Tut, and put him outside because he was crying all the time. She put him on her back porch and kind of left the back door open in case he had to get outside to do his business, you know. That night, there was a terrible wind storm (in North Carolina) and the roof of her shed fell to the ground. The next day, when her cat came in the door, he was literally dragging his tail behind him. It was just held on by a thin thread of skin. There was about 8″ of tail that was cut off and she saved this segment of tail. There was about 1″ of tail that was remaining and it grew a scab. When the scab fell off, she saved that. So, on my website, I have a picture of the scab and the tail that came off, plus pictures of the cat. She was putting hand cream on him, like the cream that she put on one side of her face. She was putting this cream on her hands and Tut came over and started licking her hand. She thought. This is yukky tasting hand cream, what’s going on. The cat seemed to know. He kept licking her hand, so she put more cream on and he kept licking her hand. I have a video of her putting, I would say 3-4 teaspoons of this hand cream on her hand and Tut licking it all off. The didn’t stop. This was before his tail was completely regrown, as you can see in the pictures that I took on the subtle energies website. Do a search for Tut’s tail, or tale, either way, and you will find some pictures of Tut and his tail and how his tail grew back. Some animals, like lizards, can regrow tails, but nobody has ever heard of mammals regrowing appendages. JUSTIN: That’s amazing. In order to do that, it would have to have grown new blood vessels, I’m not sure what else is in a cat’s tail. BARRY CARTER: Cartilege, bone and something like 18 joints in a cat’s tail. JUSTIN: Did it grow the entire tail, or just a bit of it. BARRY CARTER: The entire tail, fully grown. JUSTIN: I’m looking at your pictures right now and it looks like there’s only a little bit that was actually left after the roof fell on it. BARRY CARTER: Yes, there was about 1″ of tail left. JUSTIN: That’s amazing. Have you had any experience or have any knowledge of maybe some anecdotal evidence of people using this. I know for me, I have a torn ACL in my knee that’s not completely torn, which is a good thing, but it’s also a piece of tissue that, according to doctors, doesn’t regrow itself. Have you had any experience with people being able to regrow organs or tissue using ormus? BARRY CARTER: One of the ormus producers, a fellow who calls himself ‘mehoo’, his name is Michael McCabe. has gotten 4″ taller in his late 50’s, since he started taking ormus, but he had shrunk 6″. There is another ormus product producer, who calls herself Rochelle. I think she has gotten 2-1/2″ taller or 3″ taller, but she had also shrunk, but she is taller than she was when she was a teenager. JUSTIN: Do you think this is doing something possibly with a levitative effect within the spinal column? BARRY CARTER: I think it’s regenerating the tissues in the spinal column. JUSTIN: Wow, that’s crazy. BARRY CARTER: I’ve also gotten taller, but I’m only like about 1/2″ taller than I was when I was a teen. JUSTIN: So, what types of levitative effects, as I’ve seen pictures and I know your familiar with David Wolfe, and I’ve seen pictures that he’s produced that show ice cubes with ormus in them and spike coming out and going vertically, a stalagtite or something, and it appears as if the ormus is trying to jump out of the ice cube. It’s producing a levitative effect and I know he talks a lot about the levitative effect of foods and things like that. So, ormus seems to do that as well? BARRY CARTER: Absolutely. In fact, there is some evidence, google Viktor Grebennikov. JUSTIN: I’ll do that right now. Google is great, it gives you the correct spelling. BARRY CARTER: Viktor Grebennikov is a Russian scientist, who basically built a flying platform, a little levitating platform, using some minerals he collected from insect wings, chitin, the exoskeleton of insects, and this chitin, basically when he put it in a certain pattern under the platform he was standing on, when he opened the wings of the platform so to speak, then this little thing would levitate. There is a picture of him levitating a few feet off the ground on this platform. There are several pictures of the platform and you will see a number of images for Viktor Grebennikov. JUSTIN: Yes, I’m looking at some of them right now. BARRY CARTER: There is quite a bit of new stuff on the web, that suggests that this material that behaves in a way that we’ve seen ormus behave. Insect wings and chitin. JUSTIN: Interesting and that would make sense, as mushrooms are quite interesting substances as well. BARRY CARTER: Yes, and insects eat plants. In fact everything comes from the soil. All living things come from the soil. So, if plants and animals concentrate these minerals and these minerals, I have some video on mhy website of ormus gold. My friend, Jim, made some ormus gold and I moved a magnet under it and it levitates away from the magnet. It literally levitates on a magnetic field. JUSTIN: Is the gold that you made in a liquid form or in a powder form? BARRY CARTER: This was a powder. Another fellow made some ormus out of azomite, just google ormus and azomite, and you will find a youtube video of this stuff levitating away from the magnet. Basically, that super conductive magnetic levitation. These materials also seem to levitate away from our fingers and things like that as well. So, if that’s the same thing that’s in the insect shells and wings and so on, that enables the Rabinkov to levitate, hey we could use something like that. JUSTIN: Now, do you have something on your website that kind of lays out the different ormus minerals, because I believe there is an ormus form for each of the minerals. Is that right? BARRY CARTER: So far, different people have more or less determined that there is something like 24 or 25 different elements, maybe 40 different elements, that have an ormus form. David Hudson says that many of the rarest elements have an ormus form. He didn’t specify how many, and a gentleman in Australia converted 24 different elements into the ormus form using the peroxide method, hydrogen peroxide and hydrochloric acid will dissolve most metals, and these can be precipitated as a white precipitate. That stuff has ormus properties and is unasayable. He did this on 24 different elements. So, it looks like the ormus elements, many of them are probably more common in the metallic form. JUSTIN: You know what would be really interesting to do, or to have a documentation, would be maybe there’s something like this out there, or maybe it’s on your website, but it would be really great if there was a chart that gave a list of all the ormus elements. I know that ormus copper, people use that to grow hair. It would be interesting to see if there is a list of at least 24 that there are now of the ormus elements and what types of things that that would effect in the body, like grey hair, rebuilding tissue or losing hair and things like that. Do you know if there is such a thing that is out on the internet? BARRY CARTER: There are some reports by a gentleman we call Essene and David Hudson’s reports. Nothing has been really thoroughly documented and replicated yet. That’s the big problem. JUSTIN: It’s still relatively new. BARRY CARTER: It’s very early in our exploration of these minerals. JUSTIN: Let me just take a quick break and we’ll get that out of the way. Then I want to ask you some questions as far as what types of behavior the ormus will exude when you’re working with it. I know you talked a little bit about that. When we come back, we’ll also talk about where people might be able to get some of this substance if they want to buy it, or if they want to make it. We’re with Barry Carter from subtleenergies.com and we’ll be right back after this break. I hope you’re enjoying the interview so far and are getting a lot out of it. I just wanted to talk really quickly about a program by Chris Kresser called The Healthy Baby Code. If you haven’t heard of Chris Kresser, he’s got a blog called chriskresser.com and he has put together an amazing course on how to have a healthy baby and how to avoid things like autism and childhood diseases. A lot of kids get leukemia and childhood diseases are rampant,so if you’re looking to avoid all that and to have the healthiest possible, definitely check out The Healthy Baby Code. You can find it at extremehealthradio.com/babycode. It comes with about 5-1/2 hours of video presentations, and audio presentations so that you can download to your ipod. It has hundreds of pages of resource material, an ebook and bonus files. You get all kinds of things like cheat sheets, meal plans, how to breast feed, how long to breast feed, natural birthing. He’s got the whole thing covered from A-Z in this course. I would highly recommend, if you’re looking to get pregnant, or if you already are pregnant, you’ve got to check this out. It’s The Healthy Baby Code by Chris Kresser, and again, you can find it at extremehealthradio.com/babycode. Okay, we’re with Barry Carter from subtleenergies.com and Barry. I wanted to ask you, sort of a selfish question about myself. I wanted to ask you, if I have a torn ACL, what form of ormus would I take to best work with a torn ACL? BARRY CARTER: Back in the 70’s, when I first learned about vitamins and minerals, I found that everybody has different nutrient needs. Some people would be getting plenty of calcium and not enough magnesium. Others were getting plenty of magnesium and not enough calcium. All of these minerals and vitamins, which are made of minerals, seemed to interact and work together with each other. So, I noticed that I didn’t get enough calcium, so I took a calcium-magnesium supplement and it worked for me. Other people had no problem with calcium and it wasn’t a problem for them. But they had problems with not enough vitamin-C or not enough bioflavonoids. Different things work with different people. So, what I always say is ‘you’re unique’, just like everyone else. What works for you is going to be different for what works best for other people. One thing that seems to be true, there was a guy named Maynard Murray who discovered sea energy agriculture and he discovered that there were certain minerals in sea water that were really beneficial. I think he is the guy who also tested sea water and found that the balance of minerals in sea water was pretty close to the balance of minerals in the blood. JUSTIN: Yes, I’ve heard that as well. I think it corresponds almost perfectly. BARRY CARTER: So that might be a good place to start. JUSTIN: Okay, what ormus mineral was given to King Tut? BARRY CARTER: He was given a product from Priestess Alchemy plus other things that I’m not really sure about. I’m not really sure what the other product is, but on my website, subtleenergies.com/ormus or, in the U.S subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/sources.htm that’s TW as in the work, you will find a list of ormus sources and ormus providers. JUSTIN: Great, I was going to ask you about that, okay. BARRY CARTER: The newest ones are at the top and the oldest ones are at the bottom. JUSTIN: These have all been, I guess, tested or are sources that you believe in and that you stand behind, I guess? BARRY CARTER: Right, these are all sources that some people have suggested they have good amounts of ormus in them. JUSTIN: Interesting, because I know there are a lot of products on the market that say there is ormus in there, but there’s really not. BARRY CARTER: Well, it’s my personal favorite hypothesis that 1/8 of the weight of all water is ormus. JUSTIN: 1/8 of the weight, interesting. BARRY CARTER: A scientist in Australia calculated what H2O should weigh, if you burn hydrogen and oxygen, this is what it should weigh. He said it would be 7.2 lbs per gallon, or something like that, or 7.3. Ordinary water, even distilled water, weighs 8.3 lbs per gallon. So, there is something in water that nobody knows what it is. Nobody knows what it is is just about the definition of ormus. JUSTIN: Right, it’s kind of an unknown. It’s so complex and yet it seems so simple. Can you make ormus by vortexing water? I know there is a guy, Ron Cusson, who does a vortex with charging capsules. BARRY CARTER: Your Vitamix is a great way to do that. JUSTIN: How would you do that with water? BARRY CARTER: Well, you vortex it in a magnetic field. JUSTIN: Okay. BARRY CARTER: Now, we’re not concentrating the ormus in the water, or whatever we’ve got. We’re energizing the ormus. A little bit of energy is good, too much energy is probably bad, so start slow and just do it for a minute or so. JUSTIN: Okay. A while back, a few years ago, I watched a video, I forget who was doing it, but they were talking about going to your local hardware store and getting little magnetic strips that are sticky, like a sticker on one side. I think I placed two on each of the four sides of the blender and apparently that’s supposed to do it. I just did it just because hey, it doesn’t take any extra work to do and it won’t do anything bad. So I just figured hey, if it’s going to be as good as what they were talking about, I might as well just do it, because what the heck. Would that be doing what you were just talking about, vortexing it using magnets? BARRY CARTER: Yes, you’re vortexing it in a magnetic field. JUSTIN: So you’re not concentrating it, you’re just energizing the ormus? BARRY CARTER: Exactly. There’s a very simple trap you can make with a tin can and speaker magnets, or magnets that you get out of the inside of a hard drive. You take these little magnets, the hard drive magnets are a lot stronger than the speaker magnets, and you put 3-4 of the hard drive magnets, or big speaker magnets, on the bottom of a tin can, like a soup can. Try to get one that’s BPA free, put water in the can, stir the water, on the outside is where the magnets go, and let it sit for an hour or two. Then, take an eye dropper and take the water out of the center at the top. That would be the water that has gotten as far away as possible from the magnetic field. JUSTIN: At the very top? BARRY CARTER: Yes, because the whole can is magnetized by the magnets on the outside and on the bottom. It’s a very simple thing and real easy to do. If you wanted to make an ormus oil for topical application, get some celtic sea salt, some natural good celtic sea salt. It’s grown in Brittany, off the coast of France and it’s kind of a damp grey salt. I hear that dead sea salt works too, but get some sea salt and fill a container about 1/3 full of salt and the rest with and edible oil. I like grape seed oil because it absorbs well into the skin. Put the oil on top and it will go down into the salt. Shake it up good and let it sit for a 2-3 days. The ormus will move from the salt into the oil. The oil will then particularly be ormus rich and you can take this ormus rich oil and apply it topically, or you can put it on your salad, or whatever you want to do. JUSTIN: Wow, so if someone wanted to get some ormus, let’s say they didn’t want to make it themselves, but just wanted to buy some for their garden, would they go to your ormus sources page and find a place that sold it in a powder form and then use it on their garden? BARRY CARTER: A powder form doesn’t go as well into the plants or the soil. Once it’s been dried, it isn’t as good, so you would want a wet product. JUSTIN: Okay, so you could just go to your ormus sources page and find it. BARRY CARTER: Ormus plant product providers is listed there. JUSTIN: Oh, there we go, okay. Ormus plant produce providers. Now, when you talked about your walnuts and your other plants, it’s interesting that when you’re using ormus and minerals in your garden, you don’t typically need to use, not fertilizer, but things to kill the pests, because the plant is so healthy. It’s sort of like the human body, when you’re healthy you don’t need antibiotics and things like that. The plants sort of work the same way, right? BARRY CARTER: Yes, that seems to be the case. JUSTIN: Interesting, so you don’t need to waste any money on those chemicals that are sprayed on to kill pests. I’ve heard of people using ormus on fruit trees in Michigan, orange trees in Michigan, where things like that are not supposed to grow, but these trees are so healthy from the ormus. It’s amazing. BARRY CARTER: Exactly, yes. It increases drought problems and freeze problems. JUSTIN: It’s almost as if this ormus is another kind of mineral that exists in a different plane or something. BARRY CARTER: Well, my friend Jim, who referred me to the first story I ever heard about was from Jim, and in the http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/mystory.htm. When I first heard about this, he suggested that it’s like ordinary metal has three legs right here in the physical. Ormus has two legs here and one leg somewhere else. JUSTIN: So that’s why it jumps around and can go through things, physical objects? BARRY CARTER: Right. It’s sort of a multi-dimensional substance. JUSTIN: Is it like an atom, a substance that only has one atom instead of many atoms connected to it? BARRY CARTER: We’re not sure if it’s monatomic or diatomic or something else. Ormus seems to however, hang out inside of some kind of a shielding molecule. In other words, it likes to be the clathrate guest. And the clathrate host could be the water molecule. Dr. Martin Chaplin in the U.K suggested that the water is a icosahedral or a dodecahedral structure ordinarly. Well, that would provide a good place for the ormus to hang out inside. Icosahedral is like a geodesic dome or a bucky ball, and the ormus would be hanging out inside of that bucky ball. That would provide it some shielding from magnetic fields and the ormus in turn could resonate and change it’s resonance. So, if you change the ormus resonance by getting it coherent, like spinning it in a magnetic field, or spinning it in general, so that it’s spin coherent, you might find that water responds to our thoughts, or to words that are pasted on the bottle of water, like Masaru Emoto talks about. Literally, the homeopathic remedies are imparting frequencies to the water, even though there may be statistically no more of the original substance that was put in with the homeopathic remedy before it was diluted, there may be something there that is causing it to change the resonance of the water, because it’s changing the resonance of the ormus in the water and the water is becoming more coherent and the coherent resonance makes the water molecules a bit smaller, so that they can go into your cells, carrying nutrients in a little bit better. JUSTIN: So, it almost like as if the water is able to carry more information, BARRY CARTER: Carry more information and carry more nutrients. And the wetter water would also carry toxins out of the body better. JUSTIN: That makes sense. Ormus is something that if people are looking, I know we’ve only got a couple of minutes left, but if they are thinking to themselves, how do I start using this stuff? One good way would be to purchase some of the products that are on the sources list on subtleenergies.com to use on your garden and start growing some food with it. Another way would be to purchase some ormus products that you could start ingesting and start noticing the differences and seeing the results. BARRY CARTER: Another good way is to make it yourself. If you decide to do any of these things, it’s going to be really, really helpful to everybody if you share your information and your experiences with ormus on some of the ormus fronds. You replace the word sources in a TW folder with forums.htm and you will find a list of ormus fronds around the world, some local, but many of them are global. Some of the largest forums have like 4,000 people on them, and on that forums page you can find all sorts of good information about forums that are close to you and forums you may want to join. There is one forum specifically for plants, ormus and plants. There is another one for health, another one for spiritual and another one for science. So, find a forum that resonates with you and join the forum and share your experiences. This is the only way we’re going to get this information out and about. JUSTIN: Yes, that’s true. There are a lot of links on this page. So, in wrapping up Barry. what other things are you working on? I know you’re experimenting with ormus, probably every day, but what direction are you headed in? BARRY CARTER: I want to set up an ormus research facility, probably here in Baker City, to explore the benefits for plants, animals and people, and to figure out ways to identify how much ormus is in a given water source, how much is in a given bit of soil, a given bit of rocks or in the air around you. And to provide scientific evidence that these elements do in fact exist, because I think it’s really, really important now, with….everybody has a favorite disaster anymore. It’s really important, with all these favored disasters that people have and one of the things that is common with all of them is food. Food is going to be limited, and if we can double plant growth and production in two years, that can solve it. JUSTIN: Yes, so you’re looking to possibly set up a research center in Oregon so that you can accomplish all of this? BARRY CARTER: Exactly. JUSTIN: Wow, that would be amazing. We need more people out there looking into these things, because. as you know, we only know probably less than 1% about the way the human body works, what water is and what ormus is. I think this kind of research would be amazing. BARRY CARTER: You can change the word sources.htm to favorite.htm and you can find a lot more links there to some of my more recent articles and so on. I don’t even mention the word ormus in the favorite page. JUSTIN: Interesting, you have lots of information here. Everybody, visit subtleenergies.com and Barry, do you mind staying on after I close out the show? BARRY CARTER: Absolutely, no problem. JUSTIN: Excellent, thank you. Alright, thank you so much everybody for joining us today on extremehealthradio.com and you can find this show, and the show notes at extremehealthradio.com/15 and don’t forget to visit Barry’s website, subtleenergies.com If you found any value in this show, could you do me a huge favor and click the like button on Facebook for the show, like us on Facebook, follow us on Twitter and send the link out to your friends. I am really, really on you guys to help spread the word of this kind of information and things like that. Don’t forget to visit our store, as we have lots of really great products, like the Vitamix, rebounders, e-products and all kinds of great stuff in our store. 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May 29, 2025 • 1h 9min

G Edward Griffin – How Vitamin B-17 Can Help Tremendously With Cancer

ANNOUNCEMENT: SUPPLEMENTS TO HELP REPAIR MITOCHONDRIA TO REDUCE OXIDATION & MAKE ATP Dissolve-It-All – breaking down scar tissue, inflammation and calcification PUFA Protect – Eliminating a lifetime of a high PUFA diet Purely K – Reduce Calcification NAD Power – Allow Your Mitochondria To Create Energy! Probiotic Endotoxin Reducer – Lower Endotoxins! Oyster Extract – Bioavailable Copper, Selenium & Zinc Resilien-C – Whole Food Vitamin C Panacea – Pure Shilijit 84 Minerals + Chelate Iron Digest-it-All – Better assimilate & absorb your food Use discount code EHR15 🙂 [include file=get-in-itunes.html] Getting G Edward Griffin on the show was really a lot of fun for Kate and I. Personally I have been aware of his work for over a decade and have loved what he’s doing. He is the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve as well as World Without Cancer: The Story of Vitamin B17. Perhaps in the future we can talk with him about freedom, states rights, the constitution and how the Federal Reserve was created back in 1913 one hundred years ago. But for this show we focused on cancer and why vitamin b-17 (also known as laetrile or amygdalin) has been used by people all over the world to treat their cancers. About 4 months ago Kate and I started buying some apricot kernels and eating a handful of them per day along with some vitamin b-17 pills. We take 100mg once per day as maitinence. I’m not saying you should take them for any particular reason or to prevent or cure yourself from any disease. I’m just saying what we do. The mechanism of how laetrile works is quite fascinating and Mr. G Edward Griffin explains all that in this show. At the beginning of the show we touched a little bit on the politics of cancer, how the AMA (American Medical Association started) along with the FDA. You can’t seem to go anywhere without seeing the name Rockafeller or Rothchild somewhere in the start of these institutions. Be that as it may, we talked about how laetrile works on cancer cells and how it causes apoptosis which is programmed cell death. We also discussed how much laetrile to consume each day, where to get large amounts of vitmain B-17 and much more. G Edward Griffin is a titan in this field and has done a lot of work bringing to light the knowledge of how vitamin b-17 works. We really hope you enjoy this interview with Mr. Griffin and please share it on Facebook if you enjoyed it. That will really help our efforts! After you listen, comment below and tell us what you think! We discuss the following and so much more: How the AMA started How the FDA started The politics of cancer Why doctors don’t know about alternative treatments for cancer How much laetrile to take each day Where to find laetrile And so much more! If you have cancer you might want to look into vitamin b-17, aka laetrile or amygdalin. G Edward Griffin explains… – Click to tweet this! – Get Notified: [ois skin=”Show Page2″] – Commercials: – Please Subscribe: Subscribe To Our Radio Show For Updates! – Other Shows: [include file=show-links.html] | All Shows With This Guest – Show Date: Thursday 8/8/2012 – Show Guest: G Edward Griffin – Guest Info: G. Edward Griffin (born November 7, 1931) is an American film producer, author, and political lecturer.[1] He is perhaps best known as the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island (1994), a critique of much modern economic theory and practice, specifically the Federal Reserve System. Starting as a child actor, he became a radio station manager before age 20. Read More… He then began a career of producing documentaries and books on often-debated topics like cancer, Noah’s ark, and the Federal Reserve System, as well as on libertarian views of the Supreme Court of the United States, terrorism, subversion, and foreign policy. Since the 1970s, Griffin has promoted laetrile as a cancer treatment,[2] a view considered quackery by the medical community.[3][4] He has also promoted the Durupınar site as hosting the original Noah’s ark, against skeptics as well as near-Ararat Creationists. He has opposed the Federal Reserve since the 1960s, saying it constitutes a banking cartel and an instrument of war and totalitarianism.[5] In 2002, Griffin founded the individualist network Freedom Force International. bio from Wikipedia – Topic: Cancer, Vitamin B-17, Laetrile aka Amygdalin – Guest Website(s): http://www.realityzone.com/ http://www.cancure.org/ Phone Number: (800) 595-6596 (Guest Social Links Below. Please Follow Them!) 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May 28, 2025 • 1h 14min

Dr. Patrick Vickers – Sugar Doesn’t Feed Cancer Cells & Why Doing Coffee Enemas Are Critical Living In Today’s Toxic World

[include file=get-in-itunes.html] Today we had an amazing discussion with Dr. Patrick Vickers. Dr. Vickers joined us today from the Gerson Treatment in Northern Baja and it was truly a please speaking with this man. He dispels a lot of health myths and platitudes surrounding the health food world. We talked about salt and why salt can be dangerous especially if you’re dealing with terminal or even advanced cancers. Many people think sodium is good for you but Patrick’s take is that it’s extremely detrimental. We obviously talked about salts that you’d buy in the health food store not necessarily things like celery and items like that. He did give some useful tips about how to work with celery. We also talked quite extensively about how cancer cells do not feed on sugar. Whenever we make statements using general words it’s CRITICAL to distinguish what we mean. By sugar he’s talking about fruit sugar not processed sugar or white sugar that’s been cooked and heavily bastardized. Fruit sugar and sugar from cooked starchy vegetables act very different in the human body than high fructose corn syrup injected with genetically modified organisms. The way sugar feeds cancer has more to do with tissue oxygenation and the ph balance of the blood and certain organs vs the sugar itself. It gets extremely scientific especially the way Dr. Patrick Vickers breaks it down so it’s definitely worth listening to. We also discussed how critical it is in today’s toxic world to do regular coffee enemas. Dr. Vickers does them twice per day. They are absolutely imperative if you want to detoxify the liver from heavy metals, fluke worms, parasites and other chemicals and poisons that get stored in our livers. Coffee enemas help to create bile as well as the main detoxification hormone called glutithione which are necessary for moving toxins out of the body. Along with regular vegetable juicing the coffee enemas are a part of the foundation of the Gerson Treatment. This show was truly fascinating and it was an honor to have Dr. Patrick Vickers on. If you found this interview with him interesting please pass this on to your friends using the buttons at the top of this post. Kate and I would be extremely grateful if you could share it and help as many people as possible. – Get Notified: [ois skin=”Show Page2″] – Commercials: – Please Subscribe: Subscribe To Our Radio Show For Updates! – Other Shows: [include file=show-links.html] | All Shows With This Guest – Show Date: Wednesday 11/27/2013 – Show Guest: Dr. Patrick Vickers – Guest Info: Dr. Patrick was born and raised outside of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. At the age of 11 years old, after witnessing a miraculous recovery from a chiropractic adjustment, Dr. Patrick’s passion for natural medicine was born. Giving up careers in professional Read More… golf and entertainment, Dr. Patrick obtained his undergraduate degrees from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and Life University before going on to receive his doctorate in Chiropractic from New York Chiropractic College in 1997. While a student at New York Chiropractic College(NYCC), Dr. Patrick befriended Charlotte Gerson, the last living daughter of Dr. Max Gerson, M.D. who Nobel Peace Prize Winner, Dr. Albert Schweitzer called, ” One of the most eminent geniuses in medical history. “ Dr. Gerson, murdered in 1959, remains the most censured doctor in the history of medicine as he was reversing virtually every degenerative disease known to man, including TERMINAL cancer. Upon graduating from NYCC in 1997, Dr. Patrick went on to study the Gerson Therapy directly under Charlotte Gerson at her home in San Diego, California. While living with Charlotte, Dr. Patrick spent several months going through Dr. Gerson’s handwritten files of all his active patients from 1910-1959; files that Charlotte has kept in her home to this day. Included in those files were hundreds of handwritten letters from Nobel Peace Prize Winner, Dr. Albert Schweitzer, to Dr. Max Gerson. Schweitzer and Gerson were best friends after Gerson cured Schweitzer’s wife, Helena, of terminal tuberculosis when she had just 3 months to live. Gerson also cured Schweitzer, himself, of severely advanced diabetes, in SIX weeks, eight years before Schweitzer won the Nobel Prize. After several months of studying Dr. Gerson’s files, and several more months interning at the Gerson Clinic, Dr. Patrick opened chiropractic and Gerson clinics in Peru, Guatemala and Mexico before returning to the United States, in 2008, to open up this non-profit organization dedicated to educating the public on the Gerson Therapy. Since that time, Dr. Patrick has been travelling around the world lecturing at international embassies, Latin American medical schools and other miscellaneous venues. He is also responsible for having cured one of the most famous and controversial Heads of State in human history. Natural cancer treatment Dr. Patrick and Lupita from The Beautiful Truth You can see Dr. Patrick’s terminal cancer patient, Lupita, in the critically-acclaimed, 2008 documentary, “The Beautiful Truth.” Recently, Dr. Patrick has expounded on Dr. Gerson’s work by creating the Advanced Gerson Therapy. The Advanced Gerson Therapy has proven to be more superior in the results it obtains than the original Gerson Therapy of Dr. Gerson’s time. Currently, Dr. Patrick resides in Tijuana, Mexico with his 12 year old son, Shelem. He continues to travel around the country lecturing on the incredible life and legacy of Dr. Max Gerson which, fifty years after Dr. Gerson’s death, remains one of the greatest stories and tragedies in human history. If you, or someone you know or love, are suffering from any kind of degenerative condition, including terminal cancer, you may call or write us to set up a consultation with Dr. Patrick or to reserve a stay at our clinic in Tijuana, Mexico. We look forward to hearing from you. – Topic: Cancer, colonics, enemas, detoxificaiton, salt, sugar – Guest Website(s): http://www.gersontreatment.com (Guest Social Links Below. Please Follow Them!) 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Listen: http://t.co/ibvQ6Twk5q — Extreme Health Radio (@ehrshow) November 29, 2013 – Watch a very helpful video [video_lightbox_youtube video_id=kNTs_YgKivw width=640 height=480 anchor=tutorial] for this page. – Subscribe to iTunes or Leave a Review Subscribe to iTunes podcast Click Here to Subscribe via RSS (non-iTunes feed) Leave a review Thank you so much for your support, and if you have yet to leave a rating or review, please leave me an honest one on iTunes by clicking here. It will help the show and its ranking in iTunes immensely! I appreciate it! – Podcast Transcript: Broadcasting live, four days a week worldwide, from the sunny beaches of Southern California, this is ExtremeHealthRadio.com. Ty: Hey, you’re listening to Ty Bollinger of CancerTruth.net and you’re also listening to Justin and Kate with Extreme Health Radio. These guys are great. Enjoy listening to them. I always do. Justin: Well, thank you so much, everybody, for joining us on another episode of Extreme Health Radio. We had a couple sound issues just right there. Hopefully you didn’t hear too much of that, but we had sound only coming out of one side of the speakers there. Never a good thing. Kate: No. Justin: Thank you, everybody, for joining us. We are so excited to have Dr. Patrick Vickers on the show today. We’ll be talking about the Gerson Therapy. We’ve got some questions on coffee enemas. And it’s just going to be a great show, so we’re really, really excited to have him on. We’ll introduce him in just a moment. It’s a beautiful day here in Southern California—a couple clouds—we’ll take it though, right, for this time of year? Kate: Makes it feel a little Thanksgiving-ish, finally. Justin: Yeah, Thanksgiving-ish. I like that. Yeah, it does. Thanksgiving is tomorrow so it’s going to be a great time with everybody and hopefully you’re having a good day. Hopefully you’re off work maybe today, enjoying the day. So I want to thank you for joining us and we broadcast four days a week on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday—every day except for Tuesday and that will change soon. If you’d like to follow us on Facebook, you can do so at ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Facebook. Click the “like” button and keep up to date with all of our shows and everything we have going on. For reference, today is Wednesday… Kate: November 27, 2013, and this is Episode 185. Justin: 185, so if you want to go to ExtremeHealthRadio.com/185, you’ll be able to check out the show notes and any websites or reference materials that Dr. Vickers mentions—anything like that. And also, you can make your comments on that show page too if you have any questions or comments regarding the interview that you listen to. There are a lot of different ways to join the show. 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Justin: Yes, and you can go to ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Amazon and you can make your purchases. It doesn’t have to be health-related. You can buy anything. You can buy unhealthy things if you like. That would still support it, so we appreciate that and all of you who have been doing that—we really appreciate that. Today we have Dr. Patrick Vickers and this is going to be a great show because he’s with the Gerson Treatment Center in northern Baja and he’s the head of that and he got his Doctorate of Chiropractic Medicine in 1997 in New York and has been intently following the Gerson Treatment as a result of befriending Charlotte Gerson back in college. So it’s really an honor to have him on. So thank you so much, Dr. Vickers, for being on the show today. Patrick: Yeah, thank you for having me. Justin: You’re so welcome. So you had said on your website you befriended Charlotte Gerson back when you were in college. Is that right? Patrick: Yeah. I wanted to be a chiropractor ever since I was 11 years old and I had a year left in school at New York Chiropractic College and Charlotte came and spoke at our school for the weekend and the moment she opened her mouth, I knew that’s what I would spend the rest of my life doing. Justin: Wow. Kate: Wow. Patrick: The last year of chiropractic school was very hard to get through because I couldn’t get my eyes out of the Gerson books. So once I graduated, I actually lived at the Gerson Clinic when they had one in Sedona. I lived there for five months, shadowing the two doctors at the time. And then in 1998, Charlotte asked me to come live at her home where she has all her father’s handwritten files stored in her garage and she asked me to come there and go through those files and try to find active patients that were still alive that Dr. Gerson himself treated. Justin: Oh my gosh. So during the time that you were in college, I mean you were going for chiropractic medicine. Were you open-minded to alternative healing modalities at that time already and that’s why you kind of resonated with Charlotte? Patrick: Well, I’ve always despised conventional medicine, ever since I was a young boy. When I was 11 years old, I saw an absolute miracle with one chiropractic adjustment and that’s what pretty much set my course, in terms of my belief systems of medicine and natural medicine. And so yeah, you could say that I was already privy towards natural medicine, though if you would have told me that the cure for cancer existed at that point, I probably would have told you you were crazy and certainly that if there was something available at that time that they’d be shouting it from the rooftops. So when Charlotte opened her mouth and started talking about her father, there was something instinctively in me that knew immediately that what she was saying was true. And like Ashley, let’s say, that turned my work upside down and like I said, I knew that’s what I would do the rest of my life. And so since I graduated, that’s essentially what I dedicated my life to.  Justin: Wow. That’s amazing. So are there any Gerson Treatment Centers in the United States? Because you mentioned on, I think you said, in Arizona? Patrick: Well, there was one. The Institute had one in Arizona back in 1998 but that has since shut down. Now with that said, a good friend of mine named Ryan Korchoff [sp], he has a clinic in Sedona, Arizona, but his hands are tied as to what he can legally do. So I wouldn’t call it an official Gerson Clinic per se, but he’s carrying out many of the Gerson principles there and one thing he certainly isn’t able to do are the advanced protocols that we’ve added to the Gerson Therapy, which are increasing our clinical outcome exponentially. Justin: Wow. So his hands are tied to some degree, not only with what he can do, but what he can say as well, right? Patrick: Yeah, absolutely. So it’s disguised as a wellness center, but he is applying the principles of the Gerson Therapy, but really not in their entirety and like I said, not the advanced protocols, which are becoming more and more vital as the environment becomes more and more toxic. Justin: Just really briefly, what are a couple of the advanced protocols that he wouldn’t be able to do? Can you say? Patrick: Yeah, absolutely. First of all, if you read in Dr. Gerson’s book on Page 128, he mentions William Colley and he was specifically talking about the Colley Therapy. He wanted to do the Colley Therapy when he was alive but he never got the chance because he died. Well, the Colley Therapy… Dr. William Colley was a Harvard Medical Doctor and he recognized that when his patients came down with staph or strep infections, their cancers would go away or get significantly better, but then when the infection was over, they would come back. So what he did was he began to culture the bacterial toxins that staph and strep bacteria make and he began to inject those regularly into his patients and he would get the same response. The tumors would eventually go away and he was able to receive a permanent cure from time to time, but not remotely as close as what we can get on the Gerson Therapy. So Gerson theorized that if you could do the Colley Therapy while on the Gerson Therapy—because that’s what Colley overlooked. He overlooked boosting up the immune system under the principles of something like the Gerson Therapy. So essentially, all Colley was doing was artificially stimulating the immune response, which if you don’t replenish it with the proper nutrients and juices and enemas, you’re actually going to deplete the immune system over time and that’s why he wasn’t able to achieve permanent cures like we can with the Gerson Therapy and Colley’s together. So Gerson theorized that if he could do Colley’s while on the Gerson Therapy, he could send his results through the roof and he was right. And unfortunately, he never got that opportunity because by the time he discovered it, it was too late and he never had the opportunity to try it. So we’re doing that. We’re also doing Laetrile, Vitamin B-17, but we’re only doing it intravenously because contrary to what you may hear, you can apricot kernel seeds until the cows come home; you’re not going to get enough Laetrile out of those apricot seeds to make a difference. And not only that, an advanced terminal patient, if they’re eating apricot kernel seeds all day, that’s an incredible stress on their immune system and their digestive tract, so really the only therapeutic form of Laetrile that’s viable for a cancer patient and successful is intravenous. And so we’re doing that intravenously, which if I’m not mistaken it’s illegal in the United States still. So that’s the other thing we’re doing. One other therapy is dendritic cell therapy. Dendritic cells are like generals in your body. They go around the body seeking out threats to the system and they do that because they’re able to detect and pick up antigens that are produced by cancer cells, viruses, bacteria and they take those antigens and they present it to the immune system and then it’s the immune system that rallies the defense. So those are our three major therapies that we’re doing here at the Gerson Clinic and we’re also going to begin doing something called PNC27. PNC27 is a new protein that’s been discovered. You can Google it. It’s a new therapy that’s been discovered that’s now starting to show incredible promise, specifically in pancreatic cancer, but not limited to that. And what it’s doing is it’s breaking down the cell membranes of cancer cells, literally eating them away and the immune system can then recognize the cancer cell and immediately destroy it. So we’re going to begin utilizing that as well. So Colley’s, Laetrile and PNC27 right now, those are the advanced protocols that are really powerful with the Gerson Therapy. Kate: Dr. Vickers, Stella from New York just was in our chat room and she said, “What about intravenous Vitamin C?” Patrick: Yeah, we also apply intravenous Vitamin C and chelation at our clinic as well. Kate: Okay. Patrick: So yeah, those are both therapies that you get as part of the package when you come down here. Justin: You know what, Dr. Vickers, is really amazing about Max Gerson is that he was always willing to seemingly change up his protocols and really be like a scientist in terms of he’s always looking to enhance his existing protocols and things and that’s what’s so cool about what you guys are doing is that somehow he’s passed on that ideology that you’re not stuck to one particular thing. You’re always adding on these adjuncts that kind of sit on the outside and add to the foundational protocols that you guys use. Patrick: Well, that’s exactly right. Gerson was the consummate scientist and he was constantly searching the literature, looking for things that could help and propel his therapy to a greater level. Up until 1952, Gerson’s entire juicing protocol was just citrus—was just grapefruit, oranges and lemons—and then in 1952 things started to come out in the literature about beta-carotene and all these vegetables and stuff and he completely revamped his juicing protocol. And so today if Gerson was alive, I think the foundations of the diet would still look very similar, but I guarantee you he would have been using these immunotherapies that we’re now utilizing at our clinic. And not to talk ill willed about Charlotte Gerson, but to this day, Charlotte has refused to change her father’s therapy in the very exact way that he wanted to, specifically Colley’s. She’s kept the therapy as-is, from the day her father died, and that’s one of the biggest reasons why we had to leave the Institute, because our hands would have been tied by the Institute had we signed up to be officially recognized by them. We would not be able to do the things we’re doing if we continued to be allied with the Gerson Institute. Justin: Interesting. Yeah, I was going to ask you about that because you’re with the Northern Baja Center and that is different than the… Is that different than the main Gerson…? Patrick: Oh yes, absolutely. We’re two totally different entities. We’re not affiliated with the Gerson Institute for these very reasons. Justin: I see. Patrick: And other reasons as well that I don’t need to go into, but no. We are separate from the Institute and my doctors have been practicing the Gerson Therapy for 15-20 years and they’ve been doing the advanced protocols since their inception. Justin: Interesting. Now going back really quickly, I just have one little quick question about what you said about Vitamin B-17 in people that actually have cancer. A lot of people take those little tablets or they’ll just eat the kernels as a preventative when they’re not sick. Is that something that’s beneficial, do you think? Patrick: I don’t know. The amount of B-17 that the body’s got to try to extract from a raw seed like that, I just don’t think it can be of much benefit. Now maybe the tablets or the capsules could be of some benefit, but keep in mind when we do Laetrile, our patients are getting nine grams of pure B-17 in each IV. So I think the capsules, if I’m not mistaken, come in 500-milligram tablets, so you would probably have to take 50 capsules to get the same bioavailable amount of B-17 that we inject intravenously. It’s just not cost-effective, I don’t believe. But now again, maybe the capsules for preventative measures could be of some benefit, but for a cancer patient, it’s not going to be of great benefit. Justin: That makes a lot of sense because also with what you guys are doing, it’s coming in liquid form and it’s right into the bloodstream, so it’s really highly bioavailable, right? Patrick: It’s pure B-17, straight into the bloodstream. Justin: How do they get…? That’s just so crazy. How do they get B-17…? Where do they get it from in such high amounts like that? Patrick: Well, probably the same way you extract flax oil out of flaxseeds, probably some kind of a cold press mechanism or a crushing mechanism that’s able to just squeeze the oil or the pure B-17 out of the product. I mean that’s the only thing I can imagine. Justin: I know you get this question a lot and we only have a couple minutes before the break here that we have to take, but one of the objections a lot of people say is the amount of sugar. And I know I’ve heard you talk about this a lot, but just for those people who have been listening and they’ve heard about the Gerson Treatment and they’re concerned about the sugar, can you just talk for a couple minutes on that subject? Patrick: Well, it would take more than a couple minutes, but we can start. Anyway, yeah, why is it that we’re the only ones in medical history to have a peer-reviewed study proving the ability to reverse advanced terminal cancer? Nobody’s reversing advanced terminal cancer with the rates that the Gerson Therapy is. But how can that be when the patients are getting 6,000 calories a day of fruit and vegetable sugars? The whole premise that sugar feeds cancer is a false premise and nothing could be further from the truth when and only when the cellular environment inside the cell is set up properly to break down sugar into ATP, ATP being the energy molecule that the body produces. You need ATP to eat, sleep, drink, walk, talk. You need it to maintain a healthy immune system. And you most certainly need it to cure a sick and dying one. When you see somebody who is sick and/or dying, what’s one of the first things you notice? They’re lethargic. Why are they lethargic? Because they’ve lost the capacity to produce energy on a cellular level and the only way you can—well, not the only way—but the primary way the body creates energy is through the breakdown of sugars. And it’s when the environment inside the cell is optimal for the breakdown of sugars that sugars actually help fight disease rather than cause it. And the whole principle—the whole secret to that—is proper oxygen utilization by the body, and we can go into that more after the break, I suppose. But it has nothing to do with the consumptions of sugar. It has everything to do with the proper cellular environment to break it down and create energy and that all happens in the mitochondria and the two things that are required to produce energy on a cellular level or sugars, oxygen and a myriad of nutrients that the mitochondria need to run its energy cycles. Justin: I love it because what you’re saying is so true and a lot of times, especially as you know in the alternative health fields, you get a lot of platitudes and you get a lot of general statements. So it’s nice to get some concrete information that’s based on cellular biology about this kind of subject. So this is really good. We’re with Dr. Patrick Vickers and don’t forget to check out his website. 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Don’t forget to join our thriving community for health tips, inspiration and show updates at ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Facebook. Justin: Well, I just got done jumping on the rebounder, kind of wake up a little bit, right? Kate: Just a little. Got to catch your breath. Justin: We’re having a great talk here with Dr. Patrick Vickers and this is really, really an informative talk and hopefully you guys are getting a lot of good information. I love the fact that he has such an open mind and is such a great guy in terms of incorporating all these different modalities into his treatment and his foundational protocols. We could go on for hours just on the sugar thing, and perhaps we can get back to that a little bit too. I want to ask a couple questions because we’ve had a lot of people asking about the coffee enemas and things like that. So the coffee enemas, Dr. Vickers, are part of the foundation—that and the juicing—of your entire protocol, isn’t it? Patrick: Coffee enemas… We would not be able to cure cancer without the coffee enemas. In fact, Gerson’s success rates were not that good. In fact, he lost his first several patients when he started treating cancer or started treating advanced disease because he was detoxifying them so heavily with the juicing and the supplement protocol that they were going into chemotoxic shock. So the coffee enema is an absolute vital portion of the Gerson Therapy. Without it we would not have the success that we have. Justin: And how are they different from colonics? They’re very different from colonics, but tell people how they are different. Patrick: Well, for starters, the coffee enema is only a quart, whereas a colonic, four to five gallons of water is being circulated through you. And typically, they might add some herbal things to it or might add vitamin C or garlic, but the colonic… essentially that’s just to clean out your colon. That’s what the principle of the colonic is. The coffee enema is a completely different therapy. The coffee enema is specifically to detoxify the liver and a colonic simply can’t do that. A colonic just cleans the colon. A coffee enema detoxifies the liver and there’s absolutely nothing in the literature that can compare to the detoxification power of a coffee enema. Justin: That’s so fascinating. And you have been doing them every day for quite a few years, haven’t you? Patrick: Yeah, I’ve been doing one or two every day for the last… well, essentially 15 years, since I started the Therapy. Charlotte Gerson herself, she does one or two a day for the last 65 years. So you hear that these things are addictive, that if you do them for too long they become harmful. Well, I think we’re living proof at this point that that simply isn’t the case, especially when it’s done—and it has to be done—in conjunction with this regime. If you do coffee enemas without doing it inside of this regime, potentially you could cause some harm to the body. Justin: I see. I see. Because you need the juicing to go along with it and along with everything else that you guys do. And a lot of people say that you lose electrolytes if you do them every day. That’s not… Is that true? Patrick: Well, that would be the danger if you weren’t doing it in this regime. Justin: I see. Okay. Patrick: Yeah. See, the secret to the coffee enema is this. Your liver produces an enzyme called glutathione S-transferase. It’s the most potent detoxifying enzyme in the body. It literally goes through the body soaking up free radicals, toxins and eliminating them through the kidneys and the intestines. Well, the liver produces that enzyme and it uses palmitic acid as the chemical base of creating that enzyme. Well, properly roasted, organic coffee is loaded with palmitic acid and study after study on coffee enemas has shown—and yes, they have been studied extensively—that the production of glutathione transferase by the body goes up 700% greater than normal with just one enema. So you multiply that by five, which is what the Gerson patients get on a daily basis—they get five enemas per day—you have very, very powerful detoxification of the body. Now the problem with doing the coffee enemas outside this regime is when you stimulate that pathway—that glutathione S-transferase pathway—that pathway requires all your B vitamins, magnesium, potassium, iron, zinc, vitamin C. All those nutrients are required to run that pathway. So if you’re sick, which means your body’s already severely depleted, and you start doing the coffee enemas, you’re going to get a response. But over time, you’re depleting your body more if you’re not replenishing those nutrients with the juices and the foods, which come with the Gerson Therapy, which is 20 pounds per day. Justin: Interesting. So as with the colonics, a lot of people say that you can lose good, beneficial gut bacteria with the colonics or become dehydrated from colonics. Does this happen with enemas? Patrick: No, because a lot of the beneficial bacteria—or most of them—are in the ascending and one half of the transverse colon. Justin: Okay. Patrick: Essentially, the descending colon is nothing but eliminative. It really doesn’t have the bacterial content that the rest of the colon has. Not only that. When you do an enema, it really doesn’t go beyond the transverse flexure, beyond the sigmoid colon, the descending portion of the colon. It probably occupies the last half of the descending colon, whereas a colonic, that goes through the entire colon, all the way to the ileocecal valve. And there is a lot of beneficial bacteria, especially in the ascending colon. So people who say that you can throw off the probiotic organisms, the natural bacteria in your colon with coffee enemas, they really don’t understand what they’re talking about. Justin: I see. I see. Kate: We have a question in the chat room asking about the difference with raw coffee beans or roasted, and is there one, and are people supposed to be using raw coffee? Patrick: Okay. That’s the proverbial question. I haven’t listened to Charlotte, but apparently she’s put something out on how she doesn’t like the green coffee beans. I know one of the Gerson Clinics, they use green coffee and apparently they’ve been using it successfully. I can’t say. I don’t know for sure. But Charlotte, from what I’ve heard, talks vehemently against green coffee. I can imagine she has good reason because there are products out there called “green coffee extract” and we know that green coffee extract prohibits the methylation pathway of the liver. It inhibits it. So like I said, I haven’t heard her speak about it, but I imagine that it has something to revolve around that. Now how much a green coffee enema would affect the methylation pathways, I don’t know. We’re talking about green coffee extract, a highly concentrated form of the green coffee bean. Justin: I see. Patrick: So I really couldn’t say whether or not they’re not beneficial. We’ve been using light to medium roast coffee for decades successfully. Here at my clinic, I have coffee roasted especially for my clinic and I roast it in between the green coffee and in between the light to medium roast that another company uses or makes for us in the United States for the Gerson Therapy. So the coffee we use here at the clinic is the middle of the road, so to speak, between the two coffees. Justin: Is there a link, do you think, on your website GersonTreatment.com, for people if they are interested in getting the highest quality coffee for their enemas? Patrick: I don’t have links up on our site for the coffee, but I can tell you right now here that the green coffee you get from SA Wilsons in Canada, SAWilsons.com and then the light to medium roasted coffee. A company specifically roasts it for us in Oregon and they use a basic bean, basic meaning not as acidic. So the bean that they use is a very high basic bean and they roast it specifically for us and that’s Royal Blue Organics in Oregon and their phone number is 1-888-CAFÉ-MAM. Justin: Okay. Okay, this is good. Kate: Wow, that’s great information. Patrick: When you call them, you have to ask for the Gerson Therapy Roast and ask for it in the bean form. You want it in the bean form because you want to grind it as you use it, because once you grind it, you expose all the acids to the elements and the coffee is going to break down much faster. Justin: Ah, okay. Kate: Gotcha. Justin: So you want it in bean form and it’s important to not use a coffee maker. Isn’t that correct? Patrick: That is correct. You do not use a coffee maker to make coffee enemas. You have to boil the coffee and you have to strain it out with a cheesecloth. That’s how you release the palmitates. Using a coffee maker, the filter will prevent the palmitates from making it into the coffee. Justin: Interesting. Now some people do water enemas. I know that for curing cancer, I mean coffee is huge because of the palmitic acid, like you talked about, and the caffeine and things. Patrick: That’s right. Justin: But people, like on a maintenance level, will do water enemas. Kate, you do water enemas as well as coffee. Kate: Mm-hmm. Justin: Are those beneficial, do you think, or as beneficial? Patrick: No. Not even close. No. Again, the water enemas aren’t going to do anything other than clean the colon. Justin: Okay. Patrick: That’s really the only thing they’re going to do. So the only thing really that is going to detoxify the body as a diseased patient needs is the coffee enema. There simply is nothing that can promote that kind of detoxification. Nothing. Justin: I love it. Okay, that’s good. And so what about positions? A lot of people lay on their right side when they do coffee enemas, for the liver, I guess. Kate: That’s a good question. Justin: Some people, I’ve heard, they… I like to lay on my right side. I’ve heard of people laying on their left side, even, and I’ve read in different books and things where people will kind of be on all fours with their butt up in the air. Is there any difference in terms of position? Patrick: Well, yeah. Okay, I just had visions of all that, but anyway… Justin: Sorry about that. Patrick: Gerson officially stated that he wanted it done on the right side because that’s where the liver is. And so if there was any chance of there being better absorption through the colon or whatever into the liver, that’s how he wanted it. And also the hemorrhoidal veins. So people ask, “Well, how does the coffee get from the colon to the liver?” and the answer is simple. When the coffee goes into the rectum, what’s sitting right there? The hemorrhoidal veins. And the hemorrhoidal veins, they dump into something called the “portal system” and anything that dumps into the hemorrhoidal veins and into the portal system gets carried straight to the liver because the portal system ends right in the liver. So that’s how the coffee gets to the liver is through the hemorrhoidal veins. And for whatever reason, Gerson stated that it was on the right side that the best absorption was available, according to him. Justin: Now how long is it…? I’ve heard you’ve talked about it before how the blood—the entire amount of the blood—gets filtered through the liver, I think, twice every 15 minutes or something? I may be wrong on that, but how long should people be holding in total? Because we do our enemas… What are they, about 24 ounces? Kate: Mm-hmm. Justin: And I usually do them in three different segments. How long should people try to hold the enemas? Patrick: The official answer to that is once everything is drained into you, Gerson wanted it to be held for 12 to 15 minutes and then eliminated. Justin: Okay, so it doesn’t matter if you do it in three different rounds, I guess? Patrick: No, that sounds quite lengthy. Justin: Yeah. Kate: Oh, you mean like five minutes each, if you’re trying to hold all that liquid? Justin: Well, yeah, because what I’ll do is I’ll do an enema and I’ll have 24 ounces of liquid and I’ll try to hold each round for 15 minutes. Kate: Oh. Justin: But maybe that’s too long. Patrick: Yeah, you’d be better off just holding it for 15 and holding it all in there because Gerson wanted it all in there for 15 minutes to increase the maximum absorption of the palmitates that he could get. Justin: I see. Okay. So how much liquid would someone be able to hold, do you think, for that long? Patrick: Well, the coffee enema under our regime is a 32-ounce regime. Justin: Oh my gosh. Wow. Kate: Wow. Does that take a long time for people to build up to that? Patrick: No. Not at all. Usually within a day or two of doing the enema protocols, there is no problem with that whatsoever. Kate: Wow. That’s great. Patrick: Then it takes three minutes to get it all in—not that long. Kate: Is it important in your protocol how slow the liquid actually goes in? Patrick: No. Justin: And with the coffee enemas, is it okay to massage the stomach while you’re eliminating on the toilet or massage your stomach while you’re laying there? Is that something that’s beneficial, do you think? Patrick: Well, I find that if my nutrient status is up that my colon eliminates it very easily, but if I’m depleted or I’m stressed and I’m having a problem eliminating it, sometimes I will massage my belly to get it moving better. So yeah, it could be beneficial for people who are finding problems eliminating the enema. Justin: Okay. We’ve got a couple more questions on this and then we’ll take a break and end the show with some… Maybe we’ll go back to the sugar issues because that was really interesting. A couple other questions before we take a break on the coffee enema. Is there a beneficial time to do it? We’ve had other guests on our show that say the liver time is 1:00-3:30 am, but no one’s going to do it at that time. Are there different times during the day that it is more beneficial for a coffee enema? Patrick: We recommend that if you’re going to do them for maintenance that you do it first thing in the morning when you wake up to help the liver eliminate any toxins that it’s held overnight from that time period that you mentioned. So as soon as I wake up, it’s the first thing I do every day. Kate: So if you do two sometimes, like you said, a day, when are you doing your other one? Patrick: Late afternoon because I’m doing a lot of juicing and when you juice, you actually create toxicity in the body. I don’t know if you’re aware of that. Kate: Hm-mm. Patrick: Juices have the capacity to literally draw toxins out of the cells, back into the bloodstream. Not only that, the enzymes in the juice and the nutrients in the juice are destroying disease tissue, rebuilding new tissue, destroying cancer cells, tumors. All of those are toxic processes. So if you’re doing any kind of juicing, you’ve got to do enemas to counterbalance that. So if I’m doing six, seven, eight juices a day, by the time 2:00 or 3:00 rolls around, I’m ready for an enema. Kate: Can I ask you how many juices you do as maintenance a day? Patrick: Well, because I live right next door to the clinic, you wouldn’t see the difference between me and one of my cancer patients. On a regular basis I might be doing five or six a day. Kate: Wow. Justin: That’s incredible. Kate: That’s amazing. Justin: And you guys use that fancy Norwalk juicer, don’t you? Patrick: Well, up until last week we weren’t. We were using a Champion with a separate press. It gets the same results as the Norwalk. It’s just a little more physical. It’s a little more laborious. But we do now have a Norwalk that we’re utilizing for the juices. Justin: And with coffee enemas, Kate… This might be a little bit gross for some people, but Kate, you’ve had worms come out, right? Kate: Yeah, I’ve had all kinds of stuff. Patrick: Oh yeah, for sure. Kate: It’s pretty amazing. Is that pretty typical for an average person like me doing them as maintenance? Patrick: Oh, absolutely. Listen, we’re all so toxic. I mean we’re breathing in things that we can’t even see. And so by the end of the day the environments that we’re living in, especially if we’re city dwellers, the amount of toxicity we’re generating is horrific. So yeah, I mean the things that come out of people when they start doing the coffee enemas goes beyond mention here. Kate: So it is safe to say that you would recommend them for people as maintenance, as long as they know what they’re doing? Patrick: It’s absolutely vital. People accuse me of being… “Well, aren’t you being a little extreme, doing one or two a day?” And I’m like, “Well, look, if I lived back in 1900 and I was doing one and two coffee enemas a day, that would be ridiculous.” But with this environment that we live in today, it’s absolutely imperative that you do at least one enema a day. No ifs. No ands. No buts. Justin: I like that. Wow. Kate: I love it. Justin: Wow, fascinating. This is good stuff. We’re going to take a short break and we’ll be back with Dr. Patrick Vickers. Don’t forget to check out his website, GersonTreatment.com. This is just great stuff. Perhaps in the next segment we can get into some of the sugar issues. I know he’s got to be leaving right at 10:00 so we’re going to be making sure he gets out of here on time. But this is just a fascinating show with Dr. Patrick Vickers and we’ll be right back after this break. [ADVERTISEMENT] Justin: I have to say I have been absolutely loving this product by Tristan Truscott and Peter Ragnar called Good Morning Good Evening Qigong. If you want to listen to the interview we did with Tristan, you can go to www.ExtremeHealthRadio.com/127. And Qigong is a great way to distress the body and as you know, there is a huge component to disease caused by stress and stress is a huge factor in how we live our lives and the amount of energy we have and the amount of vitality we have. And so Dr. Shade, what do you think about Qigong? Shade: People come to me and they’re really thick and they’ve got this blown-out neurological system and all this toxicity and I tell them “You need to do Qigong Tai Chi. You need to do these things that settle down and restore your neurology because it puts together all the parts. It puts you back into that state where you can start to detoxify. And so I highly, highly recommend all that. Justin: And what about you, Kit Campbell? What do you think about Qigong? Do you like it as well? Kit: Qigong is amazing and the reason that I believe it to be amazing is everything here is energy. That is a scientific fact if there ever is one. So when you’re practicing Qigong, you’re actually drawing energy into your body. Your intention—whatever your intention is behind any action—will determine the level of energy… type of energy… that you absorb into your body. So your intention behind you is very important, just like thought. So when you’re practicing Qigong, you’re actually bringing energy in and you’re bringing out the stuff that might be a bit stale. With Tai Chi it’s totally different. The energy runs underneath the skin because it’s more of a—this is a Chinese understanding, by the way—it’s more of a martial art. So Qigong is very, very good for bringing that energy into the body and just fantastic. Justin: If you’re interested in picking up this Qigong course by Tristan Truscott and Peter Ragnar, go to www.ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Qigong and you can learn more about it. There is a great video on that page and you can learn more about it on that page and I highly, highly recommend this product. I love it myself, so go ahead and check that out at www.ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Qigong. [ADVERTISEMENT] All free shows, all the time, on Extreme Health Radio, opening minds and transforming lives worldwide. Join our community today. Sign up to our email list and instantly get our free gift to you, along with loads of inspirational content and cutting edge tips to help change your life at www.ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Subscribe. Justin: All right. Well, thank you, everybody, for joining us on this episode of Extreme Health Radio. We are at Episode 184… Kate: 5. Justin: Is it 185? Kate: Yep. Justin: Are you sure? Kate: I’m sure. Justin: Okay, 185. Cool. Okay, so if you have any questions about this show, you can go to ExtremeHealthRadio.com/185 and if you have any questions about the sauna that we ran the ad for or the qigong course, please let me know and I can answer any questions that you might have about this particular items there. I think you’re really going to love those. Don’t forget to check out GersonTreatment.com for more on Patrick Vickers and his whole entire center there in northern Baja, Mexico. Before we get into the final bit of this show, Dr. Vickers, one last thing on the coffee enemas. Is there a book or some information online or something like that that you could reference to teach people how to do the coffee enemas? Patrick: Actually, no I don’t. I simply don’t have anything available to explain the coffee enemas and how to apply them. Justin: Okay, no problem. People can do searches online and figure that out. Patrick: Yeah, they’re all over the place, I’m sure. But I mean I’ve seen some of them that are out there and they’re certainly not the same regimen as we apply them, so everybody’s got an opinion. Kate: That’s for sure. Justin: So going back a little bit to the cellular science of the sugar that people will talk about. They’ll say, like you said earlier in the show, how cancer feeds on sugar and things like that. It really does have a lot to do with the oxygen utilization of the cell, doesn’t it? Isn’t that what you were saying? Patrick: That is the entire principle of proper utilization of sugar. How does the body create energy on a cellular level? There is something called the “Krebs cycle.” The Krebs cycle is what takes place inside the cell in the mitochondria. So sugar is supposed to enter the cells and go through the Krebs cycle. But it will only do that—to its final production of energy on a cellular level—it will only do that if oxygen is present and available. If you can’t get oxygen into that cell, into that mitochondria, you’re not going to produce energy on a cellular level. So under what principles would it be true that sugar feeds cancer? Well, you hear it floated around all the time that acidity causes disease, right? You’ve heard that constantly. Justin: Right. Right. Patrick: That disease can’t survive in a highly oxygenated environment. Well, great. But what does that mean? What does that mean on a cellular level? Well, when we’re talking about acidity, what are we talking about? We’re talking about pH—the pH balance. Well, pH means potential Hydrogen. So acidity, by definition, is the build-up of Hydrogen ions in the body and the more build-up you have of Hydrogen ions in the cells, the less oxygen you can utilize because once a cell is positively charged with Hydrogen, as oxygen approaches that cell for entry, it will literally get repelled away. So that’s truly the reason why acidity is so deadly to the body, because if sugar enters the Krebs cycle without any oxygen available, it’s not going to get broken down to energy. It’s going to get broken down to lactic acid. That’s called “anaerobic”—without oxygen—“anaerobic glycolysis.” And the breakdown of sugar without oxygen forms lactic acid and lactic acid is food for cancer. It feeds on lactic acid. Justin: You know, it’s funny, when you you’re talking about that, the only thing that comes to mind is endurance athletes or bodybuilders or these people that are doing intense exercise and they’re building up all this lactic acid in their body and then what are they doing to energize themselves? They’re taking those Gatorade gel packs full of carbohydrate sugars, and that just is a recipe for cancer. Wouldn’t you think? Patrick: Well, if you’re not properly oxygenating your tissues it would be. But I mean I would never touch Gatorade just because there’s a bunch of garbage in it anyway. But the point being is that when you create the proper cellular environment, release the acidity by drinking 20 pounds of fruits and vegetables every day, that neutralizes the acidity, creates an alkaline environment. Oxygen can properly be utilized by the body. Then you bombard the body with all the nutrients available in the juices because the mitochondria also need those nutrients to run their cycles. They need oxygen, sugar, magnesium, potassium, iron, zinc—all of those things—to run the energy cycles. And finally, the primary principle of the Gerson Therapy is absolutely no sodium—added sodium—on the Gerson Diet, and bombarding the body with potassium. Why? Because sodium causes the build-up of edema or water in the cells and the mitochondria cannot function in that environment. So on the Gerson Therapy, you will get absolutely no added sodium, other than what naturally occurs in fruits and vegetables, and we bombard the body with potassium and what happens in all of our patients—and it would happen in you, in me—is that a load of sodium and water over a five to seven day period—and actually over months—but in large amounts over a five to seven day period… large amounts of sodium and water rush out of the cell and the cell’s integrity begins to restructure itself so that the mitochondria can function properly. So it’s those principles that make sugar absolutely vital in the cure of cancer and if you don’t eliminate those variables that I mentioned, sugar can feed cancer, but not the sugar—it’s the lactic acid that sugar is broken down into. Justin: Wow, that’s so interesting. And you guys… Do you do any celery? Because you said the sodium… But that would be naturally occurring too. Patrick: We do not concentrate celery juice on our therapy. Gerson eliminated celery from the diet, other than a little bit of celery in a special soup that we make, and the reason why is because celery is one of the highest concentrations of sodium you can get out of any vegetable. In fact, it is the highest concentration of sodium you can get out of any vegetable. And if you juice celery if you have cancer, you’re concentrating high amounts of sodium in a body that I guarantee is already overloaded with sodium and water in the cellular tissue. So you’ve got to eliminate sodium on the Gerson Therapy. Justin: And you also have a special Gerson potassium powder that you implement into your protocol, don’t you? Patrick: Gerson came up with a special potassium compound powder through 300 different experiments that he did. It took him 300 experiments to come up with the one that he concocted. It’s a powder that we dilute in a quart of water and then our patients get four teaspoons of that diluted potassium in ever juice. Justin: Oh wow. Kate: Wow. Justin: That is fascinating. Well, I know that you’re a busy man and you have to be out by 10:00 am sharp, so as kind of a last question here, what kinds of things are you guys working on? I know that you just got that new juicer and I know you travel all around the world giving lectures and things. What kinds of things are coming up for you? Patrick: In terms of just my logistical life or the therapy? Justin: Either one. Patrick: Yeah. Well, our clinic is like doubling every three months. It’s unbelievable the amount of exposure and popularity that our clinic is getting. So for now, I’m bound to the clinic. I believe in February, March and April, there will be a few venues. I think in April I’m going to be in Missouri. I think in March or February I’m going to be in Cleveland and I may be in Nashville in February or March as well. But as of right now, I’m staying put here. We just opened this clinic within the last year and before I can turn it over and have it run so that I can free up my life a little more, I’m staying put here for now. Kate: Wow. Justin: Wow. Well, amazing work and thank you for being on the show today. We really appreciate that so much, Doctor. Patrick: Yeah, thank you. We can do it again. We could talk for hours about the things that we’re doing here. Justin: I know. I have a thousand more questions but I know that you’ve got to go. Kate: Thank you. Justin: I appreciate it so much. Patrick: Yeah, my pleasure. Thank you very much and it was a pleasure meeting you and talking with you too. Kate: You too. Happy Thanksgiving. Patrick: Thank you. Kate: Bye-bye. Justin: All right. Well, there you have it. Kate: Well, there you have it. Justin: Dr. Patrick Vickers. What do you think about what he said? Kate: Oh, wow. For those of you who don’t know, he referenced Ashley at the beginning of this show and Ashley is one of our faithful listeners and she’s amazing and she had written me an email… I think maybe to you too, Justin? Justin: Uh-huh, yeah that’s right. Kate: Talking about how Dr. Vickers had actually worked it out to send her down to his clinic. She was very interested in all the healing modalities and things that he’s into and she’s pursuing that field of alternative health. And she just wrote me an email and said, “Oh, you’re going to love having him on. He’s a firecracker. He’s so passionate about what he does.” I am so glad that we were able to really see that come through. He must be that person all the time. You can tell. He lives, eats and breathes it and he’s an amazing man. Justin: Yeah, he’s a fascinating guy. He was saying about how doing the coffee enema once a day just for maintenance is critical. That’s crazy. Kate: Well, and Stella, we had her in the chat room and she says, “Oh gosh. It’s so true, with the big city, all those taxis.” I mean like he said, especially referencing a big city. You’re just getting bombarded. We feel like in our little town—our little village town here—we can’t step outside without breathing tar and fumes. But gosh, big cities, it’s just escalated to a whole different animal. Justin: Oh, I know, right? Kate: But it’s important on all levels, for all of us, and I think about me daily with all those toxins I have to breathe at the hair salon and hopefully not one of these days, but until then, I think it’s super imperative that I be doing these. Justin: At some point we thought about how we weren’t really sure if you should be doing them every day, but he said he’s been doing two a day for 15 years? Kate: 15 years. Justin: And Charlotte’s been doing two a day for 60 years? Kate: Yeah. He’s right. They are living proof that it won’t kill you. It can only help you. Justin: Yeah, because a lot of people talk about how you’ll lose electrolytes, you’ll inflame your colon, you’ll become dependent on them to go to the bathroom. But it just doesn’t appear to be true. Kate: It doesn’t appear to be true. I’m going to continue on my path because I feel… The proof is in the pudding. What you see come out of you is a little frightening. Like he was saying, everybody has worms and everybody has staph and… Blah! It’s just so good. I’ve talked to people and I get so excited talking about the coffee enemas, when they’re all “Gosh. I’d rather not know. I’d rather just not know what’s in there.” Justin: Do people say that to you? Kate: Oh, all the time. Justin: Really? Kate: “I would rather it just stay up there and not know.” And to me, I’m like, “How could you even say that? When you see what comes out of you, you’d rather have that hanging out in your digestive system or your liver?” Ugh. Justin: I know, right? I mean it’s almost a foregone conclusion that these things are in us and so it’s not a matter of not knowing because you know they’re there. Kate: Yeah. Once you know they’re there. Once they’re aware, it blows my mind that they still react to that that way. Justin: Right. Oh my gosh. Kate: Yeah. Justin: A couple other things I wanted to ask him too was a lot of people use wheatgrass and they’ll do oxygen. Kate: Oh, see? I know. Justin: You know? There are other substances that people will use. Some people will put a little bit of salt or baking soda or all kinds of different substances in the enemas. Kate: I’ve heard that throughout the years too. See, again, we need him back on. We barely got to scratch the surface. You think, “How long could a person talk about enemas?” but we could talk for two hours just on that without exhausting it. Justin: Oh yeah. It’s interesting how he explained how the coffee goes up through the hemorrhoidal veins to the liver—that’s how it gets there. Kate: I actually didn’t know that. Justin: Yeah, that’s interesting. And I want to know how come we can’t hold it? Certain times you can hold it… Kate: I can hold it for 15—the whole thing sometimes—and other times I can’t hold anything in for more than two minutes. Stella was saying that in the chat room too. She can’t hold it very long either. Justin: Yeah, I can’t figure out how people are able to hold 32 ounces at once. Is that what he’s saying? In one go? Kate: Yeah, he is. Uh-huh. And that people can take it within one or two days there. They’ll be used to that and be able to hold it. That blows my mind. But maybe at their treatment center, they’re… I don’t know. Maybe they’re doing everything else that enables their body to… Because I figure I think the ability for me to hold them for different amounts of times on different days really depends around what I’m eating and when I’m eating and when I’m doing the enemas. Justin: I wanted to ask him too… I should have asked him about… I had it on my list but you can’t get to every question. But I wanted to ask him about whether or not they’re okay to do after a big meal because he said… Kate: First thing in the morning. Justin: First thing in the morning. Obviously you’re doing it on an empty stomach first thing in the morning, but let’s say you have lunch. Let’s say you just eat a regular lunch, like a turkey sandwich or something. Yeah, and would it be beneficial to do right after or would it be more beneficial to wait three or four hours after that before your next meal? Kate: I would love to know his opinion because I’ve done some research on that online and there are always mixed opinions about everything. But I think it was a little bit overriding the people that said it was better to do after a big meal, like to do it within that hour. Justin: Oh really? Kate: I don’t know why. But people have said they’ve had better experiences and they tend to feel better and get more out of them. Justin: Interesting. Kate: I have no idea. I mean I think he knows a little bit more than most people online just randomly blogging and talking about their experiences. Justin: I thought it was interesting too how he talked about how as long as he’s mineralized, he can expel it all because you know how sometimes you’ll expel it but you feel like you haven’t got all of it out? Kate: Right, and then like 20 minutes later you’re like, “Oh, it’s still up there. I’ve got to go again.” Justin: Yeah. Right, but if he’s… Like he said, because he was so mineralized or he is so mineralized from the juicing he does, it helps him to expel it all. Kate: Yes. Justin: Because it’s interesting because they talk about the liver being involved with anger, you know? And I had on my list of questions to ask him too, but about I wonder if it would be beneficial to do maybe some forgiveness or… Kate: Emotional work? Justin: Emotional work while you’re doing the enema. Kate: I think that could only help, in my humble opinion. I mean I think it all is so much more interconnected than we know. So I truly believe that would only make your experience and your treatments and your healing even more powerful. I have to think. Justin: Yeah. Yeah, because they say the liver, in Chinese Medicine, correlates to the emotion of anger and so if you have that, then it would be… I would imagine, on an energetic level, to enhance the benefits of the enema, to do some emotional work while you’re doing the enema. Kate: I first heard that when I was getting my first colonic and she said… She was feeling around and she was in there—the therapist—like really rubbing around my organs while the water was flowing in and she was talking to me and she was pressing on my liver and she said, “You must be a really angry person.” She goes, “You’re the nicest angry person I’ve ever met.” I said, “What does that mean?” and that’s when she explained to me that we hold the anger in our liver and she said my liver just felt different and I had two acupuncturists tell me that before too. And I thought, “Gosh.” You start paying attention. When one person says it, you’re like, “Oh, whatever” and then when two people or three people start saying, “Your liver feels a little off. You might have anger issues…” And I had to look into that though and I realized, you know, I’ve had dreams where I’m just lashing out, yelling at people in my dreams because I don’t do that in real life. Justin: Because you probably hold it in. Kate: I hold it all in. So I think that’s what’s caused a lot of my liver issues, you know? That’s where I carry my stress and anger and I’ve really worked on that and I’ve come a long way. So yeah, I think maybe having that serenity and that emotional work while you’re holding the coffee enema could only benefit you. I find it really interesting. Justin: I wonder if he does colonics as well. I mean talked about how they’re different. Kate: There are so many questions. I know. Justin: But I would suspect… I mean if you read the book, Colon Health, by… What’s his name? Kate: Not Marshall, is it? Justin: No, it’s… He lived until he was like 117, the story goes. Kate: We have that. Justin: Yeah, we have a book. It’s called Colon Health. It’s written by a doctor and he swears by doing colonics. Let’s see. He does a series of six colonics twice a year for maintenance and that’s kind of what he was talking about in that book, Colon Health. Oh, Dr. Norman Walker. Kate: That’s right. I was looking for it. Justin: That’s who it was. Dr. Norman Walker. And he recommends doing colonics, like I said, as a round of two of them six times per year. So I imagine that would look like maybe in June you would go—during the month of June—to do two colonics one week, two colonics the next week, two colonics the third week, and then in January, you’d do the same thing. But I wonder… I know they’re different than enemas, but I imagine… I mean I’ve heard people say they’re bad and things and I’ve heard people say they’re the best thing ever, but… Kate: Yeah, I don’t know as far as the cycles of things because I’ve also heard that the cycles of coffee enemas are good and then to lay off of them. I mean I think it’s kind of anybody’s guess. Do your research and make your own opinion because I mean I don’t think doing a colonic every day would probably be… Justin: No. Kate: It is a little bit more aggressive. I mean it doesn’t feel aggressive, but I think you’re getting farther up in there and you do need probably a little bit more bacteria and you don’t want to wipe out your whole colony. But I don’t know. Justin: Yeah, so, so interesting. I want to start doing them more often, I think. Kate: I think you should. But you know how passionate I get about them. Justin: Are you going to still do the water ones? Kate: I think I will. I was chatting in the chat room a little bit with Stella about that as well. Justin: Like doing them in the evening or something? Kate: I think so. Still, even though he said they’re probably not worth much, I’ve still had some pretty strange experiences with things coming out, so I know that again, I’d still rather have it out of my body than being in my body. And to be honest, it just feels good, as long as I’m not dependent on them. It just feels really clean and just like really warm. It just feels like it cleanses me out. Justin: And you know what’s great about enemas is we didn’t even talk about this, but we’re talking about cancer and chronic degenerative diseases with people, but enemas are just incredible for your skin, for your hair, for your eyes, for your eyesight, for your nails—for all these external… Kate: Your weight. Justin: Your weight. Kate: Everything. Yeah, I’ve had little… I don’t know if they’re called liver spots… that start to get dark on your face. People get them all over, but ever since I’ve been doing the enemas and doing more juices, they have completely lightened. They’re not completely gone, but they have lightened a lot, like many, many shades. Justin: You could probably prevent liver spots and aging on your skin. Kate: I bet you could. Justin: I think also too, why don’t they have enemas as part of the healing protocol and modalities of people doing an emotional work, like going to therapies and things? Because if your liver stores anger and you’re energetically doing emotional work and you’re doing enemas and things like that, what an amazing way to open yourself up to have more of an open mind, to release toxicity in the form of emotional toxicity as you’re releasing physical toxicity. It’s almost as if people that go to therapists and things like that are missing a part of it, a healing component. Kate: Yeah. No, I couldn’t agree more. Justin: And for the Gerson Therapy, this entire thing is the foundation of their approach. So I would suspect that doing some emotional work along with it would be great. But the other thing that I thought was cool too was it kind of makes you understand how important it is to juice if you’re going to do the enemas. Kate: Yeah, which we do, but maybe we need to up the ante a little bit on that. Justin: Yeah, we juice probably about… what, five days a week, I’d say? Kate: Yeah. We used to do it every day for a while there, but… Justin: But it would be beneficial if you’re going to do enemas to make sure you juice, which is awesome because juicing is great for your skin, cancer prevention and it’s great for all these other reasons. But it just kind of forces you to do something else. Kate: Yeah, it gets you into a second good habit. Justin: Exactly. Kate: Yeah. I’m with you. Justin: Dr. Patrick Vickers. Kate: Oh, that was great. Justin: He is an amazing individual. Northern Baja Gerson Treatment Center. Kate: Do you know where? Justin: He’s in Rosarito. Kate: Oh, okay. We’ve been there. Justin: Yeah, so he’s not too far from us. I think he’s about 30 minutes south of the border at Tijuana. Kate: That’s not bad. Justin: And he told me before the show that, I think, four times a week he’s got to go up to San Diego to get produce. So he had to leave right at 10:00 because he’s… Kate: Got to go get his goods. Justin: Yeah, I mean the whole foundation of his… If he doesn’t get that produce, people don’t heal. Kate: Nobody’s getting healed, right? Yeah, you could tell he’s very passionate about what he does and he only does the best of the best. Justin: Yeah, so check out GersonTreatment.com. If you know of anyone with cancer, you really should look into his protocols and don’t forget to check out our show with Kari Gray that we did yesterday on cancer… Not on cancer. Well, she had cancer, but we did a show, Episode 184, and if you look into the Gerson Treatment and find out you can’t afford it or it’s too expensive, there is a really interesting new insurance option called MyGreenSurance.com and this is really fascinating because it is basically catastrophic insurance for life-threatening diseases and diagnoses, but they cover… Kate: Any kind of alternative treatment center you… or whatever treatments you wish to do. Justin: Yeah. So this is something huge. Kate: Check that out. Justin: I have no idea how much it costs, but if you’ve heard it costs too much—because I’m sure it’s expensive because it costs a lot to do all this stuff—but listen to our show, Episode 184, ExtremeHealthRadio.com/184 and listen to our show with Kari Gray because that might open up some options for you, in terms of the Gerson Treatment. Kate: Yes. Check it out. Justin: Good stuff. All right, everybody. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it so much. If you have any questions about the show, you can go to ExtremeHealthRadio.com/185 and make your comments at the bottom of that show page and you can also email the questions to me or Kate, justin@ExtremeHealthRadio.com. Kate: Or kate@ExtremeHealthRadio.com. Justin: And if you want to share the benefits of coffee enemas with all your Facebook friends—I’m sure they’re going to love it—please pass this show on if you can, to anyone you know via Facebook, Twitter or just by email. That would be very, very helpful to us and it will be amazing for everybody. Kate: And we’ll be back for another show. Justin: That’s right—shortly. Kate: Yep. So anybody live listening, we’ll be back at 11:00 our time. Justin: 11:00 Pacific, in 45 minutes, to talk about rebounding. Kate: Awesome. Justin: That’ll be good stuff. All right, everybody. Thank you so much for joining us and we’ll catch you on the next episode. [ADVERTISEMENT] Thank you for listening to this episode. It’s time to go for now, but our mission does not end with this show. Justin and Kate will be back with another interview, packed full of ideas, discoveries and unique ways to regain your health. Head on over to ExtremeHealthRadio.com/Subscribe and instantly download our free gift to you that contains cutting edge strategies to start making healthy lifestyle changes today. [CLOSING COMMENTS] No material on this blog is intended to suggest that you should not seek professional medical care. 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