The Source of Commercial Real Estate

Jonathan Hayek
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Jan 13, 2026 • 42min

Breaking Free From the Golden Handcuffs to Full Time CRE with TJ Burns

Click to text the show!TJ Burns originally worked for a start-up which was purchased by Amazon, causing him to become an Amazon employee. He eventually quit Amazon working as an engineer and broke free from the proverbial golden handcuffs. We're talking six figure salary and six figure annual bonuses. A lot of people in real estate aspire to quit their W-2 in order to pursue real estate full-time, and in this conversation we talk pretty extensively about TJ's mindset and his preparation into what helped him make his decision to quit a high paying tech job and strike out on his own. We continue to talk about his multiple funds, why he chose to go to the fund route instead of individual deals, why he's focused on doing relatively small deals and how he's finding passive investors today. Connect with TJ: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thburns42/https://burnscapital.com/ Email Jonathan with comments or suggestions:podcast@thesourcecre.comOr visit the webpage:www.thesourcecre.com*The audio of this podcast is never generated by AI. However, some of the show notes and images may have been generated using AI tools.
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Jan 6, 2026 • 34min

CRE Insight from $37B in Transactions with Chad Lavender

Click to text the show!Chad Lavender is the President of Capital Markets, North America with Newmark. He has particpated in more than $37 billion in transactions throughout his career. In this conversation we discuss the importance of his undergrad education, niching down into an asset specialization, working out distressed debt, and how his team advises (and not sells) clients. Connect with Chad:https://www.nmrk.com/people/chad-lavenderhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-lavender-03551bb/ Email Jonathan with comments or suggestions:podcast@thesourcecre.comOr visit the webpage:www.thesourcecre.com*The audio of this podcast is never generated by AI. However, some of the show notes and images may have been generated using AI tools.
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Dec 29, 2025 • 44min

Working Out Distressed CMBS Debt with Michael Cohen

Click to text the show!CMBS loans can be great for stabilized properties. They offer great terms and low rates. But what happens if you want to talk to a real human about your loan? What if you need a loan modification? With CMBS, a nightmare will ensue. Michael Cohen specializes in helping borrowers do CMBS loan workouts. Connect with Michael:https://brightoncapitaladvisors.com/https://www.linkedin.com/company/brightoncapitaladvisors/ Email Jonathan with comments or suggestions:podcast@thesourcecre.comOr visit the webpage:www.thesourcecre.com*The audio of this podcast is never generated by AI. However, some of the show notes and images may have been generated using AI tools.
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Dec 22, 2025 • 27min

Cash is King: Advising CRE Clients in Indianapolis with Ryan Cadwell

Click to text the show!Connect with Ryan:https://resoluterdm.com/ Email Jonathan with comments or suggestions:podcast@thesourcecre.comOr visit the webpage:www.thesourcecre.com*The audio of this podcast is never generated by AI. However, some of the show notes and images may have been generated using AI tools.
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Dec 19, 2025 • 31min

Value and Opportunity in Distressed Office and Multifamily with Jenny Zhan

Click to text the show!Jenny Zhan discusses her contrarian commercial real estate investing strategies including office and distressed multifamily. Connect with Jenny:https://beyond-wm.com/ Email Jonathan with comments or suggestions:podcast@thesourcecre.comOr visit the webpage:www.thesourcecre.com*The audio of this podcast is never generated by AI. However, some of the show notes and images may have been generated using AI tools.
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Dec 16, 2025 • 35min

This $4B Institution is Developing Residential and Industrial in OZs with Peter Ciganik

Click to text the show!Today we are talking with someone who operates at an institutional level. He helps manage a $4 billion fund and he raises capital from other institutions like pension funds and university endowments. It is always good for us as investors and brokers to understand what the big players are thinking about and how they're making decisions. In this case this particular group is banking heavily on multifamily development, in industrial development, and even residential like single-family and build to rent development. Connect with Peter:https://www.gtispartners.com/ Email Jonathan with comments or suggestions:podcast@thesourcecre.comOr visit the webpage:www.thesourcecre.com*The audio of this podcast is never generated by AI. However, some of the show notes and images may have been generated using AI tools.
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Dec 9, 2025 • 38min

Building a 13+ Property Industrial Fund with Geoff Stuhr

Click to text the show!Our guest today has niched down into Class B Industrial real estate in Southeast Wisconsin. The fact that he has niched down so narrowly is one of his biggest strengths and competitive advantages because it allows him to know his market and asset type better than almost anyone else. We talk about how Geoff thinks about risk, how he mitigates risk, why he decided to start a fund instead of syndicating deal by deal, and we go into one property in his fund that is performing the worst and he details why it's performing below expectations. Connect with Geoff:https://smartassetcapital.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoffstuhr/ Email Jonathan with comments or suggestions:podcast@thesourcecre.comOr visit the webpage:www.thesourcecre.com*The audio of this podcast is never generated by AI. However, some of the show notes and images may have been generated using AI tools.
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Dec 2, 2025 • 31min

Keeping Class A Trophy Office 98% Occupied with Tiffany McSwain

Click to text the show!Connect with Tiffany:https://transwestern.com/tiffany.mcswainhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffany-mcswain-ccim-2321ab15/ Email Jonathan with comments or suggestions:podcast@thesourcecre.comOr visit the webpage:www.thesourcecre.com*The audio of this podcast is never generated by AI. However, some of the show notes and images may have been generated using AI tools.
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Nov 24, 2025 • 30min

Providing Capital for Great Deals and Quality Sponsors with Derrick Barker

Click to text the show!Connect with Derrick:https://www.usenectar.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/derrick-barker-3b1590a/ Email Jonathan with comments or suggestions:podcast@thesourcecre.comOr visit the webpage:www.thesourcecre.com*The audio of this podcast is never generated by AI. However, some of the show notes and images may have been generated using AI tools.
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Nov 18, 2025 • 39min

Self-Funded Deals, Money Values, Strategy with Gino Barbaro

Click to text the show!Connect with Gino:https://barbaro360.com/ Email Jonathan with comments or suggestions:podcast@thesourcecre.comOr visit the webpage:www.thesourcecre.com*The audio of this podcast is never generated by AI. However, some of the show notes and images may have been generated using AI tools.

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