
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes.
Latest episodes

Nov 21, 2016 • 60min
PNR 158: What Does Fake News Mean for Content Marketing?
In this very special Thanksgiving episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert are together again, first discussing the big partnership news between MXM and C3, setting the stage for a content marketing mega agency. Facebook continues to have problems with fake news, and Joe and Robert discuss what the impact will be for brands. Rants and raves include more Facebook and their big measurement issues. This week's TOM example: Butterball. This week's news stories: MXM and C3 Unite to Form the First content Centric Global Agency Network http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mxm-and-european-content-giant-c3-unite-to-form-the-first-content-centric-global-agency-network-300363732.html Facebook Admits It Must Do More To Stop The Spread of Misinformation On Its Platform https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/10/facebook-admits-it-must-do-more-to-stop-the-spread-of-misinformation-on-its-platform/ 7 New Podcast Statistics for 2016 http://www.convinceandconvert.com/content-marketing/7-new-podcast-facts-and-statistics-for-2016/ EPISODE SPONSOR - Intelligent Content Conference. Rates go up on December 17th. Register today: http://intelligentcontentconference.com RANTS AND RAVES http://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/marketing-and-sales/our-insights/making-your-marketing-organization-agile-a-step-by-step-guide http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/3502017 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trumps-war-on-media-is-boosting-subscriptions-donations-for-news-outlets-2016-11-16 http://www.thedrum.com/news/2016/11/16/facebook-vows-be-more-transparent-about-metrics-after-admitting-more-miscalculations TOM - Butterball http://www.butterball.com/turkey-talk-line http://www.firstlinemedia.com/mnr/butterball_2016/ http://mashable.com/2016/10/31/butterball-turkey-talk-line-text/#hB.FVC2D38qB

Nov 14, 2016 • 1h 1min
PNR 157: WordPress and Medium Begin Turf War for Owned Media
In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the IAB's latest research on advertising growth...what's right and incorrect about it. In other news, WordPress and Medium are ready to battle website turf, and blogs are getting longer and taking longer to write. Rants and raves include live magazines and the downfall of the press. This week's TOM example: Autodesk. This week's story links: Top Sponsor: Get the Content Marketing Benchmark report, courtesy of Noosh at http://cmi.media/pnr157b Ad Revenues for First half of 2016 are at an All Time Highhttps://www.iab.com/news/digital-ad-revenues-grow-19-year-year-first-half-2016/ WordPress and the Future of Publishing https://contently.com/strategist/2016/11/08/wordpress-publishing-future/ New Research: 3rd Annual Survey of 1000+ Bloggers (time, length and tacticshttps://www.orbitmedia.com/blog/blogger-trends/ EPISODE SPONSOR Curalate...download their guide to understanding millennials - http://cmi.media/pnr157a RANTS AND RAVES https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/2016/11/08/live-magazines-put-you-room-with-story/5MQYxt3yEplxADDtdryTuL/story.html TOM AutoDesk: https://insights.newscred.com/autodesk-content-marketing-redshift/

Nov 7, 2016 • 1h 3min
PNR 156: Deep Content Insights after Three Years of Podcasting
In this special three-year anniversary (and one million download) episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert dig back into the archives and discuss what's made them successful in their careers. Then, both discuss what they've seen work and not work in enterprises around the world when it comes to content marketing. Rants and raves include Forbes and Yahoo! This week's TOM example: Chief Content Officer (CCO) magazine. This week's story links: Top Sponsor: Noosh and Get the Content Marketing Benchmark Report - http://cmi.media/pnr156b 5 Trends to Watch In Content Marketing For 2017http://www.forbes.com/sites/miketempleman/2016/11/03/content-marketing-trends-what-to-expect-in-2017-and-beyond/#4a9f2c6550ca Episode Sponsor: Curalate and the 6 Tips to Lower Your Cost-Per-Click by 40% - http://cmi.media/pnr156a RANTS AND RAVES https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/WTW/?p=WTW https://www.amazon.com/Competing-Against-Luck-Innovation-Customer/dp/0062435612/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 TOM EXAMPLE:http://contentmarketinginstitute.com/chief-content-officer/

Nov 1, 2016 • 1h 2min
PNR 155: Social Media Platforms Take More Victims
In this week's This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss Twitter's decision to kill Vine and why brands and content creators should have known better. Agencies start to launch print magazines, while IDG's content creation model is one all brand's should emulate. Rants and raves include not starting a podcast and five ways to scare your boss into content marketing. This week's TOM example: Think with Google. This week's stories: Sponsor: Get Noosh's Content Marketing Benchmark report at: http://cmi.media/pnr155b Twitter Just Shut Down Vine 4 Years After Buying Ithttp://www.adweek.com/news/technology/twitter-just-shut-down-vine-4-years-after-buying-it-30-million-174301 Vine Shutdown loss to Black Culturehttp://www.vox.com/2016/10/28/13439450/vine-shutdown-loss-to-black-culture Why You Soon May be Seeing More Agencies Launch Their Own Print Magazineshttp://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/why-you-may-soon-be-seeing-more-agencies-launching-their-own-print-magazines-174146 How IDG Approaches Editorial Strategy http://www.fipp.com/news/features/how-idg-approaches-editorial-strategy EPISODE SPONSOR Curalate and the Millennials Guide: Engaging a Generation of Visual Buyers. Download it at http://cmi.media/pnr155a RANTS AND RAVES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5X1awpnL7A (subscribe link here: https://www.youtube.com/user/SparkMediaSolutions?sub_confirmation=1) http://thoughtcatalog.com/ryan-holiday/2016/10/please-please-for-the-love-of-god-do-not-start-a-podcast/ http://www.marketingaiinstitute.com/blog/introducing-the-marketing-artificial-intelligence-institute TOM Example: Think with Google https://www.thinkwithgoogle.com/

Oct 25, 2016 • 1h 4min
PNR 154: Content + Audience for the Win
In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the AT&T/Time Warner merger and what it means for marketing professionals. Email is becoming more important than ever, and the latest APAC content marketing research is dissected. Rants and raves include a new content book and poor, poor Mashable. This week's TOM example: Pinsent Masons. This week's article links: Top of the Show Sponsor: Noosh: Get the Content Marketing Benchmark report at: http://cmi.media/pnr154b NEWS AT&T Agrees to Purchase Time Warner For More than $80 Billionhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/23/business/dealbook/att-agrees-to-buy-time-warner-for-more-than-80-billion.html?_r=0 Email Is Evolving And Time Spent With It Is Growinghttp://www.cmo.com/adobe-digital-insights/articles/2016/9/30/adobe-email-survey-2016.html#gs.null Survey Proves APAC Marketers Have No Idea About Content Marketinghttps://www.linkedin.com/pulse/survey-proves-apac-marketers-have-idea-content-part-daniel-hochuli EPISODE SPONSOR The Complete Guide to Visual Commerce from Curalate: http://cmi.media/pnr154a RANTS AND RAVES http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/three-critical-mistakes-digital-businesses-make-with-content http://mashable.com/2016/10/18/chipotle-edgy-snapchat-show http://www.recode.net/2016/10/24/13381002/new-york-times-wirecutter-purchase-30-million-briam-lam-consumer-guide http://magculture.com/the-gap-document/ TOM Pinsent Masons http://contentmarketingtoday.com/2008/02/03/powerful-brand-built-by-great-content-marketing-from-uk-law-firm-pinsent-masons/

Oct 18, 2016 • 1h 4min
PNR 153: Is Content Marketing Actually a Thing?
In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss whether content marketing is actually different than marketing itself, and if it is, does it work? In M&A news, Google Acquires Famebit while more and more publishers search for new media business models. Rants and raves include Donny Osmond and HP Enterprise. This week's TOM example: MassMutual's Society of Grownups. This week's articles: Is Content Marketing A Load Of Bollockshttps://www.marketingweek.com/2016/10/11/is-content-marketing-a-load-of-bullsht/ Google Acquires Famebit to Connect Youtube Creators With Brandshttps://techcrunch.com/2016/10/11/google-acquires-famebit-to-connect-youtube-creators-with-brands/ Publishers Become Retailers In The Market For Survivalhttps://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/oct/10/publishers-become-retailers-in-the-market-for-survival 5 Takeaways From Hubspot’s State of Inbound 2016http://www.toprankblog.com/2016/09/hubspot-2016-report/ EPISODE SPONSOR Ion Interactive and the User Engagement Lookbook - Check it out here: http://cmi.media/pnr153 RANTS AND RAVES http://www.cmo.com/opinion/articles/2016/9/21/the-storytelling-cmo.html#gs.9A13wE8 http://www.cmo.com/opinion/articles/2016/9/13/leading-from-the-front.html#gs.OE2Hk1c https://www.hpe.com/us/en/insights.html?jumpid=ps_nfhbgkxma6/dm:_N117602.157906TIMEINC_139478513_311749138_0_4934935 THIS OLD MARKETING: Society of Grownups https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2016/10/11/massmutual-closes-society-grownups-storefront-tries-reach-millennial-customers/tlWWzQgMnsffklO7tQBjcK/story.html https://www.societyofgrownups.com/

Oct 10, 2016 • 1h 4min
PNR 152: Thought Leadership Requires Actual Leading Thoughts
In this episode of Pulizzi and Rose with This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the New York Times and their new Flex Frame native advertising unit - and what markets can learn about user experience. The boys then dissect the art of thought leadership, which requires both thought and leadership, while McDonald's YouTube channel goes down, flame-broiled style. Rants and raves include the Twitter sale and Facebook's marketplace launch. This week's TOM example: Pressed Juicery This week's show links: NYTimes Shuns Banner Ads In Favor of Proprietary Ad format http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-times-shuns-banner-ads-in-favor-of-proprietary-ad-format-1475661662 Thought Leadership Disrupted http://tldisrupted.com What McDonalds Has Learned From Its Failed YouTube Channel http://www.thedrum.com/news/2016/10/06/what-mcdonald-s-has-learned-its-failed-youtube-channel EPISODE SPONSOR Ion Interactive and the User Engagement Lookbook - Check it out here: http://cmi.media/pnr152 RANTS AND RAVES http://www.wsj.com/video/analyst-dont-count-google-out-of-twitter-merger-talk/B9C61660-8AD6-4995-89F3-11616217026E.html http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2016/10/03/facebook-joins-the-collaborative-economy-with-marketplace/ THIS OLD MARKETING: Pressed Juicery http://thechalkboardmag.com/ https://growtheverywhere.com/growth-everywhere-interview/hayden-slater-pressed-juicery/

Oct 4, 2016 • 1h 9min
PNR 151: Audience, not Content, Is the Real Asset
In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the results of CMI's 2017 content marketing benchmarks report and find that content marketing is indeed all about building audience. Rolling Stone finds a buyer; and who really should be the agency in charge of content creation? Rants and raves include a Robert Rose book review while Mental Floss folds print. This week's TOM example: Saindbury's. This week's show notes: Singapore-based music startup buys 49% stake in Rolling Stone https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/25/bandlab-rolling-stone/ Content Marketing Takes A Turn For The Better - New 2017 Research http://contentmarketinginstitute.com/2016/09/content-marketing-research-b2b/ Content Creation Who’s Job Is It Anyway http://mediatel.co.uk/newsline/2016/09/27/content-creation-whose-job-is-it-anyway/ EPISODE SPONSOR ION Interactive and their interactive ebook - 50 Ways to Engage Your Audience http://cmi.media/pnr151 RANTS AND RAVES https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LK7GXKM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/09/24/paramount_has_some_regrets_about_monster_trucks.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru http://www.foliomag.com/mental-floss-shutters-print-edition/ http://digiday.com/publishers/publishers-appear-cooling-facebook-instant-articles/ TOM http://www.sainsburysmagazine.co.uk

Sep 26, 2016 • 1h 1min
PNR 150: How to Create a Successful Podcast
In this special 150th episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert spend some time talking about what makes a successful podcast, and each ponder on why PNR has lasted this wonderful 2.8 years. In other news, Facebook is public enemy number one for media companies and journalists and Salesforce considers buying Twitter. Rants and raves include the cost of content marketing and why we do content. This week's TOM example: Petfinder. This week's story links: Why Salesforce Might Be Interested in Twitter - https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/24/why-salesforce-might-be-interested-in-twitter/ Why Facebook Is Public Enemy Number One - https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/sep/20/why-facebook-is-public-enemy-number-one-for-newspapers-and-journalism EPISODE SPONSOR - ION Interactive and their interactive ebook - 50 Ways to Engage Your Audience http://cmi.media/pnr150b RANTS AND RAVES - http://www.cmo.com/interviews/articles/2015/12/3/cmo-interview-linda-boff-GE.html#gs.null TOM - Petfinder http://adage.com/article/news/nestle-purina-buy-petfinder/241995/

Sep 19, 2016 • 1h 3min
PNR 149: Digital Advertising Will Survive by Limiting Inventory
In this ThisOldMarketing episode, Adblock plus starts their own ad network (or do they?) and the boys discuss the future of advertising. AT&T looks to become a media company (of course) and some people think content marketing is hard to measure. Rants and raves include a lengthy talk about diversity in the event business. This week's TOM example: Walmart World. This week's show links: Adblock Is Absolutely Not Launching An Ad Network - But Yes They Are #SorryNotSorry https://contently.com/strategist/2016/09/14/adblock-plus-platform-backlash/ AT&T Wants to Be A Media Company - Here’s Who They Could Buy http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/13/att-wants-to-own-a-media-company--heres-who-they-could-buy.html Does The Content Marketing Industry Have a Measurement Problem http://www.martechadvisor.com/articles/content-marketing/does-the-content-marketing-industry-have-a-measurement-problem/ EPISODE SPONSOR - ON24 - Get the 2016 Webinar Benchmarks Report from ON24 - http://cmi.media/pnr149 RANTS AND RAVES - http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-comedians-in-cars-emmy-mov-0916-20160915-column.html https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/case-women-speakers-why-some-events-arent-getting-them-mcphillips?trk=prof-post https://www.futurum.xyz/digital-transformation-cannot-succeed-without-the-right-culture/ THIS OLD MARKETING - https://us.walmartone.com/en/walmart/news/walmart-world/