
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes.
Latest episodes

Oct 29, 2020 • 1h 6min
248: The Greatest Marketing Predictions Episode Ever (2021 version)
Yes, the big marketing predictions episode if finally here. Joe and Robert answer: - What will happen to the martech industry? - What big names will be bought and sold in 2021? - Who wins in content marketing...and who loses? - What does the future of in-person events look like? And don't worry...they cover the news as well...with a (probably final) Quibi update, as well as a great case study from The Dodo. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Oct 15, 2020 • 1h 7min
247: Why Netflix Would Buy AMC (and why that's important)
The boys kick off the show with highlights from the just finished Content Marketing World 2020. The streaming wars have begun. Disney has committed to it. Amazon and Apple are dabbling in it. But Netflix owns it. An AMC purchase (who might run out of cash by the end of the year) could be how it levels up. In other news, Facebook is the most distrusted social media platform (go figure), and Yelp adds a new "racist behavior exists here" component (which could be good but could also go wildly wrong). Robert has a new Quibi update (it's not good for Quibi) and raves (and rants) about Kraft's new commercial. Joe raves about Amazon's new print catalog and believes Juggernaut has it figured out when it comes to email newsletters. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Oct 1, 2020 • 1h 5min
246: The Future of Content Marketing, TikTok and Football
In this very special episode, Joe and Robert talk about Content Marketing World's 10 year anniversary, the changes in content marketing, and what should happen to the industry. News stories include TikTok's sale. Will it go through and when will that be? In addition, it looks like Google is going to bail out the entire publishing industry. And, of course, the boys discuss who is going to win the Cowboys/Browns game and what's on the line. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Sep 17, 2020 • 1h 7min
245: Why the TikTok Deal Will Absolutely Happen
The TikTok/Oracle deal comes under scrutiny, but both Joe and Robert think the deal with absolutely go through, especially while TikTok's numbers continue to grow. Facebook is getting in the email marketing business. Will they buy a business or consumer-side email marketing company, or go organic? The Taboola/Outbrain deal is off the table. The boys discuss why this happened and what's the future for the tech. And why are Google results always so old? Ryan Law discusses why businesses need to look at the second-mover advantage of search results. In rants and raves, Joe applauds the new Accidentally Wes Anderson book, while Robert laments zero-party data. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Sep 3, 2020 • 1h 1min
244: Facebook Cleans Up Political Ads...But that's Not the Problem
Facebook makes an announcement about curbing political ads, but still has a major problem with false organic content, as Russia again infiltrates the site. LEGO leverages user-generated content as new product development, while CVS launches a new media network. In rants and raves, Adweek buys Target Marketing and Publishing Executive, Facebook's CMO resigns to create more diversity, and Mattress Firm launches Sleep.com. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Aug 20, 2020 • 1h
243: Rented Land and Native Advertising Disaster
Major media companies from around the United States are divesting their real estate properties to right-size their business models. Washington Post pushes forward into native advertising territory as traditional advertising falters. Audio is even bigger than we thought it would be, while creators at TikTok don't understand that they built their homes on rented land, and are now searching for a way out. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Twinsthenewtrend and their viral video (and video strategy) behind "In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins. Robert applauds High Times for buying up dispensaries in California (another Content Inc. model). This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Aug 6, 2020 • 1h 8min
242: TikTok, the Nike Ad and Surprising Acquisitions
First, watch the Nike ad if you haven't. Required watching. TikTok was in the news this week, with a crazy deal in progress with Microsoft. In other news, Industry Dive purchased Newscred's content marketing studio business, while Digiday finds that branded content and native advertising spending is on a downward trend. Freightwaves media business has taken off and Buzzfeed now sells products (of course they do). Robert has another Quibi update and comments on Tom Goodwin's firing from Publicis. Joe loves the launch of The 19th, and comments about the closing of Folio: magazine. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Jul 23, 2020 • 1h 6min
241: Double Down or Diversify? That Is the Question
While Coca-Cola begins killing zombie brands in favor of old standbys, companies like The New York Times are diversifying like crazy. Who's right? Carnage is hitting digital media during the pandemic, affecting publishers just when they started to turn the corner, while content marketing, according to ANA research, is beginning to boom. Joe raves about Prof G's podcast with Adam Alter on recombination. Robert raves on Calm's new meditation app, and comments about Google's new cookie policy. This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Jul 9, 2020 • 1h 4min
240: Social Media Is Out to Destroy Us
Facebook was under fire this week for possibly spreading hate speech and misinformation (what's new?). Some people think Zuckerberg should be out. At the same time, TikTok may possibly be forced out of the United States as concern of Chinese data tampering persists. In other news, Lululemon buys Mirror in a content/technology deal that seemed almost too cheap to pass up. And when did Substack get so big? Could it be the next bubble? Rants and raves include a #Quibi update (doesn't look good) with Project M buying The Hard Times and Queen teaches about audience development. This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Jun 25, 2020 • 1h 5min
239: Who's Going to Be the Netflix of Business Content?
Almost all physical events are canceled for 2020. This means there will be a lot of innovation in the virtual events space. This also means a huge opportunity for a large tech brand to become the Netflix for business video content. The Girl Scouts are launching a new content brand called CircleAround. Both Joe and Robert love the idea, but the plan has some major flaws. Some publisher content studios are set up to fail, while Facebook faces a serious boycott to its services. In rants and raves, Robert's Quibi update...plus a rave about Apple's privacy policy. Joe has a commentary on how he almost gave up on his not-for-profit foundation (but didn't). This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.