
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes.
Latest episodes

Apr 23, 2021 • 1h 2min
Guess What? Advertising Is Rising (and Growing) (268)
Is the biggest part of a paid advertising budget with influencers now? The boys think not. Science seems to think that the web can survive without advertising. If so, there are huge opportunities for ungated media sites. And...it really doesn't matter what browser you advertise on. In social audio news, Discord launches their own Clubhouse. So will Facebook. And with Microsoft not buying Discord, who will? Breaking news: Apple will offer revamped podcast subscriptions and help drive podcaster revenue. Good? Probably not for the creator middle class. In rants and raves, Robert comments about Apple's big iOS launch, while Joe talks about being indispensable. In M&A news, the Seven Lakes Insider sells to The Pilot newspaper. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Apr 16, 2021 • 1h 8min
DraftKings Develops Content Marketing Playbook (267)
DraftKings hires a chief media offer, kicking off their formal program for content marketing and into actually buying media companies. The latest Pew social media research is out. What do we think? Facebook might be in trouble. Oh, and Americans hate social media but are addicted to it. The boys also discuss a rather lengthy article about the staying power of Clubhouse. Can the thrill continue? And mostly rants this week. Joe rants about YouTube's creator newsletter while Robert rants about IBM's new spinoff and P&G's Chinese data mystery. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Apr 9, 2021 • 1h 7min
Clubhouse Worth $20 Billion? (266)
Well, there's a new Facebook data leak, and Facebook is blaming users instead of taking responsibility. The good news? Facebook is updating their feeds so you can have more of what you want. Will it matter? Probably not. Clubhouse, the social audio unicorn, is now speculated at being worth $4 billion dollars. Robert thinks less. Joe thinks more. Clubhouse is also adding creator payment options. Robert is still not happy. Joe raves about Topps Trading Cards announcement that they are going public via SPAC, while Robert slams on The Drum for possibly the worst article ever written. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Apr 2, 2021 • 1h 7min
LinkedIn & Spotify Get Into Social Audio Game (265)
I know, it's hard to believe, but Episode #1 of This Old Marketing still has not sold yet as an NFT. Maybe you forgot? You can bid on it here at Opensea. The social audio battle continues this week, with Spotify buying social radio player Betty Labs, while LinkedIn is about to release their own version of Clubhouse. And guess what? Medium is pivoting again. This time, they are looking at a Substack model. Rants and raves include a rant from Joe about Substack's $650 million valuation, while Robert rants about marketers only focusing on numbers. This week's sponsor: Dialogue Ecommerce businesses are faced with intense competition to lure shoppers into their web shops. Once those shoppers have finally arrived – thanks to expensive marketing and advertising campaigns – the ‘battle has just begun’. Now you need to keep your shoppers engaged and interested, providing them with a shopping experience that is personalized and, yes – fun! – in order for them to fill their cart and check out, rather than bounce away to competitors. It’s a tall order, and ecommerce businesses need all the help they can get. Enter Dialogue, an AI-powered personalization platform that autonomously creates the ideal buyer journey for every shopper, in real time. Dialogue peppers the buyer’s journey with highly engaging interactions. The AI engine meets the shopper in every point of the journey with personalized product recommendations and relevant content that perfectly fit the shopper’s intent and browsing patterns to hit all the coveted ecommerce KPIs: increased average order value, conversion rate, time on site, and retention. Dialogue’s secret sauce is its conversational and witty tone that engages shoppers and elevates their experience. https://nowdialogue.com/ ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Mar 26, 2021 • 1h 6min
Yahoo Plus Nothing While MEL Goes Belly Up (264)
Bid on the first This Old Marketing NFT - Episode #1 now...proceeds going to charity. In this episode, Verizon announces the launch of a robust Yahoo Plus. All we can say is "ouch." Roku continues its Quibi-filled dominance by announcing a marketing services group that might actually work. The New York Times puts down its virtual foot on reporter side gigs. The boys wonder how that happened. And finally, MEL magazine from Dollar Shave Club goes belly up...but can you actually sell a custom magazine? I guess we will find out. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Microsoft's decision to buy Discord, while Robert comments on NBC's new platform, NewsPassID and how the big three continue to steal almost all advertising dollars. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Mar 19, 2021 • 1h 6min
Charmin's NFT Jumps the Shark (263)
The Oscars are back and guess what? Netflix absolutely crushed it (and yes, we called it years ago). Facebook is launched a new creator model for writers and journalists that is truly seductive, and will work for inhibiting creators from developing out their own platforms. In NFT land, Charmin has developed an NFT(P) that is sure to kill the entire NFT market (kill as in bad, not good). In rants and raves, Joe raves about Google's career certificate program launch while Robert rants about AT&T and net neutrality. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Mar 12, 2021 • 1h 7min
NFTs: It's Happening Sweetheart! (262)
After a royal analysis courtesy of Robert, the boys dissect Disney's subscription program as they hit over 100 million paid subscribers worldwide. The conversation pivots to NFTs (non-fungible tokens), as they discuss Seth Godin's latest blog post about the negatives of NFTs. Robert sides with Seth. Joe thinks Robert should take a ride to the old folks home. Regardless, creator business models are changing. Oh, and as the conversation was happening, Beeple sold his NFT for over $60 million dollars. Robert raves about Zapier buying Makerpad and rants about IAB's new plans. Joe rants and raves about event companies divesting their media properties. ------ This week's sponsor: accessiBe accessiBe, the company that conducted the research discussed on the show, offers an automated, AI-based accessibility solution and ongoing monitoring for websites of all sizes. Hands free, affordable and ever-lasting, ensuring your website is always accessible for people with disabilities and protecting you from legal action. Get an accessibility test on your website here. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

Mar 5, 2021 • 1h 7min
Twitter Goes Full Twitch (261)
To kick off the show, Joe and Robert detail their "advanced" Clubhouse experience (likes and dislikes) and why it may have legs. And did you check out the Tom Cruise deepfakes? Roku buys Nielsen's Advanced Video property, and increases its chances to corner the personalized TV advertising market. Axios details the ever-increasing amount of gambling properties getting into the content marketing game. Twitter does a Twitch and plans to launch a "Super Follows" program, which will most likely integrate into Twitter Spaces. And finally, Facebook launches a huge ad campaign against Apple's privacy restrictions. Can anyone say Philip Morris? In rants and raves, Joe discusses Wall Street Bets move to decentralization and Kings of Leon's new NFT while Robert rants about Google's privacy bomb. ------ This week's sponsor: Exceed.ai It is a known, and sad, fact that SaaS companies spend a not-so-small fortune on lead gen. CRMs are clogged with leads that, truth be told, get very little attention, usually in the form of nurture automation, a.k.a. pre-defined email sequence. The result? Few leads are converted and qualified into SQLs. Money spent goes to waste as sales team don’t have the capacity to properly qualify leads resulting in cold to lukewarm leads being pushed to sales calls just to ‘fill in the quota’, so to speak. This time, it’s time that’s wasted. You know where this is going… there must be a better way... Enter Exceed, intelligent AI that autonomously and automatically nurtures and qualifies leads. Exceed digs into your CRM and starts engaging leads in two-way conversations via email, website chat and text messages. The interactions are wholly conversational and personalized based on user and historical data. Once the AI qualifies a lead it independently books a sales call with the relevant sales rep and – immediately – goes back to qualifying more leads. https://exceed.ai/ ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

Feb 26, 2021 • 1h 7min
How Evil Is Facebook? (260)
In headline news, Facebook makes a deal with the Aussie press, doing exactly what we said they would do last week. At the same time, Facebook commits to $1 billion for the news industry. A generous gift or more of the same from Facebook? Macy's media network is taking off to a tune of more than $35 million. Can their business model be saved? Robert and Joe believe the opportunities are great in number. Print is back again, while the great ad tech consolidation is upon us. Rants and raves include social money creator tokens from an Oregon-based band and the worldwide web is ending as we know it. ------ This week's sponsor: accessiBe accessiBe, the company that conducted the research discussed on the show, offers an automated, AI-based accessibility solution and ongoing monitoring for websites of all sizes. Hands free, affordable and ever-lasting, ensuring your website is always accessible for people with disabilities and protecting you from legal action. Get an accessibility test on your website here. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

Feb 19, 2021 • 1h 7min
Facebook Invades Australia (259)
This week Joe and Robert cover the big news that, after the passage of a media bargaining law, Facebook bans all media companies from its app. Shock abounds, with a number of sites that are "not" media companies being affected. YouTube tries to be more like TikTok and Snap and launches a number of "short-video" strategies. And news from the passion economy with the launch of Li Jin's Atelier Ventures, a $13 million fund to support content creators and content creator tech. Rants and raves include Joe's take on non-fungible tokens (NFTs) and Robert's commentary on how tech companies are taking over higher education. ------ This week's sponsor: accessiBe accessiBe, the company that conducted the research discussed on the show, offers an automated, AI-based accessibility solution and ongoing monitoring for websites of all sizes. Hands free, affordable and ever-lasting, ensuring your website is always accessible for people with disabilities and protecting you from legal action. Get an accessibility test on your website here. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.