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fiction/non/fiction
Hosted by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan, fiction/non/fiction interprets current events through the lens of literature, and features conversations with writers of all stripes, from novelists and poets to journalists and essayists.
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Aug 12, 2021 • 1h 19min
S4 Ep. 23: From the Mouths of Babes: Wayne Miller and Elizabeth Gaffney on Writing About Children in Uncertain Times
Poet Wayne Miller and novelist Elizabeth Gaffney join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss writing from the point of view of children before and during the pandemic. First, Miller discusses the unknowable interior lives of children, reads poems from his new collection We the Jury, and talks about connections to his essay “Learning to Write About Your Own Children.” Later, Gaffney reads an excerpt from her 2014 novel When the World Was Young, and discusses how the traumas her child narrator survives during WWII compare to the challenges children have faced during COVID-19.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This episode is produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Whitney Terrell.Selected readings:Wayne Miller
We The Jury
Learning to Write About Your Own Children, LitHub
When Talking About Poetry Online Goes Very Wrong, LitHub
Elizabeth Gaffney
When the World Was Young
Metropolis
The 24-Hour Room
Others:
Catcher in the Rye
Family Ties
The Branch Will Not Break by James Wright
Kindred by Octavia Butler
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Aug 8, 2021 • 6min
Fiction/Non/Fiction Presents Wondery's True Love
While you wait for the next episoe of Fiction/Non/Fiction, we wanted to share a preview of a new podcast from our friends over at Wondery.Looking for a new podcast that's like Olivia Pope meets your favorite Ryan Murphy show? Or do you just love a good scandal? On True Love, a new fiction podcast from Wondery, you'll hear stories of scandalous flings, secret affairs, and the drama that ensues. TRUE LOVE brings these relationships to life through reimagined stories about love, lust and heartbreak. From secret celebrity hookups that play out under the cover of night to the web of lies it took to protect a high profile politician from revealing his secret life, each character finds themselves mixed up in every form of drama imaginable. This is just a preview of True Love, but you can listen to full episodes at wondery.fm/TL_FictionNonFiction. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 29, 2021 • 1h
S4 Ep. 22: Why Be A Critic? Laura Miller on Reading, Listening to, and Writing About Books
Acclaimed Slate books and culture columnist Laura Miller joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss the ins and outs of being a critic. Miller discusses a recent piece about diversity and representation in audiobook narration. She also talks about reading for pleasure versus work, and why, when she’s not reviewing, she often finds herself listening to authors.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Andrea Tudhope.Selected readings:Laura Miller
The Magician’s Book: A Skeptic’s Adventures in Narnia
“The People Who Voice Audiobooks with Diverse Characters are Squirming Right Now,” Slate
“Enough With Literature as Self-Improvement!” Salon.com
“The Dark History Behind the Year’s Bestselling Debut Novel,” Slate
Others:
“The Good Lieutenant by Whitney Terrell review – the Bush wars' best novel” by Charles Finch, The Guardian
“Greetings From Polysyllabia” by Nandini Lal, Washington Post
Wonderworks by Angus Fletcher
Minders of Make-Believe: Idealists, Entrepreneurs, and the Shaping of AmericanChildren's Literature by Leonard Marcus
“Toil and Trouble” by Caleb Crain, New York Times Book Review
“The Hideous Unknown of H.P. Lovecraft” by Charles Baxter, The New York Review
“Reply to Charles Baxter’s ‘The Hideous Unknown of H. P. Lovecraft’” by S.T. Joshi
“What Muriel Park Saw” by Parul Sehgal, The New Yorker
“Philip Roth’s Revenge Fantasy,” by Laura Marsh, New Republic
Judith Shulevitz, New York Times
Zadie Smith
Dwight Garner, New York Times
Daniel Mendelsohn, New York Review of Books
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Jul 15, 2021 • 1h 25min
S4 Ep. 21: Fiction/Non/Fiction at 100 Episodes: Whit, Sugi, and Special Guest Jabari Asim Reflect on the Podcast’s Indelible Interviews and Controversies From the Past Four Years
For the 100th episode of Fiction/Non/Fiction, co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan hand out the first-ever “Nonnie Awards” for the podcast’s standout moments from the past four years. Then author, poet, and playwright Jabari Asim reflects on how the discourse on racism and police brutality has shifted since last summer. Asim also reads from his upcoming novel Yonder, out in January 2022.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Andrea Tudhope.Selected readings:Jabari Asim
Yonder (out January 2022, available for pre-order)
Stop and Frisk
We Can’t Breathe: On Black Lives, White Lies, and the Art of Survival
Mighty Justice
Others:
Halfway Home: Race, Punishment, and the Afterlife of Mass Incarceration by Ruben Jonathan Miller
The 1619 Project, Nikole Hannah-Jones
The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas
Watchmen (TV series)
Fiction/Non/Fiction, June 2020: Black Stories Matter: Terrion Williamson and Jabari Asim on Narrative During the George Floyd Protests
Fiction/Non/Fiction, February 2020: Coronavirus and Contagion: Laurie Chen and Richard Preston on Writing About the Spread of Disease
Fiction/Non/Fiction, March 2019: C. Riley Snorton and T Fleischmann Talk Gender, Race, and Literature
Fiction/Non/Fiction, September 2018: Garrard Conley and SJ Sindu on the Mainstreaming of Queer Identity
Fiction/Non/Fiction, January 2018: Literary Color Lines: On Inclusion in Publishing
Fiction/Non/Fiction, November 2017: We’re All Russian, Now: Talking Russian-American Politics, and the Enduring Appeal of Russian Literature
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Jul 1, 2021 • 52min
S4 Ep. 20: ‘Goldfish Memory’: Adam Serwer on Critical Race Theory and the Very American Fear of Owning up to Our Racist Past and Present
Atlantic staff writer and author Adam Serwer joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss how opposition to critical race theory aligns with our country’s historical resistance to acknowledging the truth and changing. Serwer reads from and discusses his new book The Cruelty is the Point: The Past, Present, and Future of Trump’s America, out this week.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Andrea Tudhope.Selected readings:Adam Serwer
The Cruelty is the Point: The Past, Present, and Future of Trump’s America
“The Cruel Logic of the Republican Party, Before and After Trump,” New York Times
“The Nationalist’s Delusion,” The Atlantic
Others:
Eric Foner
“The Great Awokening” by Matt Yglesias, Vox
The King of Kings County by Whitney Terrell
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Jun 17, 2021 • 1h 19min
S4 Ep. 19: A Cycle of Disappearance: Shir Alon and Joseph Farag On How Palestinian and Israeli Literature Has Handled the Ongoing Conflict
Scholars Shir Alon and Joseph Farag join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss how Palestinian and Israeli writers have written about the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. Farag talks about the evolution of the portrayal of the Palestinian self in literature throughout history, as well as some of the themes and writers discussed in his book, Palestinian Literature in Exile: Gender, Aesthetics and Resistance in the Short Story. Alon explains how the unprocessed trauma of the history of massacre and expulsion of Palestinians seems to stage an appearance in Israeli literature every decade. She also talks about Dolly City by Orly Castel-Bloom, Minor Detail by Adania Shibli, and Funeral at Noon by Yeshayahu Koren.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Andrea Tudhope.Selected readings:Shir Alon
Static: Labor, Temporality, and Literary Form in Middle Eastern Modernisms (forthcoming book)
“The Ongoing Nakba and the Grammar of History,” LA Review of Books
“No One to See Here: Genres of Neutralization and the Ongoing Nakba”
“Gendering the Arab-Jew: Feminism and Jewish Studies After Ella Shohat”
Joseph Farag
Palestinian Literature in Exile Gender, Aesthetics and Resistance in the Short Story
Teaching with Arabic Literature in Translation: ‘Palestinian Literature and Film’
Others:
Amos Oz
David Grossman
Facing the Forests by A. B. Yehoshua
Khirbet Khizeh by S. Yizhar
The Old New Land (Altneuland) by Theodor Herzl
Men in the Sun, Palestine's Children: Returning to Haifa and Other Stories, and All That's Left to You: A Novella and Other Stories by Ghassan Kanafani
"A Lover from Palestine," "ID Card," and many others by Mahmoud Darwish
The Ship by Jabra Ibrahim Jabra
Wild Thorns and Passage to the Plaza by Sahar Khalifeh
Eye of the Mirror and A Balcony Over the Fakihani by Liana Badr
Nathan Alterman
Funeral at Noon by Yeshayahu Koren
Minor Detail by Adania Shibli
Dolly City by Orly Castel-Bloom
The Sound of Our Steps by Ronit Matalon
Waltz with Bashir (film) by Ari Folman
The Pessoptimist by Emile Habibi
Divine Intervention, The Time that Remains, and It Must Be Heaven (films) by Elia Suleiman
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Jun 3, 2021 • 1h 22min
S4 Ep. 18: In the Soup: Sean McDonald and Monica West On Publishing During, and After, a Pandemic
Editor and publisher Sean McDonald and novelist Monica West join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss how the “reopening” of the country is affecting authors and the publishing industry. First, McDonald, founder of MCD Books, a division of Farrar, Straus and Giroux, talks about publishing in the pandemic, and how that experience may shape the industry going forward. Then, West reads from her debut novel, Revival Season, and shares what it’s been like to launch a book during (fingers crossed!) the pandemic’s waning days.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Andrea Tudhope.Selected readings:Sean McDonald
MCD x FSG
The Electric Eel newsletter
Monica WestRevival Season Others:
“FSG Names McDonald Head of Experimental Imprint,” Publishers Weekly
Beowulf: A New Translation by Maria Dahvana Headley
Sharks in the Time of Saviors by Kawai Strong Washburn
Until Proven Safe by Geoff Manaugh and Nicola Twilley
The Mamba Mentality by Kobe Bryant, Phil Jackson and Pau Gasol
Hummingbird Salamander by Jeff VanderMeer
Sorrowland by Rivers Solomon
F/N/F Season 3, Episode 10: Coronavirus and Contagion: Laurie Chen and Richard Preston on Writing About the Spread of Disease
F/N/F Season 4, Episode 3: Monsters for President: Maria Dahvana Headley on Modern Mythmaking
F/N/F Episode 26: Garrard Conley and SJ Sindu on the Mainstreaming of Queer Identity
F/N/F Season 3, Episode 6: Rene Denfeld and Megan Phelps-Roper on Isolating the Language of Abuse in Politics, Gender Relations, and Sexual Abuse
F/N/F Season 3, Episode 24: Summer Books Extravaganza: Margot Livesey and Jaswinder Bolina on Beach Reading When the Beach is Closed
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May 20, 2021 • 1h 22min
S4 Ep. 17: Biden Boom? Carolin Benack and Sanjena Sathian on the Fiction of the Economy and the Dangerous Appeal of Excess
Scholar Carolin Benack and novelist Sanjena Sathian join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss how literature and economics intersect. First, Benack talks about the theoretical storytelling that is economics, and reads from her article on the topic. Then, Sathian reads from her debut novel Gold Diggers and talks about the American obsession with excess, and how our fluctuating economy impacts our relationship with wealth and reinvention.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Andrea Tudhope.Selected readings:Carolin Benack
“Economists are more like storytellers than scientists – don't let the Nobel for 'economic sciences' fool you”
Sanjena SathianGold Diggers Others:
The Body Economic: Life, Death, and Sensation in Political Economy and the Victorian Novel by Catherine Gallagher
“The Economy of Pain: Capitalism, Humanitarianism, and the Realistic Novel,” by Wai Chee Dimock
U.S. Intelligence Report Warns of Global Consequences of Social Fragmentation, from The New York Times
All the King’s Men by Robert Penn Warren
The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald
Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen
A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again by David Foster Wallace
Rabbit Hole, podcast from the New York Times
George Saunders
Edith Wharton
John Updike
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May 6, 2021 • 1h 26min
S4 Ep. 16: Making It New: Michael Kleber-Diggs and Kao Kalia Yang on How Minnesota's Famed Literary Scene is Reacting to Racial Injustice at Home
Poet Michael Kleber-Diggs and memoirist Kao Kalia Yang join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss Minnesota’s complex history with immigrants, as well as how the Twin Cities’ literary scene is responding in the wake of the murder of George Floyd. First, Kleber-Diggs reads from his forthcoming debut poetry collection, Worldly Things, and talks about being a Black poet in Minnesota. Then, Yang reflects on her experience entering the literary community as a Hmong refugee, and reads from her new book, Somewhere in the Unknown World: A Collective Refugee Memoir. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Andrea Tudhope.Selected readings:Michael Kleber-Diggs
Worldly Things
There’s a Revolution Outside, My Love: Letters from a Crisis edited by Tracy K. Smith and John Freeman
“Letter From St. Paul: On the Complex Flavors of Black Joy,” Literary Hub
You. Are. Not. Welcome. Here. Being Black in Minnesota | Essay Minnesota Reformer
Kao Kalia Yang
Somewhere in the Unknown World
The Latehomecomer
The Song Poet
A Map Into The World
The Shared Room
The Most Beautiful Thing
What God Is Honored Here?: Writings on Miscarriage and Infant Loss by and for Native Women and Women of Color co-edited with Shannon Gibney
Others:
The Spirit Catches You And You Fall Down by Anne Fadiman
Walter Mondale, Ex-Vice President Under Jimmy Carter, Dies at 93, The New York Times
The Center for Victims of Torture
The Advocates for Human Rights
‘These People Aren’t Coming From Norway’: Refugees in a Minnesota City Face a Backlash
Refugenius/Saymoukda Duangphouxay Vongsay
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Apr 22, 2021 • 53min
S4 Ep. 15: Workshop Politics: Matthew Salesses on Centering Traditionally Marginalized Writers
Bestselling novelist Matthew Salesses joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about the politics, history, and context driving different modes of teaching fiction writing. After sharing an excerpt from his new book Craft in the Real World, Salesses explains how the traditional creative writing workshop model fails marginalized writers, and why examining craft questions through a range of lenses should matter to both writers and readers. He also reads from his new novel Disappear Doppelgänger Disappear, which is a finalist for the PEN/Faulkner Award.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Andrea Tudhope.Selected readings:Matthew Salesses
Craft in the Real World
Disappear Doppelgänger Disappear
The Hundred-Year Flood
I’m Not Saying, I’m Just Saying
Different Racisms: On Stereotypes, the Individual, and Asian American Masculinity
The Last Repatriate
Others:
Tiger Writing by Gish Jen
No-No Boy by John Okada
Who Killed Vincent Chin? (documentary) by Christine Choy and Renee Tajima-Pena
Drumline (film) by Charles Stone III
A Fine Balance by Rohinton Mistry
The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
“Unsilencing the Writing Workshop” by Beth Nguyen
Native Son by Richard Wright
Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D for Nintendo 3DS
Books by Haruki Murakami
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