

fiction/non/fiction
fiction/non/fiction
Hosted by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan, fiction/non/fiction interprets current events through the lens of literature, and features conversations with writers of all stripes, from novelists and poets to journalists and essayists.
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Dec 30, 2021 • 54min
S5 Ep. 7: Complicity, Corruption, and Accountability: Asali Solomon on The Days of Afrekete and the January 6 Investigation
Novelist Asali Solomon joins hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss accountability, the ongoing Congressional investigation into the January 6 insurrection, and her new novel. The Days of Afrekete, an Obama-era story, follows Liselle Belmont, a Black woman throwing a dinner party for her white husband, a politician who is suspected of corruption. As she considers her own personal and political choices, she flashes back to a lost love: her college girlfriend Selena. Solomon reads from the book and talks about depicting accountability and its lack, the intimate costs of being connected to power, and how Virginia Woolf’s Mrs. Dalloway, Toni Morrison’s Sula, and Audre Lorde’s Zami influenced her storytelling. She also reflects on how reading the late bell hooks gave her a new vision of herself in the world.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel, Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and our website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings:Asali Solomon
The Days of Afrekete
Disgruntled
Get Down
Killing the Donald Trump in Us: How to Be Less Like the Man We Elected to Lead Us
Others:
About | Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol
Philadelphia keeps revisiting MOVE bombing history because we never truly learned it | Opinion
Rashida Tlaib berates Mark Meadows for using black woman as 'a prop' at hearing - POLITICO
Liz Cheney Takes Center Stage in Jan. 6 Inquiry - The New York Times
Significant Other | The New Yorker
House Seeks Contempt Charge Against Meadows in Jan. 6 Inquiry - The New York Times
Meadows and the Band of Loyalists: How They Fought to Keep Trump in Power - The New York Times
A Dinner Party About Lost Selves and Lost Chances - Electric Literature
The Good Wife
The West Wing
Zami by Audre Lorde
Sula by Toni Morrison
Angela Davis
Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf
bell hooks
Black Looks
Teaching to Transgress
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Dec 16, 2021 • 43min
S5 Ep. 6: Immigration in Europe: Nadifa Mohamed on Belarus, Brexit, and the EU’s Accelerating Racism Towards Migrants of Color
Acclaimed novelist Nadifa Mohamed joins hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the crisis around migrants passing from Belarus into Poland and thus into the E.U. Mohamed analyzes the crisis, engineered by Russian-backed strongman Alexander Lukashenko, in the context of Europe’s historical antipathy toward immigration, and reads from her Booker Prize-shortlisted novel, The Fortune Men, the fictionalized account of a Somali immigrant named Mahmood Mattan, set in Cardiff, Wales during the 1950s. She discusses how attitudes toward immigration shaped Brexit and the U.K.’s draconian new Nationality and Borders Bill, which will potentially affect the lives of around six million people, including the novelist herself. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel, Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and our website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Hayden Baker.Selected readings:Nadifa Mohamed
The Fortune Men
The Orchard of Lost Souls
Black Mamba Boy
Others:
Bich Minh Nguyen on the Refugee Experience of Holiday Narratives (Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 2, Episode 7)
This Is Who We Are: Gish Jen and Peter Ho Davies on the Long History of Anti-Asian Racism in the US (Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 4, Episode 14)
#Families Belong Together: A Conversation with Edwidge Danticat and Cristina Henriquez (Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1, Episode 20)
Wayward Lives, Beautiful Experiments by Saidiya Hartman
The Mahabharata
Double Dynamite
Quo Vadis
The African Queen
Anger boils as UK Parliament endorses ‘obscene’ nationality bill (Al Jazeera, Dec. 10)
UK Parliament Business Legislation Parliamentary Bills Nationality and Borders Bill
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Dec 2, 2021 • 1h 14min
S5 Ep. 5: The Internet Giveth, the Internet Taketh Away: Pamela Paul and Cecilia Kang on What We’ve Lost and Gained (But Mostly Lost) in the Age of Social Media
Author and editor of the New York Times Book Review Pamela Paul and New York Times journalist Cecilia Kang join hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to consider how social media and search engines have changed everyday life. First, Paul provides a nostalgia tour of pre-internet life, and reads from her new book, 100 Things We’ve Lost to the Internet, a wake-up call to identify the elements that might be worth saving. Then Kang, who has covered Facebook for 15 years, analyzes the globally dominant company’s relentless focus on growth, and reads from her new book with co-reporter Sheera Frenkel, An Ugly Truth: Inside Facebook’s Battle for Domination. Kang also considers the impact of information shared by former Facebook employee and whistleblower Frances Haugen.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel, Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and our website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Hayden Baker.Selected readings:Pamela Paul
Rectangle Time
How to Raise a Reader
My Life with Bob: Flawed Heroine Keeps Book of Books
The Starter Marriage and the Future of Matrimony
Pornified
Parenting, Inc.
By the Book: Writers on Literature and the Literary Life
100 Things We’ve Lost to the Internet
Others:
Baby Einstein Videos
A Clockwork Orange
David Foster Wallace
Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon
The Good Wife
New York Times Book Review
Talk of the Town, “Spring Rain” by John Updike
Washington Post
Cecilia KangAn Ugly Truth: Inside Facebook’s Battle for DominationOthers:
“Whistle-Blower Says Facebook Chooses ‘Profits Over Safety,’” by Cecilia Kang and Ryan Mac
Buzzfeed
NPR
Times of London
McClatchy
Mark Zuckerberg
“It’s Time to Break Up Facebook” by Chris Hughes
Metaverse
Roblox
Sheera Frenkel
“Network Free K.C.: The Free Network Foundation Takes on Google in Kansas City” by Whitney Terrell
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Nov 18, 2021 • 46min
S5 Ep. 4: Live From the Miami Book Fair 2021: Joshua Ferris on the Great Recession, Writing About Capitalism, and A Calling for Charlie Barnes
In this special episode, taped live at the Miami Book Fair, novelist Joshua Ferris joins hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss his new novel, A Calling for Charlie Barnes, which takes an often humorous look at the catastrophe of its protagonist’s life. When Charlie Barnes is simultaneously hit with a cancer diagnosis and the Great Recession, all he wants is to live within another story. Ferris talks about the lies we tell ourselves and the fictionalized accounts of the past that plague and define families. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel, Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and our website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings:Joshua Ferris
A Calling for Charlie Barnes
The Dinner Party: Stories
To Rise Again at a Decent Hour
The Unnamed
Then We Came to the End
Others:
Always on Display: An Interview with Joshua Ferris
Interview with Joshua Ferris, 2008 PEN/Hemingway Award Winner
The Duke of Deception: Memories of My Father by Geoffrey Wolff
James B. Stewart, The New Yorker
Capital by John Lanchester
The Wall Street Journal
Barron’s
The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway
Investor’s Business Daily
Job Openings and Labor Turnover Summary - 2021 M09 Results
William Cohen
“The Great American Bubble Machine” by Matt Taibbi
Wallace Stevens
John Ashbery
Emily Dickinson
The Washington Post
Philip Roth
Meyerowitz Stories, written and directed by Noah Baumbach
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Nov 4, 2021 • 48min
S5 Ep. 3: Live From the Miami Book Fair 2021: Ha Jin on China, Taiwan, and A Song Everlasting
In this special episode, taped live at the Miami Book Fair, novelist Ha Jin joins hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss his new novel, A Song Everlasting, which explores the ways in which politics and art are intertwined from the point of view of a Chinese singer who makes his home in the U.S. After talking about the current tensions between China and Taiwan, Jin describes how the U.S. has had a negative influence on this conflict and depicts China as a strong but rapidly declining force. Then he speaks about how, like his main character, Tian, he believes that producing genuine art is the best way an artist can leave a lasting political influence. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel, Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and our website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Hayden Baker and Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings:Ha Jin
A Song Everlasting
The Banished Immortal
A Distant Center
The Boat Rocker
Alive
A Map of Betrayal
Nanjing Requiem
A Good Fall
The Writer as Migrant
A Free Life
War Trash
The Crazed
Wreckage
The Bridegroom
Waiting
In the Pond
Under the Red Flag
Facing Shadows
Ocean of Words
Between Silences
Others:
"Taiwan says tensions with China are at their worst in 4 decades" by Scott Neuman
W.H. Auden
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
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Oct 21, 2021 • 1h 7min
S5 Ep. 2: The Country Roads Ahead: Julia Elliott and DaMaris B. Hill Consider the Future of Rural Writing
Novelist Julia Elliott and poet and writer DaMaris B. Hill join hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to consider the writing and face of rural America—particularly as it might look 30 years from now. First, Elliott talks about growing up as an outsider in her own South Carolina hometown, and reads from her debut novel The New and Improved Romie Flutch. Then, Hill, who was born in West Virginia, speaks to the diversity of rural spaces and reads a historical poem, “Beloved Weirdo,” from her forthcoming poetry collection Breath Better Spent: Living Black Girlhood. Hill also speaks about judging the Maya Angelou Book Award.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel, Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and our website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Hayden Baker and Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings:DaMaris B. Hill
A Bound Woman Is a Dangerous Thing: The Incarceration of African American Women from Harriet Tubman to Sandra Bland
The Fluid Boundaries of Suffrage and Jim Crow: Staking Claims in the American Heartland
Breath Better Spent
Julia Elliott
The New and Improved Romie Futch
The Wilds
Others:
Toni Morrison
Gail Jones
Octavia Butler
Crystal Wilkinson
Nikki Finney
Denise Low
The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead
Gwendolyn Brooks
Frank O’Hara
Lucille Clifton
Angela Davis
“Talking to Maya Angelou’s Son About the New Award Named in Her Honor” by Anne Kniggendorf
Kontemporary Amerikan Poetry by John Murillo
Pilgrim Bell by Kaveh Akbar
Postcolonial Love Poem by Natalie Diaz
Sometimes I Never Suffered by Shane McCrae
The Wild Fox of Yemen by Threa Almontaser
Our Lies: Jenny Offill and James Plath on Conspiracy Theories in History and Literature (Season 4, Episode 8 of Fiction/Non/Fiction)
Airships by Barry Hannah
Geronimo Rex by Barry Hannah
Westworld
Paul West
“The New and Improved Romie Futch” New York Times review by Lincoln Michel
Carson McCullers
George Saunders
Winter’s Bone by Daniel Woodrell
Leonora Carrington
Meat Racket by Christopher Leonard
Hunter S. Thompson
David Cronenburg
Black Boy by Richard Wright
Langston Hughes
Alice Walker
Latino Writers Collective - Home
Frank X Walker - Affrilachian Poet, Educator, Author of Black Box, Buffalo Dance: the Journey of York, and Affrilachia
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Oct 7, 2021 • 1h 1min
S5 Ep. 1: WTF, Texas … Again?: Elizabeth Wetmore and Kathryn Nuernberger on SB8, the History of Abortion, and Roe v. Wade in Danger
Novelist Elizabeth Wetmore and essayist and poet Kathryn Nuernberger join hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss Texas’s new abortion law. As the Lone Star State’s SB8 invites anyone to sue those “abetting” an abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, Roe v. Wade has never seemed more at risk. In this episode, Wetmore talks about the Southwest’s history of suppressing women’s rights to birth control and reads from her novel, Valentine, which takes place in Texas and depicts a cast of women struggling to navigate the aftermath of sexual violence and access to abortion in 1976. Then, Nuernberger reads from her essay collection, The Witch of Eye, and her poetry collection, RUE; she discusses midwives, witch trials, herbalism, torture, and how these subjects help us interpret the history of women’s reproductive rights. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel, Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and our website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings:Elizabeth Wetmore
Valentine
"Women and Horses (1976)"
Kathryn Nuernberger
The Witch of Eye
RUE
Brief Interviews with the Romantic Past
The End of Pink
Rag & Bone
Others:
SB8
“Abortion on the border: Legislation in Texas and criminalization in Chihuahua” by Veronica Martinez (La Verdad) and Victoria Rossi (El Paso Matters)
"Abortion on the border: Activists stay resilient" by Veronica Martinez (La Verdad) and Victoria Rossi (El Paso Matters)
“What It's Like to Run a Planned Parenthood in Texas” by Olga Khazan (The Atlantic, 2016)
“Why I Violated Texas's Extreme Abortion Ban” by Alan Braid (The Washington Post)
Interventions for Women by Angela Hume
Eve's Herbs by John M. Riddle
The Book of Difficult Fruit by Kate Lebo
Regarding the Pain of Others by Susan Sontag
WTF, Texas? Lacy M. Johnson and Natalia Sylvester on Surviving the Recent Storm and Unraveling the Whitewashed Myth of Texas (Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 4, Episode 12)
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Sep 23, 2021 • 1h 22min
S4 Ep. 26: Bullshit Saviors: Helen Benedict and Nadia Hashimi on Depictions of the American Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq
Novelists Nadia Hashimi and Helen Benedict join hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the mistakes American writers and culture made in depicting the United States’ wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In the wake of the 20th anniversary of 9/11 and President Biden’s decision to pull U.S. troops out of Afghanistan, have American fiction and film truly confronted the cost of these wars, especially to civilians overseas? In this episode, Benedict discusses the persistent and problematic glamorization of conflict, and reads from her 2017 novel, Wolf Season, which is about the Iraq War and its aftermath. Then, Hashimi speaks about centering Afghan voices in her fiction and reads from her novel Sparks Like Stars, which begins in 1978 Kabul during the Saur Revolution.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel, Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and our website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings:Nadia Hashimi
Sparks Like Stars
The Pearl that Broke Its Shell
Helen Benedict
Wolf Season
Sand Queen
Lonely Soldier
“The Best Contemporary Iraqi Writing about War” (LitHub)
Others:
The Storytellers of Empire, By Kamila Shamsie – Guernica
Unbecoming by Anuradha Bhagwati
“A Former Marine Looks Back on Her Life in a Male-Dominated Military” by V.V. Ganeshananthan (New York Times)
Elliot Ackerman and Anuradha Bhagwati on the Role of the Military in American Politics, Fiction/Non/Fiction, season two, episode 21
Charlie Wilson’s War
Afghan Women are In Charge of Their Own Fate by Cheryl Benard
“The Other Afghan Women” by Anand Gopal (New Yorker)
“What Should a War Movie Do?” by Whitney Terrell (The New Republic)
The Hurt Locker directed by Kathryn Bigelow
Generation Kill by Evan Wright
Karate Kid
Matt Gallagher
Teen Wolf
Casualties of War directed by Brian De Palma
The Messenger
Frankenstein in Baghdad by Ahmed Saadawi
Goodbye to All That by Robert Graves and Miranda Seymour
Corpse Exhibition by Hassan Blasim
The Taliban indoctrinates kids with jihadist textbooks paid for by the U.S. Washington Post, 2014
Sylvester Stallone in First Blood (1982)
Katey Schultz
Jesse Goolsby
Cara Hoffman
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Sep 9, 2021 • 50min
S4 Ep. 25: Tolstoy Forever: Brigid Hughes and Yiyun Li on Retweeting a Russian Classic
Editor and publisher Brigid Hughes and writer Yiyun Li join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about reading War and Peace over the course of 85 days with others around the world. The unusually broad and lively Twitter conversation, organized in 2020 by A Public Space and led by Li, is captured in the newly published volume Tolstoy Together. In this episode, Li discusses her love of Russian novels and describes what it was like reading War and Peace in sections at the ends of newspapers when she was growing up in Beijing. Hughes, who read the book for the first time during this project, explains how the community of readers who contributed to the online book club made the experience special.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings:Yiyun Li
Tolstoy Together
Must I Go?
Where Reasons End
Dear Friend, from My Life I Write to You in Your Life
Gold Boy, Emerald Girl
A Thousand Years of Good Prayers
Kinder Than Solitude
The Vagrants
Brigid HughesA Public Space Others:
The Translation Wars (The New Yorker)
Her Private Space: On Brigid Hughes, Editor (LitHub)
Everything You’ve Ever Wanted to Know About Lit Mags (and Likely More) (FnF episode)
#APStogether : Events
Infinite Happiness (originally published in A Public Space, by Jamel Brinkley)
Cattle Haul (by Jesmyn Ward)
War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy, trans. Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky
The Raid and Other Stories by Leo Tolstoy
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy, trans. Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky
Matt Gallagher
Dewaine Farria
Alexandra Schwartz
ZZ Packer
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Aug 26, 2021 • 53min
S4 Ep. 24: Obama Era Redux: Nawaaz Ahmed on Islam, Sexuality, Politics, and Publishing His First Novel
Writer Nawaaz Ahmed joins co-host V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss his debut novel, Radiant Fugitives, in this special live episode of the show held with Elliott Bay Books in Seattle, Washington. Ahmed’s book, set in California against the backdrop of Obama-era politics, explores how differences in faith and sexuality affect an Indian Muslim family when two estranged sisters—one a doctor more religiously observant than their parents, the other a political organizer who is lapsed, queer, recently divorced, and newly pregnant—reunite to support their ill mother. Ahmed also discusses his career shift from computer science to fiction, his decision to identify as a gay writer, and how these changes have strengthened his position as an activist.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings: Nawaaz AhmedRadiant FugitivesOthers:
The Quran
Barack Obama Speeches
“Endymion” by John Keats, Complete Poems
“Yes We Can”
Trikone
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