

fiction/non/fiction
fiction/non/fiction
Hosted by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan, fiction/non/fiction interprets current events through the lens of literature, and features conversations with writers of all stripes, from novelists and poets to journalists and essayists.
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Apr 21, 2022 • 1h 4min
S5 Ep. 20: ‘A Spiritual-Industrial Complex’: SJ Sindu on Writing the Life of a Child God
Novelist SJ Sindu joins host V.V. Ganeshananthan live from the Tamil Worlds Initiative at the University of Toronto-Scarborough to discuss her new novel, Blue-Skinned Gods, and its protagonist, Kalki, a blue-skinned boy raised in an ashram as the tenth human incarnation of Vishnu. Sindu talks about depicting caste, gender, and heteronormative privilege within a rigid community; the destructive intersection of spirituality and capitalism; and how the age of digital misinformation has aided the Hindu right’s attempt to redefine South Asian history. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Hannah Ward. Selected readings for the episode: SJ Sindu
Dominant Genes
Blue-Skinned Gods
Marriage of a Thousand Lies
I Once Met You But You Were Dead
Others
Funny Boy by Shyam Selvadurai
Tamil Worlds Initiative at the University of Toronto-Scarborough
“Where Countries are Tinderboxes and Facebook is a Match,” New York Times, April 21, 2018
The Awakening by Kate Chopin
Marrying for a Future by Sidharthan Maunaguru
The marriages in-between - Himal Southasian A review of Sidharthan Maunaguru’s Marrying for a Future: Transnational Sri Lankan Tamil Marriages in the Shadow of War by V.V. Ganeshananthan | Jan 29, 2020
Garrard Conley and SJ Sindu on the Mainstreaming of Queer Identity, Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1, Episode 26
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Apr 14, 2022 • 47min
S5 Ep. 19: ‘The Danger is Larger Because the Voice is Bigger’: Alexandra Billings on What’s Behind the Surge in Anti-Trans Legislation
Award-winning actor and LGBTQ and HIV/AIDS activist Alexandra Billings joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the spate of recent anti-Trans bills and American misogyny. Billings reads from her new memoir, This Time for Me, and talks about her life as a Trans woman, her career as a teacher, and her experiences on the show Transparent.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf, Hayley Brown, Zoë Harper, America Fontenot, and Ross Whitehead.Selected readings for the episode: Alexandra Billings
This Time For Me
Transparent
Wicked
The Nap
Transparent
The Connors
How To Get Away With Murder
Others
Track Trans Legislation
The Phil Donahue Show
Vladimir Putin: J.K. Rowling and Russia Are Victims of Western “Cancel Culture”
Arizona governor signs bills limiting transgender rights, abortion
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Apr 7, 2022 • 47min
S5 Ep. 18: ‘Unlivable and Untenable’: Molly McGhee on the Punishing Life of Junior Publishing Employees
Fiction writer and former Tor assistant editor Molly McGhee joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss details of her recent resignation from a position she’d fought for in the industry she loves. She also talks about what’s behind #PublishingBurnout for junior employees and what that means for the future of publishing.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings for the episode:
Molly McGhee
https://twitter.com/mollymcghee/status/1502343597676548099
https://twitter.com/mollymcghee/status/1510959170585047053
The Paris Review - America's Dead Souls
Others:
When Will Publishing Stop Starving Its Young? - The New York Times
Editorial Resignations At Big Houses Spark Reckoning - Publishers Lunch
https://twitter.com/ZakiyaNJamal/status/1502386226367664130
Episode 147—Publishing's Great Resignation (Print Run podcast)
A Woman's Life in Publishing - JSTOR Daily
Where Is the Diversity in Publishing? The 2019 Diversity Baseline Survey Results | Lee & Low Blog
Women in The Gentleman's Career of Publishing | Princeton University Press
Literary Color Lines: On Inclusion in Publishing
https://twitter.com/bryonq/status/1502436599061258243
https://twitter.com/slipperyredhead/status/1495417527224176641
F/N/F Season 5 Episode 10: “How on Earth Do You Judge Books?” Susan Choi and Oscar Villalon on the Story Behind Literary Awards
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Mar 31, 2022 • 55min
S5 Ep. 17: ‘We’re There to Bear Witness’: Putsata Reang on Reporting in War Zones
Author and journalist Putsata Reang joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the dangers faced by foreign correspondents and local journalists during times of violent crisis. Reang talks about the dangers reporters are facing in Ukraine, recalls training journalists in Afghanistan, and reads from her forthcoming book Ma and Me: A Memoir. She also reflects on how her experiences in journalism connect to her history as a Cambodian refugee and her identity as a gay woman.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings for the episode:Putsata Reang
Ma and Me: A Memoir
Opinion | My Family Fled Cambodia as the Americans Evacuated. Here's What I Hope for Afghan Refugees.- POLITICO
At Sea, and Seeking a Safe Harbor - The New York Times
Full Circle: Two journalists return to their native countries to help other journalists express dissent — Oregon Humanities (with Kim Oanh Nguyen)
Others
When the War is Over: Cambodia And The Khmer Rouge Revolution by Elizabeth Becker
“Iraq War and News Media: A Look Inside the Death Toll” by Frank Smyth, Committee to Protect Journalists, March 18, 2013
"The Iraq War: The Heaviest Death Toll for the Media" Since World War II, March 2003 – August 2010 by Reporters Without Borders’ Middle East Desk, September 7, 2010 - Updated on January 20, 2016
“Ukrainian Family’s Dash for Safety Ends in Death” by Lynsey Addario and Andrew E. Kramer, The New York Times, March 7, 2022
“American veterans train Ukrainian volunteers in combat” CNN
Excerpt of interview with NYT's Lynsey Addario by Norah O'Donnell of CBS Evening News (via Twitter)
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Mar 24, 2022 • 54min
S5 Ep. 16: ‘One of the Worst Places on Earth’: Mansoor Adayfi on the 20th Anniversary of Guantánamo Bay Prison
Author and former Guantánamo detainee Mansoor Adayfi joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss his 14 years of systematic torture in the military prison. Adayfi reads from his memoir, Don’t Forget Us Here: Lost and Found at Guantánamo; recalls being ambushed, kidnapped, and sold to the U.S. by warlords; and explains the hunger strikes and protests he and other detainees participated in in defense of their lives and rights. Adayfi, who was ultimately found innocent and released, urges President Biden to work toward closing Guantánamo, which he describes as a place of lawlessness, oppression and injustice.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings for the episode:Mansoor Adayfi
Don’t Forget Us Here: Lost and Found at Guantánamo
"An Open Letter to President Biden About Guantánamo" by Mansoor Adayfi, et al., The New York Review of Books, Jan. 29, 2021
Opinion | In Our Prison on the Sea - The New York Times, Sept. 15, 2017
Others
Guantanamo Reports (Seton Hall University)
Guantánamo Bay Detention Camp | American Civil Liberties Union
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Mar 17, 2022 • 50min
S5 Ep. 15: ‘Forget What You Know About War’: Scott Anderson on What Russia’s Wars in Chechnya Tell Us About the Invasion of Ukraine
Veteran war correspondent Scott Anderson joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss his time reporting in Chechnya. Anderson compares the First and Second Chechen Wars to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. He also reads from his nonfiction book, The Man Who Tried to Save the World, and talks about how he overcame efforts to quash a magazine article he wrote that was critical of Putin, as well as why Chechnya’s conflict was scary enough to leave him with a streak of white hair. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings for the episode:
Scott Anderson
The Man Who Tried to Save the World
Midnight Hotel
Triage
The Four O’Clock Murders
Fractured Lands
The Quiet Americans
None Dare Call It a Conspiracy
Lawrence in Arabia
Others
A Constellation of Vital Phenomena by Anthony Marra
Raiders of the Lost Ark
“Death of the Tiger,” by Jon Lee Anderson, The New Yorker, Jan. 17, 2011.
No Innocents Abroad: Scott Anderson and Andrew Altschul on the CIA and U.S. Provocateurs in Foreign Politics, Fiction/Non/Fiction, Season 3, Episode 25
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Mar 10, 2022 • 40min
S5 Ep. 14: ‘They Didn’t Know Which Way to Go’: Katya Soldak Sheds Light on the Plight of the Ukrainian People
Katya Soldak, Forbes editorial director and documentary filmmaker, joins hosts Whitney Terrell and V. V. Ganeshananthan to discuss the evolving conflict between Ukraine and Russia. As Russian President Vladimir Putin continues his invasion of Ukraine, Soldak, who grew up in the country, shares insight into the bleak realities faced by citizens in cities like Kharkiv and Kherson, Russian misinformation, and the Ukrainian will to fight.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected readings:Katya Soldak
Monday, February 28. Russia’s War On Ukraine: News And Information From Ukraine
The Long Breakup (Vimeo)
Others:'I Screwed Up': Sean Spicer Says He Regrets Comments on Inauguration Crowd Size and Hitler Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 3, 2022 • 45min
S5 Ep. 13: Censoring the American Canon: Farah Jasmine Griffin on Book Bans Targeting Black Writers
Acclaimed writer and professor Farah Jasmine Griffin joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to talk about why book bans so often target the power of Black literature. Griffin discusses the censorship of Black authors like Toni Morrison as well as communities’ efforts to preserve and share Black stories when schools won’t. Author of Read Until You Understand: The Profound Wisdom of Black Life and Literature, Griffin discusses how her own exposure to Black authors like Morrison and James Baldwin came largely from her own father, outside of the classroom. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Farah Jasmine Griffin
Read Until You Understand: The Profound Wisdom of Black Life and Literature
“Banning Toni Morrison’s books doesn’t protect kids. It just sanitizes racism.” | The Washington Post
Who Set You Flowin?: The African American Migration Narrative
Others:
The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison
“Missouri school district bans Toni Morrison’s ‘The Bluest Eye’” | Today
Ralph Ellison
“The Little Man at Chehaw Station” and “The Novel as a Function of American Democracy” by Ralph Ellison from Going to the Territory
Beloved by Toni Morrison
Toni Morrison
James Baldwin
If Beale Street Could Talk by James Baldwin
The 1619 Project
Nikole Hannah-Jones
Adam Serwer on Critical Race Theory and the Very American Fear of Owning Up to Our Racist Past and Present Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 4, Episode 20
Angela Davis
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Feb 24, 2022 • 58min
S5 Ep. 12: Intimate Contact: Garth Greenwell on Book Bans and Writing About Sex
Acclaimed novelist Garth Greenwell joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to talk about book banning, writing about sex, and the different (and often coded) reasons people talk about limits to reading. A former high school teacher, Greenwell discusses the ideological roots of book bans targeting Black and LGBTQIA+ writers and describes how books like Giovanni’s Room gave him hope and inspiration as an isolated queer teenager in the South. Finally, he talks about the need for generosity and patience in this debate and why we should all be willing to have hard conversations about what is, and is not, appropriate reading material for students.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Garth Greenwell
Kink, edited with R.O. Kwon
Cleanness
What Belongs to You
Others:
The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison
All Boys Aren’t Blue by George Matthew Johnson
Two Boys Kissing by David Levithan
In the Dream House by Carmen Maria Machado
'Banning My Book Won’t Protect Your Child,' by Carmen Maria Machado, The New York Times
Carmen Maria Machado
Edinburgh by Alexander Chee
Another Country by James Baldwin
Giovanni’s Room by James Baldwin
Just Above My Head by James Baldwin
Anonymous Sex eds. Hillary Jordan and Cheryl Lu-Lien Tan
Detransition, Baby by Torrey Peters
Skinned Alive by Edmund White
Edmund White and Emily Temple on Literary Feuds, Social Media, and Our Appetite for Drama Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 2, Episode 4
R.O. Kwon and Paul Harding Talk God and Faith in American Fiction Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 2, Episode 9
A Streetcar Named Desire dir. Elia Kazan
Judy Blume: 'I thought, this is America: we don't ban books. But then we did' Children and teenagers, The Guardian
Brontez Purnell
Ocean Vuong
“Why book banning is back” | Vox
“A Texas lawmaker is targeting 850 books that he says could make students feel uneasy” | NPR
Cleanness | Work in Progress Garth Greenwell & Mitzi Angel on Writing About Sex
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Feb 17, 2022 • 43min
S5 Ep. 11: 'The Award is the Book: Randall Mann on Poetry Awards, Contests, and Diversity'
Poet Randall Mann, a winner of the Kenyon Review Prize in Poetry, joins Fiction/Non/Fiction podcast co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to continue last week’s conversation about the significance of literary awards. Mann talks about how poets use prizes to seek publication, the increasingly diverse winners, and why he loves frank: sonnets, by Diane Seuss. He also reads the poem “Beginning & Ending with a Line by Michelle Boisseau,” from his most recent collection, A Better Life.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Randall Mann● "Beginning & Ending with a Line by Michelle Boisseau"● A Better Life● Complaint in the Garden● Breakfast with Thom Gunn● Straight Razor● The Illusion of Intimacy: On PoetryOthers:● “How on Earth Do You Judge Books?” Susan Choi and Oscar Villalon on the Story Behind Literary Awards ‹ Literary Hub (Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 5, Episode 10)● Announcing the 2022 PEN America Literary Awards Finalists● Announcing the Finalists for the National Book Critics Circle Awards● Yellow Rain: Poems by Mai Der Vang● Sho by Douglas Kearney● Heard-Hoard by Atsuro Riley● frank: sonnets by Diane Seuss● Mutiny by Phillip B Williams● Ceive by B.K. Fisher● The Renunciations by Donika Kelly● Cutlish by Rajiv Mohabir● The Rinehart Frames by Cheswayo Mphanza● "Among the Gorgons" by Michelle Boisseau● Poet wins first Maya Angelou Book Award from MU, other Missouri schools Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


