

fiction/non/fiction
fiction/non/fiction
Hosted by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan, fiction/non/fiction interprets current events through the lens of literature, and features conversations with writers of all stripes, from novelists and poets to journalists and essayists.
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Mar 27, 2025 • 45min
S8 Ep. 26: Alex Higley on True Failure and Shark Tank
In this engaging conversation, novelist Alex Higley, author of True Failure, delves into the absurdities of modern capitalism through the lens of his protagonist's misguided ambition to impress on a Shark Tank-style show. He explores the emotional refuge of lying, especially in today's political climate, while critiquing the myth of individual success. Higley’s insights on authenticity in reality TV reflect larger societal issues, making this a thought-provoking discussion on truth, deception, and the pressures of visibility.

Mar 20, 2025 • 42min
S8 Ep. 25: Edmund White on The Loves of My Life
Novelist, memoirist and biographer Edmund White joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about his recent book, The Loves of My Life: A Sex Memoir. White talks about the changes he has witnessed the LGBTQ+ community go through over the years and the hostility the transgender population faces under the Trump-Vance regime. He discusses a general concern older members of the community have about losing Social Security and health coverage should gay marriage become Trump’s next target, as well as this administration's attempt to erase queer language from governmental archives. White previews his forthcoming novel about Louis XIV’s gay brother titled Monsieur and reads from The Loves of My Life.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by V.V. Ganeshananthan, Whitney Terrell, Ian Johnson, Hunter Murray, and Vanessa Watkins. Selected Readings:Edmund White
The Loves of My Life (2025)
The Humble Lover (2025)
Nocturnes for the King of Naples (2024)
A Previous Life (2023)
A Saint from Texas (2022)
The Unpunished Vice (2018)
The Flaneur (2015)
Inside a Pearl (2015)
Jack Holmes & His Friend (2012)
City Boy (2010)
A Boy Story (2009)
Marcel Proust - A Life (2009)
Anthologies, Foreword & Others:
The Passion of Gengoroh Tagame (2022)
A Luminous Republic (2020)
The Stonewall Reader (2019)
Such Small Hands (2017)
The Violet Quill Club, 40 Years On - The Gay & Lesbian Review by David Bergman, January-February 2021
Felice Picano, Champion of Gay Literature, Is Dead at 81 - The New York Times
Edmund White and Emily Temple on Literary Feuds, Social Media, and Our Appetite for Drama Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 2, Episode 4
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Mar 13, 2025 • 48min
S8 Ep. 24: Curtis Sittenfeld on Show Don’t Tell
Bestselling fiction writer Curtis Sittenfeld joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about her new collection of stories, Show Don’t Tell. Sittenfeld discusses the title story, which depicts graduate students in creative writing competing for funding, and its connections to her time at the Iowa Writers’ Workshop, when that practice was common. She also considers how President Trump’s attacks on DEI reveal some people’s true natures, and what it means to write about “the hypocrisy of being a person.” Finally, she explains why she thinks of time as a plot twist, and reflects on returning to the protagonist of her debut novel, Prep, Lee Fiora, who reappears in the new collection’s final story, which features her thirtieth high school reunion. Sittenfeld reads from Show Don’t Tell.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.Selected Readings:Curtis Sittenfeld
Show Don’t Tell (2025)
Romantic Comedy (2023)
Rodham (2021)
The Best American Short Stories 2020 (ed. with Heidi Pitlor)
You Think It, I’ll Say It (2019)
Eligible (2016)
Sisterland (2013)
American Wife (2008)
The Man of My Dreams (2006)
Prep (2005)
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Mar 6, 2025 • 48min
S8 Ep. 23: Karen Weingarten/Abortion Stories Before Roe v. Wade
Professor Karen Weingarten joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about a new anthology she has edited, Abortion Stories: American Literature Before Roe v. Wade. Weingarten reflects on the complicated history of abortion, the varied use of abortifacients, abortion’s ties to eugenics and state control of bodies, and the rise of the anti-abortion movement. She discusses how access to abortion facilitates other kinds of resistance, and explains how the book came to include authors like Maria Sybilla Merian, Langston Hughes, Dorothy Parker, Lucille Clifton, and Eugene O’Neill alongside oral histories from formerly enslaved persons and groundbreaking politicians like Shirley Chisholm. She talks about the stories she hopes to see represented in post-Dobbs writing and reads from her foreword to the anthology.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.Selected Readings:Karen Weingarten
Abortion Stories: American Literature Before Roe v. Wade
Pregnancy Test
Abortion in the American Imagination: Before Life and Choice, 1880-1940
Others
Dirty Dancing
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
The Cider House Rules
The Mothers
The Art of Subtext
Jessica Valenti
Abortion: Our Bodies, Their Lies, and the Truths We Use to Win
Peyton Place
Men Without Women by Ernest Hemingway (which includes “Hills Like White Elephants”
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Feb 27, 2025 • 51min
S8 Ep. 22: Novelists Suzette Mayr and Kai Thomas on Canada Versus Trump
Canadian authors Suzette Mayr and Kai Thomas join co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the repercussions of President Trump’s recent threats to annex and tax Canada. They talk about the possible empowerment of the Canadian right as a result of Trump’s extreme remarks, as well as measures their communities are taking to unify in the current political environment. Mayr and Thomas read from their recent novels, The Sleeping Car Porter and In the Upper Country. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.Selected Readings:Suzette Mayr
The Sleeping Car Porter
Dr. Edith Vane and the Hares of Crawley Hall
Monoceros
Venous Hum
The Windows
Moon Honey
Kai ThomasIn the Upper CountryOthers:
2025 4 Nations Face Off | NHL.com | NHL
Justin Trudeau's speech in response to Trump's tariffs | CBC News
The Last Black Town in the West |The Daily Yonder
Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters | Library of Congress
There's only one winner in a trade war... | This Hour Has 22 Minutes (YouTube)
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Feb 20, 2025 • 46min
S8 Ep. 21: Nicholas Fandos on New York Politics, Eric Adams, and Trump
New York Times reporter Nicholas Fandos, author of a recent article titled “An Emboldened Trump Seeks to Bend New York City to His Will,” joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about why President Trump wants to dismiss corruption charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams. Officials in Trump’s Department of Justice say they want Adams to be free to aid Trump’s immigration crackdown in the Big Apple, which since 2014 has been a sanctuary city. But conservative federal prosecutors like Danielle Sassoon and Hagen Scotten say this amounts to a quid pro quo and have resigned rather than drop the case against Adams. Fandos reflects on what might happen next and the larger implications for the Department of Justice.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.Selected Readings:Nicholas Fandos
An Emboldened Trump Seeks to Bend New York City to His Will
Eric Adams Discussed Possible Republican Primary Run with G.O.P. Leader
Jeffries Works With N.Y. Democrats to Weaken G.O.P. Control of the House
Others:
Who Is Danielle Sassoon, the Prosecutor Who Quit Over Eric Adams’s Corruption Case? | New York Times
Danielle Sassoon’s Letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi, Annotated | New York Times
Here Are the Charges Eric Adams Faces, Annotated | New York Times | September 26, 2024
Read the Resignation Letter From Hagan Scotten | New York Times
Read The Letter From Emil Bove Accepting Danielle Sassoon’s Resignation, Annotated | New York Times
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Feb 13, 2025 • 46min
S8 Ep. 20: Journalists Michael Scherer and Ashley Parker on Trump and his Tech Oligarchs.
New Atlantic staff writers Ashley Parker and Michael Scherer, authors of a recent article called “The Tech Oligarchy Arrives,” join host Whitney Terrell to talk about tech oligarchs’ influence over President Trump’s administration. They discuss the significance of prominent billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos attending Trump’s inauguration as visible supporters, how these tech leaders have changed their opinion of Trump over time, and the regulatory and legal benefits they may gain from their close association with the new administration. They also discuss Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency and the fallout from that group’s efforts to access Treasury data and dismantle USAID.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.Selected Readings:Ashley Parker & Michael Scherer
The Tech Oligarchy Arrives |The Atlantic |January 20, 2025
Trump Advisers Stopped Musk From Hiring a Noncitizen at DOGE |The Atlantic |February 4, 2025
Trump Takes Over the Kennedy Center |The Atlantic | February 7, 2025
Trump’s Conquest of the Kennedy Center Is Accelerating |The Atlantic | February 8, 2025
Ashley Parker
The Memo That Shocked the White House |The Atlantic | January 29, 2025Michael Scherer
Why Meta Is Paying $25 Million to Settle a Trump Lawsuit |The Atlantic | January 29, 2025Others:
DOGE task force gains access to U.S. Treasury Department data, payment systems |CBS News |February 3, 2025
Doge v USAid: how Elon Musk helped his acolytes infiltrate world’s biggest aid agency |The Guardian |February 5, 2025
Ending Illegal Discrimination And Restoring Merit-Based Opportunity – The White House |The White House |January 21, 2025
Meta Goes Full MAGA as it Kills Off DEI Programs |Daily Beast|January 10, 2025
The Tech Oligarchy Arrives |The Atlantic |January 20, 2025
Trump, a populist president, is flanked by tech billionaires at his inauguration | AP News | January 20, 2025
Zuckerberg Turns Facebook Full MAGA and Smears California Staff
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Feb 6, 2025 • 47min
S8 Ep. 19: Thomas Dai on Mapping, Naming, Borders, and Immigration
Essayist Thomas Dai joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss his new collection, Take My Name But Say It Slow, in which he writes about place and identity. Dai talks about the imperialist impulse behind Trump’s attempt to turn the Gulf of Mexico into the “Gulf of America,” the power of naming, and the appeal and uncertainty of mapping. He also reflects on the surprising history of border policing, queer cartographies, and the sometimes paradoxical relationship between inner self and physical space. Dai reads from Take My Name But Say It Slow. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.Selected Readings:Thomas DaiTake My Name But Say It SlowOthers
National Archives, The Chinese Exclusion Act
“Queering the Map”
Thomas Pynchon, Mason & Dixon
Peter Ho Davies, The Fortunes
“Think There’s Nothing You Can Do to Stop ICE? Think Again.” | The Nation
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Jan 30, 2025 • 49min
S8 Ep. 18: Lan Samantha Chang on the Risks and Rewards of Literary Personas
Acclaimed novelist and Director of the Iowa Writers’ Workshop Lan Samantha Chang joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the role that literary personas may–or may not–have played in recent revelations about Alice Munro, Neil Gaiman, and Cormac McCarthy. Chang discusses how writers often develop literary personas as their public profiles grow. Chang also discusses how personas can be both protective and damaging when they no longer align with the writer's true self, the impact of personas on writers' privacy and the industry's role in shaping and maintaining these personas. She reads from her novel All is Forgotten, Nothing is Lost.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.Selected Readings:Lan Samantha Chang
The Family Chao
Hunger
Inheritance
All is Forgotten, Nothing is Lost
Writers, Protect Your Inner Life |Lit Hub|August 7, 2017
Others:
A Moveable Feast, Ernest Hemingway
Erasure, Percival Everett
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6 Episode 40: “In Memory of Cormac McCarthy: Oscar Villalon on an Iconic Writer’s Life, Work, and Legacy”
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 7 Episode 19: “Jacinda Townsend and James Bernard Short on American Fiction”
James Alan McPherson
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 7 Episode 35: “Jonny Diamond on His Mother and Alice Munro”
The Dark Secrets Behind the Neil Gaiman Abuse Accusations|Vulture | January 13, 2025
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Jan 23, 2025 • 46min
S8 Ep. 17: Sarah S. Grossman on the Los Angeles Wildfires
Novelist and former Huffington Post climate reporter Sarah S. Grossman joins Fiction/Non/Fiction co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to talk about the Los Angeles wildfires. Grossman, who lives in Los Angeles and whose 2024 novel A Fire So Wild centers on a wildfire in Northern California, discusses how communities are coming together to support each other in the wake of the devastation. She reflects on the damage to the historically Black neighborhood of Altadena; the fact that people are differently affected by climate change, even as wealth cannot completely shield anyone; the factors that contributed to the wildfires; and what it is like to prepare to evacuate, or, alternatively, to offer shelter to others. Grossman reads from A Fire So Wild.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.Selected Readings:Sarah S. Grossman
A Fire So Wild
The Antidote To Climate Dread | HuffPost Impact | The Huffington Post | Aug 25, 2021
More Americans Than Ever Understand Climate Change Is Real And Harmful | HuffPost Impact | The Huffington Post | Nov 18, 2021
Nearly 30% Of Americans Aren't Worried 'At All' About The Deadly Climate Crisis | The Huffington Post | April 19, 2022
Others:
What happened on Friday, Jan. 17 Crews improved containment of the fires; some residents allowed to return | Los Angeles Times
L.A. fires upend hard-won stability for the area’s homeless population | The Washington Post
Mutual Aid LA Network (@mutualaidla) • Instagram
Displaced Black Families GoFundMe Directory
Safe Place for Youth
How Wildfires Came for City Streets | The New York Times
Over 170,000 People Under Evacuation In LA County Wildfires | Inkl
New wildfire concerns in Los Angeles: Strong winds could return next week. | USA Today Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices