

fiction/non/fiction
fiction/non/fiction
Hosted by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan, fiction/non/fiction interprets current events through the lens of literature, and features conversations with writers of all stripes, from novelists and poets to journalists and essayists.
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Mar 23, 2023 • 45min
S6 Ep. 25: Alone on the Range: Victor LaValle on Lone Women’s Homesteaders, History, and Horror
Fiction writer Victor LaValle joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss his new novel Lone Women, which tells the suspenseful story of Adelaide Henry, a Black woman with a mysterious trunk who heads from California to Montana to become a solo homesteader in 1915. LaValle talks about the inspiration for the novel’s incendiary opening, how the story merges horror and history, and Adelaide’s unconventional baggage. He also reflects on the tradition of lone women homesteaders, considers the eclectic cast of characters that Adelaide meets, and reads an excerpt of the novel. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This episode of the podcast was produced by Rachel Layton and Anne Kniggendorf.Victor LaValle
The Changeling
The Ballad of Black Tom
Eve
Big Machine
The Devil in Silver
Others:
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 3 Episode 3: “Creepy Stories (and More) from Victor LaValle and Benjamin Percy”
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1 Episode 15: “Emily Raboteau and Omar El Akkad Tell a Different Kind of Climate Change Story”
Letters of a Woman Homesteader by Elinore Pruitt Stewart
Montana Women Homesteaders: A Field of One’s Own by Sarah Carter
The Tenant of Wildfell Hall by Anne Bronte
Long Hidden: Speculative Fiction from the Margins of History edited by Rose Fox and Daniel José Older
Mattie T. Cramer
The Bear Paw Mountaineer
The Color Purple (film)
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Mar 16, 2023 • 39min
S6 Ep. 24: Iraq 20 Years After the U.S. Invasion: Ghaith Abdul-Ahad on Iraqi Perspectives on the War and What Western Media Missed
Prize-winning Iraqi journalist Ghaith Abdul-Ahad joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss his new book A Stranger in Your Own City, which features Iraqi perspectives on the United States’ invasion and occupation of Iraq. Abdul-Ahad talks about what Western media missed and also considers the early stages of the war and how resentment built over time. He reflects on the fall of Saddam Hussein, the ensuing Iraqi civil conflict, Western misconceptions of the country, and how the U.S. occupation planted the seeds of the Islamic State. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This episode of the podcast was produced by Ryan Reed.Selected readings:Ghath Abdul-Ahad
A Stranger in Your Own City: Travels in the Middle East’s Long War
Unembedded: Four Photojournalists on the Iraq War
“Baghdad Memories: what the first months of U.S. occupation felt like to an Iraqi” The Guardian
The Battle for Syria, FRONTLINE (documentary)
Others
Hans Fallada
“Bullshit Saviors: Helen Benedict and Nadia Hashimi on Depictions of the American Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq,” Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 4, Episode 26
“The Legacy of ISIS: Dunya Mikhail on Yazidi Women Captives in Iraq,” Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6, Episode 12
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Mar 9, 2023 • 45min
S6 Ep. 23: Letters to a Writer of Color: Deepa Anappara and Taymour Soomro on Finding Community With Each Other
Fiction writers Deepa Anappara and Taymour Soomro join co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the newly published essay collection Letters to a Writer of Color, which they co-edited. The book features 17 pieces by authors of color from all over the world reflecting on aspects of craft and the writing life. Anappara and Soomro talk about how experiences in their MFA program led them to collaborate on the book. Contributors include Kiese Laymon on the second person, Ingrid Rojas Contreras on trauma, Myriam Gurba on art and activism, Sharlene Teo on reception and resilience, Amitava Kumar on authenticity, Mohammed Hanif on political fiction, and Femi Kayode on crime fiction. Soomro reads from his essay about origin stories and Anappara reads from her essay on the ideal conditions for writing. They also discuss other themes in the book: isolation in the writing world, non-Western storytelling, questions of translation, ongoing violence against people of color, and literature as a mode of social education. To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This episode of the podcast was produced by Amanda Trout and Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:
Letters to a Writer of Color, co-edited by Deepa Anappara and Taymour Soomro
Deepa Anappara
Djinn Patrol on the Purple Line
Journalism
Short Fiction
Taymour Soomro
Other Names for Love
“Philosophy of the Foot” in The New Yorker
Essays and stories
Others
Ninth Letter
The Southern Review
Eleanor Ferrante
Monica Ali
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 5 Episode 35: The Fall of Boris Johnson: Margot Livesey on British Politics, the Brexit Blunder, and the Prime Minister’s Lies
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
Madeleine Thien
Amitava Kumar
Tahmima Anam
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 5 Episode 6: Nadifa Mohamed on Writing the Convoluted Terrains of Immigration
Leila Aboulela
Graham Greene
Flannery O’Connor
Myriam Gurba
American Dirt by Jeanine Cummins
“On ‘Oprah’s Book Club,’ ‘American Dirt’ Author Faces Criticism” by Concepción de León - New York Times (2020) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 2, 2023 • 46min
S6 Ep. 22: More to Say: Ann Beattie on Her New Collection of Essays, Donald Barthelme, and the Chinese Spy Balloon
Acclaimed fiction writer Ann Beattie joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss her recent LitHub essay about Donald Barthelme’s short story “The Balloon” and the Chinese spy balloon. She also talks about her recently published first collection of essays, More to Say: Essays and Appreciations, in which she writes about the work of authors, photographers, and artists she admires, including Elmore Leonard, Sally Mann, John Loengard, and her own husband, visual artist Lincoln Perry. Beattie explains why as a nonfiction writer, she prefers close looking and reading; considers defamiliarization in the hands of Barthelme and Alice Munro; analyzes former visual artist John Updike’s depiction of the natural world; and reflects on developing increased comfort with writing about visual art. She also reads excerpts from both her LitHub piece and the essay collection.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Ann Beattie
More to Say (Moon Palace Books)
More to Say (Godine)
The State We’re In (Moon Palace Books)
“Richard Rew's Sculpture,” by Ann Beattie | The New Yorker
“John Updike’s Sense of Wonder,” by Ann Beattie
“Ann Beattie Wonders What Donald Barthelme Would Have Made of the Spy Balloon” | Literary Hub
Others:
“The Balloon,” by Donald Barthelme | The New Yorker
“On Not Knowing,” Not-Knowing, by Donald Barthelme
“Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Loveship, Marriage,” by Alice Munro
“Couples,” by John Updike
“Spring Rain,” by John Updike | The New Yorker
“As I See It,” by John Loengard (ThriftBooks)
“The Runaways,” by Elizabeth Spencer | Narrative
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Feb 23, 2023 • 55min
S6 Ep. 21: Kingdom Quarterback: Mark Dent and Rustin Dodd on Race, Kansas City Football, and Super Bowl MVP Patrick Mahomes
Following a gutsy, thrilling 2023 Super Bowl win by the Kansas City Chiefs, sportswriters Mark Dent and Rustin Dodd join co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss their forthcoming book Kingdom Quarterback: Patrick Mahomes, the Kansas City Chiefs, and How a Once Swingin' Cow Town Chased the Ultimate Comeback. Dent and Dodd map out the relationship between race and football in Kansas City from the Chiefs’ move to the city in the early 1960s to the activism and engagement of players like Mahomes in the Black Lives Matter era.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Mark Dent and Rustin Dodd
Kingdom Quarterback: Patrick Mahomes, the Kansas City Chiefs, and How a Once Swingin' Cow Town Chased the Ultimate Comeback
Opinion: “The Chiefs proudly broke racial barriers. Kansas City erected them.” by Mark Dent
“How Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes authored his greatest comeback in Super Bowl LVII,” by Rustin Dodd
Others:
America's Game: The Epic Story Of How Pro Football Captured A Nation by Michael MacCambridge
Kansas City (as 'K.C. Loving') written by Leiber and Stoller, recorded by Little Willie Littlefield (1953)
The history behind J.C. Nichols’ development, restrictive covenants in Kansas City
The King of Kings County by Whitney Terrell
Race, Real Estate, and Uneven Development by Kevin Fox Gotham
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Feb 16, 2023 • 48min
S6 Ep. 20: Remembering an American Writer: Anthony Walton on James Alan McPherson’s Essays and Legacy
James Alan McPherson is famous as the first Black writer to win the Pulitzer Prize in fiction; a new book aims to bring fresh attention to his masterful nonfiction. The volume’s editor, poet and writer Anthony Walton, joins V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss On Becoming an American Writer, a collection of McPherson’s essays. Walton explains McPherson’s moral vision for the U.S. and how this shaped the book’s curation. He highlights how the theme of ancestors connects various pieces, notes the impact of McPherson’s legal training on his writing, reflects on McPherson’s take on the middle class, and considers how McPherson’s work speaks to society today. He also reads from the book’s first essay, “Junior and John Doe.”To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Anthony Walton
On Becoming an American Writer (ed.)
Mississippi: An American Journey
Brothers in Arms (with Kareem Abdul-Jabar)
Cricket Weather
Others:
The Family Chao by Lan Samantha Chang
“Trump Criticized for Dining with Far-Right Activist Nick Fuentes and Rapper Ye,” – The Washington Post
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6 Episode 11: The Best and Worst Dinner Parties in Literature: Mar-a-Lago Edition, Featuring Michael Knight
Clarence Thomas
Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
Shadow and Act by Ralph Ellison
Going to the Territory by Ralph Ellison
Hue and Cry by James Alan McPherson
Crabcakes by James Alan McPherson
Elbow Room by James Alan McPherson
“On Becoming an American Writer,” by James Alan McPherson (essay)
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Feb 9, 2023 • 49min
S6 Ep. 19: The Lives of the Wives: Carmela Ciuraru on Marriage, Writing, and Equity
Literary critic Carmela Ciuraru joins V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss her new book The Lives of the Wives, which looks at five literary marriages, including pairings like Elizabeth Jane Howard and Kingsley Amis. She examines the dynamics of such relationships, particularly when one partner declares their time more valuable. She explains why the stories of historic couples like Una Troubridge and Radclyffe Hall remain relevant today, and highlights the experiences of lesser-known partners, some of whom were artists and writers themselves. She also reads an excerpt about the early days of Patricia Neal and Roald Dahl’s courtship.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Carmela Ciuraru
The Lives of the Wives
Nom de Plume
First Loves
Beat Poets
Others:
The Dud Avocado by Elaine Dundy
As I Am by Patricia Neal
Women and Writing by Virginia Woolf
Killing the Angel in the House by Virginia Woolf
Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf by Edward Albee
Truth and Beauty by Ann Patchett
On Beauty by Zadie Smith
Radclyffe Hall and Una Vincenzo: An Inventory of their papers at the Harry Ransom Center
The Wife by Meg Wolitzer
The Year of Magical Thinking by Joan Didion
A Widow’s Story by Joyce Carol Oates
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Feb 2, 2023 • 44min
S6 Ep. 18: This Other Eden: Paul Harding on Imagining Our Integrated Past
Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Paul Harding joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the history of an integrated community in Maine and how it inspired his new novel, This Other Eden. Harding talks about where he drew the line in his research; his ekphrastic habits; the ever-present human tendency to create “Others”; and what it means to say “never again” in the face of injustice that repeats itself. He also reads from the novel.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Paul Harding
This Other Eden
Enon
Tinkers
Others:
Charles Ethan Porter
Malaga Island - Bowdoin University
Maine evicts residents of Malaga Island - Maine Coast Heritage Trust
Maine School for the Feeble Minded - Pineland Farms
First International Congress for Eugenics in London
The Autobiography of an Ex-Colored Man, by James Weldon Johnson
Karl Barth
Confessing Church
William Shakespeare
Macbeth
The Tempest
Old Testament
Darwin and the theory of Eugenics
“Understanding and Ameliorating Medical Mistrust Among Black Americans” - The Commonwealth Fund
Sturgis Motorcycle Rally COVID-19 Superspreader Event - National Health Institute
Artificial Intelligence
Race Bias in AI and other science/tech
The Cornerstone Speech
Walt Whitman
Maine apologizes for Malaga Island - Press Herald
Moby Dick, Herman Melville
Henry James
Review: Racism tears a Maine fishing community apart in 'This Other Eden' - NPR
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1 Episode 9: Can I Get A Witness: God and Faith in American Fiction
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6 Episode 17: Chatbot vs. Writer: Vauhini Vara on the Perils and Possibilities of Artificial Intelligence
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Jan 26, 2023 • 47min
S6 Ep. 17: Chatbot vs. Writer: Vauhini Vara on the Perils and Possibilities of Artificial Intelligence
Novelist and journalist Vauhini Vara joins V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss how ChatGPT, the artificial intelligence chatbot developed by OpenAI, may—or may not—impact publishing, education, journalism, and the humanities in general. Vara explains differences between ChatGPT and another OpenAI tool, GPT-3, which she used as a way into writing about the death of her sister, a topic she had previously found unapproachable. She reads from the resulting essay, “Ghosts,” which was published by The Believer and anthologized in Best American Essays 2022.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Vauhini Vara
The Immortal King Rao
Ghosts
Others:
Review: ‘The Immortal King Rao,’ by Vauhini Vara - The New York Times
Meet GPT-3. It Has Learned to Code (and Blog and Argue). - The New York Times
Is This the Start of an AI Takeover? - The Atlantic
AI Has Come to Save the Arts from Themselves - The Washington Post
AI Reveals the Most Human Parts of Writing | WIRED
Don’t Ban ChatGPT in Schools. Teach With It. - The New York Times
Microsoft Bets Big on the Creator of ChatGPT in Race to Dominate A.I. - The New York Times
ChatGPT: Optimizing Language Models for Dialogue
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6 episode 16: In Memory of Russell Banks: Rick Moody on an Iconic Writer’s Life, Work and Legacy
W.B. Yeats’ Autoscript
‘Even the spirits get a say’: A Look Into James Merrill's Ouija Poems by Harriet Staff
Exquisite Corpse poetry
Will Artificial Intelligence Kill College Writing? Online programs can churn out decent papers on the cheap. What now? – The Chronicle of Higher Education
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 3 Episode 25: No Innocents Abroad: Scott Anderson and Andrew Altschul on the CIA and US Provocateurs in Foreign Politics
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Jan 19, 2023 • 48min
S6 Ep. 16: In Memory of Russell Banks: Rick Moody on an Iconic Writer’s Life, Work and Legacy
Writer Rick Moody joins V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to celebrate the life and legacy of the late novelist Russell Banks, who died earlier this month. Moody and Terrell, who were previously Banks’s students and became his friends, reflect on his deep working-class roots, his cultivation of his own voice even in his more experimental writing, and his commitment to writing about race in the United States. Moody reads and discusses a passage from Banks’s 1985 novel Continental Drift.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net.This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.Selected Readings:Rick Moody
Garden State
Ice Storm
Hotels of North America
The Black Veil: A Memoir with Digressions
The Long Accomplishment
Russell Banks
Hamilton Stark
The Relation of My Imprisonment
The Sweet Hereafter
Continental Drift
Affliction
The Darling
“Who Will Tell the People? On waiting, still, for the great Creole-American novel,” by Russell Banks, from Harper’s Magazine, June 2000
Others:
Russell Banks, The Art of Fiction No. 152 (The Paris Review)
LISTEN: Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 3 Episode 23: Kaitlyn Greenidge and Russell Banks: On the Past and Present of Protest and White Backlash ‹ Literary Hub
WATCH: Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 3 Episode 23: Kaitlyn Greenidge and Russell Banks on the Past and Present of Protest
Flannery O’Connor
Eudora Welty
John Cheever
J.D. Salinger
Clarence Major
Jonathan Baumbach
James Alan McPherson
Ernest Hemingway
Bobbie Ann Mason
Richard Ford
Daniel Woodrell
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