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Sean Delaney
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Oct 12, 2020 • 48min
Podcast 406, Drama and Theatre in Education (12-10-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
On this week's podcast I discuss drama and theatre in education with Madeline Michel, a teacher in Monticello High School in Charlottesville Virginia. Madeline was the 2019 winner of the Tony award for excellence in theatre education. Among the topics we discuss in the course of the podcast are the following:
How she approaches theatre education
How a sports –competitive – paradigm is mistakenly applied to the arts
Theatre in education versus drama in education
How she tried to make her class more diverse
Teaching multiple grades in her classes
Letting students know that their stories and their talents are important
Her credo: art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable
How she became interested in theatre in education
What she reads
How education is a microcosm of the wider world
Stimulating teenagers to write plays
The first day in her drama class and building community
Collaborating with other teachers
Staging a school production
The importance of dance and movement in a production
The shortcomings of drama on Zoom
What students learn through drama
Assessing drama
Winning the Tony Award for Theatre in Education
She recommends the Nice White Parents podcast: (about school segregation in New York City)
Thanks to John Heffernan who suggested Madeline as a guest for the podcast.

Sep 30, 2020 • 42min
Podcast 405, Teaching to Help Students find Purpose (30-9-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
On this week's podcast my guest is Professor William (Bill) Damon from Stanford University Graduate School of Education where he directs the Stanford Center on Adolescence. He is the author of many books, including The Path to Purpose. We discuss how students can be helped to find purpose in life. Among the topics discussed on this week's programme are:
Many young people looking for something to believe in - about a quarter of them “drifting”
Responses to being adrift: hedonism, anxiety.
Being adrift originates in not finding something that is a positive direction for themselves.
Profile of young people who are drifting
How young people have found purpose in previous eras (national, economic…)
Difference between seeking a purpose and seeking a meaning in life
How having a sense of purpose can help you have a psychological balance
Any activity can be purposeful if you believe in it, do it well and give it your all
How teachers can model a purposeful life for their students
Profiles in purpose
A teacher’s role in helping students find their purpose
When parents dislike the purpose chosen by their daughter or son
Most of us have multiple purposes in life
The link between purpose and entrepreneurship
Atul Gawande’s book Being Mortal
The relationship between mission, commitment and purpose
Where people find purpose
The importance of “why” questions for teachers
How exams could be purposeful
Barriers students encounter in trying to find their purpose in life
How he conducts his research
Questions to help people find their purpose
Diane Ravitch

Sep 21, 2020 • 1h 7min
Podcast 404, Teaching and Learning Outdoors with Paddy Madden (21-9-20)
On this week's programme I speak to Paddy Madden about teaching and learning outdoors. Among the topics we discuss are:
How weather engages the senses when we learn outdoors
Benefits of teaching outdoors
Forest bathing
Noticing Nature
Cloud watching, listening to the sound of birds, smelling flowers.
Daily 15-minute walkabout
Teaching outdoors across the curriculum
Book: Sue Waite Children Learning Outside the classroom
A silly symphony
Preparing for outdoor learning
Learning outcomes
Ways of Knowing by John Quinn
A spiral curriculum – revisiting topics at a more complex level
Teaching outdoors in September
What to do when a wasp enters your classroom
Spiders
Planting a square metre of wheat
Integration across the curriculum using topic of wheat
Painting – called The Gleaners (I mistakenly called it “The Garners” in the recording)
Places to visit at this time of year
Fruit and seed walk: Dry fruit (e.g. helicopters, nuts) and succulent fruit (blackberries, rowan berries, sloes)
How school grounds can sometimes be barren
Paddy’s vision of ideal school grounds
Creating raised beds in a school grounds
Furniture for outdoors learning
Making a pond safe for a school setting
Making clipboards from recycled corroboard
How to position a bird box correctly
The value of a compass in school for showing directions
Why he dislikes terms such as a “bug hotel” or a “bug viewer”
Working outdoors in an urban environment
Using window boxes to grow food
Using binoculars with early finishers
The “Engage with Nature” website
Nature as a stage
The value of unstructured play
Last Child in the Woods by Richard Louv
John Feehan’s books
Richard Louv: "The more high-tech we become, the more nature we need."
Sacha Hamilton, the Duchess of Abercorn and activities of the Pushkin Trust

Jun 1, 2020 • 1h 12min
Programme 403, Combining Challenge and Differentiated Instruction in Maths Teaching (1-6-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
This week on the programme I interview five colleagues who participated recently in an Erasmus+ project titled EDUCATE. This project involved developing materials for teachers, providing providing professional development, and conducting research on how to combine challenge and differentiated instruction in the teaching of mathematics at pre-primary, primary and post-primary levels. Project materials are available here. The guests on the programme are Charalambos Charalambous from the University of Cyprus, Ann Marie Gurhy from the Marino Institute of Education, Despina Potari from the University of Athens, João Pedro da Ponte from the University of Lisbon, and Evridiki Kasapi from the University of Cyprus. Among the topics we discuss are:
Realising that mathematics is more than memorisation and drill and practice.
How the study of differentiated instruction and challenge in mathematics came about
What it means to introduce challenge to mathematics tasks
An overview of differentiated instruction
Using enablers and extenders to promote differentiated instruction
Why a teacher needs to know a student’s cognitive, social and affective needs in order to differentiate
Observing teachers’ needs in differentiating and providing challenge through reading research and observing lessons
Developing materials to support teachers
Using video clubs as a model of teacher professional development
Challenges teacher encounter when working with challenging tasks
The difference between video clubs and lesson study
Overview of the modules created as part of the project (each module is based around a number of cases of practice)

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May 20, 2020 • 1h 11min
Programme 402, Derek Sivers on Learning, Creating and Educating (20-5-20)
In this engaging discussion, Derek Sivers—musician, author, and founder of CD Baby—explores the importance of critical thinking over traditional education. He argues that being smart is about questioning assumptions and finding your interests, rather than merely completing assignments. Sivers highlights the impact of great teachers who inspire creativity and emphasizes personalized learning. He also reflects on the rapid pace of traditional curricula and shares how a shift in education can foster a more engaged and curious mindset.

May 15, 2020 • 40min
Programme 401, The Case for a librarian in every school (15-5-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
On this week's programme school librarian from the Albemarle School System in the State of Virginia in the United States, Ida Mae Craddock (Mae) makes the case for having a school librarian in every school. We discuss her work as a school librarian. Among the topics covered are:
A description of the school she teaches in
Allocation of librarians to schools in Virigina
The job of school librarian
Describing the library and the services offered
Doing a masters in library science (Old Dominion University)
Content of masters course
The challenge and importance of locating resources that are relevant and used
Developing the library collection
The library of things
“Being stuck at home is no fun, being stuck at home with no books is tragic.”
Cataloguing library materials
The kind of literature that is popular among the students in the school she works in
Loss of library stock
Value of having a librarian in a school
The history of school libraries
The future of school libraries – innovation hubs
Writing regularly for School Librarian Connection and School Library Journal
The Maker Educator Collective
Laser cutting and 3-D printing
CRICKETS – Computer Aided Cutting
Teaching as a subversive activity by Neil Postman
Walden by Thoreau

May 9, 2020 • 1h 7min
Programme 400, Matthew Dicks on Storytelling and Teaching (9-5-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
On this 400th episode of Inside Education I am delighted to be joined by the co-presenter of my favourite podcast, Speak-up Storytelling. Matthew Dicks is also an elementary school teacher and the author of Storyworthy: Engage, teach, persuade, and change your life through the power of storytelling. He blogs and shares other resources at his website. Matthew shares a story with listeners to this week's podcast and among the other topics we discuss are:
Becoming a teacher
Studying in a community college while working in McDonalds before winning scholarships to university
Manipulating his dream to fit his reality instead of manipulating his reality to fit his dream
What he likes and dislikes about teaching
Teaching children writing like an editor treats a writer (giving them time, choice, audience, purpose)
The importance of letting a child share their writing and how to respond to the child’s writing
Providing feedback for students on their writing
Why he writes
The kind of stories he tells on stage
The idea he developed called “homework for life”
How he uses storytelling in his elementary school teaching
Improvisational story telling games
The consequence of storytelling and story-writing being acts “of courage”
Sharing writing as a celebratory moment
Having a stage, curtains, lighting and a sound system in his class
Teaching Shakespeare to fifth grade students
“Whatever your passion is, bring it to the classroom”
Albert Cullum Shakespeare in the classroom
A typical day in his classroom
Disliking school as a student
Why he teaches to the students who don’t want to be in class; not assuming that any student wants to be in school on any given day
How his approach to planning has changed
He is a problem-solving, big-picture person – not someone who likes to write a unit of work or draft a school plan
Managing behaviour in the classroom
Why he dislikes homework: children should read every day and learn to study. He prefers long-term assignments over short-term ones
Made to Stick by Chip and Dan Heath
Using competence in storytelling to be a better interviewee when you go for a job
Telling a story

May 1, 2020 • 58min
Programme 399, Daniel Davey on Nutrition and Education (1-5-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney
On this week's podcast my guest is website entrepreneur, bestselling author and performance nutritionist, Daniel Davey. Daniel Davey is the senior performance nutritionist with Leinster Rugby and with the Dublin Senior Football team. The focus of our conversation is nutrition and education. Among the topics we discuss are the following:
What made him decide to study nutrition
Memories of preparing food and cooking at home from a young age
Studying home economics at school and agricultural science at college
Making the connection between nutrition and sport
Importance of a positive relationship with food
His message for students when he visits schools
Challenges in applying principles of healthy nutrition in our lives
How he sees his role in promoting nutrition as that of a coach
Why he does not prepare meal plans for the athletes he works with
Questions he is asked by students in schools
Attempts to use schools in the fight against childhood obesity
Why he prefers the healthy plates to that of the food pyramid
Taking responsibility for the food you eat
Why it’s good to raise your own awareness and curiosity about food
Making the classroom a safe space to talk about food
The power of questions when talking about nutrition
Work of a nutritionist is to facilitate and empower
Relationship between nutrition and physical exercise
How coaches of school sports teams can promote good nutrition with their members
Elite school sports performance and nutrition – place of supplements
Advice for parents around school lunches
Positive and negative impacts of teachers on him
His continuing professional development
How our nutrition practices have set us up to fail in school
What inspires him

Apr 25, 2020 • 47min
Programme 398, Yong Zhao on Globalisation, Technology, Entrepreneurship & Education (25-4-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
On this week's episode I speak to Professor Yong Zhao from the School of Education at the University of Kansas. Among the topics we discuss on the episode are the following:
We currently have the opportunity to reimagine education without schools: Do we have to do these subjects? Do we have to teach this much?
A good time to teach global understanding, empathy and competency
Innovation in education
The importance of having an entrepreneurial mindset
The Digital Pencil
Alternative ways of organising the education of young people
Difficulty of finding like-minded people in a small school
Globalisation as the “death of physical distance”
Globalisation is localisation of global forces
Implications of globalisation for teachers
Why everyone should have a local identity and affirm the identities of others
Your uniqueness can only become valuable when it’s valuable to others
Why schools encourage people to be independent and selfish rather than interdependent
Schools as a place to bring about a better society
Students as job creators versus job hunters
Enhancing entrepreneurship in students
Unintended consequences of education policies
PISA test scores and the illusions of excellence, science, progress.
His experience of being educated in China
The impact of technology on education
To compete with a machine, a person must avoid becoming one!
Be unique and great in your own way; understand yourself, your talents and virtues.
"Creative" means identifying problems worth solving
Empty creativity versus good creativity – the need to have a domain to excel in
What schools should be for: a place to equalise community resources
David Berliner and Bruce J. Biddle The Manufactured Crisis.
David Berliner as a former guest on the podcast
Diane Ravitch’s blog: https://dianeravitch.net/
If we want a better life in the future, we need to help our children create a better life for us

Apr 15, 2020 • 37min
Programme 397, Alfie Kohn on Homework, Testing, Rewards and More (15-4-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney
On this week's podcast I bring you my interview with Alfie Kohn, who writes and speaks about education, especially in areas such as homework, standardised testing and punishments and rewards. Among the items we discuss on the podcast are the following:
Fostering students’ curiosity and encouraging them to think deeply
Teachers participating with children in an exploration of ideas to move beyond factual knowledge
How teachers can teach to promote students’ thinking
The inverse relationship between teacher control and student learning
Why learning starts with a question
John Dewey, Jean Piaget, Ed Deci and Richard Ryan (Self-determination theory)
Why rewards and punishment don’t help children learn
Why saying “Good job” to your students is the equivalent of a “verbal doggy biscuit”
Children who are frequently praised are less generous than their peers
How children know when they’re being controlled and how they respond to it
How teachers can respond to students’ work and respect the child’s autonomy
Implementing a no-homework policy in a school
Why he believes that giving homework to children constitutes malpractice.
Excitement (about learning) drives excellence
Standardised tests and teacher accountability; Authentic assessments – tap into projects done by students over time
Why standardised teaching tells you only two things: (i) how much time was given to teaching test taking and (ii) how big the houses are near the school.
Differences between role of parent and teacher: Unconditional parenting and unconditional teaching
Punished by Rewards
Unconditional Parenting