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Sean Delaney
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Apr 9, 2021 • 59min
Podcast 415, Gene Mehigan on Literacy & Disadvantage (9-4-21)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
On this week's episode I interview my long-time colleague and fellow vice-president of Marino Institute of Education on the topics of literacy and disadvantage and more. Among the topics we discuss during the podcast are the following:
What constitutes a struggling reader
Identifying a struggling reader in a class setting
Why it is important to move on from focusing on individual sounds and words to help students become fluent readers.
The article referred to in the programme can be downloaded here: Effects of Fluency Oriented Instruction on Motivation for Reading of Struggling Readers
Fluency oriented instruction and the work of Stephen Stahl, Kathleen Heubach and Bonnie Cramond.
The value of repeatedly reading the same text
Why fluency oriented instruction is particularly important around first class
The value of teachers and parents reading to children, modelling the reading process
Why choral reading is helpful in developing fluency – communicatively choral reading
Echo reading, antiphonal reading,
Why motivation may be the most important factor in learning to read
Louise Rosenblatt and the efferent/aesthetic continuum.
Story of “Jason” a non-reader who loved Buddy Holly songs
How teachers believe that fluency comes after mastery of more cognitive skills of reading and that motivation is important for beginning readers
Conducting research in schools serving disadvantaged areas in Dublin
Looking at motivation for reading:
Self-efficacy for reading
Orientation towards reading
Perceived difficulty of reading
The value for teachers of knowing the science of reading. Read Daniel Willingham’s The Reading Mind
Our brains are not wired for reading (alphabet principle; decoding)
How parents can promote motivation among children – reading to children and reading with children
What it means for a child to be alliterate
The role of education in a disadvantaged setting
The “network gap” that children in disadvantaged settings experience
The extent to which education can ameliorate disadvantage
The value of teachers collaborating, especially in a disadvantaged setting (and in planting allotments and solving crossword puzzles and in teacher education too)
Role of a principal in a disadvantaged school
Derek Sivers’s book notes
Ken Robinson
Science of reading podcast and blogs (http://textproject.org/teacher-educators/science-of-reading/, https://understandingreading.home.blog/)
Timothy Shanahan blog.
Autobiographies: John Major, Arnold Schwarzenegger & André Agassi
Derek Sivers's book notes and podcast interview

Mar 29, 2021 • 1h
Inside Education 414, Stefan Ward on Physical Education & Positive Youth Development (29-3-21)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
On this week's podcast I am joined by Professor Stefan Ward from Central Washington University who is currently a Fulbright Scholar in Dublin City University Institute of Education. Among the topics we discuss are:
His interest in positive youth development
How he became involved in Project Fun Direction and why it is important for young girls
What is physical literacy and how is it developed?
Physical education in schools in the United States
Why games such as Dodge Ball and relay races need to be removed from PE class
Specialist physical educators in the United States
The Irish physical education curriculum
What an effective PE lesson looks like (Moderate to vigorous activity; differentiated instruction; choice; reflection time)
Assessment in PE (physical, cognitive, affective)
Teaching physical education with minimal equipment (including planning for activities that require minimal equipment such as hiking, soccer).
Skill themes in primary and post-primary PE classes
Reducing risk of physical injury in PE class
Modifying games
Teaching physical education in all weathers or with limited facilities
Generic and sport-specific strategies for differentiating a physical education lesson, such as tennis: cooperative practice, modify game to make goal easier, award points for attempts, use different equipment – e.g. foam ball, different racquet, give choices for students to be successful at different levels.
Duties associated with his university role in the United States
Shape America
Positive Youth Development – self-determination theory (relatedness, competence and autonomy)
Bringing Student PE teachers to volunteer in sports camps abroad in Guam and in Ireland
Selecting candidates for a physical education teaching programme
Impactful teacher: Tom Martinek
Missy Parker
Teaching Personal and Social Responsibility
Book: Youth Development and Physical Activity

Mar 22, 2021 • 1h 3min
Podcast 413 John Hattie on Visible Learning and More (22-3-21)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
In this episode my guest is Emeritus Professor John Hattie from the University of Melbourne. Among many other contributions to education, he has developed the idea of visible learning. Among the topics we discuss in the podcast are the following:
What Professor Hattie means by visible learning
How children don’t have the language to talk about their learning
Students learning from each other
The importance of asking students two questions: What does it mean to be a good learner in this class? What do you do when you don’t know what to do?
Impact of a student’s age on making learning visible
Three ways of making learning visible: student voice, student artefacts, test scores. He is interested in triangulating across these three sources, in how the teacher interprets that information, and how the teacher decides where to go next with a student’s learning. The same information from a student’s perspective is also important.
The love of learning follows, rather than precedes, learning.
Every curriculum subject has three parts (i) content, skills (knowing that…), (ii) relationships (knowing how…) and (iii) Transfer. Understanding all three parts is important. Typically 90% of learning is focused on content/skills. John Hattie believes it’s the balance across all three that matters. However, you can’t rush to the deep parts too quickly.
His views on learning styles
The missing piece of teacher education – looking at students’ learning
Research he did to develop the concept of “visible learning”
Changing the research question on teaching from “What works?” to “What works best?”
Why how teachers think matters more than what teachers do
Many teachers deny their expertise
When students do a test, the teacher should ask “What did I teach well and what did I not teach well?” What did I learn about which students gained from the teaching and which didn’t? What did I learn about how much I taught? Answering those questions helps teachers decide “where to” next.
Ask students to predict how they’ll do in a test? From age 8 on, they’re good at answering this question.
His research on feedback. Its impact on students can be variable, even from one day to the next.
What is important to look at is the feedback that is received by students (is it heard, understood and actionable?)
Why children after age 8 don’t like talking about their errors or what they don’t know…and why they might be more likely to do it through technology
The need to learn in groups
The value of asking a student how someone got something wrong
If you’re not getting things wrong, the work’s too easy
Why he dislikes a constructivist approach to teaching and its cousins (problem-based learning, and discovery learning). It’s all about timing and being deliberate.
He refers a few times to the card game Canasta.
The lack of support available to newly qualified teachers.
Evaluative thinking (diagnosis, intervention, implementation, evaluate) as the essence of the teaching profession
The difference between teacher as facilitator and teacher as activator (i.e. active listeners, active in the process about how students are going about their learning, intervening at the right time) and why he prefers the latter. Why students need experts.
Homework and student achievement. The nature of the homework matters. We can’t assume that students know how to learn.
He mentions other researchers in the podcast including: Gert Biesta, Shirley Clarke, Guy Claxton, and Graham Nuthall.

Mar 6, 2021 • 52min
Podcast 412, Academic Integrity: Plagiarism, Predatory Publishing and Contract Cheating (6-3-21)
On this week's podcast I address the topic of academic integrity, a concern at all levels of the education system. My guest is Professor Diane Pecorari from the City University of Hong Kong, who is an expert in this area. Among the topics we discuss on the episode are the following:
Intertextuality – borrowing from earlier texts
Plagiarism involves deception
Plagiarism inside and outside education settings
Accidental “plagiarism” and the need to differentiate it from deliberate deception
Advocating a pedagogical response to plagiarism (punishing versus coaching and supporting)
How widespread plagiarism is in higher education settings
Causes of plagiarism
Students may feel inadequate to a task facing them because of the expansion of access to university education and increasingly educating students through a language that is not their own leading to plagiarism
Preventing plagiarism – rules, detection mechanisms, penalties; admitting students with proficiency in the language of instruction and with sufficient academic preparation for studying the subject they’re going to study; giving students the skills they need to use quotations and to develop their voices as writers.
Text-matching software such as Turnitin and Urkund. Risk of false positives and false negatives.
Deterring plagiarism through penalties
Patch writing (coined by Rebecca Howard) as a particular kind of plagiarism
Essay mills and contract cheating – challenges to detect. Risk of students being blackmailed or ripped off.
Predatory publishing and predatory conferences: no quality control mechanisms and whose sole purpose is to make a profit.
Avoid them by looking for journals in which authors you respect publish, look at who is on the editorial board, consider the proportionality of any fee that is requested and consider the time taken to have an article published.
Use this website to identify reputable journals.
How her interest in this area was sparked
English for Academic Purposes versus English as an additional language
Content of an English for Academic Purposes course
Hot topics in research on English for Academic Purposes
What schools are for
Academic Tribes and Territories by Tony Becher and Paul R. Trowler.
Methodical, patient clear teachers are what we all need.

Dec 19, 2020 • 1h 7min
Podcast 411, Curriculum Integration (19-12-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
In this episode I speak to two experts on curriculum integration from Brock University in Ontario, Canada, Professor Susan Drake and Dr. Joanne Reid. Among the topics we discuss are the following:
Multidisciplinary, interdisciplinary and transdisciplinary connections among subjects
SAMPLE TOPICS FOR INTEGRATION: War, water, homelessness, food waste in the cafeteria, traffic patterns in a school, sustainability, patterns, change, conflict, trace origin of everyday item (Coffee, chocolate etc.), medieval fair.
Finnish requirement that students do a phenomenon-based learning unit each year based around transversal competencies (21st century)
Project-based learning examples
Students present their work to an authentic audience
Finding themes for integration (look out your window!)
Project-based learning on Edutopia
Buck Institute and Project-based learning
Benefits of integration: more fun, students are engaged, fewer behaviour problems, social and emotional development, wellbeing, relevance, focus on whole person. Teachers who collaborate are more energised and creative
OECD Report: Curriculum Overload: A Way Forward.
Student achievement and integrated curricula
Obstacles to integration: textbooks, timetabling, subject-specific responsibilities,
Origin of Integrated teaching and its relation to constructivism which is relevant, interactive, real-world, choice, inquiry-based.
The Eight Year Study with Ralph Tyler, Hilda Taba and others. It was written up by Aikin.
Balancing integration and disciplinary integrity
Cross-curricular and teaching to the big ideas compared to integrated curriculum
Explanation of their curriculum framework: KDB: Know, Do, Be
Twenty-first century competencies: Communication (reading, writing, oral communication, listening, media literacy), critical thinking, creative thinking, collaboration, global competency, design thinking, digital skills, data literacy, financial literacy.
How they conduct research on integrated curriculum
Gordon Vars and research on integrated curriculum.
Bluewater study
What happened when standards/accountability model arrived in schools in the 1990s.
How the pandemic has impacted on assessment
Assessment and integration.
Benefits of students seeing the value of their work in the wider world (having an audience outside the classroom).
Finding out more about integrated curriculum and its history.
John Dewey and William Heard Kilpatrick and The Project Method.
James Beane.
Twenty-first century life skills
High Tech High
Getting started with integration : Genius Hour. More here.
Student-led teaching
How integrated curriculum is for students of all ages.
bell hooks
Inside the Black Box by Paul Black and Dylan William
In addition, Susan and Joanne compiled a list of resources with additional information about curriculum integration:
Drake, S. M. & Reid, J. L. (2020). How education can shape a new story in a post-pandemic world. Brock Education, 29(2), 6-12
Drake, S. M. & Reid, J. L. (2020). 21st Century competencies in light of the history of integrated curriculum. In “Rethinking what has been rethought consistently over the millennia: A global perspective on the future of education”. Frontiers in Education Journal, 5(122), 1-10. https://doi.org/10.3389/feduc.2020.00122
Drake, S.M. & Reid, J.L. (in press). Integrated curriculum In J. Flinders & P, Hiebowitsh (Eds.) Routledge Encyclopedia of Education. New York: Routledge
Drake, S.M. & Reid, J. L. (2018). Integrated curriculum as an effective way to teach 21st Century capabilities. Asia Pacific Journal of Educational Research, 1(1), https://doi.org/10.0000/APJER.2018.1.1.031
Drake, S.M. & Reid, J. L. (2018). Integrated curriculum for the 21st Century. In J. Miller, M. Binder, S. Crowell, K. Nigh and B. Novak (Eds). International handbook in holistic education (pp.118-128) New York: Routledge.
Drake, S.M. & Reid, J. L. (2017). Interdisciplinary assessment in the 21st Century.
file:///Users/sdrake/Desktop/IEJEE_57fa80bd928bb_last_article_57fa813187fad.pdfIn Steve Pec (Ed). Scholarship of teaching and learning Part 3 (pp. 1-8) Stuyvesant Falls, NY: Rapid Intellect Group. http://www.rapidintellect.com/AE/ec5771v14.pdf
Savage, M. & Drake, S. (2016). Living transdisciplinarity: Teachers’ experiences with the International Baccalaurete Primary years Programme. International Electronic Journal of Elementary Education. (19), 1-19, file:///Users/sdrake/Desktop/IEJEE_57fa80bd928bb_last_article_57fa813187fad.pdf
Drake, S.M. & Savage, M. (2016). Negotiating accountability and integrated curriculum in a global context. International Journal of Learning, Teaching, and Educational Research, 15, 6. http://www.ijlter.org/index.php/ijlter/article/view/639
Drake, S.M. (2015). Designing across the curriculum for “sustainable well-being”: A 21st Century approach. In F. Deer, T. Falkenberg, B. McMillan & L. Simms (Eds.). Sustainable Well-Being: Concepts, Issues, and Educational Practice (pp. 57-77). Winnipeg, MB: EWSB Press. http://www.eswb-press.org/uploads/1/2/8/9/12899389/sustainable_well-being_2014.pdf.
Drake. S. M., Reid, J. L., & Kolohon, W. (2014). Interweaving curriculum and classroom assessment Engaging students for the 21st century. Don Mills, ON: Oxford University Press.
Drake S & Burns R. (2004). Meeting standards with integrated curriculum. Alexandria, VA:ASCD. Susan says “it is the easiest "how to" book” and Joanne agrees. It is almost like a manual. Very good even if it seems old now.
Project-based learning – sites for ideas
https://www.pblworks.org/what-is-pbl
https://www.prodigygame.com/main-en/blog/project-based-learning/
https://www.edutopia.org/project-based-learning
https://iearn.org (collaborative international projects)

Dec 6, 2020 • 59min
Podcast 410, Education Historian, Dr. Thomas Walsh (5-12-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
On this week's podcast Education Historian Dr. Thomas Walsh applies a historical perspective to analyse cotemporary policy and practice in curriculum, early childhood education and more. Among the topics we discuss are:
The career trajectory that brought him to working in the Education Department of Maynooth University.
Working in the Centre for Early Childhood Development and Education
Influence of nationalism and Catholicism on the curriculum of the 1920s
The Commission on Manual and Practical Instruction and its influence on the 1900 curriculum
Removing subjects to focus on the Irish language in the 1920s
Becoming interested in the study of curriculum and curriculum change over most of a century
Influence of John Coolahan on Tom’s work
How a historical perspective on curriculum enriches our understanding of curriculum today
The Stanley Letter from 1831.
The importance of context in curriculum development
Policy as text and policy as discourse (Ball). Curriculum implementation – dance between policy and practice
Influences on curriculum change in Ireland – timing and context affect the influences
Immigrant, internationally educated teachers and controlling who can become a teacher
Migrant Teacher Project and Turn to Teaching Project (Maynooth)
Team teaching: when it happens; what needs to happen for it to be successful? Planning for team teaching.
Policy and practice in relation to team teaching
Resources for team teaching (PDST and Maynooth websites)
Early Childhood Education in Ireland today
Legacy of Professor John Coolahan. He featured on two episodes of Inside Education, here and here.
School placement: from supervisor to placement tutor. What’s in a name change?
Gert Biesta article, Resisting the seduction of the global measurement industry: notes on the social psychology of PISA and book, The Beautiful Risk of Education.

Nov 29, 2020 • 52min
Podcast 409, Teaching Africa and Challenging Perceptions in Schools (29-11-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney
On this week's podcast I interview the editors of a book titled Challenging perceptions of Africa in schools: Critical approaches to global justice education. They are my colleague Dr. Barbara O'Toole, from the Marino Institute of Education and Dr. Ebun Joseph and Dr. David Nyaluke from University College Dublin. Among the topics we discussed on the programme are the following:
How our education system is focused on a Eurocentric view of people from Africa
Chimamanda and the Danger of a single story
What teachers are doing well when presenting Africa to their students
How history is taught impacts on the past and on life today
The need to hear the story of Africa from a different perspective
How our system encourages us to perform racism
The benefits of reading African authors to see how they represent Africa
The need to present a balanced story of Africa
Why discussing Africa with a deficit perspective needs to be balanced with a discussion of its strengths
Negative portrayal of Africa in Irish primary school textbooks
The need for unlearning: self-questioning and reflection
What critical race theory is (a theoretical framework and an analytical framework)
White Teacher by Vivian Gussin Paley
Knowledge justice
The River Between by Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o
Things fall apart by Chinua Achebe
Books by Ali Mazrui.
How Europe is portrayed in African education
Decolonising education and Alice Feldman
How this affects every subject across the curriculum
Just Connections, Just Trade resource for teachers
The importance to develop a race consciousness and how race impacts on people’s experiences
There is a stereotype in all our work – we need to think about how we can erase them
Being in a crisis of knowledge and a crisis of solutions
Moving to a mindset of social justice can permeate every aspect of a teacher’s teaching
Relative size of Africa compared to Europe and the United States

Nov 14, 2020 • 58min
Podcast 408, Jennifer O'Sullivan on Teaching Reading (14-11-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
On this week's programme I am delighted to interview my colleague, Dr. Jennifer O'Sullivan on the topic of teaching reading. Specifically, we explore the areas of phonemic awareness, phonological awareness and picture books. Jennifer also recommends several useful resources for teaching reading.
Among the topics we discuss and the resources mentioned are the following:
Jennifer's route to becoming a teacher
The joys and challenges of teaching in a junior school that had disadvantaged status
Doing a master’s degree in literacy.
Specific challenges teachers experience in their first year of teaching
The research base for how children learn to read
The path to learning to read: alphabetic principle, apply sounds of language to print on page, decoding, comprehending meaning
The importance of teacher content knowledge in diagnosing what a child needs to work on when learning to read
The importance of phonological awareness and what phonemic awareness is
Why not to introduce phonics to children too soon; start with speech and then move to print (rather than working from print to sounds).
The need to teach children how to separate sounds in words and to blend them back together.
The need to explicitly teach that, for example, a word like “eight” has only two sounds but five letters and that this makes the subsequent introduction of phonics easier for children.
The App she’s developing to assess phonological awareness
Why dyslexia is caused by a phonological deficit
Visual literacy and close reading
Reading a picture
Picture books to use in primary school:
Anthony Browne
Jon Klassen I want my hat back
The Arrival by Shaun Tan.
The Paperbag Princess by Robert Munsch.
How to use picture books in school: discussing difficult topics, developing empathy, developing vocabulary, springboard for writing, visual literacy, challenging stereotypes.
What parents can do at home to help their child read better
Literacy in the kitchen video with Clara Fiortentini.
Model reading for children
Choose books children enjoy: e.g. David Walliams.
A billboard message for all teachers
Jan Hasbrouck.
Mark Seidenberg: Language at the Speed of Sight
Louisa Moats (What do we need to know as teachers to teach reading?). Book, Speech to Print.
Clara Fiorentini’s Little Miss Teacher blog. Here is a link to the interview I did with Clara Fiortentin.
The Literacy Channel on YouTube.

Nov 1, 2020 • 1h 13min
Podcast 407, Pam Moran on 21st Century Education (1-11-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
My guest on the podcast this week is Dr. Pam Moran who is the Executive Director of the Virginia School Consortium for Learning and is a former superintendent of Albemarle County Public Schools.
Among the points we discussed in the podcast were the following:
The role of a superintendent in US education
Desmos software that is used to teach mathematics.
The reintroduction of maker skills into US education in response to narrow testing and the benefits of it
MAKER LEARNING
Students who take making courses
Safety in maker learning
Involving the wider family in maker learning
How maker learning is reflected in the school curriculum
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR TEACHERS
Her thoughts on professional development that works best for teachers
Professional development to help teachers teach online
Flipgrid
EDUCATION FOR THE 21ST CENTURY
What schools need to do to be more relevant to the twenty-first century (automation, climate change, working from home, demographic changes, superficial learning for tests)
Edward Hess books: Learn or Die, Humility is the New Smart and Hyper Learning: Learning at the speed of change)
How she would reform the mathematics and science curriculum to make it more relevant for students
The book she co-authored, Timeless Learning: How Imagination, Observation, and Zero-Based Thinking Change Schools. Reimagining education using zero-based thinking
Ira Socol.
Yong Zhao episode on Inside Education.
Catherine Cronin's interview on Inside Education.
Pam O’Brien, Mags Almond, John Heffernan.
Maya Angelou, Séamus Heaney
Stories from the Pandemic.
Website of Pam Moran and Ira Socol

Oct 12, 2020 • 48min
Podcast 406, Drama and Theatre in Education (12-10-20)
Presented and produced by Seán Delaney.
On this week's podcast I discuss drama and theatre in education with Madeline Michel, a teacher in Monticello High School in Charlottesville Virginia. Madeline was the 2019 winner of the Tony award for excellence in theatre education. Among the topics we discuss in the course of the podcast are the following:
How she approaches theatre education
How a sports –competitive – paradigm is mistakenly applied to the arts
Theatre in education versus drama in education
How she tried to make her class more diverse
Teaching multiple grades in her classes
Letting students know that their stories and their talents are important
Her credo: art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable
How she became interested in theatre in education
What she reads
How education is a microcosm of the wider world
Stimulating teenagers to write plays
The first day in her drama class and building community
Collaborating with other teachers
Staging a school production
The importance of dance and movement in a production
The shortcomings of drama on Zoom
What students learn through drama
Assessing drama
Winning the Tony Award for Theatre in Education
She recommends the Nice White Parents podcast: (about school segregation in New York City)
Thanks to John Heffernan who suggested Madeline as a guest for the podcast.